Rally car/modified rally car forum

[kartrun]

Currently building a super modified Ta03rs-trf rally car.This car will include DUAL modified motor power,8 battery cells,Rallyblock tires and a few other goodies along the way.Was just wanting to know who else here races or has rally cars either stock or modified?Pics of your rides would be great if you could include them.Thanks!:D :D

[kartrun]

Nobody has rally cars??:confused: I find that hard to believe.Come on guys,lets see and hear about them!;)

[sixandeightstringer]

Team Losi Rally Weapon, stock motor; added Lunsfords, RPM ball cups (dyed red), Hammad Ghuman shock cups and adjusters, alloy dogbones, other stuff...

Chassis alone:

[sixandeightstringer]

Here's a shot with the inner body attached:

[sixandeightstringer]

And a shot in action (the green focus, leading the pack) :D

[RS4rally1124]

you guys sweet cars. the rally cars are the best. i have an hpi rally. the team losi looks more like a buggy than a car. but i have heard they are awsome. i wish my dad would let me buy one. i love losi but i don't know. i still think they are cool.


JT

[sixandeightstringer]

The Losi Rally car is based on the Street Weapon Sedan, which in turn was based on the XX4 (4wd buggy) so I guess you can see the "bugginess" in the chassis; but it's very durable and fast. Totally worth the $70 I paid for it, brand new.

Talk to Dad - they still can be found for around $80 brand new.

[RS4rally1124]

$75 for a new one at my lhs. they have 12 of them. i just bought an original rc10 and a 1/12 scale. next in line is the pirate 10 and then another rally car.

JT

[kartrun]

You know,i changed my mind about the dual motor car.I've decided to turn my TB Evolution into a tarmac rally car(it will work offroad as well but i like to keep my babies clean:D )
Lets see...........hmmmmmmmm,5 turn modified,10 cells,digital speed control,rally block tires...WOW i've just created an Unlimited hill climb racer!!Watch out pikes peak here i come!!!:D

[tarheelquality]

Just picked up a Rally weapon off ebay $75.00. Probaly going to run on road mostly, Any suggestions for hop ups? I like the TB idea kartrun , but how many cars do you have??? I have lost track. Talk to you later. We will have to get together this weekend.

Tom

[kartrun]

Tom,first of all if it doesn't have bearings get them.Next let me build you about a 12 or 14 turn modified,that should set the gravel on fire.Another thing that i found works great is a set of tamiya rally block tires.When we meet up i'll bring my Tb evo and show it to you.I just bought an HPI suzuki escudo pikes peak body for it,i know its going to look awesome.LOL,as far as how many cars i have goes,its about 8 right now:D

[sixandeightstringer]

Tom, the Rally Weapon comes with full bearings for the transmission, but lacks the ones for the steering. You may want to get them I (they may be listed as XX-4 or Street Weapon steering bearings - they're the same thing.) I'd also recommend a set of outdrive savers (aluminum or titanium) as the outdrives take a bit of a beating. And make sure you put at least one spacer inside the front shocks to limit their travel - I found that without limiters they traveled too low and caused the front universals to be too loose in the front outdrives, which damaged them. There's also a front bumper mod you'll probably want to consider; it's connection to the front of the car is a weak spot, but it's easily and cheaply fixed.

Other than that, pretty much any Street Weapon hopup fits this car, so if you're into hopups, go to town...

[Skribble]

Anyway to make a XXX-S rally? :confused:

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by Skribble
Anyway to make a XXX-S rally? :confused:

Can't see why not... there's only a few different parts on the Rally Weapon, from the Street Weapon it's based on:

1. Longer shocks
2. Different rear hubs, to allow for the travel differences

Can't see why you couldn't buy a set of the Rally Weapon shocks and fit them to a XXXs and try it. The Street Weapon/XXXs shocks are the same, and so are the Rally Weapon shocks - it'd be a direct bolt-on. Just don't know about the ability to hold into the outdrives, and if the outdrives would accept the higher angle from the longer travel. You might also have to file off the droop screw plates on the arms.

[tarheelquality]

Kartrun,
I am going to run this one in stock instead of getting the fwd yok. I will give you a call this afternoon, try to come by tommorow. Now we just need a place to run our rallys offroad around here. I have thought about talking to the folks at the Little River Community center about using some of their open space. I'll let you know.

[tarheelquality]

Anybody on here have suggestions for where I can find rally or street weapon parts online? I know the xxxs is now the primary car but there are still alot of the others out there apparently.

[sixandeightstringer]

Here's a start:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/

http://www.1hg.com/models/index.cfm?model_id=22

http://search.store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/nsearch?follow-pro=1&vwcatalog=ehobbies-com&catalog=ehobbies-com&query=weapon

http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/catalog2.cgi?make=Losi&car_id=65

http://www.btown.com/sheldons/listing/tml04.html

[sixandeightstringer]

Oh yeah - and if you're running in the dirt, the first thing you'll probably want to get is this, from Horizon:

STREET WEAPON DUST COVER
by TEAM LOSI, INC. [LOSA8051] • Price: $7.95

You can find it easily by using Horizon's search, using the keywords "weapon dust".

At the beginning of this thread you can see a picture of mine. It's worth it; not only does it keep crud out of the electronics (the drivetrain is sealed already) but it also is easy to put in and acts as a battery hold down, eliminating the annoying existing battery hold down "straps."

[tarheelquality]

Thanks for the links. Do you have any heat problems with the cover on? I would think it would cut off the air to your esc.

[sixandeightstringer]

I run all stock motors, so it's not usually too much of a problem. I drove the car just yesterday on a pretty brutal track, giving the car 15 minutes of rest (tops) between full battery-draining bashing runs. Put four packs through it, and while it got hot, not so hot that I was overly concerned. I put a heat sink on the motor, as well.

I'm thinking, just to be on the safe side, that I may put a bit of mesh grille into a cutout over the motor, just to allow a little more air to get in and out. I just don't want to jeopardize the structural integrity of the inner body or its ability to keep dirt out.

[kartrun]

Tom,keep me posted about what little river says about a track.I had an idea about 6 months ago to have a scale hill climb track,something like a minature pikes peak.I have ideas already for differant classes and have made up some rules.The coolest thing about this is i have created an unlimited nitro and electric class....kind of like the unlimited class at pikes peak...anything goes,dual motors,20 cells,etc......pretty cool huh?Anyways,maybe if we can get a space at little river my dad can bring in a load of dirt from one of his job sites and we can build a scale hill....i was thinking something like about 8-10 feet high,banked about 30-40 degrees,loose dirt(makes it much more interesting),etc.Anyways,just an idea,thought it would be really cool to do it.;)

[kartrun]

well guys,some of you may alreay know that i build my own motors and that i am currently trying to get my little business going.Anyways,my site is finally complete thanks to Cosmo!!See it all here at:http://mindblownmodifieds.cjb.net

I build stock,outlaw stock and modified motors....if you can dream it,i can build it!!;)

[very low budget racer]

Im looking for a cheap, nitro car that I Can run onroad and do rally. I am looking to spend less than 200, I just need a kit and a engine. Any out there you reccmoned? it needs to be able to run onroad if I ever wana try to hit the track.

[TimmyRC10T3]

The only one that comes to mind is the HPI Super Nitro Rally. I belive I have seen it for $210. I am not sure what is included but I know it has a Engine. I hear the are fast but most people change the 13T clutch gear to 15T. They say it is geared to low and that changing it will change you speed by about 10mph. If anyone else can think of one I like to know also.

[tarheelquality]

Timmy if you can let me know where you saw it for $210 i would like to know I have been looking at those for a while.

Thanks

[TimmyRC10T3]

Sorry I couldn't find it for 210 anymore. I do think I have seen it but I guess the sold out of it. Tower Hobbied has it for 279.99 but still that not a bad price. I am very sorry about that and will keep looking for you

[very low budget racer]

Do you think a Stree Force GP might be good to convert? the price/features ratio on it is awsome.

