Tamiya F201 Forum

[StevePond]

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This R/C model of this year's F-1 champion car features a revolutionary new chassis, the F201. The chassis built with onboard suspension based on the suspension of actual F-1 cars. However, the F201 chassis features 4WD for easier control.

[RCtinkerman]

My buddy has an F-1 and it's a lot of fun. If this one comes out, I'd consider buying it:p

[tarheelquality]

What sort of price and availability are we looking at on this?

[superman_xxxt]

sweeeet!!:D

[StevePond]

Originally posted by tarheelquality
What sort of price and availability are we looking at on this?

It was just announced, so we certainly don't have any pricing information yet, but it should be fairly reasonable.

[canadianredneak]

apparently they are gonna cost between $300-$400 Canadian. which is like $200-$300 american. my local track has already seen two of them. Martin Crisp and Dereck Hung both have been testing them under a closed track. so i can't get u ne more pics thn what u seen here.

[InspGadgt]

We've been hearing rumors of a retail price of about $260 with a street price of about $160. Again these are rumor/speculation from memebers of our website's BB. F1 Enthusiasts be sure to check out the RCCA's March Site to See!

[roadrage]

Any word on the release date?

[StevePond]

Haven't heard anything yet.

[F1Junkie]

Hi -

Tamiya Japan has posted more pics of their new F201 at:

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/58288ferrari_f2001/ferrari.htm

Looks awesome with the pivot ball suspension. Maybe someone who is actually good with a computer can post them here.

regards

dave

[JT3518]

Being a Ferrari F1 fan I will have to buy this.
I will not race it but I would like it to be very fast.
Anyone got any suggestion to a good running package, Batteries, motor, esc?

[Crazy Canuck]

It looks like it only takes stick packs. Any thoughts?

[RCtinkerman]

I was never good with the single batts anyway:P

[2nd Gear]

Im sure tamiya will bring out a saddle pack chassis sooner or later.But I have a good question where on gods green earth would you mount a transponder?

[2nd Gear]

I see now in front of the side body post above the battery.:D ;)

[Usagi]

but it might take other styles then the stick packs. tamiya would not do that to this car.

[old phart]

Looks awesome! Typical Tamiya accuracy. Too bad it isn't nitro powered!

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[rcaddikt]

There isn't a carpet track remotely close too where I live. But that looks way too cool NOT to have! Not looking forward to the price tag though.Too bad it isn't nitro powered!
That would be awesome!

[InspGadgt]

There in lies the problem...where could we fit a nitro engine in and have it still contained under the body to maintain the scale appearance? hmmmm

The motor runs opposite of what I expected direction wise...it faces foward instead of back. Also, it looks like it's going to get really hot as there's no cooling for the motor. Something we are going to have to work on when it's released.b

[2nd Gear]

kyyosho had their nitro powered f1 with a .11.I had one and it performed well.Put in theoptional 2 speed and a .12 it was smokin!

[InspGadgt]

That was a larger car based off of the F10 chassis or Super10 chassis I believe.

[2nd Gear]

yes sir and it is the smallest chassis I believe you can do it with unless you use a cox engine.(i believe its cox?)And still look scale.The ofna didnt look to scale but it was ok.(2wd though)

[InspGadgt]

Actually the Ofna F1 is the same size as the Tamiya F1's. All they did was slap a .12 in the rear pod. Ruins the scale appearance though. There is a company I saw in a Japan magazine that is working or was working on a Tamiya sized chassis running an OS LD .12 engine in the center of the chassis under the body and had an independant rear suspension...though I never saw if it made it to production or not.

[Maddmaxx]

Tower has priced it at $190 and predicted march 2002 as delivery date.

[2nd Gear]

I cant find it at tower?:confused:

[Maddmaxx]

search product LXBUB7. 1/10 scale on road electric

[HYDRAMATIC99]

Looks nice. Very cool design

[Maddmaxx]

Has anyone else seen pictures of the Kyosho KX-1 (or something very much like it) with an F1 body?? Perhaps F1 is returning in 4 wheel drive form.

[Serius Black]

To those of you that feel Tamiya is doing a disservice to the F1 community by offering this car in 4wd, what do they have to lose?
The F1 class hasn't exactly been exploding, at least not here in the US. There has been lots of interest, but I think that those people that have purchased and driven the cars realized that they're not as easy to set up and drive as they thought. Even with a stock 540 motor, the solid axle, 2wd F1's are pretty tough to drive fast.
With the body on, you can hardly tell that the thing is 4wd. The benefits FAR outweigh the fact that you can see the front dogbones upon close inspection. In theory, it would be really cool to have an ultra scale F1, with cantilever shocks and all, and sticking with 2wd, but the truth of the matter is that handling dynamics do not translate exactly from 1:1 to 1:10th scale. The 4wd is going to help compensate for some of the shortfalls in handling, and make it a MUCH more enjoyable car to drive.
As someone mentioned above, touring cars aren't 4wd (any longer), and our stadium trucks don't resemble anything in the real world, especially full scale stadium trucks. I think Tamiya did a great job of maintaining the F1's looks, while giving us a car that will be much more tunable and easier to drive.

[rcaddikt]

Originally posted by Maddmaxx
Tower has priced it at $190 and predicted march 2002 as delivery date.

For some reason I was expecting it to cost alot more than that. I can justify spending that much! Even if it's just going to sit on display.

Or, I'll just have to find a BRAND NEW parking lot to run on!

[Maddmaxx]

I think its a great idea. F1/Indy in a drivable package. I want one. My son works in Japan, he's trying to find one now. I don't think that I'm going to want to hit a wall though. Looks fragile??

[Maddmaxx]

I think its a great idea. F1/Indy in a drivable package. I want one. My son works in Japan, he's trying to find one now. I don't think that I'm going to want to hit a wall though. Looks fragile??

[carbsmith]

I hope that there is a drive bias to the rear (or at least an option of it!), so it still handles a bit like it's rear drive (smokes thr rears, steps out a bit if you're turning at the time-not so bad that it might as well be rear drive though.)

[Scomp87]

I wonder if it could out run a tc3

[Speedtester]

Also, it looks like it's going to get really hot as there's no cooling for the motor.

It almost looks like the air scoop in back of the driver might actually cool the motor a bit. I'm not sure if its closed up or not.

[2nd Gear]

You know this kinda thing gets me a bit ticked off because I would love to have this but when it comes to racing it youre stuck.I mean if you have this and want to run it in a stock class who are you gonna run with.Novice?I dont want to run with novice.Im not a novice any more but then you have the guys who run TC and they might think it is a unfair advantage.(on top of that having a car cooler then what they have)What do you guys think,Maybe I should just ask if I could run it?It never hurts to ask but it does hurt to hear NO!.:eek:

[InspGadgt]

The plastic part insid the scoop where the rear shocks mount looks closed up in the pictures.

[Maddmaxx]

My latest info is that the car will be available in Osaka on the 15 of March for $200 after taxes. That makes the price in my above post look pretty attractive.

[StevePond]

I had only just noticed that this car will come with ball diffs at both ends of the car. The fact that it's shaft drive keeps the diffs inside housings and away from dirt and debris that can contaminate the diffs. I can't wait to see this thing. I've also taken a closer look at the pushrod suspension and find it to be incredibly cool. I have a K's Factory F1 car, which is a really trick pushrod car with alloy parts everywhere, and hopefully, this car will have a bunch of aftermarket alloy parts. Not so much for racing, just to customize a nice shelf runner. I do intend however, to have a runner. This car looks too sweet to leave on a shelf.

[Usagi]

Its out here in Japan around 14,200 yen or $116.48!
Plus taxes 14,910! or 116.48! where are you get getting $200.00!!!!!!!!!

[Usagi]

Originally posted by Maddmaxx
My latest info is that the car will be available in Osaka on the 15 of March for $200 after taxes. That makes the price in my above post look pretty attractive. WHAT????????????? NOWAY!!!!!!!!!!!the prices are NO more 15,000 YEN to more like 14,200. So a american money 117.18 to 116.48!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not $200.00! Both Tokyo and Osaka Prices are the same!:rolleyes: Boy your getting ripped off!
I Live in Japan and go to all the shows in Tokyo So I know these prices are correct!:p :p :p :p:p :p

[Skribble]

A little hyper there? ..

