Rally car/modified rally car forum

[Soya v1.1]

ya, I used 3mm 6061.

[SaturnRS4]

For anyone who is wanting to build a Tamiya M-Chassis rally car, please go here: http://www.tam.ne.jp/nic/minirally/rally_e.html
It has many helpful tips, and even tells you how to make your own Mini-size rally tires.

[SaturnRS4]

http://www.tam.ne.jp/nic/minirally/minirally11.jpg
http://www.tam.ne.jp/nic/minirally/a11018.jpg

[DIrTjUNkie]

sweet pics! I was thinking about doin this a while back, but thru it on the back burner,,,,,:D

Ray

[minijosh]

I have a story about my TL01. I bought it from a friend and it was a TL01B which is the Baja Champ off road 4 wheel drive buggy. I could not find a off road track so I converted it into a touring car. I just bought a HPI Sprint kit so the TL01 is going back to the dirt and I love to watch the WRC so guess where the TL01's home is now hehe. Does anyone here do good bodies or make motors that tear up everything? My speed control is able to handle motors down to 15 turns. I have a Rush 15 turn but don't know if I should use in on dirt. I want a rally body nobody else has. The Citron is looking good right now. I am in the UK but don't worry, I still have my US hook-ups. I watch the real WRC overhere. No Subaru's or Lancers please. I love those cars but so does everybody else.

[Soya v1.1]

How about a rally Firebird?

[minijosh]

a firebird isn't a official wrc car now is it? i would like to see a viper try to take some of those jumps though.

[TVRTuscan]

Try and nab an ABC Hobby Lancia Stratos. http://www.abchobby.com/

Jet Hobby carries some ABC bodies. http://www.jethobby.com/

http://www.abchobby.com/wwwnew2/CAR/JAPAN/01BODY/POTO/66070.jpg

[momosport]

All I can say about the Lancia is Mmmmmmmmm So SWEET!
I want to get one for my rally. Trouble is the cost, none the less its a sweet body.

I have the Citron and I like it. I think its a good combo of a sedan and hatch. Both body styles ( Sedan and Hatch ) have different handling characteristics. If you plan to play, it won't matter. if you race, there might be something more to evaluate when choosing a shell.


Momo

[holshotracer]

momo
how wide is your citron? i want one but i need a 200mm. i like subaru but so many people have them.

[holshotracer]

also right now i rally a S2000 body. the front is showing it because it folds under the car forming more of a skid plate.

[Aluma]

how do you setup a box stock tb01 to be a good rally racer? camber, tires, toe-in? anything else like oil wt., springs, ride height?

[Jimmy33]

I have the Citron and I like it. I think its a good combo of a sedan and hatch. Both body styles ( Sedan and Hatch ) have different handling characteristics. If you plan to play, it won't matter. if you race, there might be something more to evaluate when choosing a shell.

Which Citroen? who is it made by?

[minijosh]

here is a store that has some really good bodies for rallying. they are close to me if you cannot find any place in the states that carry these bodies.
http://www.model-junction.co.uk/
It costs pounds and not dollars so you are paying more but what choice do you have if you want a real WRC Tamiya legal car. They have Skoda, Seat, Peugeot 206, Lancer 6, Toyota Corolla, Ford Focus and escort, and Citroen.

[Janders]

1 pound is 1.51 US dollars. US Rally fans- WRC is on speedTV right now.

I'm also interested in Aluma's question about initial TB-01 setup. I know how to correct over-understeer through suspension stiffness, but with most of the engine weight in the rear it still likes to understeer, how would you fix this with toe in-out?(Common sense says toe in reduces understeer-is this right?)
thanks

[Soya v1.1]

My experience has been that rear toe out increases oversteer.

[kartrun]

WOW!!!:eek: I started this thread almost a year ago and i can't believe how much its grown!! I need to check the boards more often!! I'm trying to start a new racing series guys that is much like the pikes peak hill climb. It will feature all popular classes including unlimited modified and spec. Website is under construction but it can be found at www.nasphc.s5.com
Be sure to check it out often and tell me what you think. I'm open to suggestions so fire away! This is great,keep posting!

[Aluma]

I havent run my rally yet, but i did do that "flip the rear shock tower" thing... WOW,... what a difference in ride height!!
its like 2 inches of ground clearance out back... the front still about 1 inch...im guessing cuz of the steering links that it wont let it droop more than that. maybe if we add spacers the hub link and flip the ball end to the under side of the steering arm.... hmmm...

[Janders]

meant for buggies and Trucks. I snapped my body mounts and cracked my body, but I was amazed at the punishment this thing can take! I'd launch it 4 feet in the air and it would come down on its nose or back, and just cartwheel a few times and keep on driving. It was really a lot of fun, allthough the oversteer is hard to control on a dirt course(I'm a horrible driver). I just put on some Team Associated softer springs(green) on the front with spacers and the stock rear with spacers, I'll try it out tommorow.

[holshotracer]

one thing that u hear that breaks on rallies are the bodys. thats a good thing because it shows that we don't hold back from going big:D

[Janders]

dirt.. that is. There was a hard surface with a light film of talcum powder on top at a construction site by my house. Lots of smooth big jumps(*notice the missing spoiler). Too bad I didn't have a camera man for the action shots
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/PANA0036.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/PANA0037.JPG

[minijosh]

what kind of car is this? i know it is a subaru but what is hidden underneath the powder?

[Janders]

TB-01 rally(only about three weeks old)
15X2 Havok motor
Duratraxx ESC
ballbearings
a few semi-custom things

[minijosh]

TL01 really old hehe
ball bearings everywhere
15x2 rush
some hopups
mtronic esc(fully water proof)
almost done just needs a body. maybe citroen or seat rally cars

[Aluma]

hey...which Mtronics ESC you got in there? I have the M3 cubic one and cant figure out how to set it up... its working but i dont think to full punch. I followed instructions, but it goes so fast I dont know if i did it right or not. :P

anyone wanna buy it?

[minijosh]

that is a high dollar esc. mine is only the sport 15. only 1 button and that is it. how much you looking for to get for it? i have a friend looking. that one is water proof too right?

[holshotracer]

its a ghost subaru:)
its fun when u get rain on top of snow, let just say super long drifts:D . also ripped some of my S2000 body off. need a true rally bod.

[Soya v1.1]

I found out what happens when I get really bored and jump my rally car over my techdeck ramps. Break belts

[Janders]

half woodscrews , JB Weld and superglue. I managed to break my body mounts/shock towers and a few wheels. I just had a wheel fly off at top speed and the car took a nasty flip nose on over a curb and into a mailbox pole. I have the widened stance and I like it, I have the RS-4 longer rally shocks I'm going to try to custom mount them on my Tamiya, once all the body glue and shock mounts dry.

[Soya v1.1]

A few minutes later:

[talon51]

damn, two belts in one day!! Do you have a slipper? My car is over a year old, and its still has the original front belt, and I just recently wore out my first rear belt and ripped it apart...not a bad lifespan. Now all I need is a new chassis.

Later
Talon

[Soya v1.1]

Ya, that's the original front belt. I got the car, oh, about 4 years ago. The rear belt's been replaced before.

[talon51]

Holy Crap!! 4 years on a belt!!

[Soya v1.1]

Heh, I modified the belt tensioner for more travel:p

[fabolousRC]

Originally posted by Janders
1 pound is 1.51 US dollars. US Rally fans- WRC is on speedTV right now.

