HPI RS4 3/RS4 3 SS forum

[AuDiO(pH)ilE]

This is dedicated to the new version 3.

Just to clarify... this is the DIRECT DRIVE version. NO MORE BELT DRIVE!

Lets have some people's opinions!

[JasonB]

Just picked mine up today..............Love It!!!!!
2 Thumbs up..........gotta love the shaft drive :)

[RS4rally1124]

is the rs4 3 better than the racer 2??????????


JT

[RoadRunnerSpeed]

i bought a viper rs4 3 yesturday. i went to my local park to break in the eninge. after 50 billon pulls and blisters on my fingers(ouch),engine started up. after the 6th tank i started to tune the engine. i was surprise that this engine is pretty fast.

im glad i made this purchase and so far the only faults i see in the car is the steering servo and the am radio. i will definitely upgrade to a fm radio.

[JasonB]

road runner .....are you new to nitro? you are supposed to tune the engine to starting conditions before you start it? Also did you prime it? If you did these things I cant see why it took you so long to get it started. Mine started 3rd pull. I was surprised quicker than my O.S. in my GT. I ran a few tanks through it and it runs great. one of the easiest to tune engines I've seen lately.:)

[RoadRunnerSpeed]

im not new to nitro but im also no expert. i once owend a nitro 4 tec. i think what gave me problems was the freezing cold.

now the engine starts up 2 to 5 pulls... wooohooo :) :) :)

jason, i also agree that this engine is very easy to tune.
trxpro .15 vs .15fe= .15fe wins :) :) :) :)

[JasonB]

ahhhh.....freezing cold could cause problems:(
Good to hear problem solved:)

I was told to buy the 4 tec over this car.....no offense but I deffinately think the RS4 is much better. Also I am running a JR XR2 radio, ans swapped out the HPI servos For Hi-speed JR servos, it mad for a nice upgrade;) Enjoy your new toy!:)

[GregUnd]

I've had mine for about 4 weeks now. Its a nice car, BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT PARTS FIT IT! Its real wierd the way it works. Some parts from one car will fit while other dont. Can't use rear exauhst engines.....or atleast yet, because the engine faces a different direction being shaft driven, they dont make an adapter for it yet.

[StevePond]

I just got finished testing one for the mag. I think it's a great car. I fully intend to modify one of these when a few more option parts become available. Just curious Greg, which parts didn't fit that you thought would fit?

A few observations. Definately faster than the RS4 2. I tested both and found the "3" to be about 4 mph faster. It's also quicker. In nearly five seconds, the "3" pulls about 30 feet ahead of the "2." I also REALLY like the shaft drive. I intentionally drove for over an hour in parking COVERED with sand and pebbles. It would have taken out a belt drive car in less than a minute, but the shaft drive didn't have a problem.

[GregUnd]

The C-Hubs off of an RS4 will not fit the "3". Dogbones, cannot find one that fits so I have to use fuel line to keep the dogbone in, the ones I'm using are 50mm and I believe I need 60mm. Basicaly the "3" is an MT using some RS4 parts and racer2 etc... And the big thing is the exauhst, can't be rear on the engine and side on the car. must use side on engine and side on car. So, you have some parts for example that will fist the RS4 and RTR3, but not the MT. Then you got some that will fit the RTR3 that will not fit the MT or racer2 and so forth.

[StevePond]

Originally posted by GregUnd
The C-Hubs off of an RS4 will not fit the "3". Dogbones, cannot find one that fits so I have to use fuel line to keep the dogbone in, the ones I'm using are 50mm and I believe I need 60mm. Basicaly the "3" is an MT using some RS4 parts and racer2 etc... And the big thing is the exauhst, can't be rear on the engine and side on the car. must use side on engine and side on car. So, you have some parts for example that will fist the RS4 and RTR3, but not the MT. Then you got some that will fit the RTR3 that will not fit the MT or racer2 and so forth.

the C-carriers from the RS4 2 do fit. The old arms from the original RS4 have open ends and therefore a different C-carrier design. The suspension arms from the RS4 2 have closed ends where the C-carriers mount, which requires a different C-carrier; the same one shown below that will also fit the RS4 3.

All the suspension parts for the RS4 2 fit the new car. All of the MT drivetrain parts, except the 2-speed and center universal driveshafts also fit the RS4 3.

[NitroRookie]

Would you class this car as a good choice for a First Nitro RC?

[hd_nitro]

Its good for parking-lot bashing.

[StevePond]

Originally posted by NitroRookie
Would you class this car as a good choice for a First Nitro RC?


I think it's an excellent choice.

[TeeGeeRacer]

SteveP, what issue will the review be in? And can we expect a 'Project RS4-3'?

[StevePond]

It will be in the June issue of both magazines, and you can bet on a cool project.

[GregUnd]

Yeah, its an awsome car for a beginner. Its my first nitro car. It'll get a lot better once you start upgrading it. I was starting to get board with mine until I started dumping money into it, now its turning out really nice.

[Archerboi]

I am thinking of getting this car, it looks cool and for the money you can't beat it. I was also wondering if you could make it into a cool Rally car, just make the ride height high, and lift the body up, and there you have a cool gas powered 1/10th scale rally. If it works, I will get 2, one for the street, and one for the dirt. I know HPI makes a gas rally car already, but I think that this would be more scale.

[harley1874666]

does anyone know when the new header and pipe are supposed to be coming out for the RS4 3?

[TeeGeeRacer]

I'm not so sure about the ETA for the HPI pipe/header. But, you can also use the Dynamite inline pipe/header for the T-Maxx. It may be tuned more for lower end punch but it's cool because it uses springs instead of a silicone coupler and zipties.

Or you can just get a T-Maxx header and use almost any pipe you want.

[frontier]

Just got the viper today ! So far so good . I went around the whole car with a screw driver everything was tight . There was one prob though . The steering had a lot of slop in it . so I took apart the steering and found the two screws that hold the tie bar in place were loose . easy fix . going to break in the motor tomorrow.

[NitroRookie]

Post some pics of your RS4 3.

[aphex4000]

The more I read this thread the more I want to get an RS4 RTR 3! :eek:

I'm so tired of cleaning my cars...

[GregUnd]

Originally posted by frontier
Just got the viper today ! So far so good . I went around the whole car with a screw driver everything was tight . There was one prob though . The steering had a lot of slop in it . so I took apart the steering and found the two screws that hold the tie bar in place were loose . easy fix . going to break in the motor tomorrow.

