View Full Version : Kyosho 4WD Turbo Optima
ashilli
02-09-2002, 01:07 PM
Does anyone remember this buggy?Does anyone have one of these? I bought one of these when I was 16 and sold it 3 weeks later. Way over my head for a first RC. I saw jeep showing off his picks of the graphite RC10 and got to thinking of the cars from the late 80's. Pics would be cool.
redsmurfhat
02-09-2002, 01:50 PM
Yeah, I had one! It was really a great car. Mine was the Turbo Optima Mid SE. You don't see too many cars with a chain drive anymore. That thing was run over in the street by some jack-a** on a big ol' touring motorcycle and the only thing damaged was the body and a broken shock tower, so you know it was tough! It was pretty fast too. I was running a 20 turn motor and my friend had a RC 10 with a 17 turn. He'd kill me on the straight sections of the local track, but I was usually so far ahead after the twisties that it didn't really matter.:D
ashilli
02-09-2002, 01:55 PM
Yeah it was cool while I had it. Had never driven before and sure as hell never built something so complex either, so the constant "wrenching" drove me nuts. I bought it as a combo for $300, kit, motor, radio (stick), battery, etc. I sold it that same month to a guy for $300, he thought he was getting a deal cause the kit by itself was in most LHS for $300 alone.
Bluefire
02-09-2002, 02:07 PM
I still have a Turbo Optima Mid SE. Although it has seen some better days, I'm going to rebuild it.
ashilli
02-09-2002, 02:18 PM
Got any pics of it? I had painted my body the same orange color shown on the box.Boy did that suck. LOL. Had to hide it with alot of stickers.
StevePond
03-24-2002, 12:51 PM
I have the original Optima still. All of the Optimas were the cars to have in the 4WD class.
RichieRich
03-25-2002, 05:41 PM
Here's a picture of my Turbo Optima. I'm in the process of restoring it. I've polished the aluminum and replaced the gearcases and some miscellaneous screws. I have a NOS sway bar kit and gear set to add to it when I have time. This car is a huge pain to wrench on. When it ran, I was constantly adjusting the chain tension. It seemed to loosen up whenever if felt like it. Still looking for wheels and tires.
RichieRich
03-25-2002, 05:48 PM
Here's what it looked like after being pulled from 10 years of storage.
diesel757
05-23-2002, 08:04 PM
I have the original optima, you know the one with the pin spiked sand tires and the blue white and yellow paint scheme. Well it needs a lot parts. where can i find replacement parts for this?
RichieRich
05-24-2002, 12:06 AM
Kyosho no longer makes parts for any of the Optima series cars. Check out you local hobby shop. Sometimes they may have parts shoved away in a corner somewhere. Forget about looking at the chain hobby shops like Hobbytown USA or Hobby People. They don't have old stuff. I would check ebay. There's always a pretty solid list of Optima items for sale there. What parts are you specifically looking for?
diesel757
05-24-2002, 02:20 PM
well right now it's in the attic at my parents house, so i don't know what parts i need. but i know i need the front steering knuckles and shocks. i would also like to get new wheels and tires and a new body.
rob
fabolousRC
05-25-2002, 07:28 PM
HI guys..I own TurboOptima (it's still sitting in my room back in Indonesia) for several years now and I'm so pissed that my dad didn't let me built it myself! I solved the chain problem you guys were having by accident (I swear it was an accident). I saw this optional steel reinforced plastic belt drive way back in the 80s (my dad bought me the car sometime in 1986-1987), bought it and have the guy at the hobby shop installed it for me and I never had any problem since! (not that I ever had that problem..I just bought it cuz it looks cool lolz :D). I haven't had much time to restore it although I would love to (at one point I was going to convert it into touring with Porsche 911 Turbo Whale-Tail body style...but I was a broke ass student then) refurbished my car to remind myself how ugly (and heavy) the 4WD cars used to be :)
Oh I forgot to add something...if I'm not mistaken, the reinforced belt was originally designed for Optima Mid. It (the Mid) must have had the same wheelbase as the original Optima and the kit came with a new diff housing for the belt too.
RichieRich
05-25-2002, 11:28 PM
I seem to remember a belt drive conversion kit that was made specifically for the Optima series cars. I don't think it was made by Kyosho. Or was it?
fabolousRC
05-26-2002, 05:07 AM
if I'm not mistaken, it was made by Kyosho under their Option brand. Again, I got this conversion kit from Asia. I have no knowledge whether this particular conversion ever made it to the U.S. For example, the material of the belt was made of white semi-clear plastic where it is clear that you can see the steel liner (about 4-5 of them) along the belt. I wish I have my car on hand so I can show you guys what it looks like. The differential cover though was made from (tough) Kyosho black plastic just like the original cog of the chain drive.
diesel757
05-27-2002, 01:53 AM
ya, it was made by kyosho. i have that in stalled on mine.
LEADFOOT
05-29-2002, 08:06 PM
I don't know if you guys have tried this, but....
I was looking for some of those pyramid-lug tires that came on the optima so I could mount them to some machined aluminum rims I had. I did a 'net search (Probably w/ google) and found some guy that had laundry lists of Vintage NIB Kyosho parts. I don't have the address, but maybe you can find him.
...just though maybe I could be some help. Good luck
:cool:
Star666
05-30-2002, 08:21 PM
Me dad lets me use his Turbo Optima Mid SE whenever I want. Being thirteen only makes me even feel better. Back in the early 90's it still had spikes yet was used on-road. I find it funny today.
I actually got into R/C at 5! but anyway, I love the buggy and Kyosho should release a 4WD buggy as good as the TOMSE. Perhaps even better.
fabolousRC
05-30-2002, 11:43 PM
I read on RCCA mag new products section about a couple months ago that they're gonna produce a 4WD buggy version of the Alpha 2 series to replace the (aging) Lazer 2000. I also read that it is going to be RTR complete with the ever amazing Perfex reversible ESC and a chassis cover to prevent those ugly dirt (and water) to ever enter the tub chassis. Will they ever bring back LAZER ZX series...I doubt it. Ever since touring ruled, None of the japanese manufacturers felt necessary to ever bring back 4WD buggies unless you're a multiple champion like Yokomo. I would agree with some people in the Alpha Thread that Kyosho should dump Great Planes and copy what Tamiya has been doing: Build Kyosho USA Inc. :D Naturally the prices is going down initially then the customers will come eventually...aren't I right, guys?
CarterTG
05-31-2002, 07:02 PM
The Belt Drive Kit was INDEED a Kyosho Hop-Up Option part for the Optima and Turbo Optima. I didn't really have any adjustment issues with the old chain drive, but I upgraded to the belt in order to minimize any chances that the metal-to-metal contact could possibly contribute to any glitching. Definitely sounded more quiet once the belt replaced the chain.