I'm also interested in Aluma's question about initial TB-01 setup. I know how to correct over-understeer through suspension stiffness, but with most of the engine weight in the rear it still likes to understeer, how would you fix this with toe in-out?(Common sense says toe in reduces understeer-is this right?)
thanks

You can flip the shock mounts like everyone said or go for longer shocks (buggy short shocks). If you have a friend who does magic with CF tell him to build you a custom shock mounts for the front and back or you can try to purchase them from Penguin R/C. Also, purchase the TB01 optional adjustable turnbuckles steering rods (they work like magic) and perhaps the LA system may add more travel (and less toe adjustment) to the car. I ran my first TB01 (I sold my second to Aluma) with stock setup and the rear end pretty much swings out by itself. The stock springs are so soft that it pretty much moves away from being understeers. If I was on full power doing circles I ended up doing donuts and I was doing that with the Johnsons too. The stock pinion and spur gear (16/61) is enough for sprint rally and just enough top speed for you to run on loose gravel. If you want a better grip tires, switch to those HPI (authentic) Pirellis or Kyosho Alpha rally tires (but you need 2.0mm wheels for it).

Have fun!

[holshotracer]

Hey Soya
hey did u rally handle with the celica body? u must of been bored because those jumps have a lot of lip. i was doing berm shots off of a monster snow bank.

[Soya v1.1]

Did it handle? I'm not sure what you mean.

[Janders]

fabulousRC-
I already had the rear tower flipped, I have HPI wheels and tires allready, and Team associated springs. I had to run the 19/58 gears to deal with heat from the 15turn. I have HPI RS4 rally shocks, but they aren't mounted, also my aluminum steering rack is on order. I know what you mean about the nasty understeer, even with super soft 'green' front springs, the car still likes to lose the rear end, allthough it's a little more controllable. My front shock mount is broken, I may have to check out penguin.
-thanks

[holshotracer]

Soya i was wondering if it gave the car more steering. i was thinking of painting one like the full size castrol rally.

[Soya v1.1]

I can't tell if it has more steering by way of the body. It looks cool, and that's all I care about:D

[Janders]

I'm debating changing my final ratio on my Rally car. I run a 15X2 with a 7.94 final ratio(stock was 9.91)
What do you guys run?

[tc3punk]

lol I guess I'll post a few pics of my rally tc3...

includes :
200mm onroad chassis conversion kit
hardcore racing titanium shock towers
rear spool
NTC3 steering mod
SNR tires
Peugeot 206 body
eh someother stuff that I'm forgetting right now:rolleyes:

please don't comment on the picture quality :mad: it's a stupid Yahoo! digi cam

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL98/739766/1283314/19862737.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL98/739766/1283314/19862727.jpg

ran in the snow / slush, so I wraped er' up in seran wrap:D

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL98/739766/1283314/19966836.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL98/739766/1283314/19966831.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL98/739766/1283314/19966826.jpg

http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL98/739766/1283314/19966824.jpg

sadly, after these pics were taken, I jumped it about 30 feet out, and 5 feet up, and it stripped the shock tower mounting holes on the rear diff case:(

but it'll be back soon enough

running with a Reedy Fury 12t mod, LRP IPC Sport esc, and some 3000's

soon gonna have a 1930'5 brushless motor (aka : diff-welder:eek: )

[holshotracer]

tc3punk
the all black look ic sic:D
with a brushless i bet that u have the rear spool.

[holshotracer]

yesterday i was having fun because our drive way was mud and water and i didn't have school so i spend all day getting my rally muddy and the carpet in my room too:D

[Janders]

Well this is a repost from the Tb01 rally forum.
first the movie:
TB-01-mp4 (http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/josh.mp4)

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/air.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/susptravel.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/turn.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/downhill.jpeg

I love how indestructable this thing is! I just ran it today to test out the penguinrc CF mounts out and they get 3 thumbs up!

[tc3punk]

lmao, that was funny watching it run over some rocks that were bigger than it's wheels :p

ya, it is pretty durable...

quick question, anyone ever break a TC3-R A-arm?

I got my Rally arms, and ran it outside, and hit a solid object going maybe 20mph, and it snaped the arm....

but it hit on the bumper, so I'm not really sure how it transfered the power to the arms that much:(

[fabolousRC]

Originally posted by Janders
Well this is a repost from the Tb01 rally forum.
first the movie:
TB-01-mp4 (http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/josh.mp4)

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/air.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/susptravel.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/turn.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/downhill.jpeg

I love how indestructable this thing is! I just ran it today to test out the penguinrc CF mounts out and they get 3 thumbs up!

Dude...you might as well make movie about Paris Dakar Rally with your car...I followed this year's Rally and the rocks are as big in scale as the one on your video :D

[Upstate Bob]

What do I need to watch that video? None of my players will open it, and I have just about all of the codecs installed you can imagine.

Please don't say the Nimo pack.

[Janders]

I love the Paris-Dakar rally! Just seeing those galloises with incredible suspension travel, and the full size trucks(Tatras?) are just ridiculous, I can't believe they actually race those.

Upstate Bob-
Do you have a Mac or a PC? it's an mp4 file. A quicktime player should do it(version 6 or above) Also IE 5 or above should play it. Try saving it to disk and then opening it(it's only a 3 meg file), or change it's name from .mp4 to .mpg.
lemme know if that works.

[SteveK]

Yeah, those Schlesser buggies (Run by Jean-Luis Schlesser, some French guy) was pretty wild. They were the first 2WDs to ever win, bucking the trend of heavier 4WDs by running essentially a fiberglass-bodied baja buggy. When they hold together they are fast. He would have won in 2001 if he hadn't been such a bastard, jumping the starting line-up, having his teammate block his main rival, and running off-course, racking up enough time penalties to cost him the win. Now VW, even Honda are running 2WD buggies.

Those big Tatra's and Kamaz and other big rigs are wild. They offset their expenses by selling storage space to smaller teams, carrying spare parts for them. One guy built a 1200hp truck about 13 years ago, and it was FAST: There is a great shot of him blowing buy a Peugeot 406 at about 120mph, and later of the truck in pieces over several hundred yards when he flipped and destroyed it. They are mostly Russian and European-made trucks, which is why we wouldn't know them.

On the rally-car side, Peugeot and Porsche won several events in the 1980's in Group B-style cars, and recently there was a SEAT Cordoba-based diesel car, but I don't think it's run in the last few years.

[Janders]

I'm such a speed addict now. I love watching anything onroad other than oval's. The things people race these days, like those Semi cabs they race on tarmac, lawnmowers, tractors....

I'm still very much more into WRC and cross country races however.

BTW, It finally dropped below freezing in Texas today, yesterday it was 71 * F! So I took advantage of the sleet/snow hail and made another movie...anything to avoid doing real work..
**
A little drifting for fun
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/icerally.mp4

**

[holshotracer]

i seen on the new how bad texas was getting nailed.
i had to take out the ball diff out of my pen ten alpha because water got into it and it was causing weird handling.

[talon51]

Those are some sweet vids, I love the editing you put into them. I wish I could do that...give us more!!!!

Later
Talon

[Upstate Bob]

Hey I got the videos to play. Very cool stuff, I like the ice drifting a lot.