After every half gallon or so, accualy a little less be sure and re-check ALL the screws again. I just ate up a spur gear cause my engine mount screws vibrated loose and scooted over and there went my spur gear. ALso, have to order those. Can't use another, except for maybe the Super Rally's, but dought it. Had to order mine from HPI, gonne get in on Friday. Went ahead and orderd 3 of'em.

[GregUnd]

Originally posted by aphex4000
The more I read this thread the more I want to get an RS4 RTR 3! :eek:

I'm so tired of cleaning my cars...


I just pop out all my electronics, which consist of 3 cotter pins:D and the unscrew my engine and soak it in hot soapy watter. Then hit it up with a tooth brush. I accualy, Armor-All 'ed the tires:D

[GregUnd]

DOH!

[frontier]

hey greg are you using locktite on the threads ?
If not , get some !

[vance scott]

Originally posted by NitroRookie
Post some pics of your RS4 3. COULD NOT 4 2SPEED

[vance scott]

Originally posted by NitroRookie
Post some pics of your RS4 3. PRETTY QUICK W/ OS 15 RX MOTOR W/ 1 SPEED

[StevePond]

Very nice. What engine mounts are you using? Also, you can drill new holes for the retaining spring on the header so it sits lower.

[vance scott]

Originally posted by SteveP
Very nice. What engine mounts are you using? Also, you can drill new holes for the retaining spring on the header so it sits lower. YO STEVE THANKS 4 THAT INFO AND MOTOR MOUNTS I USE ARE OFNA MOUNTS . HOW LONG BEFORE SHAFT 2 SPEED IS RELEASED . HOPE ANOTHER COMPANY INVENTS LIKE ONFA.

[vance scott]

Originally posted by vance scott
YO STEVE THANKS 4 THAT INFO AND MOTOR MOUNTS I USE ARE OFNA MOUNTS . HOW LONG BEFORE SHAFT 2 SPEED IS RELEASED . HOPE ANOTHER COMPANY INVENTS LIKE ONFA. PART NO. FOR MOUNTS 38150

[StevePond]

The two-speed from HPI is already out. It's a cam-type two-speed, which isn't very durable from my past experience, but hopefully someone will make a clutch type for this car.

[frontier]

Hey which glow plugs are you guys running ?
I live in the south where it is always very hot .

thanks for the help

[hd_nitro]

Os A5 or A8 plug is good. A8 is a colder plug.

[StevePond]

I would suggest a McCoy 59 plug or an OS A3. You want a hot plug over a cold one. The hot plug allows a slightly richer mixture than a cold plug. A richer fuel mixture will help cool the engine. The "temperature' of the plug has no relationship to ambient temperatures from the standpoint of using a "colder" plug to cool off the engine.

[Lost Racer1]

Hey vance is that a picco header? I hhave a Mugen Prime 12 and the engine sits the same as the HPI. But I have an Ofna header on mine, but it rubs the rear wheel sometimes. The header you're using looks bent forward a little more to prevent that..Do you have any overhead pics?

[vance scott]

Originally posted by Lost Racer1
Hey vance is that a picco header? I hhave a Mugen Prime 12 and the engine sits the same as the HPI. But I have an Ofna header on mine, but it rubs the rear wheel sometimes. The header you're using looks bent forward a little more to prevent that..Do you have any overhead pics? YES THATS A PICCO PIPE . ILL SEND A PIX SOON

[StevePond]

Guys, when you get a chance, check out the new "SS" version of the RS4 3. Click Here (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77418)

[CrackerGee]

Hey guys! Just lookin at some of the pictures and it looks like most of the parts can be traded from an HPI Nitro MT! I have an NMT and love it! I know all the parts inside and out and that ceter roll bar is the same as well as the center shafts, etc. BTW, I am using the HPI 72082 front center Universal dogbone and the HPI 72083 rear center Universal dogbone. They work well! Also, HPI 72230 Slipper Clutch Set is a must for the the truck...wonder how it will do on the RS4 3.:)

[Stern]

Is the HPI RS4 3 SS gunna be released next month in April or are they gunna ship sooner or what?

I want one really bad. It'll be my first Nitro car. I was looking through that list of Option parts and it looks like with those parts installed it should make it a pretty competitive car to Race with.

I wonder how competitive outta the box it will be?

[Stern]

Hey someone had to start one. :p

So who's gunna get one when they come out in April?

/me Raises his hand.

[pjbaz]

I'm debating like mad between the Nitro SS RS4 and the Super Nitro RS4 Porsche 911. But thart SS is totally cool!


PJBAZ

[clint]

i am lookin at the ad for the rs4 rtr 3 and i was wondering some stuff about it. What is the top speed? Will it be competitive w/o hopups. Will it be durable? And is there alot of hopups for it? Thanks.

[Archerboi]

I am thinking about it. I may get one after my nitro demon is finished up. I like the new SS. Got the 3 speed and a new engine. :) Its perfect. I usually always had Assosiated cars. But maybe its time for a change. Also the NTC3 may be a overkill for me since I will use the car just for parking lots and street running. :D

[phdeez]

Does it come with a 15ss or a 12r ss?

Direct from the website:
[on the right hand side] NEW Nitro Star 15SS engine with pullstart with over one hp!

[according to the text] The big news is that we added our brand new Nitro Star 12R SS pullstart engine


Check the
link (http://www.hpiracing.com/kits/nitro3-m.htm) to see what I'm talking about...

[Stern]

It comes with the 12R SS. The 15SS to the right is an error.

[frontier]

well I have read that it only goes 30 to 35 mph ina few mags but I think this is a little low . I have had mine for three weeks now and I race with friends with cars that are supposed to be faster like the 4-tec and the ofna cars all with two speed trans and they take me out of the hole ( mainly because of the one needle carb ) but on top end i am right with them . I just don't have the low end punch they do . I feel with a two needle carb and a two speed trans I could eaisly beat them ! Not to mention every two or three races they get stuck with rocks in their belts :p . I love this car and can't wait for the hop ups . I already ordered the twospeed and tried to order the carb but they are ou tof stock .

Lata

[frontier]

Here is a pic

[clint]

what is the difference between an hpi rs4 rtr 3 and a hpi rs4 ss or what ever? and in RCCA ther is an advertisement for the rs4 rtr 3 and so i looked on tower and they said it would be available april, and you guys are talkin bout already havn one and i just don't understand. someone please help me.