That car was a lot of fun to run and tweak. Suspension still holds up great; highly adjustable.
:) Here's a current pic after 15 years of storage...
fabolousRC
05-31-2002, 10:17 PM
you know guys..back in the late 80s indonesian R/C-ers used to run this endurance that properly titled Paris-Dakar Race where their cars were abused for approximately 24 hours almost non-stop both off road and asphalt. To my recollection, Kyosho Optima series won the most out of those races without major drama...talk about durability.....
Prinler
06-19-2002, 10:16 AM
I got 3 of these babies! they rock!
Here are some pix
Prinler
06-19-2002, 10:19 AM
Ok guys HOW do i tighten the chain up? i never knew you could? Please tell me what ya know!
RichieRich
06-19-2002, 10:39 AM
To tighten the chain on the optima, you have to loosen the main front chassis screws. There's 8 of them. Then pull the front end while holding onto the rear and retighten the screws. If the chain is really loose, you might have to remove a single link. This is a real pain in the rear to do. BTW, nice Ultimas.
Prinler
06-19-2002, 10:58 AM
Thanks :) they are nice looking just working on the running good part :)
I will try to tighten them up
Prinler
06-19-2002, 10:59 AM
ok witch screws? lol
Prinler
06-19-2002, 11:06 AM
ok taking it apart I can fit my finger under the chain. I think it is kinda loose! lol
fabolousRC
06-19-2002, 11:57 PM
I wish I can help you but I think that's RichieRich's expertise...I just want to comment on CarterTG's optima..man..I wish we have those touring wheels and tires back in the days..racing them on the street would be so cool (plus we don't need to waste our spikes either)
RichieRich
06-20-2002, 03:16 PM
Does this help?
Prinler
06-21-2002, 05:04 AM
Im having some problems with the screws on the bottom they dont want to move.. and i am pushing inward really hard while im turning.. i cant seem to break them free. I have WD40 on them atm in a small amount... hope Wd40 is ok to use on it.
Also where can i get spare screws? im missing a screw that holds my motor to the body. Also missing a screw on the top will modify the pic so you know what one im talking about.
Prinler
06-21-2002, 05:07 AM
oops
RichieRich
06-21-2002, 11:44 AM
Prinler - You have just discovered one of the major design flaws of the Optima chassis. Stupid little screws that are simply not up to the task of holding the car together. :) Anyways, if I remember correctly, the instructions called for threadlock for those screws. So, if the car was built right, the threadlock is probably making it difficult to remove the screws. Try heating the screw with a butane torch (cigarette lighter) or something. :confused: Well, on second thought, maybe not after you've doused them with WD40 . Tower Hobbies sells a screw kit called "Car Aids". Anyways, I believe they have some replacement screws in that kit.
jimk72
06-22-2002, 01:23 PM
does anyone have a spare rear belt diff. Mine recently became smooth and so did my top gear. they had alot of use on them. I have replaced the top gear but all my rear diffs are for chain and I don't want to put the chain system back on.
If you have a spare or know someone that does please let me know.
thanks.
fabolousRC
06-23-2002, 02:53 AM
jimk72...I saw someone selling spare gears on ebay just now. Oh just want to let you guys know that I'm getting a Optima Pro next week. Someone is willing to let it go for dissmal amount and I'm happy that my Turbo got a new companion. I'm trying to get a Beagle (a turbo Optima copy) and try to salvage some parts out of that too. So by the end of this year, i should have some pictures of the Optima Pro (running) and my Turbo Optima too. =)
fabolousRC
06-24-2002, 12:44 AM
Ok guys..I will get Optima Pro (hopefully this wed/thur) and the "Beagle" next week also. In addition to that, I will have a stable of Lazer ZXs too. Ah, nostalgia.....
P.S: Pictures will be available as soon as they show up on my front door.
fabolousRC
07-10-2002, 11:59 PM
Ok...I failed to get a stable of Lazer ZXs...at least I got one lolz. I'm gonna buy some bearings for the steering crank and to replace some bushing parts that i saw in the manuals. I wish I can still get the optional parts though...it's so hard to find then (1992 when I bought it the first time) more than ever today. I was having trouble getting the center gear that carries the spur gear to the Optimas. Rich told me to get the center gear for the ultima which unfortunately (I don't know why) does not fit on the Optima Pro but it fits pretty well on the Beagle. On the other hand, the Beagle came with the RRP 48 Pitch conversion for Optimas/Ultimas and those gear mesh perfectly on the Optima pro! I saw some of these Center/Spur gear on stormer hobbies and they're on sale for about 12 bucks and each other spur cost about 2-3 bucks and I am planning to purchase them next week for my further Optima restoration projects.
RichieRich
07-11-2002, 12:50 AM
Dude, when are we going to see some pictures?? :) :D
Prinler
07-11-2002, 01:11 AM
Rich , Price check on Ultima RTR? with charger and no batt.?
go1d1e
07-11-2002, 05:36 AM
Lazer Alpha..
anyone still interested in these? I have a whole one, almost fully converted to on-road, but easily converted back.. have tons of spares too.. let me know if anyone might want it.. its just sitting in the original box in the garage at home :)
rich
email: smithrg@missouri.edu
CarterTG
07-18-2002, 07:17 AM
Well, I finally had some time to snap some additional pictures and reminisce about the good ol' days when I was hopelessly obsessed with the hobby...
CarterTG
07-18-2002, 07:19 AM
A shot of the original shell with my interpretation of the box's paint scheme. The windshield and windows was cut out to give it a more realistic "off-road" look and also to allow more airflow to the ESC.
CarterTG
07-18-2002, 07:24 AM
The kit was bought at my LHS. I was in there so much I probably could've clocked-in for more overtime than some of the employees! ;) A shot without the body shell...
CarterTG
07-18-2002, 07:29 AM
Just highlighting the Belt Drive Upgrade. As I recall, it came out around the time the 3130 Turbo Optima kit was nearing the end of it's shelf-life. For an afterthought, it worked great though! The blister-pack upgrade included new front and rear differential housings, a reinforced toothed belt and possibly new gearbox housing... it's been a while so the memory is fuzzy there..
CarterTG
07-18-2002, 07:35 AM
Back in MY day, two-piece wheels held onto a tire without needing CA glue! :p
fabolousRC
07-22-2002, 05:59 PM
So you're the one who's selling the Turbo on E-bay...why? :confused:
CarterTG
07-22-2002, 08:18 PM
So you're the one who's selling the Turbo on E-bay
Returning to the hobby 15 years later, I guess I never outgrew R/C, but I've outgrown off-road. Looking back on my teen years, I can understand the fascination with an off-road buggy that can seemingly go anywhere and sling roostertails of dirt...fast! I guess had I never dropped out of the hobby, I probably would have added a monster truck(s) to the collection...
but now that I'm older, I find on-road more exciting and have zero interest in off-road...not that I find anything wrong with it; just not for me... and my old interests in RC Helis is starting to reassert itself.