If anyone else has windows, but not a new version of the Quicktime player, I found this free software that lets you play .mp4 files in Windows Media Player >Link< (http://www.mpegable.com/showPage.php?SITE=mpegable&PAGE=download)

[holshotracer]

i really need to get some new tires. i was running in the mud and the car would stop because of the suckion and the tires would spin. i may have to fit tires off of my hi-lux so i can run in the mud.

[Upstate Bob]

After a few days of having the video codec from my post above installed on my computer I've noticed some odd .avi handling issues, so I've removed the codec. Thought I'd let you all know it's got some bugs.

[aa240sx]

Just a quick question. I've got a TC3 and purchased the rally upgrade kit, but don't want to use the kit tires and rims. What can I use?

Can I purchase rally tires and inserts, made for 24 & 26mm wheels?

Or, do I have to buy specific rally rims and tires? If so, what size are they?

Lastly, those with the TC3 rally conversion? What aftermarket shocks can be used on this? Specifically, what shocks would provide that most give for those punishing jumps I'm about to inflict on this ride?


Thanks!

[Soya v1.1]

The wheels don't matter, but you should get either Tamiya rally tires or Pro line's new tires. The HPI's don't last very long.

[Janders]

Gravel, or big rocks:
HPI is about the same as Tamiya, but the HPI's(M compound) do wear a lot quicker
Packed Dirt:
HPI>Tamiya
Ice
Tamiya's were very predictable(didn't run HPI's).

If the HPI's came in a harder compound I'd prefer them, allthough gravel on asphalt just tears quite a few of the small nubs off on the first runs.
I really want to see how they compare on mud.

[Upstate Bob]

I bet those Pirellis are a great all terrain tire. I'll probably pick a set up next payday. I'm really interested in finding a tire that won't all out suck in the dirt/gravel and won't fall apart on asphalt. Since the Pirellis don't have knobs, I bet they're perfect.

[Jimmy33]

What is the website for the TC3 and where can I get the rally conversion?

[aa240sx]

Try horizonhobby.com or Ultimatehobbies.com or Towerhobbies.com. All of them carry the rally conversion kit for about $57.00. totally worth it!

For information, try rc10.com

[holshotracer]

i thought that the rally kit for the tc3 came with wheels and tires

[aa240sx]

they do actually, but they're 24mm and i wanted 26mm.

[talon51]

Ooops, I unsubscribed myself by mistake...
Anyway, for those of you in the tristate area (PA, NY, NJ), Barnstormers RC is having a big rally ONLY event this saturday (Rally Car Grudge Match v4.0 I think...). Doors open at 5. If ya want more info, go to www.barnstormersrc.com.

Later
Talon

[holshotracer]

i cut my tires again so now i have paddle slicks. they work good in mud but in snow not to well. the chassis starts to high center and the tire spin and dig holes so the car gets stuck.

[talon51]

I use HPI rally tires for the snow. They work great when the snow gets packed a bit. For fresh snow, try cutting some of the pins off so the tires don't dig through the snow as much. You want the car to sit ontop, so the wider the better too.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Later
Talon

[Soya v1.1]

For snow? I might:D

[holshotracer]

i was thinking of getting the ones that look like tractor tires. also the other problem that i keep having is the screw that holds my one turnbuckle likes to out out when running in the mud.

[Janders]

Have you tried loctite? I have to use it on all my wheel nuts when I rally. If the thread on the plastic is completely gone, sometimes you can use superglue to 'rethread' it.

[Janders]

I went out with 2 3000 packs to make some vids today. After my first jump my scoobie broke the EVO wheels(typical mitsush*ty quality.lol:)). I had to use duct tape to keep the wheels attached allthough I had some good 3 wheel action.
The Vids OK, I got the sound track from 'Speed Tribe' for those who know what I'm talking about.

let me know what you think
home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/3wheel.mp4 (http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/3wheel.mp4)

It's 4 megs, mp4

[holshotracer]

i use CA. i think what happens is that the mud cause the screw to sizce up in the turnbuckle causing the screw to back out. i'm going to put in a longer screw and lock nut.

[heavytank2]

Wow, I think I might just go through with this. Its better then going out and buying a new touring car and then putting my RS4 Sport on the shelf.


Problem is the current motor might be a little much for the inner shell to handle the heat. And the loose dirt would just fly everywhere.

Speed Gems 2 Onyx 14x2... think I should go with a 19 turn?

yea....


Well current dilema, I was into the whole racing scene so naturally my car is 190mm. The whole deal, HPI 190mm universals.

Wonder if I can find some 200mm used cheap or something? I'd hate to have to blow $40 or more for universals. On top of the rally tires, body, and inner body.

$120-150 project here... ****...

Not to mention the aluminum chassis I am gonna just go ahead and make ahead of time... to avoid anything I saw on this thread.

Gonna go for a Lancer Evo if anyone was curious.


Any ideas? Comments? Tricks of the trade? I read about 7 pages of this thread before my mind was gonna explode.

[Janders]

I run a 14X2(Team Orion Havok) in my rally car on rough & slow terrain. I have two inner bodies-one in ventillated out the rear of the rear of the car, and one completely sealed for rain or snow. I've run the enclosed one in 70 deg weather and had no problems overheating.

My TB-01 is now 195mm wide and is more stable than it was stock(183mm?).
I'd be careful about exposing your gears/belts to dirt/rocks-It'll also be hell on your motor.
That's why I love the TB-01 for rally-everything is internal.

[heavytank2]

Yea tell me about it, I was driving around normally (touring) and a small rock got in my rear diff enclosure and the torque from the motor broke the pulley shaft in half.

Also, this is hard to understand... I got the parts to convert from 190 to 200mm on a towerhobbies cart... just NORMAL parts, dogbones! You know, the "craptastic" ones.

Besides the turnbuckles and pro-inserts for the tires, everything is stock. And it comes to $200!!!

The kit is $150-160!? I mean I am buying like 1/8th of the kit and it costs more then the kit itself? I just want my poor sport to have a use... :(

[Henry G]

Here's my rally. It's a kyosho pureten alpha. It has an X-speed 600 motor, fricion shocks, and a mechanical speed contoler.

[Henry G]

Well, today I was driving around in the road outside of my house, and my car wasn't going as fast as it usually does. So, I drove it over to me, took off the cover, and I gunned the throttle. The wheels continue to spin after I let off the throttle, but the left rear wheel stopped spinning long before the other one did. I put some WD-40 on it, but it didn't fix it. It has a single belt four wheel drive single speed tranny.
Sorry, I'm not a photographer.

[Henry G]

Well, today I was driving around in the road outside of my house, and my car wasn't going as fast as it usually does. So, I drove it over to me, took off the cover, and I gunned the throttle. The wheels continue to spin after I let off the throttle, but the left rear wheel stopped spinning long before the other one did. I put some WD-40 on it, but it didn't fix it. It has a single belt four wheel drive single speed tranny.
Sorry, I'm not a photographer.

[holshotracer]

do you still have the bushings in the hubs? there may be enough dirt in the bushing causing so much drag. try taking the wheel off and the hex and cross pin, then take out the screw for the camber link so you can push the drive cup out to clean it better and get all the dust out, or if you have bearing they may need cleaning

[tl01_staniland]

hi everyone


i was just wondering.. have any of you guys converted a tl01 to rally?.... if so then could you tell me what kind of parts u have acquired and ............how the hell do u clean the thing when it gets mud inside!!??