[TimmyRC10T3]

I just looked in my magizine and ultamite hobbies has the HPI Super Nitro Rally for 259.99.

[Fafnir]

Has anyone converted a NTC3 into a Rally car? I have both the TC3 and the NTC3. I know AE makes a Rally conversion kit but it will not work on the NTC3. My biggest concern with this conversion would be keeping dirt/rocks etc out of the gears. Has anyone tried this before???

--Chad

[kartrun]

Originally posted by kartrun
well guys,some of you may alreay know that i build my own motors and that i am currently trying to get my little business going.Anyways,my site is finally complete thanks to Cosmo!!See it all here at:http://mindblownmodifieds.cjb.net

I build stock,outlaw stock and modified motors....if you can dream it,i can build it!!;)




Come on guys! I know you all want to support a fellow R/C enthusiest. What do i have to do?Beg?? Check my site out and give me a call.....let me build you the fastest motor on your block!:D Thanks guys!!

[tarheelquality]

Kartrun,
I bought a mr4tc pro off ebay last night so I guess the rally weapon will stay rally. Now we just have to get a rally track to run them on. But You can only have 6 cells!!! not 10.

Guys you really ought to buy his motors he does a great job and has great prices. :)

[kartrun]

Wow Tom...pretty soon you'll have as many cars as i have lol
No 10 cell rally cars??:( Guess my TB Evo rally was too intimidating huh?:D Did you try the motor out yet?Let me know how it does!Anyways,my street weapon is now being converted to a rally weapon,just picked up a graphite machined chassis for it....my next step is to build a outlaw stock motor for it and pick up some B&T 2400 cells.thanks for the props on my motors Tom,i really appreciate it:D

[kartrun]

Guys????:confused:

[Stregone]

Anyone have some good sites specific to the rally weapon or losi in general?

[kartrun]

www.teamlosi.com

that should have what you are looking for:rolleyes: :D

[59HemiHearse]

stupid question... whats an "outlaw" stock motor?? ive been in this damn hobby for 14 years and i dont know what that is lol... okay cyas

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by Stregone
Anyone have some good sites specific to the rally weapon or losi in general?

There aren't too many. If you're looking for parts, there are a couple sources. If you're looking for tips/tuning, there really isn't much out there right now. I was considering putting up what little I know onto a website, just haven't had the time recently.

If you have questions about the car, I'll do whatever I can to help. I'm a big fan of this car! (no kidding. :rolleyes: )

[kartrun]

Originally posted by 59HemiHearse
stupid question... whats an "outlaw" stock motor?? ive been in this damn hobby for 14 years and i dont know what that is lol... okay cyas


An outlaw stock motor has 36 degrees of timing compared to the normal 27 degrees of a regular stocker.They are hand wound compared to machine wound and most have a "short" armature,hotter brushes,and other bells and whistles to make them really "hot" motors.I offer a really hot outlaw stock motor on my website.Of course its not really legal at most tracks but it will sure suprise your friends when you tell them you'll race their stock powered car with your "stock" powered car and then you smoke em';) :D

[Skribble]

How much do you sell them for?

[kartrun]

$40:rolleyes: :D

[Stregone]

Originally posted by sixandeightstringer


There aren't too many. If you're looking for parts, there are a couple sources. If you're looking for tips/tuning, there really isn't much out there right now. I was considering putting up what little I know onto a website, just haven't had the time recently.

If you have questions about the car, I'll do whatever I can to help. I'm a big fan of this car! (no kidding. :rolleyes: )

I'm just looking for a place to hang out and soak up info about it before I buy one. I'd get one right now but my emaxx broke my wallet! :D

[bubbastump]

i gots a tc3 threw some dirt hawgs on it choped the body (untill i make new parts) shifted weight rebuilt shocks made stronger motor mount and support man u should see it fly hit a jump flew 10-15 feet an was bout 4 foot high only damage is minor still driveable
and best of all she handles like a well still workin on that a little touchy :rolleyes: :o

[getoffmylawn4]

Hey rally people hows it goin?
I just recieved my rally weapon in a trade. I have a couple questions:

1. Is there any way to run normal packs in the car, not the side by side configuration?
2. Can I just put any pair of truck shocks on to make for longer travel in the suspension? Or is there another method you guys reccomend?
3. What other wheels/tires will fit this car? Will putting on larger, more truck-like tires make a difference?
4. HOP UPS?

Thanks in advance for your help. I'll try to get some pictures up ASAP.

Ben

[sixandeightstringer]

If you get the RPM kit for the wheel hexes, you can put wheels that fit standard touring size hexes on it.

Almost any Street Weapon hopup will fit the car. Some of the XX4 stuff will fit as well. I've got a Trinity blue aluminum front bulkhead, a rear bulkhead brace, and some other stuff on my car. If you want to see pics, check out the "My Rides" folder at http://photos.yahoo.com/sixandeightstringer

Don't extend the shocks unless you find longer dogbones/universals; the front ones are already on the edge of being too long to properly move the outdrives without falling out/tearing them up.

AFAIK, there's no way to use anything but Saddle Packs in the car, unless you're super creative.

[dugrant153]

I'm thinking of converting my TC3 to 190mm rally. It's a racer kit at the moment.

What kind of mods would I need to make to get more ground clearance? I know that with the rear a-arms, you just need to add longer shock shafts... but the front a-arms don't bend down as much.

Any advice would be great.

[NitroTXT1]

I have a TL01 that I have modified to fit 3" shocks and I have some 2.2" tires on it but I think I may go back to my original plan of it being a stock motored Rally Car.

I also plan on converting my TA02 into a race type rally:
GPM Carbon Fiber Chassis:$90
GPM Drive Shaft:$20-30
GPM Aluminum Gearboxe Cases:$40
GPM Aluminum A-Arms:$20
GPM Universals:$40
and other parts (May use a Fantom Tuned Motor)

I also plan on making a .21 Powered Super Nitro Rally

[navspecwar]

man, im the only guy in my area that has an RC car, sux. anyway, its an HPI eRally. lots of fun in the gravel road. anyway, kartrun, i noticed you said something about little river. is that little river, as in, little river, SC?

[tarheelquality]

THat is Little River, Durham, NC Sorry. It is an old elementary school that has been converted to a community center.

[navspecwar]

well, i guess i have to drive 3 hrs instead of 1 hr...:p

[Soya]

Here's a shot of my RS4 Rally:

[Soya]

Mods (man, my camera sux) :GPM aluminum hub carriers F/R, GPM aluminum body posts, GPM aluminum bellcranks, HPI Graphite upper deck, main chassis out of 6061 T6 aluminum (made it myself:D), custom graphite rear shock tower and body post mounts, custom bumper brace Rear double wishbone suspension from RS4 Pro, RPM ball cups, other anodized accents (hingepin braces, Etc.), Novak Rooster, Trinity D4 16D, Integy 2400 stick, Hitec servo.
Here's a chassis shot:

[navspecwar]

niiice, mines totally stock and covered in dust:p

[Soya]

Thanks. I stripped the rear belt the other day and haven't driven it in a while. Not to mention I'm letting my friend borrow my electronics:p

[navspecwar]

man, you're almost as immobile as me:p

[Soya]

Yeah, but I gots ma E-maxx to drive until my elecs return:D

[navspecwar]

well, i pirated the electrics outta my evader till i get my new ESC. :p

[Soya]

Man, did it rain a TON today. Great for high speed water crossings:D

[navspecwar]

yea, rained like hell here too. where do you live?

[Soya]

Byron, Illinois. About 90 miles west of Chicago.

[Soya]

This is bad, right?

[navspecwar]

naw, man, just keep runnin!:p j/k. anyway, time to replace my belts too.

[TC3B3L3T3GT]

i once broke a belt and ran front drive on my rally for a while. it isn't fun. I also broke the front belt pulley and ran rear drive, too.
that was awesome!