[frontier]

The SS is not out yet . It will come with a hot 12 engine with 2 speed trans . It will also be more adjustable than the regular rs4 3 . It will not come pre built nor will it have any rodio equip .
This is the link to the site
http://www.hpiracing.com/usa/index.htm

[T/Losi]

I know this forum might be able to go under the RS4 3 RTR but there is a difference. Who here is waiting for it to come out? I will be getting one whenever it comes to Australia and I can't want to test the engine out. When you get yours post pics and comments in this forum. :cool:

[InsaneRc]

Got one on order now can't wait for it to come in.:cool:

[Stern]

Originally posted by athowells
I know this forum might be able to go under the RS4 3 RTR but there is a difference.

Heheh, you got that right, because the Difference is that this is NOT an RTR. It's a regular Kit that happens to come with an Engine (No radio in this kit).

I havn't placed my order for one yet but I will be at the end of Apr.

[Spidermaxx]

I can't wait to get one !!! I have been racing my T-maxx for amost a year now and I want to move onto on-road touring class.

This will be my 1st car.

Any updates on the release date ????

[Spidermaxx]

I was about to place my order for the RS4 rtr 3 when they annouced the kit verision. Now I am waiting and waiting and waiting ..... Any update on when the release date will be????

SteveP, Ridgefield, CT ehhh.... Me too !!! I live in town and can be found at any of the local ball fields with my Sky Scooter or T-maxx at any given time. Maybe I will run into you one day !!!

Spider

[Y2KSaInT]

Umm this might be a stupid question, but can someone PLEASE! tell me if the RTR 3 or the RS4 SS can take a rear exhaust? :confused:

Thanks! :D

[Y2KSaInT]

Umm this might be a stupid question, but can someone PLEASE! tell me if the RTR 3 or the RS4 SS can take a rear exhaust? :confused:

Thanks! :D

[Cosmo]

As far as I can see, fitting rear exhaust engine will work okay, but I'm not sure if anyone makes a manifold the right shape to fit. Also, you may have clearance problems with the right rear tire.

[somedude2187]

yes rear exhaust engines will fit clearance isn't an issue i've seen them in nitro mts and snrs.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXTB62&P=7

[StevePond]

Finding a proper exhaust header may be a problem right now. I don't know of anyone that makes a 180-degree header for rear exhaust engines. I'm sure one will be available soon, but I haven't seen one yet.

[Spidermaxx]

SteveP : talk to me where do you live in Ridgefield and where do you run your cars????? It is not everyday that I meet someone else from Ridgefield, CT on these forums. Then again I am new to this forum, but I have been on others for a long time.

I have been looking to get the HPI Rs4 nitro ss kit or the Megatech Razor XT. Any opinions

[CTRallyRacer2]

SpiderMaxx... ride up to Enfield, CT. and race at RC Madness. Big on-road track and off-road track. I've pretty much dumped all my on-road stuff and got into 1:8th scale off-road. I'm thinking of coming back to on-road in the 2wd category.... unsure though.

[Spidermaxx]

CTRallyRacer2:
I have been thinking about making a trip up to Enfield... Right now I only have a T-maxx. I am waiting for the SS kit to come out, this will be my 1st car. Do they race T-maxx's up there ? If not I am going to wait until after I get the kit up and running before driving up there.

Cool to see other CT people here...

Also I have heard that there is going to be a new track opening up in Stamford, CT. Both on-road and off-road racing. Should be open to the public within the Month of May !!! I spoke to the owner last week. I think there website is www.no2racer.50-megs.com (not sure about the website).

[Spidermaxx]

Sorry wrong website try this www.no2pro.50megs.com

The site doesn't have much info on it, but if you go to the "trackside" tab there is mention of the new track. Not much to see, but the Idea of a local track has me excitied !!!

[MaxxThrasher]

So.........here it is the 1st of May and still no word on when the SS will hit the stores.

Anybody?

:confused:

[CTRallyRacer2]

They have a large T/E -Maxx class. Usually between 8-12 or more racers on the Maxx side alone (usually two heats).

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by SteveP
Finding a proper exhaust header may be a problem right now. I don't know of anyone that makes a 180-degree header for rear exhaust engines. I'm sure one will be available soon, but I haven't seen one yet. I THINK THAT PICCO PIPE IS ABOUT THE CLOSES THING OUT THERE TO FIT. YOU SEEN MY RTR3 STEVE W/ THE OS 15 BIG BLOCK RX IM RUNNING 21 PINION W/ THAT 47TEETH SPUR.

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by DUUMDUDE
I THINK THAT PICCO PIPE IS ABOUT THE CLOSES THING OUT THERE TO FIT. YOU SEEN MY RTR3 STEVE W/ THE OS 15 BIG BLOCK RX IM RUNNING 21 PINION W/ THAT 47TEETH SPUR. ALSO WHAT IS THE DEAL W/ HPI 46 2 SPEED SPUR GEARS FOR THE RS-4? YOU SEEN THE RTR-3 2 SPEED IN PERSON YET ?.

[Spidermaxx]

I know that I am new here but....... I HATE CAPS LOCK !!!!

Anyway, Counting down the days until the SS kit comes out. I can't wait. I already have a couple of bodys picked out for it and paint schemes prepared. I am currently shopping for a Radio for it and I am leaning towards the JR xr2. Any other suggestions on quaility affordable radios are welcomed.

SteveP: I am starting to think that you don't like me or something, still no respones from you??? I thought that a Fellow Ridgefielder would at least say HI or something.....

[MaxxThrasher]

Spidey,

That sounds like the combo i'm going to go with also. I've been procrastinating on purchasing a touring car but now believe the SS is the way i'm gonna go. To my knowledge, I can't think of a better radio for the money then the XR2.

Steve is a moderator of the BB and also writes for RCCA magazine. I'm sure he stays pretty busy, but as soon as he catches on to your messages, I'm sure he'll answer.

Hey, why don't you search out RCCA head quarters and check 'em out! Hehehe.

"JMO"

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by Spidermaxx
I know that I am new here but....... I HATE CAPS LOCK !!!!

Anyway, Counting down the days until the SS kit comes out. I can't wait. I already have a couple of bodys picked out for it and paint schemes prepared. I am currently shopping for a Radio for it and I am leaning towards the JR xr2. Any other suggestions on quaility affordable radios are welcomed.