[Albertt]

Originally posted by tl01_staniland
hi everyone


i was just wondering.. have any of you guys converted a tl01 to rally?.... if so then could you tell me what kind of parts u have acquired and ............how the hell do u clean the thing when it gets mud inside!!??

I used to own a TL01 and have thought about this a bit. The LSA kit is probably the most important modification for the TL01, whether you run it rally or on road. You'd need to tune the suspension for more travel and possibly modify the suspension parts themselves.

As for keeping debris out of the chassis, which is basically a square section beam, start off by plugging the holes with lexan pieces (cut to the appropriate shapes) and some double sided tape. You can also making walls out of lexan that rise up into the body to keep debris from jumping into the chassis opening on the top. Since the chassis is narrow, this will be hard because the tires will tend to kick up a lot of stuff into the body. Maybe dirt shields can be adhered into the body, sort of like mudguards in real cars.

[holshotracer]

what do you guys use to clean mud off of you rallies? mine is looking like soya's in the one pic:D

[SteveK]

If you convert a TL01, try 1 of 2 things:

1) More complex, but try putting the battery down the middle of the chassis. You have to hack out alot of the insides and fabricate some mounts and stuff, but the 6 cell pack will fit inside the chassis easily.

2) Much easier, get some roughly 2" wide x 6-6.5" long xapprox 1/8" thick aluminum, cut the bottom of the battery opening out, and put the aluminum on the bottom under the battery. Normally it just hangs right out there, really exposed. Even on-road racing a couple of my packs came back with scrapes on the edges. This would really protect the battery from damage.

The first method would work pretty well, and you could just wrap the car with plastic food wrap to keep crud out. As long as the motor isn't too much for the electrics, it shouldn't be a major problem.

[Janders]

holshotracer-
My car gets VERY dirty, and here's how I clean it. I pull the battery and fill up the sink.
1. I spray down the diff boxes/suspensio/axles(everything located outside of the tub) with electrical cleaner.

2.I then submerge the end down to the end of the tub, and turn the wheels to get the dirt out of the cups, along with moving the suspension to work the dirt out of the springs.

3. I spray out the tub and electronics with pressurized air

4. Motor cleaner, or Electrical cleaner into the motor, while turning two wheels, so the motor rotates.

5. Add Com drops to motor, and spray all the suspension/bearings/axles with WD-40.

When the car gets dirt stuck in and it's "crunchy", or the wheels don't spin freely- then you have to pull the wheels off, and possibly clean out the diff.

[Janders]

I'm looking for a body to fit my widened stance. I want a sedan(not a big hatch fan). I have a nice Lancer VI body, and a 98 Impreza(pretty beat up though) Both are 190mm bodies and too narrow.

here are a few from tower.

Any ideas and pics, let me know

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0004p?&I=HPIC7448http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0004p?&I=HPIC7448

[tOrcHed Lh]

http://www.prolineracing.com/protoform/rally/1441/1441.html

[Jimmy33]

hello d'ere, long time to post:D

Been running my TB01 to death ok not htat far but i have given it a hard time and it is covered in mud (as it should be. However I am going to Austria Skiiing and I am taking a car with me. I ahve the choise of either the TB01 Focus to drive in the snow or the Tamiya Stadium Raider based on the TL01 chasis but it now has a suspension lift, but the motor is stilll hung out at the side.

It the TB01 OK off road in the snow, and would it be advisable to get some tyres with spikes on to cope with the snow or would the standard tamiya rally pattens be ok? :D

[Janders]

If it's just a little snow(3 inches on the ground) the TB-01 will be all right. I wouldn't take anything else out in the wet, unless it's sealed.
Also, I'd plug the motor hole in the bottom just to be safe, if that sucks up water= bye bye motor. I'd put some mud-flapper tires on for better traction too.

[Jimmy33]

that is the problem I dont know but would the TB01 be better than the TL01

[Janders]

I'd run the TB-01.
Unless your TL-01 is sealed, then I would run that because of the clearance

[Jimmy33]

yep - looks like the tb01 is comming with me to brave the conditions, and i lilkely to break any of the electronics - I am looking at take spares for everything at the mo, ESC, motor, reciever and serting servo

[tl01_staniland]

so basicly the tl01 is not good enough for rally....
im only thinking about dusty tracks
i will get another car for the muddy kinda tracks...



ash

[Jimmy33]

personally i believe that the tl01 is great for for dry use of rallying, but I am worried about snow and water getting into the sensitive bits.

Ohh i forgot to add I got some spikey tyres for the car as well as the mud tyres! :D

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
I'm looking for a body to fit my widened stance. I want a sedan(not a big hatch fan). I have a nice Lancer VI body, and a 98 Impreza(pretty beat up though) Both are 190mm bodies and too narrow.

here are a few from tower.

Any ideas and pics, let me know

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0004p?&I=HPIC7448http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0004p?&I=HPIC7448

In terms of sedans, I'm liking these (in order to most favored) in 200mm width:
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7472.jpg
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7458.jpg
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7045a4.jpg
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7450.jpg Coupes:
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7326406.jpg
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7428mus.jpg
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/bodies/7447.jpg

THe Pike's Peak Escudo is a cool body as well, but look close, it's a hatchback. :D

Just curious, is this for your TB01?

[Albertt]

Originally posted by tOrcHed Lh
http://www.prolineracing.com/protoform/rally/1441/1441.html

http://www.prolineracing.com/protoform/rally/1441/1441.jpg
Looks more like a poor attempt at a B4 Blitzen rather than an Impreza.

[Albertt]

Originally posted by tl01_staniland
so basicly the tl01 is not good enough for rally....
im only thinking about dusty tracks
i will get another car for the muddy kinda tracks...



ash

As I had stated before, I think it would do well, provided you modified the suspension for more travel.

If you're planning on buying a TL01, I'd go for this (http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rc/electric/110scale/tl01/58293.html) one...because it already has the LSA kit parts.

[Jimmy33]

man I love that transam - who makes it?

way ordered my '98 impressa to day, arriveing and painting it on friday and I am leaving for skiing at 3am on sat - talk about a close scedual :p

[SixVi6-Camaro]

the Trans Am is by HPI.. I have both that body and the HPI Camaro SS body.

[Janders]

The 200mm body is for my TB-01. I like the M3, and Audi, as for the Escudo- I've heard nothing good about it's clearance/design for rallying-it's got that huge front lip to catch on the terrain(I love the real thing though). I'm probably going with the 98 Imprezzza 200 body

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXN223

How is the quality and detail of the HPI? I love the 2 Tamiya bodies I have, very detailed, but my street car runs a Hot bodies NSX, and the detail is low, and came with no stickers. How do HPI bodies compare to Tamiya bodies?

[Jimmy33]

one of my personal fav. for bodies would the either the CEN Citroen Xsar (which i am still waiting for) or the Protoform Citoren Xsara shell

How did you get the can to 200mm

the HPI subaru looks great too! :cool:

[Janders]

Originally posted by Jimmy33

How did you get the can to 200mm


TG-10 long rear axles, and hex spacers. Went from 178mm(I think that's the stock measurement) to 193mm.

[Jimmy33]

Cool. Where you measure the width from?

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
TG-10 long rear axles, and hex spacers. Went from 178mm(I think that's the stock measurement) to 193mm.