Given these conditions, I figure my Turbo Optima "time-capsule" is definitely going to give the winning bidder a WHOLE lot more enjoyment out of it than me. Whether that person's a nostalgia collector, a restorer, or someone who will plan on actively running it, I think that's a much better fate than if it were to sit on my shelf any longer... then again, in another 15 years of storage, one can only imagine what it might fetch on eBay then... just take a look at a Tamiya Sand Scorcher that closed at $1476!!! (eBay #1745955899)
Regardless what happens, I'll always look back on my Turbo Optima days fondly and am glad this forum gives me a chance to "immortalize" it with pictures. Long live the Turbo Optima! ;)
fabolousRC
07-22-2002, 09:53 PM
You should've told me earlier...I was looking for bodies of Turbo Optima to complete my restoration project...well..it's too late now. I hope I find another way to complete my Turbos one way..or another
CarterTG
07-22-2002, 10:38 PM
You can always just contact the winning bidder and see if they're interested in selling either one of the shells to offset whatever the auction ends at.
Good luck with the restoration!
YR4Dude
08-24-2002, 06:26 PM
Fabulous,
I have some parts for the lazer if you are interested. Just send me an e-mail of what you are looking for and maybe I can help.
My e-mail is: hsulbc@earthlink.net
I came into this forum looking for Optima Mids and Lazer discussion, I didn't realize this was an old school Optima forum. Chain drive and 3 gear trannies, ah the good'ol days.:)
Anyhow just passing through looking for the Lazer/ Mid forum.:D
fabolousRC
08-25-2002, 04:58 PM
Is that you, Roger?
hmm...that e-mail looks familiar :D
YR4Dude
08-25-2002, 05:11 PM
Yes it is.
Who might you be fabulous. Is that you John?:rolleyes:
fabolousRC
08-25-2002, 09:52 PM
nope..the same fabolousRC from Ebay :D
lowRS4
09-25-2002, 06:40 PM
I have turbo Optima SE , Is there any were I can get replacement or hop-up parts:confused:
adam lancia
10-23-2002, 01:27 PM
any of you optima guys out there in a freshly built turbo optime mid se?? it's got 90% new parts and some aftermarket stuff too. email me with an offer at tango4_4@hotmail.com,
adam
I have an old JG MFG oval converted Optima Mid that I'd love to get going again. It has a broken belt which came with a JG mfg oval conversion kit. I think JG is out of biz.
Any of these parts wouldn't by cahnce be something of this nature, would it?
fabolousRC
12-10-2002, 12:26 PM
you can some part over from ebay. I see a lot of parts for Optima Mid from now and then.
Just thought I'd post a pic of my latest restoration. Thanks to Adam Lancia for getting a belt to fit this thing.
adam lancia
01-08-2003, 09:19 AM
dana,
the car looks good!! you even have period-correct tires on it.......that's sweet! it was my pleasure to give a hand.......
adam
RCMAN66
04-15-2003, 06:33 PM
ANYBODY EVER HEAR OF AN ALUMINUM ROLLCAGE KIT FOR THE JAVELIN?
nitrobuggyfan
04-25-2003, 11:22 PM
I agree with those who say that Kyosho should make a new high-end 4WD electric buggy. Man those were the days when Tamiya and Kyosho had multiple designs of off road buggies- it was fun just picking one! I'm thinking about getting a XXX-4 but I wish there were some other choices....
RCMAN66
04-27-2003, 08:49 AM
I HAVE A HOT TRICK TURBO OPTIMA W/ BELT DRIVEN 4WD, A GOLD CHASSIS TURBO OPTIMA ALSO BELT DRIVE. PLUS IM WORKING ON A 3RD ABOUT 80 % COMPLETE. ID LIKE TO FIND A JAVELIN ROLLCAGE FOR IT ,PLUS A BUMPER, AND THE BELT GUIDES.
fabolousRC
04-30-2003, 04:06 AM
Originally posted by nitrobuggyfan
I agree with those who say that Kyosho should make a new high-end 4WD electric buggy. Man those were the days when Tamiya and Kyosho had multiple designs of off road buggies- it was fun just picking one! I'm thinking about getting a XXX-4 but I wish there were some other choices....
They just released one in UK...I forgot what it was called but it was based on the Alpha 2 touring/rally electric cars. The body looks really nice though.
fabolousRC
04-30-2003, 05:30 PM
here is the link (http://www.ripmax.com/ProductFrames/C-K30191RSE.html)
it is called Zaboon (I know how ugly the name is...lolz)
tarheelquality
05-06-2003, 07:37 PM
I now have a turbo Optima and a Salute both with unpainted bodies and in near perfect shape. In fact the Turbo has been restored and even has the mechanical speed control , 240 st motor, box , original tires(slightly worn) and original instructions. The Salute body has not been cut and I have the original instructions for it, plus it is a runner!! I also have a new built Triunph on the way.
I saved up for a long time to buy my original Turbo Optima in the '80s right after my Fast Attack was run over. It was a great car and I hate I ever let it go. I had a hot trick chassis kit for it and it was super fast.
aramis
01-03-2004, 07:09 AM
Here is one of my Javelins.These were I think the coolest of the Optima series.This one is new built.
aramis
01-03-2004, 07:18 AM
This is my Javelin runner.It handles and jumps great.I leave the chain drive in all of my cars.I love the sound they make.Very old school.As long as you use FM you are fine.Later,Jeff
tl01_staniland
01-03-2004, 06:08 PM
the person that put this up says its an optima
CarterTG
01-03-2004, 07:41 PM
The pic is fuzzy, but it doesn't seem to have a drivetrain that reaches to the front. That would lead me to guess it's maybe a Kyosho Ultima with an aftermarket saddlepack chassis or a hacked-up Optima. The wheels are classic Optima/Ultima though.
Aramis:
VERY Nice Javelins! :D
tl01_staniland
01-04-2004, 08:23 AM
He said that the belt broke...
i was just gonna ask you guys wether i should buy it... i really want it asa project car and i was wondering how hard are the parts to get for this machine?
RichieRich
01-07-2004, 05:22 PM
I just finished adding a bunch of new parts to my Turbo Optima over the holidays. It was in sad shape. Mostly, I replaced parts that were worn out. The shock seals were practically vaporized. :eek: . I did modify it a bit by installing an Option House belt drive conversion and turnbuckles. I hate threaded rods!! :D Basically all I need is a new body. I'll post some pictures later.
RichieRich
01-09-2004, 01:24 AM
Here's my Turbo naked and with the original junky body. I'm in the process of stripping the paint.