[Soya]

FYI, Front drive rally cars are NOT fast:p

[Soya]

Mmmmm......Dirt:D :D :D

[Soya]

Notice the bald rally tires:p

[Evo5]

http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20128-2899_IMG.jpg

[Evo5]

http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2913_IMG.jpg http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2923_IMG.jpg http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2927_IMG.jpg

[Evo5]

http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2938_IMG.jpg

[Evo5]

http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2962_IMG.jpg

[Evo5]

http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2969_IMG.jpg

[Evo5]

http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2974_IMG.jpg http://manilaracers.8m.net/slide_shows/QCRCC_Rally_Enduro_Race_page2/Copy%20of%20129-2977_IMG.jpg

[navspecwar]

lmao - i have that same white "rough riders" ford body on my eRally too!:p

[Soya]

Nice shots Evo5! makes me want to go out and rally:D

navspecwar--I used my Stampede's F150 and paddles for the winter. I take a shot afterschool. BTW, what's lmao mean?

[Soya]

Oops, just remembered that I let my friend borrow my Stampede body. Oh well, here's a chassis shot. Perhaps I should use these bad boys in the dirt:D
Also notice that it's still covered in dirt:p

[Soya]

Oops, just remembered that I let my friend borrow my Stampede body. Oh well, here's a chassis shot. Perhaps I should use these bad boys in the dirt:D
I originally bought these for my Blazing Star, but the spur stripped and that was the end of that :mad:
Also notice that it's still covered in dirt:p

[Soya]

Oops, haha!!:rolleyes: :p

[navspecwar]

lemme guess. the blazing star was a tamiya?

anyway - lmao = Laughin My *** Off

[Soya]

Yeah, how'd you know?:p

[navspecwar]

IMO, tamiya = useless gears. EVERYONE ive known that owned a tamiya spent hundreds replacing destroyed gears.

[Soya]

Haha!
I'm thinking of converting my RS4 into the front drive dragger in RC touring cars. I bet it'd be fast with the Aveox BL I'm getting:D :D :D

[Soya]

I tried the conversion and didn't get very far. I needed quite a few parts and didn't feel like making a trip to the hobby shop. Jeez, I'm lazy:p

[NitroTXT1]

The parts that I used to convert my TL01 caused major problems becuase the shock mounts were too weak to even hold the stress of one jump. I tore the thing apart after adding these hop-ups which were the lightweight chassis and all the lightweight drive components. I destroyed the traxxas xl shocks that I had and the chassis ripped in half but I kept the other chassis so I was able to put it back together in two hours but man did the chassis go through hell! I also ripped one of the wires that are on my SpeedStar ESC. I have nothing but a rolling chassis right now but I will soon do the following:
I will add gpm universals for less stress on the drive line
powerline shocks for the nitro 4tec they really raise the ride height without suffering the larger shock towers
a fantom mod or stock motor
a quantom sport esc
a nice fm radio(The cheap ones not an M8
a Nice Tamiya 2002 Subaru Body
Some offset rims to make wider (SS wheels from hpi)
Rally Tires from HPI&Tamiya

[navspecwar]

you positive its an 2002 subaru? cause if it is, i want one. whered you get it?

[NitroTXT1]

maybe it's 2001 but I can tell you this much it's an awesome body and you know tamiya is known for nothing short of awesome detail!

I can't wait to get this car up and running again and I have one question what gearing should I use for the car??

[navspecwar]

aight, what number is on the side? 5? 10? whered you get it?

[Soya]

probably in the 17-21 range, pinion wise.

[navspecwar]

geez, i got a 29T on mine. no wonder it gets so hot.:rolleyes:

[Soya]

hehe

[Soya]

Hello?

[killer_d76]

:ö: hey kartrun, just a thought, i was thinking if it's possible for me to fit a TA-03F gearbox to a TA-03R that'll be two motor in one chassis! it's like a wild dagger but a car version, have you heard of anybody who have done this before?.. i can't imagine a rally car having a two powerful motor bolted on it, not just a rally car but also a powerfull hillclimber too!.. well just a thought, but i have plans of building one in the near future, that is!, if my budget would allow me to do so! :D thanks man!-æ

[Soya]

RC Car Action did a project like that. They bolted in 2 D3.5 6 turn singles and 2 1700 packs. YIKES!!

[killer_d76]

:ö:missed that issue!, could you post a pic?... i would like to see one of those things!, hey would you know what date or issue was it?.. thanks a lot-æ

[Soya]

I'm still looking for it. I'll look more after church.

[Soya]

Bad news. The RC Car Action archives only go back to October '99. I didn't see it, so it must be before that. Perhaps you could e-mail or call them about it.

[killer_d76]

:ö: thanks Soya, well i guess i won't be bothering them for that, i'll just make my own project twin motor TA-03F/R based rally car :D and find out how it handle on the dirt track, thanks for the help ;) well if you have any inputs or suggestions, i highly appreciate it :) -æ

[Soya]

I suggest you run 2 packs. Run time is a good thing:)

[fabolousRC]

Originally posted by killer_d76
:ö: thanks Soya, well i guess i won't be bothering them for that, i'll just make my own project twin motor TA-03F/R based rally car :D and find out how it handle on the dirt track, thanks for the help ;) well if you have any inputs or suggestions, i highly appreciate it :) -æ

You're gonna have problems putting traction to the ground bro. Hear me out though..get Kyosho Rally tires for the Alpha series. They are slightly wider and a lot softer than tamiya rally block even softer than HPI ones.

I had my first race with my TB-01 last night and was having a lot of problem putting the power on the ground (17T on 61T...I think..14 Quad machined motor with Tamiya M Compound tires and hard inserts *probably another culprit)...track condition: Wet with mist from the fog. I could've made it more than 15 laps if it wasn't for slip n slidin I was having with the car. *mental note: GET FASTER/QUICKER SERVO*..I was having trouble counter steering the car...my hands were quick enough to react...the servo wasn't :(

[killer_d76]

Originally posted by fabolousRC


You're gonna have problems putting traction to the ground bro. Hear me out though..get Kyosho Rally tires for the Alpha series. They are slightly wider and a lot softer than tamiya rally block even softer than HPI ones.

I had my first race with my TB-01 last night and was having a lot of problem putting the power on the ground (17T on 61T...I think..14 Quad machined motor with Tamiya M Compound tires and hard inserts *probably another culprit)...track condition: Wet with mist from the fog. I could've made it more than 15 laps if it wasn't for slip n slidin I was having with the car. *mental note: GET FASTER/QUICKER SERVO*..I was having trouble counter steering the car...my hands were quick enough to react...the servo wasn't :(

:ö:gee.. i guess your right!, traction would be the first problem on the list :D.., hey i have a TB-01 too!..it's a one hell of a tough tough chassis i should say!, i'm using a 19T on 58T spur and using a 19x1 motor.. it's really fast on-road! but haven't tried it off-road yet.. i'll be testing it this coming Sunday at our local off-road track and i have a pro-line Rally Boss installed on it, that should hook up on the dirt pretty good! re: steering?, i think your car problem is not the servo man, it's the steering slop, common problem of the TB-01 chassis and the TG-10 chassi too, but the allum. steering set wouldn't do any good either, but getting used to the slop is a big thing, co's TB-01 as i have said is the toughest R/C rally car available in the market right now! thanks for your inputs anyway :D

Soya, are you talking about the "Double Dagger Project" done by RCCA mag? :confused: i still have the mag on my collection, but am not quite sure if there is a TA-03 double motor convertion, maybe i should pull it out and take a look hmm? -æ

[Soya]

No, I'm not. I'm positive they did a dual motor TAO3. They used a Trinity front motor cage and a bunch of other stuff. It's a REALLY old article, though, so have fun finding it.
I wish I had a TBO1. I've got a RS4 Rally and the belts get chewed all the time:(

[killer_d76]