Also, where did you get Usagi from? For Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon, the main chracter is Usagi Tsukino so I was curious if it was from that, and Kon'banwa. ;) Sayonara.

[StevePond]

Great news. I'm hoping they show up here soon. BTW, the price in Japan is of no consequence here. We don't need to get into a contest about who knows what the price will be.

[Skribble]

So what is the price gonna be? I was gonna buy a F103 to bash with, but if the F201 is gonna be under $200 I'll probably get it instead.

[Usagi]

Yes steve your right......but problems are some people try to ..... never mind..........
All that matter is the car is a big hit !!!!!!!!! They are selling tons of them. Many of the shops are sold old! Wow for 14,200 yen no wonder the F1 is making a come back In Japan.

[StevePond]

Tower Hobbies currently has the price listed at $174.99. It could change because the car is not here yet, and I've seen the prices change right down to the last minute, but they're certainly going to be well under $200.

[Skribble]

So if the price changes, will it go up or down?

[Usagi]

maybe 160.00.......it does have bearsing so.For this price in the usa its still cheap

[Usagi]

The hong kong sellers are going to do a killing on this kits on ebay!.......The cheap prices in japan more then the usa...... Geeshhhhhhhh

[StevePond]

I just saw one for over $300. I'm sorry, but for nearly double the price, I think I'll wait a couple weeks. I could see maybe $200 if I was going to have it over a month in advance, but for that kind of money it's silly. By the time they get payment sorted out, get it shipped and it arrives in the States, the shipment of "legal" F201s will have arrived and we'll be paying somewhere in the 160 to 170 range.

[Usagi]

you say a????????????? I don`t think so.........even on yahoo there is a reseller selling these F1s.......
ILLegal of of Hong Kong.......? hum.........If thats true then ebay should be shut down right? Tamiya does not care.if they did they do some thing about it.

[StevePond]

Huh? I can only assume you're taking too much issue with the statement that I would wait for the "legal" ones. I'm sure Tamiya doesn't want to take to time to worry about the small number of kits bought and sold through ebay, but I would assume that each distributor has their own territory in which they can sell product. To sell to customers in another distributor's region is likely against the selling distributor's own agreement with the manufacturer. Even if that's not that case, there are import/export duties and tarriffs that are not being paid by the overseas sellers or the buyers, which is another little legal snag. I'm not taking a position on this one way or another, I've bought new product from overseas myself. Now, back on topic...

[Usagi]

Why do people need to go these routes instead of awaiting say 2 weeks is really crazy.........HK sellers thinks people can`t wait, so they get these "gray market kits" etc and sell them on ebay.......and make a huges money in the process. I see many HK people that buys about $5000.00 (worth of kits and other r/c)at one store at a time. And the shops are willing to sell them to them........ Now you know where these HK ebay resellers are getting there tamiya and other r/c brand kits :( but true.

Anyways back to the F1, tamiya has a boom on their hands with this kit. Shops are asking tamiya to double their shipments of this car. A new generation of F1 are born. Great job tamiya :)

[Skribble]

Does Hobby Net Japan have a website?

[StevePond]

www.hobbynet-jp.com

[Usagi]

those prices are messed up! what in the.........

[Shadow_Wolf]

ok.. im considering getting into F1 r/c raceing, would this car be allowed to enter into F1 events? being that its 4WD? if not.. would REALY like some fingers pointed at some manufactuers that make raceable F1's.

[StevePond]

This is one of the only remaining production F1 cars, so I would have to imagine that tracks running F1 classes would have to accommodate this new car. I'm sure there will be some healthy debate, but it will be resolved. Call your local tracks to see if they run an F1 class. If so, ask how they plan to integrate this new car. If they intend to ban it for the moment, then pick-up an F103 chassis.

[Skribble]

Are there any hop-ups for these yet? And is it F201 or F2001?

[Usagi]

not many tamiya has a few that been rolled over from other cars. like the tires are from M-o1 series mini copper cars. and a few other. But no aftermarket parts yet. next month they will be popping up.

[StevePond]

Originally posted by Skribble
Are there any hop-ups for these yet? And is it F201 or F2001?


The chassis is named F201, this particular Ferrari model is the F2001. So, the car in a generic sense is the F201.

[StevePond]

So, anybody get one yet?

[ILv2Xlr8]

Originally posted by SteveP
I had only just noticed that this car will come with ball diffs at both ends of the car. The fact that it's shaft drive keeps the diffs inside housings and away from dirt and debris that can contaminate the diffs. I can't wait to see this thing. I've also taken a closer look at the pushrod suspension and find it to be incredibly cool. I have a K's Factory F1 car, which is a really trick pushrod car with alloy parts everywhere, and hopefully, this car will have a bunch of aftermarket alloy parts. Not so much for racing, just to customize a nice shelf runner. I do intend however, to have a runner. This car looks too sweet to leave on a shelf.

Sweet car, sign me up for one!

Do they still make the K's Factory F1 car?

[Usagi]

You can fine the K`s F1 once in awhile.

As for supply tamiya has no shortage of this F1......... there been rummers about it. but i see all the shops carying a double load of the F201 now.

I hear some prro guy pair 188.00 for the thing from a Hong Kong seller........Ge if he could only have waited another few weeks........

[Skribble]

I heard that the motor mount is gonna be fixed so you can't change pinions .. Is this true?

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

I was about to post a thred on this car! I LOVE IT! It looks SOO COOL! I wanna get one, even though I haven't finished my buggy yet....

[Soya]

man, that thing looks awesome!! Bet assembling it will be fun:p

[Usagi]

The Cross and Tecracing options are out, but the Pit/Shim rubber is not out until 2 more weeks in japan.

[TheNige]

Usagi: is there a link to any info on the Cross and Tecracing options? What are the details?

[Usagi]

Hi guy,

I see what i can do.........

[Mustang_child]

i wonder if u can spin out with that lol
:D

[cavfan2]

I put money down on one yesterday, the hobbie shop is expecting them next week, I checked towers site, they show them in stock, so if anyone wants to get one right away...

[cavfan2]

This thing is cool!!!! I have never put together a Tamiya kit (RC anyways) and all the parts are beautiful!!! This kit looks like its worth way more than the 175 the hobbie shop sells them for. And from looking over the instructions, it will be fun to build, lots of little screws and stuff...:rolleyes: As for the pinions, yes, the motor is fixed, but, it looks like you can put slots in the chassis to move the motor back and forth to accomodate different pinions. I will find out more as I build it. Thats all for now!!

[cavfan2]

Just finished puting the chassis together, no electronics yet, its cool. Some stuff to look out for: Watch were you put certin bearings. MG4 and MG5 look a lot alike, I switched them around a few times, luckily I didn't need to dissasemble a bunch of stuff to fix it. In steps 4 and 10, you put ball nuts (as tamiya calls them) in the A-arms. I did all of them at once and made shure I made left and right sides, and put the ball nuts on the right side of the arms. In step number 25, the cowl piece that has the ball studs for the rear shocks, the studs are realy hard to get to thread in. The manual suggests that you use neddle nose pliers, but its still hard. I would recomend a nut driver of the right size. I didn't have the right size, but one that was close, and got it started and finished up with the pliers. Overall, its an easy kit to build straight from the instructions.

[StevePond]

Nice to know the cars are getting out there now. Please let me know what you think when you get the car running. I really like the way the car runs overall.

[Usagi]

cross is still releasing new options, and square......... etc. the tech chassy looks great. My friend bought one and it looks great

[cavfan2]

Ok, I got a digital camera the other day, so here are some pics. Hopefully they will work.

[cavfan2]

and what you get in the box

[cavfan2]

Here are some pics with the body all done, minus the drivers helmet

[RichieRich]

Cool car! I think I may want one too. :D

[IanMan]

The Coolest R/C car ever produced! Tamiya really out did themselves. I don't care if I can race it or not. I just wanna build two, one for my bench and one to drop a 12 turn, & a quantum in to roll around parking lots and Carpe tracks.