SteveP: I am starting to think that you don't like me or something, still no respones from you??? I thought that a Fellow Ridgefielder would at least say HI or something..... :D OK CAPS! If your going to race by yourself JR's XR2 will be find, other then that you need to go FM or PCM if your running with more 5 people because of frequency channels, plus if you get a truck or a buggy after you get your SS the XR3 would be perfect because has 3 model MEMORY. :D LATER DUDE!

[Spidermaxx]

I have heard nothing but good things about the XR2, and this was from people who do race. You don't NEED a FM radio to race, and in fact there are no more or less channels with AM or FM. However FM is a clearer signal and has a better range. The XR2 has a Two Model Memory (i think). And since I only have a T-maxx and will soon be getting the SS all I need is Two Model Mem. I will not be buying any more RC Cars/Trucks for a long, long, long time, because if I do my Wife would kill me. In addition to, the RC car habit, I also support a RC Plane habit. Up keep and maintenance gets expensive and I am the type of person who like to keep everything in working order.

Maxxthrasher: I pass by the AirAge Publishing office at least twice a day. Once on the way to work and once on the way home. The office is a 5 minute walk from where I live. It looks like a pretty cool office, it is a old converted school house, (i think it was the old high school). Behind the office is a couple of baseball / softball fields, tennis courts and basketball courts. I have taken my T-maxx to the field a couple of time and I have even flown one of my parkflyers up there once or twice. In hopes that I might be able to lure someone out of the office, but no luck. I have been tempted to go into the office but, I think that would be borderline stocking? LOL.... I don't want to seem like sometype of weirdo or something....

P.S. I hope there is no hard feelings about the Caps Lock thing. I have been on forums with members who can get VERY MAD about stuff like that. I was joking more than anything.

[MaxxThrasher]

I wonder if they give tours?

[vince-008]

Glad you guys like the rtr3-- be gettin' mine in two weeks....

If you found any new helpful hints since you started owning,,,,

Please e-mail me........

NTN (newtonitro)

Vince

[frontier]

Hey all , Whats up ?

Just wanted to say a few words about the RTR 3 . I have had mine for a few months now and love it . I have done a few mods that have really created a monster ! First I used the header from the T MAXX and a paris pipe . I also ditched the stock carb for a os unit off of a .15 hyper . Then to top it off my two speed just came in . I have put it all together and now this thing is a beast . Can you say fast !!! I love this car !!! If you are thinking of getting one stop thinking and do IT !!!!!


Ok , that was my two cents . Lataz

[vince-008]

Thanks frontier.....too late tho...

I already got it painted and waiting for the two speed kit sitting
next to it.....

Wish me luck.....(i aint great at tire glue....hahaha)

Vin

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by frontier
Hey all , Whats up ?

Just wanted to say a few words about the RTR 3 . I have had mine for a few months now and love it . I have done a few mods that have really created a monster ! First I used the header from the T MAXX and a paris pipe . I also ditched the stock carb for a os unit off of a .15 hyper . Then to top it off my two speed just came in . I have put it all together and now this thing is a beast . Can you say fast !!! I love this car !!! If you are thinking of getting one stop thinking and do IT !!!!!


Ok , that was my two cents . Lataz Yo frontier whats up with you dude? Check this rtr 3 w/ big block evo 4 novamega motor, hope you like .

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by DUUMDUDE
Yo frontier whats up with you dude? Check this rtr 3 w/ big block evo 4 novamega motor, hope you like . RPM turnbuckles & RB turbo pipe.

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by DUUMDUDE
RPM turnbuckles & RB turbo pipe. no sticker for better top end ! ha ha ha :D

[fastharry]

with the tank in backwards,and now since the feeds in the front,do you notice that your engine is leaning out,or perhaps running hot?..........

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by fastharry
with the tank in backwards,and now since the feeds in the front,do you notice that your engine is leaning out,or perhaps running hot?.......... Well perhaps it may or may not run hot if I were to use this car in 30 or 50 lap course race but I ran this engine 5 or 6 times up and down a parking lot 100yds in my temp reads 180 & 195 which is pretty good w/ 30 percent Odonnell fuel. I use this for drag racing in beating up on rs4s w/ 21s install.

[frontier]

I can never get the engine temp below 230 with the body off and it runs between 255 and 280 with the body on . I can not figure out why . I think i need to get the bigger head . I know it is not the fuel setting because i run very rich .

lataz

[sofast]

Does anyone know were I can order the RTR3 from?? I cant find it in stock anywere:confused: As soon as I find it, im going to order lol....... I cant wait to get it!

[vince-008]

Hey.finally got the rtr 3 out of the box....

no trouble at all starting, running, or anything i am aware of..

(beginner)..just followed directions and i was (maybe too easily) impressed at it's quickness without winding it full out yet..

Will keep you posted.....

(and yeah they are getting a little scarce to find...but i am sure there are more....) Good Luck...Vince:cool:

[Y2KSaInT]

Originally posted by sofast
Does anyone know were I can order the RTR3 from?? I cant find it in stock anywere:confused: As soon as I find it, im going to order lol....... I cant wait to get it!

Have u tried http://www.towerhobbies.com , http://www.stormerhobbies.com? Theres also bruckners, my best bet would be to check with ya LHS, he might work a deal with you & help you setting up ya car. :D

[sofast]

Originally posted by Y2KSaInT
he might work a deal with you & help you setting up ya car. :D

Thanks, but yeah ive tried those places...:(

Hey, what do you think I am..... A newbie!!!!!!!! LOL Im FAR from the newbie stage:D Heh, I started out in nitro....Right now I own a nitro rustler, nitro stampede, and an Ofna 1/8 buggy....... (have owned Many many many cars/trucks though)
Ill check with all 5 lhs and see what I can come up with...

Thanks,
Sofast

[fastharry]

call cruisin' with RC's in ramsey NJ....201-825-4884....he had 2 as of tonite.........and some SS's.........

[Y2KSaInT]

Originally posted by sofast


Thanks, but yeah ive tried those places...:(

Hey, what do you think I am..... A newbie!!!!!!!! LOL Im FAR from the newbie stage:D Heh, I started out in nitro....Right now I own a nitro rustler, nitro stampede, and an Ofna 1/8 buggy....... (have owned Many many many cars/trucks though)
Ill check with all 5 lhs and see what I can come up with...

Thanks,
Sofast

LOL! Hey! I didnt mean to sound like I was putting ya down. Judging by ya number of posts, I got the impression you WEREN'T a newbie. :D I just thought it would have been practical or something if you tried a LHS cuz they might have given you a discount or something. Nice rides by the way. :D Hope ya get ya car!