Originally posted by Soya
No, I'm not. I'm positive they did a dual motor TAO3. They used a Trinity front motor cage and a bunch of other stuff. It's a REALLY old article, though, so have fun finding it.
I wish I had a TBO1. I've got a RS4 Rally and the belts get chewed all the time:(

:ö:have fun finding it?! :confused: well sort of, i've found some interesting projects, and i've noticed how fast R/C technology have improved, imagine before (2-3yrs) 100% of the drivers at the driver stand are using stick type controller?! :rolleyes: , and Brian Kinwald was, i guess, 10yrs old there!, well he still looks like a 10yr old kid to me hehehe but man! he kick some butt on the dirt track! :D. You better get yourself TB-01 man!, really awsome! no belt problem!, and super touh chassis, if there would be a endurance race for the rally cars in the Market, included are the TC with rally convertion, i guess, TB-01 would be the winner, cause no other chassis i've known would survive such an abuse from the harsh world of 1/10 scale rally world, included the trigger happy fingers of an R/C beginner! two thumbs up for Tamiya! for creating such kit that really stand for it's purpose, rallying! :D -æ

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by killer_d76
how fast R/C technology have improved, imagine before (2-3yrs) 100% of the drivers at the driver stand are using stick type controller?! :rolleyes:

What's wrong with a stick controller? I have an Airtronics 2-stick racing controller, designed specifically for driving cars. Just because the vast majority of racers use the wheel/trigger style doesn't mean it's "right" for everyone. (I mean, c'mon - the SPICE GIRLS were popular - does that make THEM right?)

You might ask David Spashett (1/10th and 1/12th On Road World Champ), Masami Hirosaka (Off Road World Champ) and Craig Drescher (European World Champ) if the :rolleyes: in your post is appropriate.

[killer_d76]

Originally posted by sixandeightstringer


What's wrong with a stick controller? I have an Airtronics 2-stick racing controller, designed specifically for driving cars. Just because the vast majority of racers use the wheel/trigger style doesn't mean it's "right" for everyone. (I mean, c'mon - the SPICE GIRLS were popular - does that make THEM right?)

You might ask David Spashett (1/10th and 1/12th On Road World Champ), Masami Hirosaka (Off Road World Champ) and Craig Drescher (European World Champ) if the :rolleyes: in your post is appropriate.

:ö:hey i didn't mean to offend anybody or whatsoever about the stick type thing :confused: and the :rolleyes: !!, well if i offended you, i'm sorry man ;), and i have nothing againts that type controller, but my point there was, "before", everybody was using the same type of controller, which is i guess the only design (" the stick type controller" twighlight zone music as background :D) during those early days, and i don't care if those world champs are using a stick or trigger type, ask them and they'll tell you; use whatever controller you are comfortable with?! gets?. then came the trigger type, a new design that is! during those days, now, controllers has improved so much that it's not just good for one model set-up only, but multiple model of different settings!, then came ESC replacing MSC on the racing scene(don't get me wrong on this :D) then ESC was improved to accomodate our need for speed, then came "no motor limit ESC :with twighlight zone background music" and now, brushed motor to brushless!! :confused: , as a 25yr old man, am i that old?! or was it just the fast phasing of our technology? gee! after browsing all those old magazine, makes me feel like i'm 20years older than my present age! -æ

[sixandeightstringer]

Cool - no worries. I've run into people who are quite blunt concerning my use of the two-stick... I might as well have two heads. I just feel more "in control" with the sticks, dunno why.

It's not about the right radio - it's about the right radio for you.

:)

[killer_d76]

:ö: hey isn't that what life should be all about?.. same goes with r/c, you are free to choose what ever you like may it be, airplane, a boat, a truck or homemade r/c even! choose whatever you may feel comportable with and what works for you best, and you'll see everything will be just fine! (hmm, reminds of a song by Bob Marley :D ) ..æ

[Soya]

Fascinating.

[navspecwar]

LOL, soya

[Soya]

Navspecwar!!! Where ya been?!?!

[Jimmy33]

Ma I use a stick type and feel more secure with it though I do sometimes use the trigger type. I be lieve its what you start with that makes you feel bettter with the car!

[Soya]

I'm watching the Cadillac Grand Prix of Washington DC in the American Le Mans series. Those have to be the coolest cars I've ever seen!! Ferrari 550LM, Saleen S7R, Yeah baby!!!!! It's on NBC if you want to check it out.

[chance]

kartrun, tarheelquality, navspecwar. Do you guys still have your rally cars? Do you want to race your rally cars? Check out the Rosewood thread in the where to race forum.

[Soya]

I made some linked to stiffen the front suspension. The hub carriers flex a LOT:p

[Soya]

Come on rally guys, where are you?!?!

[navspecwar]

im here. i check the forum often, but my erally's down right now, so i dont have much to post

[Soya]

So is mine, But I still think we should still post things.

[fabolousRC]

I'm selling two of my TB01s...I'm keeping one though..I just got extra lightweight parts from my buddy's TB01 touring I just bought and I now know how to tame those carbon fiber shaft: CA GLUE!!!. Guys,...if you ever come across of those Carbon Shaft...need not be afraid. just apply light coat of CA glue before you install it into your car/tranny. I just got that idea from a forum where peeps be recommending that you apply CA glue to the ends of your CF chassis to prevent splitting. it goes the same with the shaft too...the epoxy is gonna wear off after some abuse so these CA glue is going to coat the shaft and preventing it from splitting. hey..Imma go try it this weekend before the next race =PPP

[WheelNut]

Hi, I just finished building my custom rally TC3. I used traxxas long shocks on it to get maximum suspension.

Here's a bunch of pics I'll let them tell the modification story :D

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Aug/20028156587424861591149.jpg

Note how thin this chassis section is, I needed this so I coudl get the most droop possible.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Aug/20028156315890962359832.jpg

See how much matieral I had to remove to allow the tie-rods to reach down all the way.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Aug/20028155299086801691490.jpg

And the custom bent up bumper, I just heated up the plastic and bent it up to do this. you can also see the amount of droop here.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Aug/20028153671324299031710.jpg

I'll have my first test drive tommorow! I'll report the results to ya!

[Soya]

Awesome, nice job:)

[DJ BlendeR]

Hey guys, I was wondering if you could tell me what it is that I have. My dad bought a Tamiya Ford Escort CW from Ebay. I think its a TB01, but no one that I know runs Tamiya. The chassis is a really dark grey and the transmission covers are red. The shock towers front and back as well as the front hubcarriers are red. The tires have a tread pattern of two spikes followed by two diagnol lines. The car is shaft driven and looks like it is only 190mm wide. So what tamiya is this? And is it a good performer? How about value, this thing doesn't have a scratch or run (I think) on it. Completely clean, even has the smoke stacks still.

[Soya]

Weird. Shaft means TBO1, but the red gearboxes and hubs scream TLO1. Try and post a pic.

[MNrally]

It sounds a lot like at TA02, since Tamiya did sell an escort body with it at one point.

[Soya]

Oh yeah, did you mean a shaft down the middle or at the side?

[WheelNut]

Well after driving this car for the first time out in the dirt, I have realized. Rally cars arent for me. They are much to unstable to take the bumps I go through, and this one couldnt jump for anything. ALos I think the suspension was to stiff, but oh well. I'll just take the TC3 back to being a on-road only car :)

[Soya]

It might just be the car, my RS4 is awesome in the dirt. Try softer springs and thinner oil.

[DJ BlendeR]

this was chalked full of useless info now that I found the ebay site, so check my next post.

[DJ BlendeR]

Ok, I posted a link, and then it didn't work, but, it says in the description its a TAO1, kit 58113, I don't know if thats its item number or production number. He says its a rare car. It has the original body, tires, wheels, and everything in the chassis as well. Both the body and chassis have never been run. So is this truly a rare find? Is $127.50 a good price? Lastly, if you wanna see pics of this beauty, search ebay's advanced search for the the item number 1739821595 . If you do that, tell me what you think.