[cavfan2]

Well, I actualy got it running the other day with a P2K2 pro, cyclone and some older 1500 batteries. The batteries don't let it perform as well as it could, but it still did OK with fixed gearing and stuff. Tamiya got the F1 direction change down realy good. The thing just snaps the direction you steer RIGHT NOW. Even with a slow standard servo. Dosen't realy matter the speed either, it turns. Watch out for stuff getting loose. The pivot bushings for the suspention work free over time. I just tightened them up realy tight, but a little thread lock never hurts anything.

It helps to sweep the area your running on too. It picks up every stone it runs over. None realy get stuck very long, but its anoying to hear it scrape a rock along a few feet. Sometimes they get caught in the way of the servo, but they work themselves free most of the time. It will be wise to pick up a spare front wing, one for show and one for go.

All it needs now is the 17x2 mod I bought today and a few matched stick packs. I will also try to get some action shots as soon as it stops raining outside.

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

more pics plz..:D

[rcgary]

Our track has kept a decent F1/LeMans class going over the years, and a few guys have now showed up with F201s. Top speed with a p2K2 is almost identicals to an F103 with a buchi. But handling is still very much in the 103's court. I still think Tamiya should race this in the TCS with mods. Handout Tamiya mods instead of handout mabuchi's....Hmmmmmmm

Gary

[Lord_bunker]

i got into the f1 miniz so now i want a 1/10 one.

rcca did an article on it. it's n the july issue. i get it early by susbsription. they said a 19 spec motor worked about the best in it with it's fixed gearing. i think they also said somthing about an upgrade later to be able to change the gearing.

i'll have to wait for a mclaren body so i can have one to match my mini z.

[cavfan2]

I went out and bought a GM V6r for it. Got it hooked up today. Its a better fit than the cyclone. Its finaly gonna be nice outside for pics tomarrow, so hopefuly...

for now, some with the body off

[Serius Black]

Anyone notice all the F103 chassis for sale in the classifieds? I wonder what they're planning on buying? :p

[rcgary]

I'm keeping my f103. Too much sentimental value (30 seconds away from Japan...Damn!). LOL

[cavfan2]

Ok, fresh off the digital camera, some action shots. Sorry if there not the best quality, but it was a one man show, and driving and taking pics at the same time dosen't alway work right.

[cavfan2]

And another one

[cavfan2]

One shot going away

[cavfan2]

This one was one of the first ones I did. I had the camera in a different shooting mode than the rest. I think the effect is sortta cool.

[JitsuGuy]

oops, nevermind.

[Flying Fossil]

Hey would one of you guys with a digital camera, do a close up of the wiring you have done.
I am about to wire mine up using a Chameleon 19T, Novak XXL FM receiver, and a LRP Quantum sport.
There ain't a lot of room in here.:p :p :p :p :p

[Kdd]

Hey all... You think a small brushless would fit in there????

That would be too cool to have it hitting 50 - 60 mph...


Just daydreaming.....


sees ya'll

[JitsuGuy]

I bet this car brings F1 back to the tracks. They're so cool, people will just buy them, then when other people see them they'll buy them, then you'll have enough to have a racing class of them! I can't wait!

Jits

[rcgary]

I dunno. I'm still hanging onto my F103. At least till a TRF version of the 201 comes out

[Flying Fossil]

If people are still running the F103 in Wisconsin, go for it.
The class died in So. Calif 2 years ago and I have heard that Tamiya is no longer producing parts.
If the new car brings the class back more power to it. Mine will be on the ground this weekend with 19t motor, 2400 batteries and F-1 tires and wheels.
Hope this becomes the spec class.

[StevePond]

I just got back from Japan, and I think I ended up spending about $600 on option parts for the 201! I got all the Square Tech Racing, and Five Star parts, (although I couldn't find ANY Cross parts in seven different hobby shops) plus Pit Shimizu soft compound tires. I even got some bootleg Marlboro stickers to complete the detail job. :D I can't wait to tear into this thing and build up a custom version.

[TheNige]

Steve: I have some of the Cross parts coming from Rainbow Ten. Still trying to get them to get me the Uppder deck too. Keep an eye on my site if you need to get anything else.

[Flying Fossil]

That's my fear Steve. In order for this to be a fun race car, it will require about $1000.00 US and I aint gonna do it.

Im not even convinced all those parts and money will make it all that fast.

Mine has or will become a functional F-1 Model.

Now Back to my NTC3 nitro car.

[TheNige]

you don't need all those parts to make it good.....they are just nice to have...just good tires, gearing, and motor are about all it needs.

[Flying Fossil]

I have the 19T motor in the car with stock gearing and tires.
Granted, the tires are junk, but won't affect straight line speed, which is dismal considering that the F-103 with a Mabuchi or Johnson will blow its doors off.
Different motor mount, and gearing may help, but not a lot I don't think.

[StevePond]

FF - the car is plenty fun just the way it is, maybe a 19T Chameleon motor to spice it up a little, but that's all it needs. I bought all these parts for a different reason - I love cool stuff! I don't think any of it is necessary. Maybe some of the parts could incrementally help performance, much like any other car, but I'm building mine purely for looks. If the track operators are smart enough to require the cars run basically stock (maybe a motor change, shock oil and springs, but that's it), then a class for this car could REALLY take off. If they (the track operators) let you run whatever you want, then everyone else is going to think they need to spend a bunch of money on hop-ups as soon as someone with a pimped out car beats them. Do whatever you can to limit modifications to the car at your local track, and trust me, it will become a very big class.

[Flying Fossil]

I agree with you Steve, A lot of eye candy will become available for the car, and I intend to do whatever I can to encourage a spec class for the car.
19T motor
Any F201 tire/wheel combo (when avail)
Aftermarket motor mount (to allow gearing changes)
Any shock/spring combo (when avail)
That's pretty much it.

I have found that the front shocks on the car are pretty much non functional. The plastic swaybar pretty much does what need to be done and shock dampening is not really neccessary.

Some of the super soft plastic suspension stuff needs to be addressed. I broke a steering knuckle in the rear with a very gentle roll over.

I do hope this thing takes off. Love F-1

[StevePond]

I'm a racer and instinctively, I want to be able to change ratios, but the more I thought about it concerning this car, I'm thinking "why bother?" Think about it, fixed timing 19T motors (I know both Trinity and Reedy make them) and fixed gearing. You can always argue to allow just one more mod, but I think this car is best left alone with the exception of the motor, and different shock springs to suit track conditions - that's it. It eliminates alot of the tuning and leaves a lot of time for fun. Just my .02.

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

more naked pics needed!!! this car is just awesome!!!

[TheNige]

I agree with Steve on wanting to eliminate tuning.....and with the tunibilty of the F201 you'd think it would be a never ending process. Well, i've been racing my against F103 and Cross cars in our race series here and have not finished lower than third...last night I got my first win (35 minute race).

I don't have any set-up boards...and only a rudimentary degree measuring device. I've been runing the stock oil in the shocks from day 1 and have pretty much not had to fiddle with any of the suspension settings to get this car hooked up.

I am running an adjustable motor mount and front one way along with Pit Shimizu tires. On a tight and twisty track the F201 will eat the F103 or Cross alive. Even after changing the gearing and running 2000 packs (compared to 1700 for F103) the F201 is still slower on the straight. We only allow Sport Tuned motors.

I don't think I'll drive an F103 again.

[Flying Fossil]

Originally posted by TheNige
I agree with Steve on wanting to eliminate tuning.....and with the tunibilty of the F201 you'd think it would be a never ending process. Well, i've been racing my against F103 and Cross cars in our race series here and have not finished lower than third...last night I got my first win (35 minute race).

I don't have any set-up boards...and only a rudimentary degree measuring device. I've been runing the stock oil in the shocks from day 1 and have pretty much not had to fiddle with any of the suspension settings to get this car hooked up.

I am running an adjustable motor mount and front one way along with Pit Shimizu tires. On a tight and twisty track the F201 will eat the F103 or Cross alive. Even after changing the gearing and running 2000 packs (compared to 1700 for F103) the F201 is still slower on the straight. We only allow Sport Tuned motors.