It has a new bumper, front brace, top plate, dogbones, a-arms, sway bar set, gear cover, frame rails and shock towers in addition to the belt drive conversion an turbuckles.
http://rgrodriguez.home.mindspring.com/turboptima01.jpg
http://rgrodriguez.home.mindspring.com/turboptima02.jpg
hudnut
01-09-2004, 07:48 AM
that's my buggy, I haven't driven it in a while, but I put alot of work into it.
BTW - anyone know where I can get parts for the optma? I need all new gears.
RichieRich
01-09-2004, 02:28 PM
hudnut - If you need new gears, you can probably find them on ebay. If you want gears that will mostly fit. You can purchase the Ultima gear set (part # um-01). Luckily, these parts are still available at Towerhobbies. These gears will fit fine and you'll be able to run your Optima. There are some minor differences, but they shouldn't affect the way the car drives.
hudnut
01-09-2004, 06:34 PM
awesome. I was runnin an 11t aluminum pinion, and that thing with my torquey motor (I forget exactly what motor it is) ripped my gearbox apart. I got the ultima gears on order.
TUCRACEMAN
01-09-2004, 07:00 PM
NIce loooking Optima Rich. ;)
hudnut
01-29-2004, 08:24 AM
Here's mine
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/217000-217999/217153_46_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/217000-217999/217153_45_full.jpg Let me know what you think.
RichieRich
01-29-2004, 12:02 PM
hudnut - nice car. What are you using for spring retainers? They look like automotive clamps. :)
hudnut
01-29-2004, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by RichieRich
hudnut - nice car. What are you using for spring retainers? They look like automotive clamps. :)
yup, they've never failed. and they're fully adjustable!
MrDave
02-08-2004, 06:45 AM
Here's my car I bought back in 1989.
The car cost 399.99 then and came Stock as a Belt Driven Car. I guess thats what the SE meant, was that Kyosho had modified it to Belt Drive for the Kit.
http://home.comcast.net/~davenospam/turbo_optima_mid_se_1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~davenospam/turbo_optima_mid_se_2.jpg
RichieRich
02-13-2004, 12:28 PM
MrDave - that doesn't look like the original body, is it? Yeah, those Optima Mids were really expensive back in the late 80s. They still are if you can find a new in box example on ebay.
MrDave
02-13-2004, 09:58 PM
Thats the original body.
I've looked to find a replacement shell and never found anything that would fit. So I kept this and fixed it by patching whenever needed with plastic from retail packaging and superglue.
One thing, however, the Shell, also came with a bottom cover which acted as a dust shell and helpped with containing the batteries if your primary method of securing them failed. But I ditched the undecarriage shell as it was just a hassle to deal with back then.
Theres nothing on there thats not stock, well, except for the electronics. It came with a silly printed circuit board and a huge resister which made a 3 speed mechanicle speed controller. You can see my Tenkin ESC and Reverse relay module.
aramis
02-18-2004, 06:31 PM
Just wanted to share one of my Optima runners with you guys.That is a B3 body.They fit great!Just have to do a little creative trimming.
RichieRich
02-18-2004, 07:13 PM
Not bad. I may have to try that same thing on my Optima. By the way, I have updated pictures in my tamiyaclub showroom. See my profile for the link.
aramis
02-21-2004, 09:25 AM
If you plan to run one,this is the way to go.I am sure I dont have to tell you how hard the correct bodies are to find.I think they are harder to find than the old Tamiya stuff.I cant figure out why that is though.I dont run those wheels,they are just for shelf duty.Later,Jeff
fabolousRC
03-19-2004, 10:19 AM
just run Ultima rear, TR15 front and/or rear only, 2.2 white/yellow front and/or rear wheels and/or any Kyosho 2.0 narrow and wide wheels combination.
Dongskie Pinoy
04-04-2004, 11:42 AM
I still have one of that kit, its all in good shape but I cannot find the body and tires anymore.
Have any ideas which body will fit?
I'll post a pic later.
Woober Goober
05-30-2004, 09:00 PM
Hey guys,
I too, am a lover of the old school Kyosho Optimas. If you guys want to see something really radical, check out my Hot Trick conversion for the Optima I am workin on. I have all the parts, just taking my time on it. I am trying to find some really nice stock red shocks to go with it, as the ones I have are quite beaten. I cant believe some of the awesome stuff that is being offered on Ebay as of recently. I have picked up a couple torque limiting clutches for 25.00 each, nip(check out Oz-RC on ebay- an Aussie seller who will ship worldwide); I did not even know these were available for the Optima. I just got a Thorp diff for 19.00 nip; these prices are cheaper than when they were at retail! Anyways, here is the pic: Still got a long way to go. http://www.tamiyaclub.com/getuserimage.asp?t=n&id=img3729_14052004035649_2.jpg
RichieRich
05-30-2004, 11:49 PM
Nice Optima WG. I have a turbo optima in my showroom as well. I've purchased some stuff from OZ-RC too. He's a good guy. He even helped me find some parts for my Turbo Ultima which I restored a while back.
I have a 1988 Tower Hobbies catalog that lists just about every Optima/Turbo Optima aftermarket part that was available at that time. I've tried to stay with the Kyosho brand parts to keep my restorations more original. Though, I would like to get a junker Ultima and add an A&L trailing arm suspension because they are so unique.
fabolousRC
05-31-2004, 01:26 AM
one word: SICK
fabolousRC
05-31-2004, 01:30 AM
forgot to add something else: I got several items for Turbo Optima that I picked up a couple of years ago which I cannot wait to apply them to my Turbo Optima in Asia and convert the ones I have over here to be one as well...only the body..the only item that's the hardest to find...
Btw...my Asian Turbo Optima got a wierd setup (I think posted this earlier somewhere). It has Optima Mid's steel wire reinforced belt (the white ones) complete with the belt conversion gear on it. At the time the hobby shop did it...all I wanted was my car to be somewhat like Optima mids but the belt was nice enough to have :D
RichieRich
08-02-2004, 12:50 AM
Do you have a picture of the Optima with the white belt conversion? Is it like the Option House belt conversion that most people have but with a white belt?
surquhart
11-19-2004, 05:44 PM
Here's mine
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/217000-217999/217153_46_full.jpg
http://images.cardomain.com/member_images/1/web/217000-217999/217153_45_full.jpg Let me know what you think.