[pinky8u]

anyone have a hpiRS4 rally roller that would trade for a pro2 roller? thanks

[pinky8u]

go to the traders forum and talk there. thanks

[Soya]

That was........strange:confused:

[DJ BlendeR]

No replies to my last post??? Anyone?

[Soya]

Sorry, too lazy:p

[Soya]

STILL waiting for my BL:( :mad:

[93SRV]

FINALLY!!

I've been looking far and wide to get my chat on about some off-road car RC action.. there is NO support anywher eon the net for it. I have a Tb01 Rally (heavy gears, full bearing set) with the 2001 WRX rally body. I'm looking for some setup advice.. I've really beat this in stock mode and i can say that it is TOUGH. i'm getting some hop ups including the rally rear stabalizer, long suspension set, and the metal motor mount.. can anyone that has rally'd a TB01 make any suggestions??

I've heard good thing about getting the on-road spring set to use up front while keeping the back at a soft ride but i find my rear suspension is sagging more than the front therfor bottoming out more. any ideas?

let me know.. i'm glad i found you guys!

[93SRV]

damn, did i get all excited for nothing here?

where is all the rally talk?

i figure i can't slide my prelude in the dirt sideways around corners so i might as well do it in 1/10 form. haha.

Also


I'm thinking, just to be on the safe side, that I may put a bit of mesh grille into a cutout over the motor, just to allow a little more air to get in and out. I just don't want to jeopardize the structural integrity of the inner body or its ability to keep dirt out.


This works really well, my TB came with the chassis cover but there were some gaps inbetween the inner body and the chassis that some dirt was getting in so i sealed it all with more hard sponge material, and then fully sealed all holes and i have a cutout right above the motor with a 1x1 inch square of the same sponge material so all the air gets in but no dust.

[sixandeightstringer]

Instead of a sponge, I was planning on using pieces cut out of a standard household HVAC air filter; not only would it keep the dust out while maintaining maximum airflow, they only cost like 99 cents at KMart... :)

[93SRV]

that's an awesome idea..

i had mine out (with all the stock motor and MSC in it) and the sponge worked pretty damn good. i'd say kept a good 95% of dust out but after 3 packs there was some build up inside.

let me know how yours works out.

and of you rally sedan guy have any problems with gravel inpairing your steering? any solutions?

[Soya]

Not from pebbles. For some reason, the left bellcrank rubs the drive belt when turning full left. I don't have dual rates or endpoints, either:(

[93SRV]

solution, get a shaft drive :)
hehe, just kidding. my friend's sport 2 does
circles around my brick-on-wheels.. haha.

[Soya]

I just drove it today with the BL, MY GOD IS IT FAST:D

[talon51]

Whats up rally fans??!!

I also have an RS4 Rally, and its my favorite car. I also have about $400 in performance hopups in it.

Anyway, Soya, I was wondering where you anchored the upright braces on your car and what length the rods are? I'd like to try this mod on my car because you're right, it does have a lot of flex in the front suspension.

Any of you guys use the HPI Rally Forum?

Talon

[93SRV]

damn Soya, that's a hella nice piece of machinery you got there! where's the body for it? you guys and your nice RS4's... RRRRrrr

[Soya]

Talon51--What stuff did you upgrade? I've got aluminum hub carriers, T6 chassis I made, graphite stuff I made, lots o stuff:D The links are 1" long, but I drilled the holes any old place, so it'll differ. No, I haven't tried the HPI forum.
93SRV--The body's trashed now. I'm still savin' for the Saleen S7. Here's a pic of it before it got thrashed:)

[93SRV]

Nice! very nice!
but rallye bodies are suppose to be messed! :)

you should see my WRX.. i have electrical tape holding
it together.. haha.

[Soya]

I'll post a pic tonight of my Civic body. It's torn to shreads. And the Impreza '98 before that, unrecognizable:)

[talon51]

Cool, sounds like an easy mod. I was thinking I could probably replace the upper kingpins and screws attaching the upper deck to the chassis with ball studs kinda like on my XXX-S and save myself from having to drill and tap more holes, unless it limits my suspension travel.

At least our bodies last more than a few stages, unlike the real rally cars who have to replace their front facias and skip plates every couple of stages. Thats pretty darn expensive!!

I have these hopups on my car, nothing too fancy, but they get the job done a heck of a lot better.
>HPI woven graphite upper deck
>graphite rear shock tower, I used to have graphite up front, but I cracked it during a race and haven't replaced it yet.
>RRP onepiece Aluminum topshaft
>Slipper clutch
>Heatsink motor plate
>Graphite belt tensioner
>Lundsford Punisher Ti. turnbuckles
>Steel ball studs
>MIP Aluminum CVDs
>Aluminum Shocks (front only, so far)
>teflon shock pistons
>there's probalbly one or two other things I forgot to mention, I'm at college and my cars aren't:( :( .
>I also own a RS4 MT (electric) which I'm trying to sell, a Super Nitro Rally, a XXX-S, and a XXX-NT.

No wonder I drive a 91 Ford explorer with 301000 miles on it!!

later,
Talon

[Soya]

That's alotta miles!
I was thinking of getting the RRP top shaft. I seem to break crosspins a lot. And the pulleys are pretty chewed. Sorry, I'll post a pic tomorrow, I'm a bit tired;)

[Albertt]

I've noticed that most of you are running RS4s, a belt driven car. I run a TA04, my friends a TL01 and a RS4 Sport2. For some reason, I think due to the tight clearances inside the diff bulkheads, I've chewed up a pair of belts after running a little rally race we set up on a baseball field. Since replacing the belts, I've avoided dirt like the plague, but lately, it's been calling to me. I've thought about buying a used TC3 or TB01, but before I go that route, I was wondering if any of you guys/gals had methods of keeping debris out of the chassis and driveline. Any way to make a Lexan tub of sorts?

Thanks
AL

[93SRV]

Albertt, ya might be looking at a home-made job here. I know that tamiya made a bathtub chassis that could easily be covered for the Ta03, but not (yet) for the 04. There's gotta be a way though.. you'd have to sacrifice the current lower deck to some.. umm.. interesting modifications that'd probablly be permanent but i imagine it can be done.

Does you friend with the sport 2 have any belt troubles in the dirt? that's what my friend races but tarmac only and i've been trying to get him to get all dirty with it.

Soya, do you break many belts with your RS4? i mean, those pictures are pretty crazy, looks like it doesn't really see pavement much (a good thing :D )

[Soya]

I've broken the rear belt once, and that's it. The front belt has a nice chunk out of it, though. Had it for years:)

[talon51]

My car is a year and a half old and the belts look like they're brand new, if you don't know there's supposed to be writing on them...

[Albertt]

ya might be looking at a home-made job here. I know that tamiya made a bathtub chassis that could easily be covered for the Ta03, but not (yet) for the 04. There's gotta be a way though.. you'd have to sacrifice the current lower deck to some.. umm.. interesting modifications that'd probablly be permanent but i imagine it can be done

I tried making "walls" on each side of the chassis by servo taping lexan pieces. Dirt and debris still make their way in.

Does you friend with the sport 2 have any belt troubles in the dirt? that's what my friend races but tarmac only and i've been trying to get him to get all dirty with it.

His car got beat up a bit, and you can see a little damage on his belts, but since the diff bulkheads are not as tightly packed, the pebbles and debris probably had enough room to move around and fall through. The TA04 bulkheads are tight, so lots of pebbles got jammed between the belt and the inner walls of the bulkheads, severely damaging my belts and scoring up the inner walls. Also, my Kimbrough spur gear (48 pitch) had damage that caused it to mesh improperly, resulting in a grinding noise. I swapped in a new one and the noise went away. Nothing happened to my friend's Sport 2 spur gear (stock HPI).

I'm still thinking about buying a used TA02 or TB01 for the dirty stuff.