I don't think I'll drive an F103 again.

Sounds pretty promising. In So. Calif. I can see it developing into a 19t motor spec class with minimal mods allowed.
Anxious to get some tires and TB01 gears and give it a rip.

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

TTT you guys, post some pics!!!!
:D :eek: :D


please?:D

[cavfan2]

Sometime this week I will get new action shots up, hopefuly a little better than the last ones. I can do a few static shots as soon as the battery charges for the camera. That way you can see how the wiring is set up in the car and all. I got rid of the cyclone and got a V6r for it, so the chassis is a lot cleaner now. The bad part is that on road isn't very popular around my area, so parts are not stocked, let alone hop up parts. I realy wanna set of tires and an ajustable motor mount, there just hard to get in my area. Oh well, thats all for now.

[TheNige]

Here's a pic of the Cross Chassis. It comes with upper and lower decks. You'll also notice the Kose aluminum dog-bone shafts and Tobee Craft threaded shock bodies.

[TheNige]

Cross Lower Deck

[TheNige]

Cross Bulk Heads and Tobee Craft Spur Adapter

[rcgary]

can you use side by side packs with this chassis?

[TRI-TURBO]

:eek: :eek: now that makes me want to go out and get the F201....does anybody know if Tamiya's going to make a
TRF verson of the F201??

[Flying Fossil]

Originally posted by TheNige
Cross Bulk Heads and Tobee Craft Spur Adapter

Nice - But - there goes the spec class

[Usagi]

Look for even more option partsd during Last part of July and Aug.........
I said those cross double decks would a sweet trick for the 201! wow arn`t they!

[cavfan2]

Well, I stayed home from work sick, and had the car out and the camera charged. Wanted to get action shots, but just didn't feel up to it. So, I got some chassis pics for you.

[cavfan2]

another one

Opps, I did it wrong

[cavfan2]

Ha!

[cavfan2]

Ha Ha!

[cavfan2]

One more

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

that is sweet!
is the crossracing car yours also?

[cavfan2]

I wish the cross one was mine! I can't find any hop-ups for it yet in my area. Realy, there isn't any place to race near me, I got it to run around and have fun with. So the more fun I can have with it without spending money on it, the better, I think. But it still would be cool to get my hands on that chassis. At least I could put my matched packs in and realy have a rocket!

[Nofri]

I already have a F103RS chassis from Tamiya (over 3 years) but I would buy a new car, but i'm choosing between a F102, Corally C4 and a TA04 PRO. It is a quit difficult choice you know? :) Does any of you know where I can et the graphiet chassis plate in Holland? (or Germany)

btw, I want to see more pictures please ! :D :)

[rcgary]

Dude, get a 414M2 World Champs edition. This car rocks! Otherwise, get a TA-04R. It's got almost all the hop ups you'd want.

[Nofri]

Yeah, but because I'm a F1 fan i am crazy about Formula1 models, especially this Tamiya F1 2001.

[cavfan2]

Hopefully thease pics are better than the last round I took. Just out on the street is all. No track action. You guys better thank me too, because I lost the right front axle in the middle of the session somewhere, and can't find it. I was wondering why the thing started pulling to the right. Oh well, time to upgrade I guess. On to the pics!!!!!!

[cavfan2]

Another one

[cavfan2]

More still

[cavfan2]

Ok, last one for now, maybe I will find another one worth posting later.

[flomofo]

my litle cousin has a t3 truck and after watching my ft tc3 roll around a track he wants to get into racing cars and im choosing between the high performance and easily upgradble tc3 against the great looks and posible cheap racing he could do with an F1 car in spec racing.

he needs for mostly fun but he will probably race(after he sees a race or two) every once in a while too and i want him to be able to afford everything and still be very competitive but a durable payground car.

thx for your replies

[Nofri]

******* that car is pretty! :)
How much does the car weight when it has an carbon upper and lower deck?

[CookieDude]

hey cav what motor are you using?

just got mine built not impress with the speed this car is a lil too heavy i think

[Usagi]

Been wanting to build one of these with optional parts. Have a manual, but i have no time to get around to building one of these.

[cavfan2]

Hey Cookie, I got a 17x2 orion motor in mine right now. Everybody says that 19 turns are the perfect match, but I don't think that 17 turns are all that bad for the F1 either. It runs over 6 min with old 1500s, the motor dosen't get to hot underneeth the body. Of course I can only use my old 1500 sport packs right now because all my matched packs are made side by side. I think things would get toasty if I put some serious voltage through the motor tho. Just haven't broke down and bought a couple of matched stick packs yet.

[CookieDude]

Yea i heard most ppl saying 19t is the best for it too

Is it just me or this god damn thing picks up every rock and stuff off the road possible

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

lol
did you get the front drive thing figured out?
try to find a CVD the right size

[cavfan2]

Its not just you cookie, mine picks up rocks all the time. I swepped the driveway where I run the thing so I wouldn't have to hear that nasty scraping noise anymore.

And no, I didn't find the dogbone I lost last time I ran it. I think I'm gonna pull out the front drivetrain to make it RWD for the time being. I don't think it will spin out to much, and I may get it to do some cool drifting action like that. Maybe some more speed too.

[CookieDude]

RWD probably a lot more speed then 4WD but really good luck not crashing with those trashy tires they gave you.........Even with 4WD i had horrible crashes and spin outs front is like twisted already haha flying down my street the car did a lil hop made a sharp right BANG!!! Plus it was at night total SOB to find my tire which came out

another thing i dont like about this Inday car is, it is a lot heavier compare to the older Tamiya Indies making it slower.

[RC-ZOMBIES]

F1 racers...check out these micro F1... can't wait to get a couple and do some tabletop racing... :D

[RC-ZOMBIES]

Here's another pics. Those cars very nice... the F1 babes aren't bad either.... ;)

[CookieDude]

LOL MY F 201 just got ran over by a car trying to race it

lucky sob i only lost a rim HAHAHA!!

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

lol

[Nofri]

Okay, it is known that teh F103 is faster on the straigh but slower in the cornerings then the F201, But who is really faster when you look at the lap time?

Has someone experience with Racing the F201 in an 4WD TC class? How was it? (their weight are quit the same)

[RC-ZOMBIES]

Originally posted by Nofri
Okay, it is known that teh F103 is faster on the straigh but slower in the cornerings then the F201, But who is really faster when you look at the lap time?

Has someone experience with Racing the F201 in an 4WD TC class? How was it? (their weight are quit the same)

F201 are slower than the 4wd TC class cars. even when running a Spec19T motor the F201 is still slower. It might be do to the fixed gearing and tires. Adjustable motor mounts should fixed the speed problem. Stock tires are good for 1 day of racing. Just received some Pit tires...can't wait to try them this weekend.

[azDan]

Norfri,

the F201 stock out of the box is slower than most touring cars. Last weekend I decide to guts it out and run mine against stock touring cars two weekends ago. I have the TECH adjustable motor mount, chassis, 3 racing center shafts, TECH front one way and rear delrin diff. Plus Pit tires. I notice as well as others that my F201 had enough speed overall to compete but had problems losing the rear end around the corners. I'm using stock springs and the heaviest weight oil tamiya offers. Harder springs are a definate must. And I'm waiting for those cool Tobee craft shocks to come in the mail.

Anyway, If I had to choose the most important hopups for the f201 they would be:

1. Pit Shimizu Tires
2. Adjustable motor mount.
3. Shock Springs.
4. Center Main shafts. (3-Racing are Great!)

Hope this helps...What does everyone else think the most vital hopups are???

[rcgary]

Okay, it is known that teh F103 is faster on the straigh but slower in the cornerings then the F201, But who is really faster when you look at the lap time?



I cannot more stongly disagree! Not only is an F103 faster on the straight, it IS faster into, through, and out of the corners. Lap wise, comfort wise, controlability wise, and drivability wise, I'll take an F103 over an F201 any day! It just flows so much better and is easier to drive. The F201 will be better once a front one way comes out, but I still think the f201 is a better performing car. Just my 2 cents.