Nice. That's the way I remember it as original. Nice indeed. Would like some more up-close pics tho. They're a bit of a legend now - Min hasn't seen dirt in over 10 years. I must get it back out one of these days...
martise
04-22-2005, 10:18 AM
I live in France, 20 EUR and I offer the shipping cost all over the world !!
sebastienmarti@yahoo.fr
I accept paypal
Hi! I just joined today... the number of posts here are incredible! :eek:
I was looking for a place to post pics of my 'digital' optima, modeled in glorious 3D...
and finally... with the body! :D
wimke1971
11-12-2005, 05:07 PM
hi guys, i bought one too, second hand offcourse!
but i need a new cover.... where can i still buy one??? or wich recent cover fits best???
thanx
wim
hi guys, i bought one too, second hand offcourse!
but i need a new cover.... where can i still buy one??? or wich recent cover fits best???
thanx
wim
just try ebay, there are several ones, but not originals, just copies... but they are often of good quality.
wimke1971
11-13-2005, 08:39 AM
ok, thanx mate!
wim
wimke1971
11-13-2005, 03:18 PM
just looked, can't find anything... :-( :mad: :mad:
just looked, can't find anything... :-( :mad: :mad:
well... be patient!
They're sold out, then... but there are new ones every week, just create a favourite search with 'kyosho optima' as keyword, and the ebay engine will search it for you and tell you eventually when there are for sale...
good luck :)
wimke1971
11-14-2005, 12:25 PM
thanx
but a new one costs 29 euro's (about 36 dollar)...
Galager
11-16-2005, 02:12 PM
Just got back into looking at this stuff. Grew up on RC and I still have my OG Optima sitting in my bedroom next to the TV. I will post pics when I get back to my apt tomorrow. It has a Trinity motor in it (i forget which kind), Tekin electric speed control and original body with a pretty good, but basic red and black paint job on it. I also changed out the wheels, I still have the original ones with unused origianl tires. The chain was removed completely years ago (when a techincal glitch was encountered), so its only RWD right now, but I still have it. The only thing wrong with it is the shocks. Those stupid little plastic collars that hold the springs in place are all cracked. Does anyone have a suggestion to replace them, or all 4 shocks completely?
wimke1971
11-16-2005, 05:30 PM
yeah man, post some pics!!!!
just change the shocks, easy as hell
Galager
11-16-2005, 05:46 PM
yeah man, post some pics!!!!
just change the shocks, easy as hell
Would be if I could find new shocks! Where do I come by those? Team CRP used to make aluminum collars for those shocks. Too bad they went out of business when I was in high school! Does anyone of other shocks that would be compatible? RC-10, Ultima, etc?
Galager
11-17-2005, 07:08 PM
As promised, here are some pics...
Galager
11-17-2005, 07:12 PM
another...
Galager
11-17-2005, 07:13 PM
Trinity motor...
Galager
11-17-2005, 07:16 PM
body off...
asw7576
11-25-2005, 01:05 PM
Ryo : Nice graphics !!! cool pictures :cool: How long to render the picture ? What system ?
edisonh
12-20-2005, 09:29 AM
Hey guys, I still have my Turbo Optima Mid SE and an Ultima in very good condition, bought them at the same time back in '89 and let me tell you, these cars were made to last. I have driven them hard, jumps, some bad crashes however, they have never broken, good rc cars, absolutely. I'll be sending some pictures soon.
marwankw
01-07-2006, 03:30 AM
well... be patient!
They're sold out, then... but there are new ones every week, just create a favourite search with 'kyosho optima' as keyword, and the ebay engine will search it for you and tell you eventually when there are for sale...
good luck :)
Optima and Javelin 100% perfect repro decals are now available in ebay check them out
fabolousRC
01-14-2006, 10:58 PM
Does anyone know where I can still get the old Duratrax Golds?
Galager
01-14-2006, 11:36 PM
Does anyone know where I can still get the old Duratrax Golds?
I don't know. But if you find them, let me know..
Big Gaz1974
01-21-2006, 07:02 PM
What sort of price should i pay for a complete, good conditon MK1 optima ?
cwginkc
01-29-2006, 09:03 PM
NIB Turbo Optima Mid SE on ebay
jahknws
04-21-2006, 03:28 PM
Hello-
Loved the Kyosho Optima as a kid. Just purchased a used Kyosho Turbo Optima which is chain driven. I could use some help guys- If anybody has lying around or runs into the belt drive conversion kit, I would be greatful. I have my eyes peeled on eBay everyday, and I am being patient, but so far- no dice.
Also, I will be using on a lot and off road, is there an ideal motor and gearing setup with these cars to really get some low end pop balanced with some nice top end speed? Posting pictures right quick.
jahknws
04-21-2006, 03:33 PM
Looks like a self queen... I am interested in getting her back on the road-
Also I could use a copy of a manual (electronic or otherwise)..... Bueller? Bueller? drip, drip....
jahknws
04-21-2006, 03:36 PM
Thanks guys (and gals?)
Galager
04-21-2006, 03:41 PM
There is an online manual somewhere. If you find a belt conversion, let me know. I'll take that chain off of you if you want to sell it.
BTW, that's in fantastic shape! What is it missing? Anything?
Galager
04-21-2006, 04:00 PM
Here is the manual for the Optima. I'm sure there are some differences between that and the turbo optima, but the basics are there. Unfortunately its in Japanese, but the pictures are worth a thousand words.
http://www.vintagercweb.com/manuals/kyosho_optima.pdf
OldSkoolRCRacer
04-21-2006, 04:12 PM
If I remember right, we used to upgrade the Optima shocks with RC10 shocks with little modifications
jahknws
04-21-2006, 04:19 PM
The car is in transit to me at the moment, I think it still needs a servo and remote. I will have it this monday. Whatever it needs I figure it is worth putting it into the car, as you can see the thing looks unused. I always took care of my old one (2wd optima) and I still had a ton of scratches and grooves on the swing arms and undercarraige. This 4wd chain driven car wouldn't know what a scratch was... (yet!)
jahknws
04-21-2006, 04:21 PM
I thought the chain systems were junk? or junky? Flexing, heavy, and not as precise as the belt drive. I can understand having a backup chain for an orignal car, thats cool, but are the chain drive systems not as bad as people make them out to be?
Does anyone really prefer the chain driven systems? If so- why?
Galager
04-21-2006, 04:23 PM
I haven't used mine in almost 10 years. I really want to at least get it back to RTR condition. All I need are 4 shocks, or at the very least shock collars and the chain. It is ready to go in RWD only without the chain though.
Galager
04-21-2006, 04:28 PM
The belt is probably faster and lighter, but I'm not racing. Just want to get the car into fully functional condition again. If I were really gonna drive it a lot and beat on it, I'd get one of those new RC18's, they come complete RTR with a radio, battery and charger for $180. Easily upgradeable to over 60 mph with the Mamba motor. They are fast, cheap and parts are readily available. If you run your Optima and break something, replacement parts are gonna be hard to come by.
jahknws
04-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Finally,
Does anyone really know the difference between an Turbo Optima Mid, and a Turbo Optima Mid SE? (I have seen some people state the SE came stock with the installed belt kit, and the Optima Mid did not, but when I looked at manual for the plain Optima Mid it stated on the cover it also had the belt?)
Anybody know what the skinny is between the 2? I love the looks and the line of the Turbo Optima Mid SE!