[Soya]

Yeah, my stock spur on the rally has last years; all my others: about 2 weeks.

[93SRV]

Can anybody who's raced dirt tracks (buggies or cars) post what they think is the best diff setup for dirt? I mean, you wanna have oversteer in the dirt so is that more loose in the front diff and tight in the rear diff?
Any comments are greatly appreciated on what you think works best.

[Albertt]

and that oversteer/understeer was to be corrected for by suspension tuning. My Lazer had a slipper clutch as well, so there was no need for diff slippage to prevent tire spin off the line.

[talon51]

I agree with Albertt, you can tune over/understeer with suspension tuning, not with diff adjustments. If you set your diffs to loose, they will be junk in no time. As a general rule of thumb, set your diffs so that you cannot turn the diff pulley when both outdrives are locked.

[rookie12]

Originally posted by sixandeightstringer
The Losi Rally car is based on the Street Weapon Sedan, which in turn was based on the XX4 (4wd buggy) so I guess you can see the "bugginess" in the chassis; but it's very durable and fast. Totally worth the $70 I paid for it, brand new.

Talk to Dad - they still can be found for around $80 brand new.





the cheapest one ive found is 120 bucks:mad:

[Soya]

Both of my diffs are locked in my RS4.

[Albertt]

Locked...do you mean that you yanked out the diff balls and tightened it all the way down?

Am I correct to assume that those guys who pack their gear diffs with extremely thick grease are trying to achieve something close to a locked diff?

[93SRV]

Soya, what are the benifits of locking both diffs for dirt racing? (just curious)

*edit* oh, and about the oversteer/undcersteer issue.. i realize that the best way to fix it is tuning your suspension but i've also heard AFTER you've done that, it's good to play with your diffs to really make it relaly handle the way you it to.

[Soya]

The RS4 has gear diffs, buddy. I filled them with epoxy. Benefit? TRACTION=ACCELERATION:D

[Albertt]

Soya: So if you're running locked diffs all the time, how does it handle turns when traction is higher?

93SRV: Are you planning on ball diffs for your TB01? In the front OR back, or front AND back?

[93SRV]

Soya: So if you're running locked diffs all the time, how does it handle turns when traction is higher?

That's what i wanna know.. how it performs in turns in the dirt..


93SRV: Are you planning on ball diffs for your TB01? In the front OR back, or front AND back?

i don't think i'm switching to ball diffs just yet.. just gonna use a thicker grease for now and see how that goes. As for the front/rear.. well, i'm not quite sure.. that's what my original question was up top (how the different ends effect steering in dirt).

[Soya]

Steering? There's too much. WAYYYYYYY too much. As in serious oversteer too much:D

[Soya]

Rah, rah, shish koom bah!!

[93SRV]

i hear dat!


what do you guys usually use for gearing setup?

for a 5 min run? top speed?

[Albertt]

EDIT: My car is a TB01.

Which spur and pinion combo should I use for a 19T triple?

Thanks
AL

[Timmy]

If it is a HPI rally I am guessing you can use 27 or 28. I am not totally sure thought. I was tring to post in the T3 forum but I did hear so I had to write what I though was the best answer. Good luck.

[Aluma]

i got a Ta03-r that you guys can use for test bed, project whatever...it has the graphite chassis. Pm me if ya interested.

[evader32]

Does any body want to trade a losi rally weapon or a hpi rs4 rally for a rc10 GT w/.12 engine? E-mail for details if your interested!

[Soya]

*cough*cough*cough*

[Soya]

Bless you.

[talon51]

lol, somebody start something to b.s. over...maybe soya will get better.:D

[Soya]

LMAO!!:D

[BLiND]

Hey guys, I just stumbled upon this thread...

jeez and I thought I was the only "weird person" who owns an RS4 rally and is my favorite R/C car (or one of the top 3, lol)

http://kevint.is-a-geek.net/RC/rally1.jpg
http://kevint.is-a-geek.net/RC/rally2.jpg

Nothing major on my rally, as there is no racing class for it at my track and so, no reason to hop up its performance.

just different springs, 28t pinion gear, 19t trinity mod motor, novak explorer sport esc, radio is a hitec FM. Oooh and it has a carbon fiber upper deck thingy too, that totally stiffened the chassis, so much that I don't see a need for a graphite lower deck at all.

the body is uninteresting, just a blue suby, like everybody else with an rs4 rally, lol!

[Soya]

Sweet :)

[sixandeightstringer]

We've got a ton of Rally pics - unlike "BLiND," we have a good rally class at a couple of our local tracks... Check out our photo gallery; for rally-specific shots, look in the Barnstormers folder (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=6), the Checkerboard folders (#1 (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=16) and #2 (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=15)), the BMX folder (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=7), the Cooper River Rally folder (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=8) - and we even have a combined folder of some of the better shots (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=10).

Rally Rules!

http://www.sixfoottiger.com/images/gallery/153.jpg

[talon51]

Yeah BARNSTORMERS!!! I hear the rally class is starting up again down there, too bad I can't come down there and race until after the big rally **ONLY** Race on the 16th, I have finals til the 21st:( But I'll definitely be down over Thanksgiving break for some rally action. I can't wait to see my RC cars again!!

BTW, any of you guys have SNRs?? I have one, but it needs a new engine. I bought it used and the engine wore out 2 tanks after I got it!:mad: :mad: I'll never buy a used car again.

Later,
Talon

[sixandeightstringer]

But I'll definitely be down over Thanksgiving break for some rally action.

If you're up for the trip, we've got a huge race going on on the 24th - the "Turkey Race" at Checkerboard Raceway (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/checker.cfm) in Hammonton NJ. You'll never find a cooler rally track (tho Barnstormers is really cool!)

[Clod_Killer]

So how did the race go? Its cool to hear about the rally racing. I want to get back into it again, might have to do up a Nitro 3 rally.

[sixandeightstringer]

Sorry - I'm a dolt... I mean the 24th of NOVEMBER. You've still got time to get it together and truck down to race with us!

[evader32]

I was wunderin if you guys new if you can make a xxx-s into a rally car thanx

[BLiND]

yea, sell it on eBay and use the cash to buy a rally car

(my rally was $74 shipped on eBay-used)

heck, I bought 2, got another one for $90 that had never been run, lol

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by evader32
I was wunderin if you guys new if you can make a xxx-s into a rally car thanx

Check this out: http://www.sixfoottiger.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=142

[fastharry]

I ran an HPI rally last year at the barn......been thinking of a tc3 rally this year..Why?.....cause I love ny tc3 nitros..and my HPI SS isn't evn close to them in any department...so I figure,what the heck...go associated....

has anyone driven both cars and have any side by side comparisons?....

also,any thoughts on HPI's Pirelli rally tires?

[SteveK]

I'm intrigued by the TC3 Rally, but the HPI Rally is STOUT. The arms are thick and fairly stiff, the chassis is really tough, and it has a lot of suspension travel. As long as you use at least the under-side shell, it will be pretty well sealed from the elements. It's basically an off-road buggy with short arms.

[sixandeightstringer]

...which is why the Rally Weapon from Losi is also a great car... it was essentially the XX-4 4WD buggy with shorter arms.

And my new XXX-R conversion should also be a strong contender... :)

[Soya]

Yeah, the RS4 is pretty tough. Did break the chassis on my garage, though:p

[talon51]

Yea, the RS4 Rally can take just about anything, but over time, the main chassis will wear out. I broke a chassis last year, February, I think, during a race at the Barn. It broke right behind the cut out for the motor where it attaches to the rear bulkhead.

The XXX-R chassis will be UNBREAKABLE, unless you plan to jump off a high-rise building!!! That chassis will not budge when subject to hard impacts, your front diff cover might though. I saw that happen to one of the Team Trinity guys over the summer. He hit the wall head-on and the whole front section came off, exposing the diff and everything.

Talon

[fastharry]

anything othetv though's on tyhe tc3 Rally?