[Nofri]

Okay, thanks for your replys! :) Too bad that the car is an inch longer then the F103, sow the F201 F2001 body doesn't fit :)
But why is everybody saying that a 19 wounds motor is the best for the F201?? (because I'm thinking to buy a 11 wouns moto for in my F103, and have the option to place it in an F201)

[azDan]

Originally posted by Nofri
Okay, thanks for your replys! :) Too bad that the car is an inch longer then the F103, sow the F201 F2001 body doesn't fit :)
But why is everybody saying that a 19 wounds motor is the best for the F201?? (because I'm thinking to buy a 11 wouns moto for in my F103, and have the option to place it in an F201)

Nofri,

The final drive ratio of the stock F201 is 7.15 which is optimum for 19 turn motors. With a 11 turn you'll have to drop down teeth in pinion gear to have the optimum gear ratio, plus you'll need an adjustable motor mount.

I'm surprised that tamiya made the f201 with such a ratio and not closer to 6.00 for stock motors. But maybe they anticipated this f201 being a 19 turn spec class. ooh well who knows. hope this helps. just my 2 cents.

[RC-ZOMBIES]

I race with the 19T and the motor get fairly hot do to no ventalation . By clipping on the TB-EVO heatsink to help dissapate the heat. You have to sacrife the upperbrace to make it fit. I have the aluminum adjustable motor mount on mine and the upperbrace doesn't work with it. here's a pic.

[RC-ZOMBIES]

Here's my McLaren/Mercedes on the F201:

[Nofri]

Originally posted by RC-ZOMBIES
I race with the 19T and the motor get fairly hot do to no ventalation . By clipping on the TB-EVO heatsink to help dissapate the heat. You have to sacrife the upperbrace to make it fit. I have the aluminum adjustable motor mount on mine and the upperbrace doesn't work with it. here's a pic.

Hey man, I have that body for my F13 to! :) (altow it is messed up after riding against walls :D ) Do you have pictures from the side of your McLaren?

Sow when I use the adjusteble motor mount, a 11T motor will work?

[RC-ZOMBIES]

Nofri... I don't see any problems using a 11T as long as you have the adjustable motor mount from Tech-Racing. Tech-Racing motor mount I think is the best out there right now... it lets you adjust the motor my sliding the motor in or out. the other's I've seen only adds another mounting hole only giving you 2 gear ratios to work with. With the Tech-Racing mount you'll have to modify the stock chassis to make it fit correctly. This is where a Dremel tool comes in handy.... :D

Here's another pic of the McLaren... best side view I have for the moment....

[Flying Fossil]

Originally posted by TheNige
Here's a pic of the Cross Chassis. It comes with upper and lower decks. You'll also notice the Kose aluminum dog-bone shafts and Tobee Craft threaded shock bodies.

Are those drive shafts the Tech Racing universals ??

[Flying Fossil]

Originally posted by azDan
Norfri,

the F201 stock out of the box is slower than most touring cars. Last weekend I decide to guts it out and run mine against stock touring cars two weekends ago. I have the TECH adjustable motor mount, chassis, 3 racing center shafts, TECH front one way and rear delrin diff. Plus Pit tires. I notice as well as others that my F201 had enough speed overall to compete but had problems losing the rear end around the corners. I'm using stock springs and the heaviest weight oil tamiya offers. Harder springs are a definate must. And I'm waiting for those cool Tobee craft shocks to come in the mail.

Anyway, If I had to choose the most important hopups for the f201 they would be:

1. Pit Shimizu Tires
2. Adjustable motor mount.
3. Shock Springs.
4. Center Main shafts. (3-Racing are Great!)

Hope this helps...What does everyone else think the most vital hopups are???

My car is almost identical to yours.
Pits hard tires warm weather (work well)
Tech Racing adjustable Motor mount
Kose dog bone center shaft kit
Square shock rebuild kit (shaft and piston) with 70 front 80wt rear
23t Pinion - 55t Spur
19t Chameleon

The car is now fun to drive.

I will still add the CVD Universal drive shafts, Tobee center gear adapter, and the Cross springs or Tamiyas if they ever get here

Tires are first and foremost on the list of required changes in my opinion.

[Nofri]

OW man! I still just can't choose between this beautiful F201 or a Touring Car, altough I already have an F1 car......

How was your experience (if you have) when you raced first the F103RS, en then you raced the F201, was it dissapointing? Or was it tile 'owno, i wished I didn't sols my F103) Just courious :)

Can someone give me a few VERY good reason why to choose the F201, above a Toring Car? (don't say "Because it's an F1 car", yes it's a good reason, but not a VERY GOOD reason :))

[Flying Fossil]

Originally posted by Nofri
OW man! I still just can't choose between this beautiful F201 or a Touring Car, altough I already have an F1 car......

How was your experience (if you have) when you raced first the F103RS, en then you raced the F201, was it dissapointing? Or was it tile 'owno, i wished I didn't sols my F103) Just courious :)

Can someone give me a few VERY good reason why to choose the F201, above a Toring Car? (don't say "Because it's an F1 car", yes it's a good reason, but not a VERY GOOD reason :))

No one can make your choices for you dude, If you likes em, you buys em, if not you don't. Pretty simple concept but it works.
I raced a F103 for years till the class died. I hope the F201 will catch on.
You don't and can't compare a F103 to a F201 or a sedan to fhe F201 just like you don't compare a Nitro sedan to an electric mini.

There all quite different.

[Nofri]

I know they are different, but after my F103RS I wan't to race on circuits, but the thing I like, is setting up the car, and that is what you just can't do with the F103RS (It can, but you can't change that much on the setup). Therefore, I'm looking for an car, a good car that has the options that I wish. But then the F201 car comes, and it makes my choice difficulter, because it's an Formula 1 car ( a beautifull one) but it is "slower" then what I can get. :) Altough I can't compare an F1 car and an TC)

Is it true if I'm saying that the F201 has not that much set up options than another touring car?

[flomofo]

my cousin is maybe now deciding on buying the xxs the tc3 or the f201

he definatelt like the looks of the f1 car and all three choices are rtr but his main concern will be money with important upgrades like a new motor , motor mount , threaded shocks and tires about how much does this car cost?

[rcgary]

414m2 world champs edition. You don't need to spend 3 times the cost of the origional car to get it to perform correctly.

[TomJ]

Finally, a question that made me register, hope I'm posting correctly. Anyway, how do you adjust the tweak on the F201 chassis? The right rear tire is lighter. Thanks

[rcgary]

how are you measuring it? Put more preload on the left front tire. That should take car of things.

[Mobil1]

Has anyone put a Hitec servo in their F201??? I just got one and dont have any spare Airtronics or Futaba servos that arent "standard." And, if I use another company's servo horn, will it be TCS legal? I just emailed Tamiya USA's contact, so Im waiting on that. For the TCS race, what is the prefered 24 turn motor for the F201 class? Thanks!

[Flying Fossil]

Originally posted by Mobil1
Has anyone put a Hitec servo in their F201??? I just got one and dont have any spare Airtronics or Futaba servos that arent "standard." And, if I use another company's servo horn, will it be TCS legal? I just emailed Tamiya USA's contact, so Im waiting on that. For the TCS race, what is the prefered 24 turn motor for the F201 class? Thanks!

I don't think any rules have been established yet or even if there will be a class for the F-201 other than exibition.
If they don't do something about the tires, I doubt if there will be a class. Kit tires are pretty grim.

I believe you can use any servo saver you like, just like reciever and speed control.

[Nofri]

Is it true that in the Tamiya Euro Cup, the F103 chassis is scrapped of the legal list? If it is, everybody with an F103 chassis can't race anymore with that car right? And where does the GT class going to?

Sorry for the poor English :)

[rcgary]

Euro cup races are F201 chassis only. The F103 is dead. The only exception is the US race. We "may" still use the F103, but the word isn't out on that quite yet.

Gary

[Nofri]

Can or have someone a pic of the motormount part only? (just currious :))

What speed would you get with an 19T motor? (you dont need a adjustable motor mount if you use a 19T motor right?)