[pickle]

sofast- u seem to be pretty seasoned w/ nitro cars, so why do u want the RTR??, the kit is WAY better, 2spd .12SS and its a kit
i am one of those that dont think RTR's are too good,
electric RTR's r ok but Nitro RTR's rnt so good

im getting a type ss after my exams from japan, its almost half the price including postage and handling! LHS is 2 expensive for a 13yrold....dont flame me bout supporting ya hobby n everything pplllzzz

[V8 mustang gt]

just ordered my hpi nitro rs4 3 rtr on tower june 2nd....but on backorder:( ill get it in early july:( :( :( :( :( :mad: :mad: :(

[Y2KSaInT]

Hi Pickle! Thats a good idea, just wondering where in Japan are you ordering ya car from? Is it an online site?
Thnx!

[pickle]

yeh its an online site
$186 for the SS but they are all out of stock at the mo
i emailed them to see when they restock, but as per norm with hobby shops, they dont know :(

https://www.hobbynet-jp.com/
thats the japanese version

The English Version (https://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html)

[racer187]

how much does the rtr nitro rs4 3 cost with all the accessories NEEDED?

[dcshoelover]

Since I live in U.S.A. how much does the ss cost altogether with shipping charges, in american dollars?

[pickle]

dcshoelover - if u live in the US and u want to buy from the US, u mite aswell check out ur LHS

[Y2KSaInT]

Hey! Thanks for the info Pickle, that sites pretty cheap. :D

[dcshoelover]

No I meant from that hobbynet place.

[pickle]

dcshoelover - oh ok soz, iduno but all the info's there just search around a bit and u should find it, but if u cant, just do a fake order up until the part u get the shipping orders
as Y2KSaInT said its pretty cheap

[dcshoelover]

Alright thanx. For sure its cheaper. Tower Hobbies is like 100 dolars more.

[dcshoelover]

What does 40100 yen translate to in american $?

[pickle]

$US319.62

i just went there and they just restocked, the prices went up a big chunk...

btw, when u surf international sites this is a must
http://users.hunterlink.net.au/~ddpay/currency/
its a REALLY good currency converter

[nmirza]

I'm a complete newbie to RC cars. I also have a little problem with going overboard... I purchased the RTR 3 a month ago, and now I'm hooked. I put in a two speed, and I'm loving life. I have had some problems with the engine however. Seems that it starts easily, but dies after half a tank, and won't start back up. No problem I said, I wanted to see the insides of one of these anyways. And, I kind of want a faster engine too... This is how it always starts.

I went to my LHS, and said that I wanted to use my .15fe as a "learner" (something I can take apart, and screw around with), and that I needed a FAST engine for my car. They hooked me up with a Collari XS12PSr. Ended up needing a new flywheel, and collet. Now I've got everything back together, and to be honest, I'm a bit scared to try it :D . I've heard that the carb on a Collari is a bit hard tune, but I've done a whole lot of reading on tuning engines. Does anyone think this thing will be hard to control? If it is, what other mods will make it easier?

At least I should have a good ride... I may need it after my wife finds out how much this this has cost! ;)

[scalez]

i am new to the RC world, so please excuse me if i don't make any since or don't understand yet.

[scalez]

i am new to the RC world, so please excuse me if i don't make any since or don't understand yet.
i have just ordered and RS4 3 SS and i was just wondering if anyone has one yet an if so how does it run?

[V8 mustang gt]

i have an SS ...its GREAT ,,,great handling ,,great SPEED!!!
setup is a breeze I, made mine in 4 hours (seems like much but it isnt...it goes by fast)


only part i didnt like in setup (building it) was building the shocks....its a pain with all the oil and you have to do it precise to make it good and not leak...oh...i forgot the other pain ....making 7 turnbuckles!!!my fingers are still numb

i give it an 11 out of 10 in performance
and a 9 out of 10 for building it

but if your a newbie in R/C...why didnt you just opt for the RTR 3 ?...it doesnt have all the hop-ups but its much easier to build and maintain for a newb:confused:

[scalez]

i got it because i was reading all the magazines and it seemed to get alot of praise. i don't mind the time building it. from what i here putting it together is have the fun. i can't wait until i put it together. thanks for the info.

[saltytheseagull]

I'm planning on purchasing the RTR version. What are some good hop-ups? I was thinking two speed, MIP shiny CVD's, fiber disk brake, nitro racing clutch, and the complete carb? Are there any comments or recommendations? It looks like a great car and has a lot of potential.:)

[V8 mustang gt]

im going to get around 150 bucks from something i sold on ebay....what are the first and best hopups i should buy for my SS..

i was thinking:
new tires with chrome or aluminum wheels
racing clutch mip or hpi
perhaps a better suspension kit or shocks to raise the car...i always hit rocks in my street my ss is like half a cm off the ground

thanx for ur input
V8

[TopKatz]

I just bought a SS, and I spent an aditonal $150 on junk when I bought it. Here is what I got:

2-sets of nice crome dual 5 star hpi wheels
1- BMW M coupe body
1-HPI/motor saver air filter
1-dubro fuel filter
1-fiber brake
1-cvec z135 pipe
1-set of rpm rod ends


Ill post some picks after I get it all built up.

[micro_man]

hey guys. i just bought my ss too. i have a jr xr2 for it and i just sold almost all of my electric car stuff and here is the list of stuff i am ordering from tower inthe next few days:

Powerline Front Knuckles Nitro RS4 MT

1 22.79
LXVZ57 Powerline Drive Gear Mount Nitro RS4 MT

1 29.99
LX0536 Aerotrend Fireline Yellow Tube 3'

1 2.89
LXM738 HPI Fiber Brake Disk

1 12.99
LXLW03 HPI Nitro Racing Clutch

1 13.99
LXRD83 HPI Wheel Nuts M4 Purple (5)

1 5.79
LXBF84 Motor Saver On-Road Air Filter .12

1 13.79
LXAHE5 Dubro In-Line Fuel Filter Purple

1 3.79
LXRB09 RPM Long Shank Rod Ends Yellow (12)

1 4.79
Sub-Totals: In-Stock Items: $110.81
Back Orders: $ .00
Combined: $110.81
If you've changed any quantities above, be sure to click the "Update Quantities" button before Proceeding to Checkout


and i am still going to have about a hundred dollars to spare! this is gonna be great. i might get a new tuned pipe or something. all i know is it is gonna' look sweet!


later guys

[micro_man]

Oh yeah and i forgot to copy the top part of the page...i am getting the powerline alloy rear hub carriers.

later

[TopKatz]

I would not bother with the aluminium parts...but thats just me... I would grab a light weight fly wheel instead. Ther rs4 3 comes with two sets of rear cariers 8 and 10 degs..so Im not sure if you realy want to replace those, at least till you know what you like.