[talon51]

:confused:What??? :confused:

[fastharry]

any other thoughts on the associated tc3 rally vs. the HPI rally....

[sixandeightstringer]

http://www.sixfoottiger.com/images/gallery/943.jpg

My XXX-R in its debut. Had some handling issues; namely, it hooked badly in left hand turns. Gotta do some tuning... Overall: fast and sturdy, though!

[Soya]

Originally posted by talon51
It broke right behind the cut out for the motor where it attaches to the rear bulkhead.

Mine too!! Hence the aluminum one:D

[93SRV]

my tb01 is all over the freakin place with the steering..
i'm trying different things but it's just nuts..

over-over-oversteer ! any suggestions on lockings diffs, suspension, toe-in/out camber setups for short arm suspension?

any help please !

other than that, it's a damn tank and i'm lovin it !

[Soya]

If you want less steering, DO NOT lock the diffs! You'll have so much steering, you won't know what do to with it.
More toe-in in the back will stabilize things a bit. stiffer front springs, also.

[SteveK]

The long-span suspension kit should help improve handling greatly, and reduce the skittishness than can result from the short stock arms.

[talon51]

One thing that I found will eliminate oversteer very simply is to limit your steering servo travel. I had a problem like this with my RS4 Rally, it was very twitchy and would spin out extremely easily, and to fix it, I limited my steering servo as a starting point to take the twitchiness out of the car, and then tuned the suspension from there.

Later,
Talon

[Clod_Killer]

sixandeightstringer, good looking track. Bet its a blast to run on.

Anyone know who owns www.rcrally.com? The site is nice, but its been dead since the first of last year!

[sixandeightstringer]

Originally posted by Clod_Killer
sixandeightstringer, good looking track. Bet its a blast to run on.

That's our regular touring program; we set up bi-weekly in a local parking lot. We decided to run a wacky rally stage, and one of the racers custom built the ramps and bumps...

If you want to see our FAVORITE rally track, check out this photo gallery: http://www.sixfoottiger.com/admin/index.cfm?fuseaction=admin.party_pix_view&partyid=16

We're having a huge race there on the 24th... anyone within a couple of hours of Southern New Jersey who likes to run rally (or off-road of just about any type, including 8th scale) should contact me for details and directions - this race is a BLAST every year!

http://www.sixfoottiger.com/images/gallery/443.JPG


Click here --> for more track info (http://www.sixfoottiger.com/checker.cfm)

[SteveK]

The site www.rcrally.com was run by I think DKOV and RallySteve and a few others from the now-dead HPI Rally Forum. That was one of the busiest, most friendly forums I've seen anywhere, and it's a real shame all the jerks and losers on that forum killed it for most of those guys: DKOV, RallySteve, and Buck-O all left the forum, at least for full-time, in the last year or so. Now HPI has killed their old message board forever.

[Clod_Killer]

Yeah, I have been checking out the rally forums over there since the Rally came out. Its a shame. It would be nice to get that site going again, and since HPI forums are dead, maybe add a rally only forum to that site. I wanted to make my own site, but that one is set up really nice, its a shame to see it go to waste. Any way to get a hold of those guys and see if we can get something together?

[sixandeightstringer]

If you guys want to come over to our forum, we have a dedicated rally forum topic - http://www.sixfoottiger.com - feel free to drop by!

[93SRV]

thanks for the info on the steering guys !
i'll definantly be using it..

[navspecwar]

just lettin yall know that i've defected - i got an SNR:D

[Soya]

Whoa! Welcome back!:D

[talon51]

SNRs RULE!!! Mine just needs a new engine...


Talon

[momosport]

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MOmo

[Soya]

Shooka shooka ka BOOM!

[Laxman]

Hey Soya, how did you make up that aluminum rally chassis? and do you have a spare to sell?

[Soya]

3mm aluminum, Jigsaw, and a Dremel. I don't have a spare, but I might be willing to sell you the original. It's a bit rough around the edges, if you know what I mean.

[Laxman]

I'm gonna have to pass on it....trying to dumo money into a new project I have going. I'm trying to get my RS4 Pro to go past 70!

[DIrTjUNkie]

Picked up a TB-01
http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/rc/electric/110scale/tb01/images/58271/header.jpg

and practiced with it at Socal Raceway, this thing rocks out of the box! using a P2k (rebuild) and proline rally tires and she's pretty much hooked..It was kinda fun slicin through trucks and buggies, clearin doubles, and creatin some good laughs too..(since I was the only rally car out there) :D

Cant wait to go again!

[holshotracer]

what tires seem to work the best in loose dirt and mud. my home made tires are starting to wear out.

[DIrTjUNkie]

Im running the proline rally boss's for loosed dirt as well as packed.....can say what to use for mud though, havent taken it yet!


Ray

[sixandeightstringer]

I hear the Tamiya Rally Blocks are great for mud... For loose dirt, I've had good luck with the harder compound HPI tires or the Rally Boss from ProLine...

[holshotracer]

i think that i might try the rally blocks because they look like they would last longer. and way i run my rally the HPIs would look like Soya's;)

[Soya]

BIIIIIIIIIG Pimpin':D

[Soya]

More Pimpin':D

[momosport]

Originally posted by sixandeightstringer
I hear the Tamiya Rally Blocks are great for mud... For loose dirt, I've had good luck with the harder compound HPI tires or the Rally Boss from ProLine...

Im not sure i would get into too much mud, but the Rally blocks are a good off road and gravel. As for hard packed clay, I use a set of really worn hpi soft tires w/ medium inserts. Wear the "spikes" down to smooth bumps and they seem to work great! I also have a set of modified Holeshots ( 2.2 4wd tires for XX4 ) that were cut and narrowed and glued to touring rims. These seem to work on hard tracks that are loosening up. I also tend to favor the Rally Tires from Proline.

The site www.rcrally.com was run by I think DKOV and RallySteve and a few others from the now-dead HPI Rally Forum. That was one of the busiest, most friendly forums I've seen anywhere, and it's a real shame all the jerks and losers on that forum killed it for most of those guys: DKOV, RallySteve, and Buck-O all left the forum, at least for full-time, in the last year or so. Now HPI has killed their old message board forever.

Steve, the site was all DKOV. That was his baby his brainchild. He had contributions from all of us, but it was his web site. yeah, the old Rally Forum will be missed, but out of the ashes, so rises the Phoenix. People just need to use maturity and be respectful of others.

Yeah, i miss Buck-O. I wonder what ever became of him? I live near DKOV and RallySteve and both are involved in other hobbies. RS into paintball and DKOV is into full sized race cars. last I heard he was looking into getting a race preped Ferrari. As if his Lotus wasn't enough fun!


MOmo

[greenmuse]

i miss the old hpi forum,it was such a valuable source of information.being around there helped me out so much.if it wasnt for hpi's forum,i doubt i would have spent the extra money to buy one of their rally cars.

i love the rally blocks,they work great for mud,for the longest time my rally never saw dry ground,they work well,and are pretty long lived.they certainly look impressive too.

[holshotracer]

MOmo
could you show a pic of those holeshot tires. i've read that Kinwald does that to tires but i want to see how he does it.

[momosport]

Originally posted by holshotracer
MOmo
could you show a pic of those holeshot tires. i've read that Kinwald does that to tires but i want to see how he does it.

I can tell you its NOT EASY! I don't have pics, but i will try and get some. I placed a phonecall to DKOV and i will see if he still has pics of his tires. If not, i can hit up Q45Guy and see if he can snap some pics. If i can do it, i will post a thread on step by step how to modify the tires however ** INSERT DISCLAIMER ** ( I am not going to be responcible for damage done to RC Tires if you mess up.)

In a nut shell, you will need to cut out the width (accross the tire to narrow it down to fit a Touring rim and you may need to narrow it to fit as well. )

I tried working out something in paint, and if i can get it good enough i will post a Diagram.

Hold off till I can post pics and explain it better.