[SARacer]

Whoaa!

This makes me wanna go buy one right now!
What are the best hop ups to get and what are their item numbers? Pics?

[TheNige]

SARacer: Go to google.com and do a search on "Tamiya F201". You'll come across some sites that sell F201 hop-ups and have articles on the cars posted.

The F201 is a great car and is going to be around for years to come.

[speedydave]

I don't want to sound like a newbie here(I'm definitely not), but how fast are these things? The only reason I'll go back to onroad is if it's fast(which is why I want an NTC3), but these are cheap, and cool because they're so realistic(and F-1), so...yeah..lol. Also, what hop-ups would you guys recommend out of the box? Also, do these have fixed motor positions(fixed gearing) like most Tamiyas? If so, what's the hottest motor I could stick in one? I'd probably go only as low as a 19T(chamelion), but it'd be fun to pick up a speed gems pro and mess around with a low turn mod, if I won't overheat it. Thanks. :)

[RcLaB1]

anyone know a Link on a Xtreme F201
say for example,
a F201 with a 11turn motor, Cross Racing Chassi....etc.....


thanks

how well does it run with a 11 turn motor

[TheNige]

RCLab1: I'm not allowed to post the link to my site here but you can go to google.com and do a search for "Tamiya F201" and you see some sites that have lots of stuff for the F201.

[BMW Power]

Hi guys,
Just wondering (and this may be a dumb question) - Are there any different bodies available for this chassis? I love F1 cars, and this looks like a beautiful rendition of the real thing. But admittedly I am most certainly not a Ferrari fan. I would love to use a Williams body or perhaps a Jordan. Is there such an option, or should I simply paint the body provided with different livery (even though the bodies wouldn't be accurate). Thanks in advance.

[TRF Drive Hard]

Originally posted by speedydave
I don't want to sound like a newbie here(I'm definitely not), but how fast are these things? The only reason I'll go back to onroad is if it's fast(which is why I want an NTC3), but these are cheap, and cool because they're so realistic(and F-1), so...yeah..lol. Also, what hop-ups would you guys recommend out of the box? Also, do these have fixed motor positions(fixed gearing) like most Tamiyas? If so, what's the hottest motor I could stick in one? I'd probably go only as low as a 19T(chamelion), but it'd be fun to pick up a speed gems pro and mess around with a low turn mod, if I won't overheat it. Thanks. :)

I had something like that when i first got my tamiya rc... yes it was my first... i forgot which one it was but i know it was a nissan R something something... anywhoooo... i didnt know much about rc, like i said it was my first... first thing was first, i wanna go fast... i slapped a speedgem 17t in it... it was fast... but i wanted faster... thats when trinity caught my eye with their motors... i got a D3 for the first time... 12hex wind... wow that thing was a bullet... ESC? what ESC? i used my MSC... never knew what a ESC was... but it worked... you should be able to change pinion size... the speed is great, for a 2wheel drive chassis, its quick... what did i do with it? heck i think i destroyed that sucker lol:p but it was a long time ago... but Dave, if i had one, im sure enough to tell you more... but a a hot mod motor wont kill it... and their are optional parts for it... i know guy who can get you aluminum parts cheaps for it;)

Ted

LOL i just realized this is the F201 thread... not F102 or something like that lol
:rolleyes:

[TheNige]

Yes there is another body set available for the car and there are various decal sets made by AMS and others available. Check out the google instructions above and you'll run across some sites that sell them.

[Scarab RC]

I'm new to the electric on-road scene but an expert at Nitro based RC. I'm currently racing an HPI Micro RS4 at my LHS. I've done pretty well so I'm considering moving on to the Tamiya TL-01 Spec class or F201 class. My LHS follows the TCS rules for each class so I'm wondering what hop-ups, motors, etc most of you use to be competitive. I think that according to TCS rules you have to use ONLY Tamiya hop-ups for the F201 to compete in TCS. Please let me know what you guys run so that I may make a more informed decision.

Thank you,

Scarab

[Scarab RC]

Does anyone post here? I'm starting to worry about getting into this class now. It seems dead.

Scarab

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

www.formula1-rc.com

[Scarab RC]

Thank you.

Scarab

[jbrians]

My friend just purchased an F201 here in the Philippines. Is this category dead? Just wondering. I'm trying to help him setup his car and I find a few things that needs to be strengthened, updated, modified or transformed. It seems this forum stopped a long time ago.

Yesterdy a during practice, the screw holding the front ball diff suddenly broke off. We were wondering if that was a flaw, a freak incident or an error in his building part.

He has not yet driven it on a race and still using the 540 sport tuned motor.

BTW, I'm driving my own TA04-R car.

[InspGadgt]

The class is definately not dead. But many people post on the formula1-rc website as it is strictly a F1 site. There is lots of good information there.

Diff screws breaking is actually a quite common thing with the stock diffs. The best fix for that is to replace the diffs with the Tamiya lightweight diffs that use a single screw with a nut combination like any other ball diff.

[RC-ZOMBIES]

I was looking at David Jun's set-up on the Tamiya website..
What is metric 3000wt oil equivalent to?

[InspGadgt]

30wt

[RC-ZOMBIES]

THanks InspGadgt...
:)

[WRXpilot]

I got one of these over the holidays, and I've been following the advice for setup here and the other site, and I have some questions now that I'm getting to the point of deciding on final setup before building the shocks and installing the electronics.

Following the DJ setup, I never installed the stabilizer plate (clear thing) in the front suspension, and plan on buying the Tamiya racing springs. As asked above, the DJ setup states 3000wt oil; I thought it was concluded that this meant he was using 3000wt silicone oil (such as would be usually used in diffs, like what Kyosho sells) in the shocks because of the "nail" style piston.

Is that not true, should I just get plain old 30wt shock oil then?

As far as motor choice, it seems that the majority feel a 19T spec-class motor is a perfect match. The Chameleon 2 Pro seems to be a nice choice there, but for the same price I can get a Team Orion machine-wound 19T triple Orbital Pro. What kind of difference am I likely to see in performance between these two motors? The Orion would let me adjust the timing, but I'm not sure I know enough about motor tuning for it to do any good. Otherwise they seem close in features, as much as I can tell with all the marketing-speak in each of their features.

Also, I'm somewhat concerned about the motor-ring spacer like piece that goes between the motor and mount on the kit. It seems like it will block off all the vents on the end of the motor can. Cooling already seems to be an issue with this car, has anyone had problems because of this spacer? Should I cut out holes for the motor vents in it?

I guess that's all I can think of... sorry for the long post.

[RC-ZOMBIES]

Originally posted by WRXpilot
.....

Is that not true, should I just get plain old 30wt shock oil then?

........


see the F201 forum at rctech...they something different...


Fhttp://www.rctech.net/forum/index.php

[InspGadgt]

Oh yeah....3000 weight...I was thinking 300 weight like the shock oils used on Mugen cars but 3000 is the gear diff grease. That's super thick stuff.

[CarterTG]

As announced on another RC forum, Tamiya's planning to release (http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/news0302/news7.htm) ANOTHER F1 kit. This will be with the BMW Williams FW24 body. Kit #58303 carries an MSRP of 25000 yen, or roughly $209usd. This is the same MSRP that the Ferrari debuted at, so the streetprice should settle in the same territory. Official release toward the end of February though.

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/news/news0302/58303.jpg

Had I known my wish would be granted THIS quickly, I woulda wished for a million bucks first! :D

I wonder if one of the winning concours entries (Williams F1) at the TCS had anything to do with this release.

[CarterTG]

also of minor interest on their web announcement is the FW24 spare wheel: Item #51009

[oldginger]

Calling all Tamiya F2001 fans~ Go take a look of these real high quality hop-up parts for your F2001 at http://www.rchub.com. According to RCHub.com (the distributor), they should receive their first shipment by this coming weekend.