I believe that Tamiya cars are about 183mm to 185mm stock. My Tb01 has spacers and rims with a 3mm offset and fits 190 bodies...evn though I buy Tamiya ones. If I were you, I'd check to make sure the 200mm bodies are not too wide for the car's track width.

[Janders]

Stock, it was 183(I just checked & measured). It is now 195(at the widest point when the dogbones are parrallel to the ground), sitting with shocks at full extension it's about 192. The outside of the tires sits about 1mm outside of the stock body on each side, so it hits on every decent jump. I need to run the 5mm spacers up front, and 6mm rear, right now it's 3mm up front and 5mm in the back(I think) with HPI wheels(3mm offset?).

I really want 26mm rally tires to help distribute 'the pain' of large jumps.

[Janders]

measure width from the outside of the tires

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
Stock, it was 183(I just checked & measured). It is now 195(at the widest point when the dogbones are parrallel to the ground), sitting with shocks at full extension it's about 192. The outside of the tires sits about 1mm outside of the stock body on each side, so it hits on every decent jump. I need to run the 5mm spacers up front, and 6mm rear, right now it's 3mm up front and 5mm in the back(I think) with HPI wheels(3mm offset?).

I really want 26mm rally tires to help distribute 'the pain' of large jumps.

That's a lot of spacers. Are the TG10 axles really that much longer?

I guess, I'm not as concerned with width, I stick with the $$$Tamiya$$$ bodies...mostly because of aesthetic reasons.

I use 26mm HPI rims, but concerning absorbing the shock due to bumps, I was wondering if the HPI Super-size wheels (http://www.hpiracing.com/wheels-s.htm) would work on the TB01. The hex feature on the wheels is the same size, but my concern is whether the extra width of these rims would interfere with supension components. As for the body, I would just cut the wheels wells larger. Ugly, but functional. What do you think?

[Janders]

..is that of you cut it for full shock travel, it take sthe whole side, and the body will flex so much it will fold under(front bumper) or tear easilly(rear). I have a Yokomo body that was cut too much.

The supersize wheels(35mm wide!) wouldn't fit in any body I know of, and would probably interefere with the shocks, depending on the offset.

I just ordered Kyosho Rally 26mm rims, and the Alpha Rally tires(27.2mm). The tires are backordered, but look like they'll be well worth the wait.

I'm a big fan of the Tamiya detail, but the HPI body I just ordered looked fairly high in quallity, + I have 2 Tamiya Rally bodies, allthough one is VERY beat up, and has the wrong type of paint on it. I'll post pics when I get the new 200mm 98 Imprezza in the mail. I wish they had Widebody bodies, basically a 190mm body, but with flared and extended fenders.

[Janders]

It fit well, and the wheels fit nicely inside when the suspension compresses.
I also made a short movie-bashing on the new body(it definitely doesn't crack as easilly as the Tamiya bodies I have)
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/WRX.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/WRX2.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/NSXWRX.JPG


and the movie(.mp4, 3 megs)
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/dirtrally3.mp4

[Albertt]

Janders

I asked you in your other post...but I found a pic of the Alpha tires...they look as though they would be similar to the Tamiya tires...but since they are a bit higher, might offer a bit more ground clearance.
http://www2.gpmd.com/image/k/kyoc6369.jpg

I have an old body I don't mind trashing...I think I will be the giunea pig and try the Super-size wheels and tires...those would give some serious ground clearance and stability...

[Janders]

I've got 20mm rear,18 middle and 15mm front clearance right now with the Tamiya tires. The HPI shocks can extend a little more, but the arms are restricted by the body. Post some picks if you run the supersize tires(do you happen to know the offset on those?). I've also got a few bodies I could cut up, if it looks like it's worth it.

BTW the Tamiyas measure at 2.7'', the same as the OD on the Alpha's

[mrkinigit]

Anyone here tried using the inner body from the acedemy rally car on a TC3 rally? Or the schumacher cat 3000 body ( which seems to work well for the TC3"O" guys)? I plan on converting a TC3 to rally work and trying to decide on a good method of keeping most of the dirt out.

[aa240sx]

let me know what happens here. i've seen a thread with a guy that uses an HPI inner body, but it was hacked up quite a bit. i made the lexan cover for the steering rack and that seems to work quite well. info on www.rc10.com, but covering the drivetrain would be even better.

[talon51]

TC3 Rally inner body
A friend of mine found this at towerhobbies, you will not find it on HPI's site though. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBGM0&P=7 HPI part #7116, made for the Pro 3. It fits with a bit of modification, and works fairly well.

[Janders]

It always amazes me how much abuse the TB-01 can take. Absolutetly nothing broke with 45 minutes of just flinging it through the air at the local track, allthoug it did overheat after a pack and a half-I need to find a low draw fan to put in the underbody-any suggestions?. http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/jump1.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/jump3.jpeg
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/jump2.jpeg

of course I made a movie, that's got a bunch of good jumps in it!(1.4mb)
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/air.mp4

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
It always amazes me how much abuse the TB-01 can take. Absolutetly nothing broke with 45 minutes of just flinging it through the air at the local track, allthoug it did overheat after a pack and a half-I need to find a low draw fan to put in the underbody-any suggestions?...

Overheated after a pack and half? Are you overgeared? What was the ambient temperature while you were running it?

I thought about a low draw fan once...perhaps mounted on the innerbody cover...pulling hot air out of the chassis. I can't seem to find a DigiKey catalog anywhere in my house...

[Albertt]

Janders

About your MP4 files. I've tried downloading them, but my computer tells me that my Media Player can't support the format. What media player should I download so that I may view your videos?

Thanks
AL

[Janders]

Somethings making my car overheat- I run a 7.94 gear ratio(19/58) with a 13T double team Orion Havok with a 12T duratraxx ESC. I'm also running a closed body cover, and plugged bottom-vent. It was also ~80* F out. It seems like I have no low end, but I don't know if it's the motor/ESC traction control/ or gearing

As for the movies, try getting a Quicktime player, or just search for 'mp4 video player' on google.

I may just go to radio shack and get a CPU fan@ 12V

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
Somethings making my car overheat- I run a 7.94 gear ratio(19/58) with a 13T double team Orion Havok with a 12T duratraxx ESC. I'm also running a closed body cover, and plugged bottom-vent. It was also ~80* F out. It seems like I have no low end, but I don't know if it's the motor/ESC traction control/ or gearing

As for the movies, try getting a Quicktime player, or just search for 'mp4 video player' on google.

I may just go to radio shack and get a CPU fan@ 12V

I downloaded the Mac Quicktime player...plays Mp4s like a charm...thanks.

I was looking at the Radio Shack site at the fans as well...this one looks pretty good:
http://www.radioshack.com/images/ProductCatalog/ProductImage/273/273-153.jpg

I'm not sure if 19/58 ratio is considered overgeared, but if you have a larger spur, I would try it and see if it still overheats so easily.

[Janders]

it's a 12V so it runs a little slow on the 5 servo volts, but it moves air. My install was a little ugly, but it gets the job(cooling) done
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/PANA0075.JPG
the foam above the fan is a hole from a previous project and allows air to come at the engine fins from the rear
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/PANA0076.JPG
Ther's also an intake on the front

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
it's a 12V so it runs a little slow on the 5 servo volts, but it moves air. My install was a little ugly, but it gets the job(cooling) done...http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/PANA0076.JPG
Ther's also an intake on the front

I was thinking that I would power the fan off of the motor leads, so that it's speed is proportional to motor speed. I am afraid that damage would be done to the ESC...so I'm holding off on that.