I got the short rpm rod ends...I think they are the ones you nead for road cars(shorter turnbuckels!)...

I also grabed a racing clutch, and a sway bar set. hpi 209a is the one.

[micro_man]

i didnt even think of the lenght of the rod ends..thanks... anyway i did get the racing clutch and i will check out a flywheel.

thanks

[scalez]

i just got finished putting my SS together and it is super fast. i will take me some time to get used to handling the car but i am patient. i hope to be able to get into racing around here. i will get some hop ups by then. let me know how you all do in racing.

[WhoKnowsWho]

I just ordered my SS version Trans Am from bruckner hobbies. Hey, only 5.99 for shipping that and a radio, I'm all for it! Hehe.

Any building suggestions? I just downloaded some updates from the HPI page, lots of corrections there.

I can't wait for it to get here Friday!

[TopKatz]

All I have to say is that this is a AWSOME kit! It went together realy smooth. The only minor gripe I have is that they should have pre-installed the correct spring in the 2-speed. It took me about 5.5 hrs to build. I ended up pulling my radio out of my NMT for it. I ahve run about 7 tanks through now, and the little 12r is starting to realy make some power. When I bought the kit I also got:

cvec 135z
fiber brake
air filter
fuel filter
rpm rod ends
Bocca grean seal bearings (24)
sway bar set


http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/mcoupe3.jpg

http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/rs43-2.jpg

Here is a little video of some burst/brake in runs (http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/rs43typess.WMV)

I highly recomend this kit!!!!

[pickle]

aaahhh!!! i cant wait!! havent had a nitro for a while [mayb bout 2yrs] and im really excited

im sure EVERYONE knows what this feels like, so dont flame me writing a post bout nothing, cuz u know how it is:cool:

[tonyr]

my tire wear is very un even left front almost bald rear right on its way car seems to run straight and has plenty of traction im also noticing a slight groove on each tire near the body whats the solution :p

[tonyr]

:D just got an rs4rtr 3 added 2speed trans and header the thing kickds ass only problem my tires are wearing out unevenly any tips

[TopKatz]

just a couple ideas on teh tire wear.

dont always drive the same course(directon)..rotate the tires... get some turn buckles and make sure the wheels are nice and flat ont eh ground

[volks1]

how do u know if it is shifting 1st car i built so......it is fast thow its the type ss havnt even gone full throttle and it is quick only thing is it dsent move as soon as i pull the trigger slightly..and the steerring servo does not go back to straight after i turn the wheel......any thoughts????????

[TopKatz]

you will know when it shifts. The motor has to brake in a little befor it generates enuff rpm to engage. You can also adjust teh 2speed to shift a little sooner if it still does not engage after say 10 tanks.

Hesitation is probaly due to you runnnig rich...which is because the motor is not broken in yet. During brake in you should start adjusting the setting a little. You can also adjust the lowne screw a little.

The stearing could be a couple things. New linkages are tight, and offer more resistance then a worn in setup. You may want to invest in a high torq servo for the stearing.

[RB RUSTLER]

i am looking to buy a nitro street car i am looking for speed. i am willing to spend $400 on a car. the two cars i am looking at are the rs43 and the rs4 ss. which one is better and has more hop ups

[dcshoelover]

The SS version is way better and faster, it comes witha 2 speed, over 1 horsepower engine, plus more...

[volks1]

go with the ss deff.

[tonyr]

SOLVED MY UNEVEN TIRE WARE PROBLEM ADDED ADJUSTABLE TURN BUCKEL'S NEED SOME TIRE HELP I RUN ON SMOOTH PRETTY CLEAN PARKING LOTS RUBBER OR FOAM WHAT TYPE SLICKS , X PTTERN OR WHAT HELP :confused:

[DUUMDUDE]

Originally posted by tonyr
SOLVED MY UNEVEN TIRE WARE PROBLEM ADDED ADJUSTABLE TURN BUCKEL'S NEED SOME TIRE HELP I RUN ON SMOOTH PRETTY CLEAN PARKING LOTS RUBBER OR FOAM WHAT TYPE SLICKS , X PTTERN OR WHAT HELP :confused: TRY TIRES FROM http://www.yokomousa.com/THERE THE BEST I THINK , ANYTHING DOUBLE BLUE OR HARDER. BROOKLYN HOBBIES SELLS THEM TOO. I USE SM-L321SH Type-L, Super Hard (Triple Purple) BECAUSE RIGHT KNOW THE GROUND IS VERY HOT SO YOU GET NICE WEAR AND EXCELLENT TRACTION . ALSO I USE 26MM IN THE FRONT AND 32MM IN THE REAR. GOOD LUCK:cool:

[pickle]

do ppl know how to turn OFF their CAPSLOCK in here?

[TopKatz]

I slaped together a new movie of my SS. It is getting close to be broken in now. I have the 2speed shifting much more consistantly. I still sort of **** at driving it, but Im progresing.

This is my first movie with Adobe premiere. I just switched over from editing on a ibook and imovie to using my pc. Premiere is a excelent app. It is the first one on the pc that I have found that is better then apples imovie.

The video is short, but a big file. You may want to right click/save as. Streaming it will probaly give you a choppy result(although it is on a t1). I also have it in quicktime format, however it is about 13megs larger, for some reason.....

TopKatz Productions - Rs43 type ss !!!!! (http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/rs43ss.wmv)

Enjoy!

BTW: My friend Ren took the footage. This was his first time with the camara, and it shows. Of about 15 minuts of footage, this was about all I could use.

[saltytheseagull]

Does anybody know of a lower price than $259.99 from Bruckner Hobbies for the RS4 3 RTR? If so please let me know. Thanks! :D

[WhoKnowsWho]

Bruckner was the lowest price I could find for the RTR and the SS version. I think I found one other site but it seemed kinda shady... didn't advertise in RC Car Action and they never responded to my e-mails, and the phone number didn't exist when I tried calling!

The hardest thing is finding it in stock I think... 'cause Bruckner is waiting to get their stock in because they still haven't shipped mine. Good luck!