[oldginger]

http://www.rchub.com/gfx/3racing/F201/280/TF201C001.jpg

This is the graphite conversion kit I am talking about. I will post other hop-up parts for the F2001 here later on. Enjoy your F-1 dream~

[CarterTG]

Ladies and gentlemen, I believe we've found the suspects who burned down the Cross factory in Japan. ;) :D

j/k

It looks like we have a THIRD player (http://www.eaglemodel.com/jp/cont01/sin5.html) in the CF Chassis game, although it may be the same product with a different distributor. It's only a tiny thumbnail on that page, but the way it's photographed looks strangely similar.

[TheNige]

Yes, I thinkt hat Eagle racing is the same company that is making the chassis as those available at RCHub and Formula 1 R/C.

If you really want to check out a nice hop-up check out these aluminum A-Arms

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113708

[CarterTG]

http://www.tamiya.com/english/nurn2003/photo/williams.jpg (http://www.tamiya.com/english/nurn2003/photo/williams.htm)

[lipm3]

has anyone tried to convert this little bad boy to nitro yet? ya know what would bereally cool is a 4 stroke in this car, that way you do not need a tuned pipe, plus it would sound awesome!:)

[CarterTG]

Originally posted by lipm3
has anyone tried to convert this little bad boy to nitro yet?

Nige's site at Formula1-RC (http://www.formula1-rc.com) mentions it.

[old phart]

Excuse me for barging in here, but do you fellas know if the Tamiya tires will fit the Duratrax Delphi Indy car? I just bought it and the tires do not stick at all on asphalt or concrete. It is so hard to control as is. I'm hoping there will be another mfg or aftermarket company with something that will work. Thanks!

[TheNige]

Wheels for the Tamiya F103 will fit....not the F201 wheels though. The F103 wheels and tires are slightly smaller than the Duratrax ones so it will drop your ride height some...but at least you'll have traction.

[old phart]

TheNige: Thank you for that info! :)

[old phart]

One more question: do you think products like "Tire Renue" and "traction compound" will make these hard rubber tires any better? I have some Tire Renue, got it as a freebie but have never used it. Supposed to soften tires for re-use on dirt tracks I thought. But maybe it might help these Delphi tires?

Thanks again! :)

[InspGadgt]

It might but I seriously doubt it. That rubber compound is so hard it feels slmost plastic. Better off with the F103 tires or foams with the Tamiya F103L Indy Car rims.

[InspGadgt]

what modifications are they allowing? springs? I hope at least that much. I would hope they allow for alternate tires too because the stock ones wear out extremely fast.

[oldginger]

http://www.rchub.com/gfx/3racing/F201/280/TF201C006.jpg
Manufacturer: 3 Racing Products
Product Code: TF201C006A
Description: Wheel Hubs (4pcs/set)
Distributor: RCHub.com
http://www.rchub.com

Enjoy your hobby!

[InspGadgt]

Shadow,

I'd talk to them about allowing a different tire. We've seen kit tires wear out in as little as 2 runs depending on conditins.

[supra528]

how fast can these cars go ???? and with what motor and batteries??

mike

[oldginger]

Hey guys,

You really need to check out some high quality hop-ups for your F201 at http://www.rchub.com. You may also call your LHS to contact them to place an order for you.

[TheNige]

I've seen better prices for those parts at other sites so check around.

[RC-ZOMBIES]

Originally posted by oldginger
Hey guys,

You really need to check out some high quality hop-ups for your F201 at http://www.rchub.com. You may also call your LHS to contact them to place an order for you.

Check out F1-RC... they have the same items and a whole lot more!

http://www.formula1-rc.com/

[oldginger]

hmmm... it is pretty quiet here

[Downforce]

Pits, Ride or Tamyia A's? What are the best tires for asphalt? I heard that the pits are the same compound as the A's but unbelted? Is this true?

[dsrbltoys]

I can tell you the pits are reinforced. The Tamiya seem to be a bit softer (especially the insert), but the sidewalls too. This seems to give more traction with the Tamiya tires. The pits are nice because of the different compounds they have available. The Rides seem to have the least traction, but may be better in hotter climates since only a hard is still available.

[InspGadgt]

Well what tire you use depends primarily on the temp of the surface you drive on as rubber tires are temp sensitive. We run mostly the Pit Shimizu medium compound tires which seem to work quite well. Pits are available in soft, medium, or hard for cold, mild, or hot condidionts in that order. Ride tires are available in both soft and hard compounds for cold and hot weather.

[Rinkrat99]

I was thinking of buying my first F1 car and looked at the Tamiya Ferrari 58288 or the new Williams 58303. They both have the F201 chassis so why is the newer Williams running at $195 USD?

If they are the same, then why not go for the cheaper Ferrari?

I read somewhere that the Spur/Pinion are somewhat fixed. SI this true that we cannot change the gearing?

Thanks

[InspGadgt]

Generally price differences like that are based on that Tamiya had to pay to lisence the product. Since they've had a deal with Ferrari for so long it probably doesn't cost them as much as the Williams to lisence. As for the gearing, with the stock chassis you have 2 gearing options, the stock gearing or the high speed gear set. There are aftermarket heat sink motor mounts that are adjustable so that you can use many different gear ratios.

[SteveK]

No, I think the price difference has to do with the fact that the Williams is newer, and newer vehicles, even on the same chassis, are always priced more at first.

Also, a more desireale body style with be priced higher by the sellers than others. It's also possible they don't even think about it. See the difference in TL01 prices.

[Rinkrat99]

I just posted this on http://www.formula1-rc.com/forums but couldn't get the photo added

Hi all

I installed the servo with no problem but the ESC and the Receiver will not fit together in the space provided. Attached is the pic of a proposed install location but I am not sure if it will fly.

The current ESC measures 1 9/16" (40 mm) W x 1 13/16" (47mm) D x 1 1/16" (27mm) H

I could install this one but its not much smaller 1.5" (42 mm) x 1.34" (38mm) x 0.57" (16mm)

Well the photo won't attach for some reason but the receiver is mounted across the top deck just in front of the Spur gear cover. Basically over the battery compartment in the same direction.

The ESC can then be mounted in the space provided or I could switch the positions.

Any suggestions?

[^j!nx^]

thats how i run mine. I found a really good way to run the wires. its ultra clean and you can hardly notice them

[Rinkrat99]

Can you post the wire routing? Thanks

[BiZzAr0]

iam gona get this car soon.What do i need to know,

iam thinking of buying it with the dyna run stock motor,


but what do i need to know before getting it

[Rinkrat99]

The car is fairly easy to build. The problem I have is that my ESC and Receiver do not fit the location Tamiya has set for the installation. Here is a pic

[8 Baller]

does anyone now how many turns does the motor that came with the kit have?

[InspGadgt]

I've heard anywhere from 35T to 27T...the important thing to know is that it's slower then a regular ROAR legal stock motor. But it also pulls a lot less amps so you get longer run times.

[mavrick0]

Hey guys, I picked up one of these from a friend of mine that upgraded to the Williams. My problem/question is there any way to mount sidexside packs? All my matched packs are SxS and of course the stock chassis only accommodates stick packs. I've already planned on upgrading the car with the adjustable motor mount, aluminum motor guard, stronger prop shaft kit and aluminum servo arm. I've also been looking at the carbon fiber chassis kit for it and wasn't sure if that would allow for SxS packs?

Thanx for the help.

[InspGadgt]

Mav,

http://www.formula1-rc.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=10101

That'll answer your question.

[CarterTG]

Finding out the local hobby shop is a bit flexible on their marked prices for cash purchases can be a dangerous thing. :) :D ;) Still a few bucks more than what mail-order plus shipping would've cost, but I don't mind it as long as a.) the shop isn't set firmly at full retail and b.) supporting the LHS ensures they'll be around for spares and hop-ups down the road.

Here's a shot while it's still NIB for the short duration...

[tarheelquality]

I was going to get the willams from the local shop but great planes has them way back ordered so I am getting the one with the 2 body set instead and my local shop beat the heck out of any mail order price because they know you make your profit on parts not kits. Because people will pay a little extra to have the part right now, especially on race day. $125.00!!!:D

Now I have a question, reading the Tamiya sight it looks like the willams comes with the high speed gears as stock, is this true and do they also come with the 2 body kit? I already have the gears on the way just want to know if I can cancel them.