Looks like you've really worn out your tires. My knobbies are only for dirt...I have a set of HPI street tires for when I run on pavement.

[Janders]

I thought about running off of the motor leads, but I didn't want to melt the wires, and have the short out due to the high motor temps. I don't think this would hurt the ESC much, but remember the fan would only run when the car is moving, so it would be prone to heat soak when sitting still. Also, if the ESC overheats, when cooling is needed the most, it shuts off power to the motor and would turn off the fan
**
Try and get the highest RPM or CFM fan they have, as it'll only be running at 1/2 throttle:)

[Janders]

I've been busy doing research and can't do any Rallying 1st hand.

[Albertt]

Originally posted by Janders
I've been busy doing research and can't do any Rallying 1st hand.

Dude, I've tried too...only one's I've seen are yours.

[SteveK]

If you are hooking up a fan, have it run off the main battery so it's always on: The ESC needs cooling the most at slow speeds, when the moto won't be going very fast.

The best option is to hook up a 9-volt battery to it: No tapping into the ESC leads, no excess power draw, the fan always runs, and the motor spins at 75% speed, rather than 50% running off the car battery.

[Janders]

Mine runs off the reciever @5v, but it's a 12v fan. It seems to work good and the fan is rated at some ridiculously low amp draw(0.13 amp@12v if I remember right). and it was ~$10. I may get another one and run them in parallel

[Jimmy33]

hmmm been quiet lately some time soon I will load the pictures of the abuse I gave my TB01 while I was skiing - after exams so the 10th June!!!

[Janders]

I just finished finals week up, and my TB-01 is in pieces- I needed the electronics for my wild dagger and my 8T ESC for the rally has to be returned as it was fubar on arrival:(

[Jimmy33]

here are some pics of some of the damage I took while skiing!

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/117061/Dscn0396.jpg

[Jimmy33]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/117061/Dscn0397.jpg

[Jimmy33]

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/117061/Dscn0399.jpg

[Janders]

That reminds me of the damage Mcrae actually did to a rim last year @ the WRC. I can't remember which rally though

[DualBL]

i didn't know that this thread existed...
guess I'll post some of my pics
http://www.brushless.net/~tc3punk/tc31.jpg
http://www.brushless.net/~tc3punk/tc32.jpg
http://www.brushless.net/~tc3punk/tc33.jpg
http://www.brushless.net/~tc3punk/tc34.jpg
http://www.brushless.net/~tc3punk/tc35.jpg
njoi
:)

[SpecialEd0084]

Hi,

I am debating if I should convert my tc3 into a rally. I just moved and there's no onroad tracks around, just offroad. My questions are, is it that durable for offroad use? Do I need an inner body even with the steering rack cover? What breaks the most often? Thanks.

[aa240sx]

i am a huge fan of rally and immediately converted my team tc3 to rally. i would say that it can be done, and the car is quite competitive, but the steering assembly must be absolutely debris free. go to the tc3 website and make sure you follow the directions for creating a lexan cover for the steering assembly.

[SpecialEd0084]

Thanks for the reply aa. Yeah I heard about the steering rack prob, I'll be sure to do that mod. Are there any durability issues with ur tc3-r?

[FLiPStaR*]

no rally nitro's?

whats up?

[DualBL]

i broke a front arm, and popped the rear shock tower screws out of the rear diff case...

but that's probably because it was 5 degrees outside:p

since it's been warmer (50 degrees) I've jumped it over 20 feet, and had it traction-rolls into curbs at 50+ mph.

so far, so good:D

[Janders]

I have been running my onroad car and my Monster truck, haven't had time to run my rally...it's ~95-100*F out and I had to use a bunch of my rally screws/pins/parts on my MT

[Janders]

I rigged all my cars so I only have to use 1 reciever and my Superrooster for all of them. I now have a few ESC's and recievers/radios to sell:). I geared down my TB-01 with a Havok 15T and it's so much fun. I made 'spike' tires today with bald rally tires and 16 thumb tacks per tire. It works a lot better in grass now..although I really need to lock the diffs

[Janders]

Just curious to see how you guys run your diffs. I'm sick of getting stuck with both of my diffs open in just a little grass, or with two wheels off the ground.
Should I just lock the rear diff? Or should I do the front and rear...I don't want to loose the ability to kick out the rear end on demand.
thx

[microrcdude]

I recently picked up an HPI rally. I love it so much, I think i might start a buisiness building and restoring rally cars

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by Janders
Just curious to see how you guys run your diffs. I'm sick of getting stuck with both of my diffs open in just a little grass, or with two wheels off the ground.
Should I just lock the rear diff? Or should I do the front and rear...I don't want to loose the ability to kick out the rear end on demand.
thx

The only reason (to me) people lock diffs is to rock crawl

[Janders]

that's the main reason I'd do it. If you high center with open diffs you will just have spinning wheels in the air: /
I may just lock the rear diff. I have both locked on my MR4-TC and throttle steer and love it : )

[microrcdude]

How's everyone's rally car doing??

[microrcdude]

Just finished my new rally track. Will test it out tomarrow. I'll try to get some pics

[Janders]

I want to see this. I made one complete wit jumps, grass, gravel, sand, pavement in my front and side yards, along with slalom cones.

[microrcdude]

I had fun today....................

[Janders]

I used to run touring car rims on my rally...until I did that to a few of them : )

[microrcdude]

those were my only mounted rally tires!! I got to get some new team orion wheels

[Janders]

you can gradually pry them away from the wheels, and remount them. I've got LOTS of sets of brand new HPI rally tires/rims and Kyosho Alpha(best tires IMHO) sitting around. If you want to buy a set, shoot me an email @ janders211@yahoo.com - I have paypal.

[microrcdude]

Well, Janders. It seems as if nobody is here anymore. The last post by someone othor than you and me was by DualBL in june.
SOMEBODY POST SOMETHING!!!!!

[microrcdude]

I found my next project!!! Hopefully othors will follow!!
I am going to convert a HPI super RS4 into a rally car!
8 cells, 10 turn axiom........I can see it now!!

[Janders]

is pretty useless offroad. Once I started using motors under 15T, It was essentially not any faster, although it did generate a lot more heat. 13T's actually desolder the motor leads after about 2 packs...suprisingly none of the plastic melts.

As for the RS4 you have to be careful about getting things stuck in the belt. For a Rally car, durability and ability to get REALLY dirty should be a primary concern...that's why I favor the TB-01, although the RS4 should be lighter.

yeah, this forum is a little slow lately, hopefully I'll get some nice rally action/pics in over winter : )

[microrcdude]

Yeah, but the HPI also comes with an inner body to keep dirt out!!

[Janders]

I know the HPI has more shock travel( I use them on my Tamiya)

[Jimmy33]

hiya!
i need a new rally car as I am bored what do you think is best
the TB01 is to good - it wont break and there is nothing left to do on it

I was thinking maybe a Kyosho PureTen Alpha as ther is loads to do and it breaks so i can work on it.

In addition to this there is the added bonus the koysho bodies are cheaper and there are more to put on it.

Someone surgest HPI rally but i cant get HPI easily so i said no.