Galager
04-21-2006, 04:30 PM
Look here. This guy has an amazing collection and is incredibly thorough:
http://www.darrynsretrorc.rtox.com/kyoshomainpage.htm
Woops, looks like he never got his hands on the SE's. Must be upgraded shocks, ball bearings, motor, etc. The mids were all belt drive I believe.
jahknws
04-21-2006, 04:41 PM
Wanted: Kyosho Turbo Optima Mid SE in exchange for trade.
I live in N.H. on the N.H. /Mass line. I would be willing to trade professional tech work on your real automobile (brakes, inspections, tires, electrical work, body work, alignment, you name it etc.) from my dads car shop located in Derry, N.H 03038. He has been in business for 35 years and is no hack. Professional shop, 4 techs, 6 lifts, alignment pit in a million dollar facility etc. (work done by the certified mechanics at the shop, not by me).
For the work, I want in trade a Kyosho Turbo Optima Mid SE that is fairly complete or complete and mint condition preferably. No junk. I know this may be a long shot, but the fair amount of work you get on your vehicle would depend and can be negotiated obviously based upon the quality and condition of your Kyosho.
Also, the deal would include parts and work done at dealer or my cost, and wouldn't be over inflated "retail" cost..... I am offering the sweet resources I have to get what I need... my RC fix. Please contact me offlist if interested in further discussion.
marwankw
04-21-2006, 05:03 PM
There is an online manual somewhere. If you find a belt conversion, let me know. I'll take that chain off of you if you want to sell it.
BTW, that's in fantastic shape! What is it missing? Anything?
its here http://www.retromodelisme.com/manuels_pages/84/turbo-optima-and-salute-kyosho.html?PHPSESSID=878769485fed58d0ec11086b7bb0 a6e6
jahknws
04-21-2006, 06:17 PM
Sweet... glad to see I am not the only one with this vintage RC car "problem"....
I appreciate all your guys help, time, and insight!
Marwankw- Thanks for the link, I just want to double check one thing- when you state the manual for the salute and turbo optima are the same except the body, do you think the specific part #'s match up for the most part as well? The physically properties of the cars and appearance do seem to match up spot-on, but I just want to hear it from the horses mouth in regards to part #'s etc matching up apples to apples as well.... Thanks again-
Adam
marwankw
04-22-2006, 09:10 AM
Hi,
Turbo Optima and Salute are one car with different bodies and of course different decal sheets :) Turbo Optima came with the 240S motor but the Salute didn't come with motor.
All part numbers are matching.
fabolousRC
04-22-2006, 10:31 PM
Hi,
Turbo Optima and Salute are one car with different bodies and of course different decal sheets :) Turbo Optima came with the 240S motor but the Salute didn't come with motor.
All part numbers are matching.
FYI, Later model Salute comes with 240S as well.
marwankw
04-23-2006, 12:19 AM
you mean the Blue Salute?
pleaseletmeon34
04-23-2006, 01:39 AM
Finally,
Does anyone really know the difference between an Turbo Optima Mid, and a Turbo Optima Mid SE? (I have seen some people state the SE came stock with the installed belt kit, and the Optima Mid did not, but when I looked at manual for the plain Optima Mid it stated on the cover it also had the belt?)
Anybody know what the skinny is between the 2? I love the looks and the line of the Turbo Optima Mid SE!
The Optima Mid (not turbo) was belt drive, or did you just leave turbo out? I still have a bunch of new parts for the Optima Mid.
RichieRich
04-24-2006, 04:19 PM
Finally,
Does anyone really know the difference between an Turbo Optima Mid, and a Turbo Optima Mid SE? (I have seen some people state the SE came stock with the installed belt kit, and the Optima Mid did not, but when I looked at manual for the plain Optima Mid it stated on the cover it also had the belt?)
Anybody know what the skinny is between the 2? I love the looks and the line of the Turbo Optima Mid SE!
The Turbo Optima Mid is the hopped-up version of the Optima Mid. They both had a belt drive system. The Turbo came with better shocks, bearings, different motor, wheels and shock towers. That is if I remember correctly. :)
kyoshoteam
04-26-2006, 05:14 PM
The Turbo Optima Mid is the hopped-up version of the Optima Mid. They both had a belt drive system. The Turbo came with better shocks, bearings, different motor, wheels and shock towers. That is if I remember correctly. :)
no, the shocks are the same (= gold shocks) and the TOM didn't came with a motor in the kit. The chassis of the TOM was also anodized (light brownish) and also slighthly lighter, I think + fraised for countersunk screws (? not sure anymore, I have not my catalogs on hand)
They also differs in the turnbuckles and presence, in the TOM, of anti-roll bars (FR/RR), About the bearings, I'm not sure the Optima Mid came with less bearings than the TOM. :D
RichieRich
04-27-2006, 12:33 AM
Ok, I had to check. :) This info is directly from the 1989 Tower Hobbies catalog. The Turbo Optima Mid SE has all the same parts as the Optima Mid except for the following: ball differentials, universal swing shafts, platinum shocks, front and rear stabilizer bars, full bearings, carbon fiber shock towers, chrome plated wheels and a thicker aluminum chassis. Both models came with a Le Mans 240ST motor.
jahknws
04-27-2006, 12:38 PM
I used to run these cars as a kid, and I am getting this one back on the road, so I am need a quick refresher.
I have a turbo optima, the one in the pictures maybe 10 posts ago.
The motor is not a stock 240, it was replaced by a tamiya rx-540-sd technipower Mabuchi motor (gold in color, not a scratch on it).
I just purchased yesterday a New Futuba Magnum 2PL Transmitter W/Reciever & 2 Servos.
Since my car comes with a speed control board, do I need an esc?
I will attach a photo of the speed control board in a spit second.
jahknws
04-27-2006, 01:23 PM
This is the control board I was refering to.... Is it good to use? Do I need an ESC to control my tamiya rx-540-sd technipower Mabuchi motor?
Thanks guys-
jahknws
04-27-2006, 01:26 PM
One last question to help me get the Turbo Optima up and running....
-The stock battery system from Kyosho on this car is an 8.4v system.... I don't really see alot of cars with 8.4v systems. Most are a 7.2v. My motor spec states it can be used on 7.2v - 8.4v power.
Since I am buying new battery packs, charger etc.... I get to start fresh and I want to make the best choice. Did the 8.4v concept fissle out because of problems?
What do you guys run and recommend? 7.2v setup or an 8.4v setup? pros and cons of each?
Galager
04-27-2006, 01:32 PM
I highly recommend an ESC for any car. The mechanical ones are not good and subject to wear and tear. Plus you will get more runtime out of your battery, braking (depending on the ESC) and one less thing to maintain. But you can use your mechanical one and a 2nd servo, it will work.
jahknws
04-27-2006, 02:17 PM
from www.teamnovak.com
"Q: How do I select a motor for my reversible ESC?