Thanks,
Tom

[CarterTG]

The Williams kit is the ONLY kit out of the three F201s that have the high-speed gear set... and it only comes with one FW24 bodyshell.

I came THISCLOSE to getting the 2-body F201 kit too when I was in HK. The shop priced it at $795HK ($102.64usd)... plus ALL the hop-ups were stocked in spades... fully trimmed (including titanium turnbuckles) I was quoted a total around $350usd. I still kick myself for not taking the deal and suffering the added luggage. :( :mad: :confused:

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

whre can i purchase this amazing peice of art!?

-A. Swift

[Rinkrat99]

Here are the pics of the Williams FW24 finished this evening. After the whole paint fiasco the body and decals came out fairly well.

[SteveK]

Dang I want one of those! I think I'd only buy one if I can convince my friend to get one too, though.

[Doomed]

Your Williams looks great, I can only hope my Ferrari turns out as well. :cool:

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

man, that's nice..i like it..I want to get one, as these cars look like the real cars when they are on the track..i love the suspension setup too! IT also looks liek the ferrari has low drag, and a good top-end, but the bmw looks liek a downforce beast ,and would handle quite well..which one is best outta the box? also, could i cut out the air inlet above the driver's head, to get air to the engine? I wanna set a red light behind the wing too..how would i do this? not only would it help spot my car from behind on the track, but it would let others know i am a rookie..in this class!!

-A. Swift

[InspGadgt]

As for the body/wings...with the Sport Tuned Mabuchi motors the car, although quick, isn't really going fast enough for the different wings to effect the car. In this past weekend's race my rear wing got tore off from a barrier and the car still handled the same without the wing as with. You've really got to be hitting some high speeds for these wings to actually make a difference. Out of the box the cars are identical except for the Williams which comes with the high speed gear set so it will be a bit faster. But you can pick up the high speed gear set for any of the other chassis for very little money...about $8 or so. There's any number of brake light kits on the market now...just use one of them but only use 1 brake light. Some of the Novak ESC's even have a brake light kit specifically for the ESC. You can cut out the upper airbox vent hole if you wish...I guess it would get some additional air to the motor but not a whole lot because the motor is off-set to one side instead of in the middle. Also you'll weaken the body up there and when you flip the car that airbox takes quite a beating.

Here's my Toyota painted Type A body: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1044647

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

Sweet ride! did you hit sumthin? it looks liekthe nose has taken a little beating..also, will my electronics fit in the car? I got a futaba magnum sport fm 2peka radio kit, and a lrp f1 pro reverse esc...where can i purchase this car, with little hassle? tower doesn't sell it!

-A. Swift

[CarterTG]

Originally posted by XXX/TC3 Racer
...where can i purchase this car...tower doesn't sell it!


Huh? :confused: :rolleyes:

Punch either Tamiya item numbers 58288 or 58303 into Tower's search box and they come up.

Tamiya 58288 Ferrari F2001 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBUB7&P=7)

Tamiya 58303 BMW Williams F1 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXDYC7&P=C)

SpeedtechRC (http://www.speedtechrc.com) and Formula1-RC (http://www.formula1-rc.com) have also been selling the kits.

[InspGadgt]

yeah the body had nearly 1/2 a racing season on it when I took the pic so the nose was messed up a bit...now it ripped right off in the last race.

Your electronics should fit but you may have to be creative in how you make them fit. Most of us now run the ESC down in the electronic bay and the reciever on the upper deck wherever we can get it to fit under the body.

[InspGadgt]

We bought a Toyota F1 model for the decal set and are hoping to make a sticker set of the Toyota for the type A body. That's still a work in prgress at the moment. That particular one I hand painted the "brushed" look of the Toyota. Looks good in a pic or from a distance...but up close you can see the brustrokes where I hand painted it.

[Rinkrat99]

Thanks for the cudos on the body. Now let me twell you the truth!

I royallyu screwed the paint job. I used Acrylic paints for white and Blue but oversprayed with Polycarb paint and it ran faster than the car.

I ended up painting the outside of the body after i tried almost everything to remove the paint.

This way I can always touch up chip marks. hehehehehe

I still have't run it though!

I am trying to understand how hot a 27t single will get vs the Sport Tuned

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

So, what blue should I use for this car? I got an airbrush, and I really like the faskolor series by parma, I jsut do not know if they make my kinda paint, for this kinda car..lol Also, what upgrades should I get first?

-A. Swift

[SteveK]

Tamiya decals are designed to match THEIR paint, on both their models and R/C bodies. I've seen cars painted with other brands of paint, and the colors don't usually match up right: The Castrol green of the decals on a Civic stood out from the (I assume) Pactra paint. In the review for the Benneton F1 (Yellow and green livery), the guy mized his own paint, and it looked OK, but wasn't quite perfect.

I suggest picking up Tamiya paint for Tamiya bodies. The good thing about it is the model paint matches the Lexan paint, so the wings and mirrors will match.

[^j!nx^]

Originally posted by Rinkrat99
Can you post the wire routing? Thanks

better late then never

as for the Rx i took it out of its casing to make it as small as possible(ps: dont mind all the dust it hasnt been driven in like 3 months and the new digi cam picks up EVERY little spec of it)

then run the wires threw the rear sock mount/gear casing thing. just cut a small notch in it

http://slidecentral.rs-scooby.com/F1-1.JPG

this pic just shows how i put my ESC in

http://slidecentral.rs-scooby.com/f1-2.JPG

Last pic is kinda hard to shoot. But if you remove the motor its clear as day. The wires pass right under the prop shaft right into the ESC bay. No cutting or chassis mods needed

http://slidecentral.rs-scooby.com/f1-3.JPG

[CarterTG]

Originally posted by XXX/TC3 Racer
So, what blue should I use for this car?

If you're referring to the blue in the #58303 Williams kit, that's the stage I'm at now.. investigating the match between the kit's requested blue and the Tamiya Acrylic the LHS has on the shelf.

The manual calls for using Tamiya Paint #PS-4 or #PC-4. I've seen those in nearly every HK shop, but the midwest Hobby Shops nearby only carry Tamiya #X-4 Blue. Presuming Tamiya's PS-4, PC-4 and X-4 are all mixed to roughly the same hue, I'm not going through the trouble to get my hands on PC-4. I've tested X-4 acrylic on a scrap piece of lexan and it sticks/flexes like past jars of Tamiya acrylic.

In the scan below, I've compared the blue in the decal against X-4 blue. The scan still isn't 100% accurate, but the decal blue is a shade darker in real-life. This means I'll try adding a drop or three of acrylic black to get a more perfect match.

None of the other paints from Pactra or Faskolor matches any better.

Plenty of threads in the formula1-rc (http://www.formula1-rc.com) forum cover upgrade suggestions.

[InspGadgt]

In other bodies that call for that blue I've found the paint to also be a bit lighter then the decal as well. I found that simply backing the blue with black instead of white makes for a very good match.

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

Haha, here I am, sitting here, worrying about my blue paint ,when there are tornado warnings and stuff going on outside! Oh, well..So ,get the tamiya Pc-4, and back it with black, eh? sounds good..any hop-ups i should get?

-A. Swift

[InspGadgt]

Just make sure you bring your car and computer down into the storm shelter with you...hahahaha

[XXX/TC3 Racer]

haha, well, teh closest tornado was in buffalo lake, which is liek 20 miles south of here. anywho, I stayed u pteh whole night, vaccuuming up the water ,seeping into my house, so my newly finished basement was not totally flooded..I am tired!

-A. Swift

[XXXER]

hey Burt, well, we had our Tamiya TCS Race today, and, I ended up TQing and due to a technicalityWinning the Formula 1 class. Short in supply though, only 5 guys showed up. The car was stock, except for the reinforced tires, hard springs up front, and soft out back. Not shabby. the car was dialed for sure!

Another thing, could someone give me the part# for the Williams BMW O-Z Wheels? They look so much better than the lame Mesh ones. Thanks!

-Steve

[InspGadgt]

Way to go Steve! So what was the technical difficulty?

I'll check with Jake on that part number.

Burt