Any other thoughts or should i but a another TB01
also i am concicering a TT01 and a TB02

[Janders]

all the 1/10th scale bodies will work on the TB-01. I have 8 bodies and can swap them between my TC, my rally's and my MT.

Seriously, save the money- no need for 2 rally's and get a brushless setup, you can always swap it between cars if you get another.

If you have the monet to burn, a Super Nitro Rallymight be crazy..and you'll definitely break something : )

[Jimmy33]

but there is nothing to do on the tb01 as it never breaks! Also my TB01 because the ground clearance is so high the wiedth is only just 190 i think with the extended wheel hubs!
I would get an HPI but i cant bet the parts, I have a Landmax 2 nitro us just want something with will need more matenance than the TB01. The tb01 is just too good! :D

[Janders]

I like the durability of my TB-01, especially since I spend so much time working on my MR-4TC(breaks all the time) and fixing up my Wild Dagger. Not even metioning the time/work I do on my 'real' car....I definitely don't need more to fix.. Maybe you could try some SNR wide wheels on the TB-01, or cut open the back of the battery slot for a twin motor TB-01...stuff would probably break then.lol!

[Jimmy33]

now that sounds like fun!

let me see what i can do

and btw i use a 15 turn motor for rallying to the 13T gets too hot!

[microrcdude]

Great!!! everyones against my rally!!
JImmy33,
I didn't know you had a rally car!! It seamed like for a while, Janders and i were the only rally people.

What are you guys doing to your rally cars?? What mods do you plan on doing??
I got to get a new top shaft. I plan on getting some new shocks for my rally. maybe these because the price, but i will need 4.
I might also get another rally, and convert it to a 4wd buggy.

[microrcdude]

what type of rally car should a 6 year old have?? My brother loves rally, and wants one real bad

[Janders]

get something durable and not too fast..probably what Radioshack has, as you just have to assume that he'll drive it into a large puddle/ditch/oncoming car/etc. If you have the money to blow, and really want him to have 4WD, try a TL-01(about $100 RTR) and leave the MSC and stock motor until he's older(if it lasts:)

AS for converting to a 4WD buggy, something I've wanted to do...
get a wild dagger, use the two gearboxes to make a BEAST of a dual-motor monster with 1/8th scale buggy tires... the only thing you have to overcome is the low gear ratio (use high RPM motors or a TTR adapter). If you want the TB-01 gearing and want to make a buggy, Wild dagger arms will bolt on to the TB-01 chassis, making a widebody buggy...just some ideas

[microrcdude]

yeah, he has a nicco. He is great driving my rally when the batt starts to die. He can drive it nice and smooth. i think he might be getting a TB-01. He will sell his dual sport, to get his rally. We will use hpi LANCER EVO VI WRC 200MM bodies because they are 10.99 at sheldons. He wants to make his bodies flow with the TRF decals to make his paintjob look better. http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCPU0&P=0 I'm so exited to have a rally car brother!!! My dad might get a rallycar too!!

[microrcdude]

my dad is going rally!!!!:D :D :D He said that he's gonna get a rally car to kick our butts with!!!! he won't kick mine. he also wants to start a buisness called RALLI-TEK. He want's to build custom modified P2K's and P2K2's. I'm also getting another HPI rally!!! His factory team's gonna rule!!!

[4x4rust-o-pede]

well, i will be another rallyer, by christmas, if not before, depends on when it get shere!

im getting a RS4 rally!! woohooo! all for $85, its brand , unpainted body, everything is ready to be ran, i dont even have to build it!

i am going to use a p2k and quantum, maybe change it with a p94 10x2!!!

i pan to do lots of drifting and jumping!! im gonna paint it yellow

winter bashing pics will be up.

Microrcdude - if u make a business, can i be a tester?????, me and jander!

later
nate

[Janders]

thanks for volunteering me :)

I'm definitely game for testing/breaking any new product

[4x4rust-o-pede]

hey

since we ware supposedly the only rallyers on this forum, we should!!

nate

[microrcdude]

I'll think about it........

[4x4rust-o-pede]

man,

im still waiting on the rally, but i also have another problem, right now i have 2 vehicles coming!

1. RS4 Rally
2. Juggernaut 2

problem is that if i want the juggy, i am trading my touring car and the quantum comp.

Well the problem is that since i have 2 speedo, and room for one car, i need to figure which i dont want

It will probably be a biased opinion, but i need a good answer to it!, which will be a GREAT basher????

thanks
nate

[Janders]

or 2 1/10 cars. EIther rally you keep it can also double as an onroad car. I think's it's p[ointless when you have more than one of a car(i.e. TC, rally, MT, RT, buggy). MT's make awesome bashers, and so do rally's it just depends on what kind of bashing you do.

[microrcdude]

Stay with rally!!! Forget about the jugg.

[Janders]

I thought he had a rally and was getting another one in addition to the Jugg

[4x4rust-o-pede]

oops sorry for the confusion!

well, i said screw the juggy! im stayin wit the rally!
i heard it is much more durable than a juggy!

argg, mail takes too long! money hasnt gotten there, but then money was sent on thursday!:)

i went to my lhs and told them about my dilemma, being MT fans themselves, they were like "go rally" they said juggys are great trucks, some have them, BUT they require lots of money because they are so perty when u hook em up!

that and they have HUGE support for HPI there

nate

[microrcdude]

Good!!!

[microrcdude]

what happened to everyone??

[Turbo Tin Can]

I finished water proofing my rs4 for winter rallys. I siliconed the difs, reciver box ect. Seems pretty water tight, only thing that worries me is the bearings in teh axles and the outer bearings on the diffs. They are expensive to replaces as well, I also put a big tape screen in front of my air filter and motor so snow doesnt get on it, punched two holes in the side and made a ghetto airscoop for some airflow. While bored last night i also made inner tirewells with roofing tar paper, keeps 90% of the snow out lol. Much better than the first day i had it in the snow. I recommend these tar paper flaps to anyone.

[Janders]

but I use the same protection for snow and mud. The mud flaps are a great idea, as for the bearings- I wouldn't worry about it, just give it a good once over with WD-40 after each run, soaking each bearing with spray.

[microrcdude]

my rally is being rebuilt!!!

[Turbo Tin Can]

I cant find these rally prolines anywhere, also what are these mip and cvd thigns. They look like axles with dogbones. Whats the main reason people buy them>?

[Janders]

Originally posted by Turbo Tin Can
I cant find these rally prolines anywhere, also what are these mip and cvd thigns. They look like axles with dogbones. Whats the main reason people buy them>?

CVDs=Constant Velocity Joints...universal joints replace the dogbones and are more efficient and are made by MIP. Proline rally what?

[Turbo Tin Can]

Im looking for tires btw, im studding my tires.

Take staples, push em through from the backside, then epoxy, or use foam inserts to keep them in place. You should see what i do to my real WRX.

[Janders]

I did it with some worm out Tamiya Rally blocks and put thumbtacks in through the rear..they're thicker than staples, and stronger. In grass it's impressive. It's like moving the lawn the way it tears up the green...I just wish it would ice over here so I could test it on ice.

[Turbo Tin Can]

oooooo good idea btw i still cant see your videos.

[Janders]

Originally posted by Turbo Tin Can
oooooo good idea btw i still cant see your videos.