MOmo

[ND4SPDR]

Hey all. I got a Losi Rally Weapon recently. I love this car! It has traction as long as its on power, but give it a little nudge, and it transitions into a beautiful drift. Maybe all 4WD's do this, but this car is unbeleiveable. It's stock, running a Futaba MC230CR esc and an old Trinity Midnight 2 Pro motor. I did a rather lame, but effective, stick pack conversion you can see here (http://www.marcweb.net/conversion.html). If anybody has belts for the Street Weapon that they're willing to part with, let me know. I'm also working on a site, marcweb.net R/C (http://www.marcweb.net/rc.html), that will eventually have loads of info on the Rally Weapon, although information is hard to find. :rolleyes: By the way, sixandeightstringer, your XXX-R concept is awesome!

Here's one pic with the body on, but go here (http://www.marcweb.net/rally.html) to see a couple more. I'd like to take this moment to challenge all touring car owners to top this:
http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL53/826341/1476847/17817673.jpg
No tape, no extra weight, no gimmicks. Every other wheel is on the ground. I'd have to take the shocks off of my Rustler to get scale articulation like that.

[sixandeightstringer]

The Rally Weapon is a great car, I used to have one.

Do yourself a favor and replace the stock Phocus body with some sort of a sedan rally (not hatchback) - the RW tends to nosedive over even small jumps, and the hatchback bodies (Focus, 206, etc.) tend to exxaggerate that effect. Also, search these forums for some posts I've made in the past for common fixes and upgrades for the RW.

[ND4SPDR]

I'm thinking I'm going to go with either an Impreza or an RSX, but I haven't decided yet.

[DIrTjUNkie]

Hey guys, I was at Anaheim Supercross (Carmichael 2nd, Stewart 2nd) last week and me and a bunch of friends busted out some rc cars in the parking lot. We set up a 1 and a half foot hit, now dont forget we are in the parking lot and your landing on blacktop! FLATLAND...No worries with the TB01's, TA02's. Then I was thinkin....let see if I can bust out the TC3 Rally conversion! (your thinkin bad news rite?) To this day I could not believe it! jumped it about 10-13 x's with no breakage!(I could've landed in back of my lifted F150) mind you Im runnin a 13 turn and 3000's:D Yup this thing kicks arse! NE ways cant wait to get off work today to take it to Socal and Rip shizie up!

:cool:
peace!

[holshotracer]

my home made tirs worked ok in the mud. the only problem was the mub was greasey and the chassie of my pure ten alpha would get mud struck to it and stopped the car and the wheels would spin.

[Josh11886]

would it be that harsh on a properly sealed rally car to run it on sand?

[holshotracer]

i would clean it off best i could after getting done running it and check the bearings.

[Janders]

in my TB-01 rally, I just added some doublesided tape(only one side peeled off) to fill & tighten the fit of the body cover. I don't even get dust in there! Someone asked about the oversteer inherent in the chasis earlier, and therre is an easy fix, just swap the C-clamps from the rear , to the frnot shocks. As for the steering slop, I'm still working on an easy fix for that, so far washers have helped a lot. Also the 'low' rear stance of the TB-01 can be changed by flipping the rear upper suspension mount.
I'm still pretty new at this and have no local support/competition


*Any ideas on a good reliable on/off road motor & ESC?

[talon51]

If you want to a top notch ESC, go for the M-troniks M-cubed, its waterproof, and doesn't take up much space. Its pretty expensive though, like $200, but you could probably find one cheaper on Ebay.

[Soya]

I'm fixing up my RS4 for some reason(it's winter). I bought a Team Orion Rush 15D. I'm building a new rear shock tower for it, should be done by tomorrow night. I'll post some pics then.

[holshotracer]

i have a problem with breaking the steering knuckles on my Kyosho pure ten rally. couse it could be that is 20 degrees out side.

[Soya]

Yeah, that's prolly it:)

[holshotracer]

i have to much fun in the snow so i just CA them back together so i can keep running.

[Soya v1.1]

I finished my RS4 buildup. Here's what it looks like now:

[Soya v1.1]

Here's the rear shock tower. It looks weird because I used the double wishbone suspension from the Nitro variant. It's a lot more durable. Thus, the shocks have to be on the front. I don't care what it looks like, as long as it works.

[ND4SPDR]

Ooh, very nice! :)

[Soya v1.1]

Thanks. I'd run it outside, but there's still a bit of snow lying around. Got's some pretty good yank in the hallway, though:D

[holshotracer]

i when to the lhs and looked for other knuckles that i could fit and ended up getting team associated factory team knuckes for the tc3. i had to drill them out for the bearing and cut them down. if i break them i will get JT product alumuim ones.

[fastharry]

just checking in..racin' the HPI rally at teh barn is going OK...I'm currently 5th in the point series..

but heres my problem.....some of the guys are insisting I'd be even faster with a Rally weapon.....

do you guys thing that car is way better than the hpi?....like I said,my car runs well.....


but I learned from nitro racing,sometimes its not ALL driver..sometimes it IS the car(esp when you go from HPI Racer2's and an SS to tc3 nitro's)...

any thoughts on this..????

and also,since I live to be different.....How does the tc3 rally work,esp compared to the losi?(and also teh HPI)...and remember,I'm racing only..not playing...

[talon51]

Hey Harry, whats happening??!! Don't tell me you're thinking of coping out and going to Losi or AE!! Who the heck made you think of that?? Stick w/ HPI...

Anyway, hows the point series going, is Lemin winning all the races again? He's just too damn good. How are the rest of the rally regulars doing?

We've got an RC club going here at college, we're gonna be racing touring cars and 1:12th onroad, and eventually Nitro TCs, and we had an awesome photo shoot with my rally car over the weekend. I had some awesome jumps, but on what would be the last jump, I broke my chassis right behind the battery holder...I'll attach some pics. I also had one sick 7 foot long jump, it was awesome.

Here ya go...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/pbf4f14e5fae0a807854009cd40265d0f/fcc0ca52.jpg
No, this one is not photoshopped, thats what happens when you use a high speed strobe flash...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/p586c6a0af06a31f561d1b73d4151dd98/fcc0ca48.jpg
THE HUGE AIR...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/p5f951ae35f24ba418be3c32c5687cb69/fcc0ca4d.jpg[/url]
And the breakage:
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/pcf89bf5481f1270bb356647f36a05a8b/fcc0ca47.jpg

Well, thats all for now, until I get a new chassis...
Later,
Garrison
Talon51

[RS4rally1124]

man sweat pics. i love my rally and i am currently reparing it to go out in the snow. i was just wondering where you position your elecs. i cant seem to find a good spot.


Thanx
JT

[ginshun]

Here is a pic of my TB-01 after some snow running this weekend. There is not a single drop of water in the inner body where the electronics are.

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=864557

[holshotracer]

just got done running mine with the new knuckles and they give me more steering and the car has a locked diff in the rear. i couldn't run this weeked because we got so much snow. i would get a running start and hit a bank and when the car would come down it would disapear because of the snow.

[holshotracer]

hey talon
u should let Soya make u one of his killer chassis.:D

[talon51]

I was thinking about it, but, my university has a bunch of machine shops and a CNC lathe, so I was thinking of making my own. The only problem would be that a broken chassis is out of spec and I'd need a new one to copy...we'll see, I might go graphite.

[Soya v1.1]

Best go with aluminum, I broke a graphite one, also.

[talon51]

How much weight do you think the Alum adds? What thickness would you recommend, I was thinking 2-2.5mm.

Thanks
Talon

[ND4SPDR]

Here's Talon's "Huge Air!!!" pic, since the one in his post doesn't seem to work...
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid47/p5f951ae35f24ba418be3c32c5687cb69/fcc0ca4d.jpg
Ouch. I can see how you broke your chassis.

[talon51]

Too bad we didn't get a shot of the 7 foot long jump I did a few runs before that one...that was probably the one that started the break, and the last one just finished it off.