A: It is best to use motors that have 0 timing. Motors that have timing will not operate properly when run in reverse. They will get hot and draw excessive amounts of current that will damage the ESC and the motor. If you have to use a motor that has timing, use reverse sparingly: no more than a few seconds, and only to back away from obstacles or to get unstuck. Excessive use of reverse with timed motors will damage the ESC. "
Does my tamiya rx-540-sd technipower Mabuchi motor have zero timing? I am looking to be able to steer and go in forward and reverse etc. so I can spin out and not worry about switching between forward and reverse. or am I barking up the wrong tree? The motor is obviously around a 1990 release, but it hasn't been used.
Do I get an older esc, or can I go high frequency etc...
RichieRich
04-27-2006, 02:32 PM
jahknws - Yes, I would use an ESC for your buggy. The MSC you show in your posts is a really old style Kyosho one. Those will burn up or tear (believe it or not) pretty quickly. I would stick to running 7.2v packs. 8.4v will make your car pretty fast, but run time will be less. Today's motors are much faster and efficeint then the ones from back in the day.
kencocat
05-01-2006, 07:51 AM
Hi, I was wondering if anyone here knew if the Optima Mid Custom body would fit the Optima Mid SE/Turbo chassis with a bit of creative trimming. I've been looking on ebay for months with no success for a Mid body.
marwankw
05-01-2006, 09:15 AM
Yes it wil fit with slight adjustement, since optima mid custom body is little longer, if you need decals see ebay item# 6053826917
jahknws
05-08-2006, 11:41 AM
I haven't used mine in almost 10 years. I really want to at least get it back to RTR condition. All I need are 4 shocks, or at the very least shock collars and the chain. It is ready to go in RWD only without the chain though.
Just wanted to let you know there is a chain up on ebay this morning.
Do a search for optima chain or kyosho chain, should pop right up- from G.B.
fabolousRC
05-09-2006, 02:09 AM
from www.teamnovak.com
"Q: How do I select a motor for my reversible ESC?
A: It is best to use motors that have 0 timing. Motors that have timing will not operate properly when run in reverse. They will get hot and draw excessive amounts of current that will damage the ESC and the motor. If you have to use a motor that has timing, use reverse sparingly: no more than a few seconds, and only to back away from obstacles or to get unstuck. Excessive use of reverse with timed motors will damage the ESC. "
Does my tamiya rx-540-sd technipower Mabuchi motor have zero timing? I am looking to be able to steer and go in forward and reverse etc. so I can spin out and not worry about switching between forward and reverse. or am I barking up the wrong tree? The motor is obviously around a 1990 release, but it hasn't been used.
Do I get an older esc, or can I go high frequency etc...
Ok this is old but your technipower DOES have zero timing IF it is positioned right in the middle of the timing chart or as it comes STOCK. Keep in mind that the Technipower is equipped with bushings instead of bearings like it's more powerful cousin: the Technigold. ehhh...now that you mentioned that the motor was actually gold on earlier posting so that is what you have, the Technigold not the Technipower. Technipower and it's sibling Technituned are both silver not gold. The main difference is that the Technipower has gold label/silver can and Technituned has Silver label/Silver can
http://blog.yam.com/tamiyaclub/e1aced37.jpg
Technigold on Toyota Celica Gr.B
coreyfro
05-28-2006, 06:00 PM
Damn! I forgot how great those cars looked! Talk about a scale car!
Hey, what's the body made out of? Is it just lexan or is it hard plastic?
This is my Javelin runner.It handles and jumps great.I leave the chain drive in all of my cars.I love the sound they make.Very old school.As long as you use FM you are fine.Later,Jeff
coreyfro
05-28-2006, 09:12 PM
Not bad! Now do the javelin body and post a 1600x1200 png for me!
and finally... with the body! :D
Husker1
06-16-2006, 01:28 AM
Wow, what a great trip down memory lane. Still trying to get my Turbo Optima up and running.
andrew-kyosho
07-09-2006, 12:37 PM
hello i just took out my optima from under the house, it works fine i am just wondering is there anything i can do to make it faster. Besides changing the gear ratios. I have also been reading the other posts and have realized how rare these are. My car has 4 new tyres they are bridgestone sand super. i also have the original box and shell on the car. just wondering what would it be worth thanks heaps.
coastman49
07-17-2006, 10:24 AM
Hey, where can I find a body for the Optima. Mine is about 14 years old. Just dug it out a couple of weeks ago. It works great. Just need a body. Any suggestions?
marwankw
07-17-2006, 11:32 AM
See ebay Item # 200007371186 for Optima Body and ebay item # 170005954478 for decals
coastman49
07-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Thanks for the tip MARWANKW!
Feral_Goz
07-26-2006, 07:37 AM
I was lucky enough to be given a Javelin today. It looks to be in pretty good condition....except 2 of the red clamps on top of the shocks are broken.
I found some complete shocks on ebay, but before I hand over my cash for them I thought I'd check in here for feedback on any other options available.
Thanks in advance
Feral_Goz
bateman
08-08-2006, 05:13 AM
Greetings,
I am looking for an instruction manual for the Kyosho Turbo Optima Mid SE. If anyone has a copy that they are willing to photocopy for me (at a price) or know where I can obtain one, please don't hesitate to let me know.
I have the manual for the Turbo Optima Mid but there are some things that are not in the manual that I need for the SE (instructions for ball diff and platinum shocks to name 2).
Thankyou and take care.
Vin
RivBlueNoma
02-11-2007, 12:40 AM
Old thread resurrected. :wave:
Just won an auction for a pretty decent/complete looking Turbo Optima.
Im not sure if the car includes a the motor plate. Will I need the motor plate to install a regular modern 27 turn motor in it? By motor plate Im talking about this (http://www.retromodelisme.com/scan_pages/6074/turbo-optima-and-salute-kyosho-page-2.html?PHPSESSID=878769485fed58d0ec11086b7bb0a6e6)
The car will be a runner, but only once in a while. By no means a basher.
Was there ever a production Optima that had all blue chassis plates, or was the one I saw painted? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250079954597&rd=1&rd=1
BTW that blue chassis car is not mine.
StevePond
02-11-2007, 02:03 AM
I don't recall there being a production chassis of that color (only gold as far as I can remember).
sim600
02-13-2007, 01:50 AM
Mine was just plain natural aluminium. Never saw a blue one until you posted that link. Also, those green springs don't look like Kyosho. I think they had gold, black and one other colour (I'm thinking silver, but not sure) as option springs.
RivBlueNoma
02-13-2007, 07:25 AM
I didnt think the blue was probably an original chassis color. Was the final bid of $60 a good deal? I dont remember alot about these cars. But I can tell that the drive chain and covers are missing, the radio tray is broken, and it looks like the rear shock tower is bent, the nose plate looks a little tweaked, and of course the body is missing.
rheld98
02-14-2007, 09:51 AM
The blue is just paint; a little paint thinner will take it right off.