[TopKatz]

I got mine at my LHS for 275...which is a realy good deal for retail!

[pickle]

hey topkatz, nice movie, luved the slow mo scenes but ur rite the 1st timer sorta does show

[TopKatz]

yeah...I know. Ill get there though. Plus my tires were comming unglued, and the insearts were hanging out. I was suposed to be getting a package from tower yesterday, but it never showed. IM getting xpatern belteds, pro inserts, new ss(no chrome!) rims, and some springs.

[pickle]

cool, how often is mail order on time in the states?

[TopKatz]

tower is usualy good...but I got pimped this time...oh well.

[scalez]

i am looking for a good engine to put in my SS, so i can compete in the local races. i am sure that they race under roar rules. let me know if anyone has any suggestions.

[B Dusted]

The RTR RS4 3 was the best investment i ever made...But to be honest with you, I should have waited the extra 4 months and got the SS version.

http://www.36pix.com/00/205/45/preview/ee7bb8dc22PzmM4SjP30Ss4uzqzr0W2SdSo.jpg

[B Dusted]

http://www.36pix.com/00/190/32/preview/ee51cfdf77n7cIn2723dirVTAwCdS9YLF1P.jpg

http://www.36pix.com/00/190/32/preview/ee51cfe2a2Psdn00CWvnT3DbteHfIdqiFMk.jpg

[TopKatz]

Here is my ACURA RSX body. I was not a huge fan of it untill I painted it and mounted it. Now I dig it!

http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/acura.gif

Also, here is my latest flick. This one has two SS's the second is ALRJ's, and it has a phantom in it!

ALRJ & TopKatz SS's (http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/2rs4-3s.wmv)

[tonyr]

what kinda fuel do most of you guys use? 20% 25% or higher:D

[micro_man]

hey guys,

im bout to start racing and i wondered what kind of foams i should get. ne one have ne suggestions?

[fastharry]

can one of you guys do me a favor........(or all of you)......I just got to step 7,and when I drop the 2 sp in,it has about an 1/8th of an inch side to side play,and it''s because the 76822b plastic collar slides off the roll pin(the 47 tooth gear side)..when youi install the 72108 cup on,it doesn't but up against the collar(like it does on the other side).....this is allowing side to side play,and the collar looks like it will strip where it sits on the roll pin if it moves....if everything is held tight,then the bottom carrier 85306 doesn't hold the bearings tight....there's a little play,and the shaft moves side to side...


or is it supposed to and the driveshafts help center it when they're installed..thanks.......

[WhoKnowsWho]

I observed the same play in the assembly too. The car is done though and it seems to work fine. No stripping issues or anything. The only minor problem I have noticed is the brake pads stay put after I release the brake, I think some springs installed between them will help them disengage though.

[fastharry]

after I got the gearboxes installed,with the front driveshaft and the 2 little o-rings,the slop is gone...they probably allow som slop for that reason......

My brakes stuck also...take out the brake cam,and you see the little hole in the gearbox it fits into?......mine was a little tight in there and the cam wouldn't turn free when you put that little brace on....I took my Dremel witha small grinding stone and enlarged the hole a TINY bit...put that brace back on and its great....

[WhoKnowsWho]

Sounds good fastharry, I'll try that and see if it helps!

[V8 mustang gt]

Originally posted by fastharry
after I got the gearboxes installed,with the front driveshaft and the 2 little o-rings,the slop is gone...they probably allow som slop for that reason......

My brakes stuck also...take out the brake cam,and you see the little hole in the gearbox it fits into?......mine was a little tight in there and the cam wouldn't turn free when you put that little brace on....I took my Dremel witha small grinding stone and enlarged the hole a TINY bit...put that brace back on and its great....

SAME problem here...my brakes move if i do them by hand but with the servo they go to the brake position and once i apply throttle they still tend to stay there...ill try enlarging the hole...btw ive been using after run oil on it and it was ok

[fastharry]

let me know how it works....I should have my car running by tues.............those step screws that hold the brake pads in look like a perfec place for tiny springs,if needed...........



BTW,are any of you guys using the SS engine, (stock)header and(stock) pipe combo?...........How well does it go?......I'm running this car in the HPI challenge,I'm running out of time,and I don't want to waste time running a half a gallon through it if it's a dog combo.....

[dcshoelover]

Brakes?... Who uses brakes!?!?!

[Scoobyvroom]

Sweet Jesus,

[Scoobyvroom]

Sweet Jesus,

I suck at posting, actually I do. But man I just about craped in my pants when I saw how close you came to the pole....

Man even I was puckering my butt waiting for the big bang.

Nice car, like the M3 coupe body on there....

C.J.

[V8 mustang gt]

i have the stock ss manifold but i have an aftermarket hpi aluminum tuned pipe works great...one problem...it was made for the original rs4 so your gonna have to bend the pin that holds it in place to make it fit and the hpi logo is on the bottom:o

[NoPepsiForYou]

Does anybody out there know how fast the Type SS goes in stock form?

[TopKatz]

about 45mph after you get the motor broken in

[scalez]

i have a question. what is the better engine? the O.S. 15 Hyper CV-X with slide valve carb or the HPI Nitro Star 12R SS? And which one is faster?

[scalez]

Has anyone heard anything about the Fantom 15FR? Is it good or garbage?

[TopKatz]

It is basicaly a HPI .15 SS ported. They make realy high RPM's(like around 40k). That is no lie...the thing screams! But Im not sure on the durability... that seams like a lot or rpms for what amounts to a 15SS

[WhoKnowsWho]

Here's a pic of my RS4 3 SS
I wanted the body done so I could run the car with it... of course the monsoons started here at right about that time...

[micro_man]

here is my SS with a new stratus body. I love my SS

[NoPepsiForYou]

nice cars, I like the wheels on the NSX, good job:cool:

[scalez]

i am still breaking in the Fantom 15 FR.

[scalez]

i am trying to send a picture of my car, but i dosen't seem to be working. can someone let me know what i am doing wrong?

[scalez]

sorry about that my picture is to big.

[PhillyNitro]

just got mine from my LHS I had a rs4 2 as my first car and sold it and got a Mugen MSX2 but did not like it i have a 1/8th scale buggy but wanted a on road again hheh still breaking it in. so the fun has not began but I did soften up the suspension with orange springs. :)

[TopKatz]

I just droped my rb x12 into my SS.....

http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/rs4-3_rb1.gif

http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/rs4-3_rb2.gif

http://www.intercityinc.com/nmt/rs4-3_rb3.gif

I have a thread over on the HPI board about putting a RE into a rs4-3. Basicaly you have to shim the motor mount with a couple washer , and use a NTC3 manifold.