My videos aren't uploaded on my server anymore. If you email me at janders211@yahoo.com I can send you most of the vids via email(up to 3 megs each).

[Turbo Tin Can]

Staples rule, so fast now.

[microrcdude]

My HPI rally is not going to be a rally for long. I'm going to convert it into a 4WD buggy. all i need to do to turn it into a rally is change the bumper, body, body posts, and tires.

[Turbo Tin Can]

Traiter.

[microrcdude]

I will change it later. I gotta ROAR on road race coming up for it.

[Turbo Tin Can]

Since ihave two rs4 3 SS's, should i take the diff off the front and put it on the running car in the rear? Will that work? I figure an lsd up front is great, but wouldnt an lsd in the rear as well be better? What do you all think?

[Janders]

Originally posted by Turbo Tin Can
Since ihave two rs4 3 SS's, should i take the diff off the front and put it on the running car in the rear? Will that work? I figure an lsd up front is great, but wouldnt an lsd in the rear as well be better? What do you all think?

I have my rear diff fully locked on my rally, I prefer it, but some people leave both diffs open

[Turbo Tin Can]

Almost done my project:

I've added the following.


: RS4 Rally front A arms and uprights, offer much more travel than standard arms!
RS4 Super Nitro Rally suspension mounts, front and rear, along with the bumper set, i grinded the chasis to fit the bumper. RAlly 2.2 inch tires and wheels.

60mm Long stroke oil filled shocks, with green hpi med to heavy springs, using the #1 piston and 20weight oil.

Slipper clutch with a new spur gear, i forget which one 47 i think.
Bellhousing 19T, i didnt know this, but i also need a needle bearing part number B046 to use it.

A bit of trimming here and there, a butchered body with massive wheel wheels and shes almost done. I have over an inch of clearance, big tires and hopefully it will be geared enough to accomodate the bigger wheels.

I havent driven it yet :( Waiting on one more bearing and whatnot, the chassis seems to be up like a ST so im pretty amped to jump it. I'm sure its up to the task.


Only real issues are the massive amounts of suspension travel has the wheels rubbing the body, i may trim some more, or flare the fenders some. I'm hoping its fairly balanced, but im sure its nose heavy, so i left some aluminum in the rear and put all plastic up front. Should help even her out a bit. I'n the end i have a jacked up WRX 1/10th scale that should compete just fine with the buggies and ST's . :)

Things im still wondering, can the front diff be used in the rear? Does it spin the wrong way? I'd like to have an lsd in the rear, in my Real WRX it helps a great deal on track. Swaybars, are they really necessary on a rally or buggy?

[Janders]

If it's a TB-01, the diffs are interchangeable, you just have to be sure the diffs are arranged with the gears on opposite sides front and rear when you install them

[microrcdude]

i think it's an HPI nitro 3 SS

[Turbo Tin Can]

Yea its an rs4 s SS, i have the whole diff from the front of my other car sitting here. I'm just wondering if i just throw it on, is it gonna spin the right direction? Will it oversteer all over the place, i dont understand why its only got one good diff stock.

[microrcdude]

I recently lowered the suspension on my rally so i could do on road. I think i might re-rally it so i can race it.

[Janders]

I just bought this as I haven't seen anyone running it.

[Janders]

I've been running 550's in alot of my applications, and was wondering if anyone has tried any 'large' motors in their rally? They have loads of torque, and you can gear wide. I think this may be my project this week.

[microrcdude]

i have that exact body!!!

I have never tried big motors in my rally. all i have are GM3s

[Janders]

Did you get it off ebay, or do it yourself? I really like the lines on it, even if it is a Corolla :)

[microrcdude]

I got it when i baught my car. I really like it. (The Station Wagon That Could) LOL LOL

[microrcdude]

anyone still have a rally car?

[Z-tuner]

I still have mine, Kyosho MP7.5 Rally, ready for onroad track.

http://www.rctotal.com/cotxe/RCTOTAL/Fotos%20cotxe%202004-04-02/Foto_15.jpg

http://www.rctotal.com/cotxe/RCTOTAL/Fotos%20cotxe%202004-04-02/Foto_04.jpg

[microrcdude]

wow that is awesome! is it fun to drive?

[Toyotatogo]

I still have mine, Kyosho MP7.5 Rally, ready for onroad track.

http://www.rctotal.com/cotxe/RCTOTAL/Fotos%20cotxe%202004-04-02/Foto_15.jpg

http://www.rctotal.com/cotxe/RCTOTAL/Fotos%20cotxe%202004-04-02/Foto_04.jpg

Who makes the rims, and tires, and where could I buy them here in the United States?

[newracer]

Anybody know where I can get a new chassis for my HPI rally? I can't find one anywhere. PM or email me, thanks!

[RCNitroDude999]

If anyone has a nitro rally they are looking to sell, email me at rcnitrodude999@earthlink.net, also, provide some pics if possible. Thanks.

[microrcdude]

Anybody know where I can get a new chassis for my HPI rally? I can't find one anywhere. PM or email me, thanks!
I can help you with that. BUT, i will probably post it in the RS4 rally thread in the electric on-road forums.

[Icon_GTR]

I've been looking through this thread, and man, i can't help myself, i like getting DIRTY! I pick up lotsa loose stones and stuff off my local carpark anyways, so if i make up some lexan covers over the belt pulley's and stuff, will it work ok?

Thinking i might get an escort body or something, that'd be phat :D

Anyways, i'm pretty strapped for cash, so wont be buying a new car for a while, but the next one i get will definately be a rally.

Main thing i need to worry about would be steering, belt, motor and ESC right?

[microrcdude]

yes, motor and ESC is the main concern. i wold make sure that your belts and steering are well guarded. It can really mess up your car if ya got something stuck in there.

[microrcdude]

Also, forgot to add, but you may want to get some rally shocks. That way, you can conquer more obsticles and your car will be slightly more durable.

[Poor Judgement]

I have a well modded cen rally - anyone else got one?

This is mine. Just waitin on a few bits after a full on rebuild.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/802664/DSC01219.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/802664/DSC01283.JPG

more pics here (http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1003938)

[Poor Judgement]

oh cmon....there must be some rally owners out there........

[microrcdude]

Im selling my rally, i need some cash. Lemme see if i can dig up some pics.

[microrcdude]

I have a well modded cen rally - anyone else got one?

This is mine. Just waitin on a few bits after a full on rebuild.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/802664/DSC01219.JPG

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-8/802664/DSC01283.JPG

more pics here (http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1003938)
What tires are those?

[Poor Judgement]

the tyres are schumacher 8x10 cut spikes, 2.2". havent tried them yet, i got them cheap on ebay for the local beack where i use my car. i have a selection including mini spikes and super balloning buggy dirt hawgs which are very sticky but balloon like crazy. the spikes also work quite well on loose gravel. maybe not the best, but i like the way it drives with my old spikes, hope these are similar.

just got some proline sand paws, need to convert over to the mt to use them tho...

what do u use and where do u use them?

[microrcdude]

Mostly for sand and mud. They arent too good on the street.

[Poor Judgement]

Mostly for sand and mud. They arent too good on the street.

eh? i presume you mean my spiked tyres? lol, no i wont be using them on the street, i use my dirt hawgs on the street, they are very soft and sticky, too much so, really. but its too cold here too run it and try them, gonna be that way till after febuary by the looks of it :( . im not keen on running my engine while the temps are so low.