I'm the one who won the auction, and I probably paid about $20 too much. Oh well, I need the suspension parts and front gearbox housing for an Optima I'm restoring.
I've had a Turbo Optima since 1987, with a belt drive conversion. It's still my favorite car.
RivBlueNoma
02-14-2007, 08:25 PM
I was watching that blue one, would have bid on it but I went for a different one. I wondered if it was paint or anodized.
Is $103 a descent price for what Ive got here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=170077725165&rd=1&rd=1) ? Looks like its pretty complete, but I think its got Optima Mid wheels on it, so Ill have to locate some Turbo Optima's for it. Im pretty excited about getting it, Ive wanted an Optima for about 20 years. :D
rheld98
02-14-2007, 08:39 PM
I think that's a good price, especially since it has some spares, a body and a gold motor guard. If you want to have a new body, Kamtec in the UK makes very nice reproductions: http://www.kamtec.co.uk/. Old stock original bodies tend to get very expensive.
This website in France has the manual to download: http://www.retromodelisme.com/manuels_pages/139/turbo-optima-kyosho.html
They have a wealth of Kyosho documentation there. The site is in French, but many of the manuals are in English and other languages.
Good luck!
RivBlueNoma
02-15-2007, 10:56 PM
Thanks for the links. I have been looking at the french site for a while now.
That repro body is actually an Optima Pro body. There are some definite differences. I saw some one selling repro optima or turbo optima bodies on ebay, i think the BIN price is $20 and freight is another $20.
Im still not sure what wheels my optima has on it, I may need to locate the correct optima/turbo optima wheels for it. Let me know if you decide to part with the set from your new parts car. :wave:
rheld98
02-16-2007, 10:38 AM
Kamtec also sells Optima and Turbo Optima bodies; they just show the Optima Pro on their Kyosho page. There's a drop down link at the top of the page for the others.
I received the "blue" car yesterday and I'm not sure what I want to do with the wheels, but I'll keep your offer in mind. Aside from the blue paint, missing parts and some bent aluminum, it's the car isn't in too bad shape. All the parts I need are in excellent condition.
RichieRich
02-16-2007, 12:36 PM
Those Optimas are famous for bent aluminum. :) I had to replace the whole chassis on my Turbo Optima. That front end was the most smashed along with really bent shock towers. They looked like the old Tacoma Narrows bridge.
rheld98
02-16-2007, 07:49 PM
Yeah, they can get pretty bent up; if you hit stuff hard enough. :D
Before my Turbo Optima got to that condition, I replaced almost all the aluminum with custom made composite parts. They also helped to lighten it up several ounces.
RivBlueNoma
02-17-2007, 11:44 AM
Well my Turbo Optima arrived today. Like everything, it looks better in pictures than up close.
The Bad:
Plastic front support is broken
front end is tweaked hard
Gold motor guard is dented and badly scratched up
Shock towers need a little straightening
Optima Mid wheels
Some of the spare parts, arent really spares they need to be reinstalled, like the chain and front dogbones.
The Good:
Appears complete
Vintage electronics included, lemans 240 red motor, futaba fp-s28 servo, and a futaba mc11b esc.
Wont know if that stuff works until I figure out how to adapt their male connectors up to my modern receiver.
I cant find the part number for the plastic front support, anyone know what it is?
Has anyone got a good method for staightening aluminum without marring the surface?
Budman_222
02-18-2007, 03:42 PM
http://www.retromodelisme.com/manuels_pages/139/turbo-optima-kyosho.html?PHPSESSID=4246e26a2f2d7d188d0bb17e2f98 b535
The key # is 21. Front support. Looks like it is part of part group 49. A lot of the parts came on a parts tree or group with extra stuff besides what you wanted. I have the manual around here someplace but I can't find it. The link is to an online manual.
rheld98
02-19-2007, 08:19 AM
Straightening Aluminum: I usually just use a pair of pliers with a piece of cloth in the jaws. A locking sheet metal tool works wonders on a long, straight bend.
Optima aluminum pieces are quite easy to bend. They don't have the temper that, for example, the RC10 aluminum chassis has.
Hello
For the Optimaniacs out there I've created a blog.
http://www.theoptimahouse.blogspot.com/
See you soon :D
Ryo
sim600
09-05-2007, 03:08 PM
Hi,
I'm restoring my old Turbo Optima back to racing condition but I find the steering rack/servo saver really soft and weak. I think the spring might have lost its tension after twenty years. What can I do to fix this? Any idea?
that's normal.
we used to fix that by using a servo saver on the servo itself, and gluing the optima servo saver so it doesn't work. :rolleyes:
ryo
sim600
09-06-2007, 09:43 PM
Heh. Okay. Thanks. I have to decide if this will be a shelf queen or a runner then.
Time to resurrect the ole thread because I really need to find some parts. :)
I believe I have come across a Salute?:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC002.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC002.jpg)http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC005.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC005.jpg)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC006.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC006.jpg)http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC009.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC009.jpg)
Got this from a friend of mine along with an original RC10 (http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=250387).
Aside from a missing kingpin and body, the salute is completely stock...and it works...aside from the kingpin. Oh, and it has a belt instead of a chain.
Only reason I think it's a salute is because of the funky speed controller and the resistors in their little cage thingey hangin out above the motor(which get rather hot).
Seems kinda slow, so I am pretty sure I'll need to rebuild it and I expect to need more than just a kingpin.
Where do you get parts for old stuff like this?
fabolousRC
08-26-2008, 04:13 AM
Time to resurrect the ole thread because I really need to find some parts. :)
I believe I have come across a Salute?:
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC002.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC002.jpg)http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC005.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC005.jpg)
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC006.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC006.jpg)http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/th_VintageRC009.jpg (http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j184/afigallo/VintageRC/VintageRC009.jpg)
Got this from a friend of mine along with an original RC10 (http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=250387).
Aside from a missing kingpin and body, the salute is completely stock...and it works...aside from the kingpin. Oh, and it has a belt instead of a chain.
Only reason I think it's a salute is because of the funky speed controller and the resistors in their little cage thingey hangin out above the motor(which get rather hot).
Seems kinda slow, so I am pretty sure I'll need to rebuild it and I expect to need more than just a kingpin.
Where do you get parts for old stuff like this?
Jelo, where in Northern California are you? I just got a hold of a Turbo Optima manual which have all the necessary parts number to rebuild your car. I also have some Optima parts that I acquired in the past (current owner of 2.5 Turbo Optimas *the .5 is a Korean clone*, an Optima Mid and an Optima Pro). I will see of what I have and see what you need then I'll price it for you.
Armand