[scalez]

What has more of a factor in the speed of your car? Is it HP or RPM?

[TopKatz]

rpm can be directly translated into speed...hp is how fast it gets to that speed

[scalez]

Thanks

[TopKatz]

its not realy that simple..but it is basicaly how it works

[pickle]

yeh its not the rite
but lets not start that shall we? theres another thread over in the nitro forum taht talks about what HP is

are the turnbuckles that come with the rs4 3 ss adjustable?
if they rnt do the rs4 2 turnbuckles fit?

[TopKatz]

they are adjustable... but they are steal. You can use lunsford 1inch with rpm small length rod ends

[pickle]

ok cool thanx
i was planning on getting some lunsford gear when they break cuz i need 2 save some $$$
iduno if my lhs stock them, the rs4 3 ss deal here is all whacko, like no1's got them and ever1's sayin diff things so parts here rnt readily available....gotta luv the net huh?

[nIkKo]

Know a lot about rc but a little about pipes. What is the purple pipe in some of the pics with dual exaust?

If i throw that into a ss, how much would that increase the speed? I read that stcok it goes like 45, would it go 50 with the new pipe?

[ponky_wonky]

thats a cvec dual exhaust pipe
it give about 5-10 extra miles per hour if hooked up rite
its not race legal though
long ;ive emporer nikko
if u dont know what i'm talkin about chech the NTC3 forum

[nIkKo]

not race legal? That sucks, i d like to use it but i want to race in club races.

[ponky_wonky]

you should be able to use this pipe in club races, i meant roar and ifmar races
sorry bout the confucion
these pipes are a little pricy too
i thin they're 75 bucks or something like that

[dcgear]

hey,
i just got a nitro rs4 3 type SS, and im still new to all this r/c stuff. Anyway, i just have a question

when your car is on idle and when the car is off the ground, should the wheels be spinning?

when i set it back on the road the car doesnt move
but once i pick it up the wheels spin

is this normal?:confused:

any info is helpful
thanks!

[dcgear]

here are some more questions

1) how many tanks should i run before i can punch it to full throttle?

2) whats a good amount of nitro to use in your fuel?

3) is it better to break in with a fuel that contains less nitro?

thanks :)

[TopKatz]

dcgear - The wheels can spin while off the ground, as long as the car does not more on the ground...that is fine. However the sound of the motor is more important..is it idling? you should be able to tell.

For abc motors I do this.

1 tank statick idle
3 tanks 0 -1/2 throtel burst runns..alowing the motor to cool at bottem dead center between runs
3 tanks 0 -3/4 throtel burst runns alowing to cool between runs
3- tanks 0-full varied speeds burst runns...again alowing to cool between runs


then I just run it, and will still kinda babby it for a bit. If you look at each tank as 10minutes of run time you should have almost a hour of run time on the motor befor you hit full throtel at all.


you should use %20 nitro...that is what your motor is shimed for..dont change % unless you know what your doing. Its best to use the fuel your going to run with.

[nIkKo]

Two things, does the ss have pivot ball supension?

What advantage does pivot ball suspention have?

[TopKatz]

no it does not. my understanding is that pivot ball alows for easy adjustment of camber castor, and is stronger then lower a-arm/turn buckle type suspention.

[nIkKo]

Well have you all gone through liking the ss with out it? He is what I am deciding between:

1. Nitro rs4 3 ss w/ jrxr2 and then the cvec dual exasut pipe.

2. Nitro tc3 rtr(check the website i am not lying) and then putting a two speed and then eveuntually the radio will be a jr xr2. The rtr comes with an ae12 instead of a ae 15 and it doesnt have a two speed or threaded alluminum shocks. It also comes with the jaguar am radio.

[TopKatz]

I have no problem with the a-arm turnbuckle type suspention.

My guess would be that the 12r is a better motor then the ae12. And that the over all value would be better in the SS, because you get a 2-speed, adn you buy the radio you want, instead of throwing out the one they give you.

You wont hear a argument from me though that the NTC3(the kit!) is a technicly superior car then the SS...this does not mean that it is automaticly going to beat a SS on the track. Im equaly as sure that a SS will hold its own against a NTC3 with a simaler motor, and gearing.

You just nead to decide what fits your budget, your driving(are you racing, or bashing) and how much maintnece you want to do(do you want to rebuild ball diffs every other weekend?)

[nIkKo]

Ball diffs? On the tc3?

[TopKatz]

yes, the ntc3 has front and rear ball diffs...and they requier maintnence often

[RaiderFootbal27]

the rs4 3 ss has a bigger head for the engine, and a 2 speed transmission, and its not rtr, so u have to put everything together, which takes like 20 hours, its a lot faster too

[dcgear]

TopKatz: thanks for the info!!
heres how i broke mine in,
5-6 tanks on idle
3 tanks on low and mid throttle

and i havent gone full throttle yet
im using 15% nitro for break in and then switching to 20% when finished.

is it okay to use 1 year old fuel?

Raiderfootball27: im new and i took my time it totalled to about 7-8 hours, 20 hours is a lot!!

[TopKatz]

5-6 tanks at idle problay did nothing for you...it was a waste of time. But it did not hurt it.

do at least 3 more tanks at 3/4 burst runs. then 3 tanks at 0-full bust runns...varying speed !

letting the motor cool down in between runs...also set the piston to bdc(botem dead center) while cooling. This will let the sleve go back to its shape!

you should be using %20 all the time, and 1 year old fuel is just that...old...dump it!

20 hrs is a realy long time for the SS kit.... I think i built mine in about 5-6..but I have a NMT also, so i knew what I was doing.

[dcgear]

TopKats: im gonna switch from 15% to 20% nitro that should be fine right? its gonna be the same brand, so it will have the same lubercation and stuff

[TopKatz]

yeah... it will be fine.... just go with fuel you can get.

[dcgear]

do you think 1 year old fuel will damage the engine?
cuz i have 3 litres of bluethunder

[TopKatz]

fuel atracts moister..... old fuel has a chance to atract more.... just dont use it any more

[pickle]

how do u know if the piston is dwn the bottom?
the only way i can think of is taking of the heat sink and looking down in2 it?

[TopKatz]

its basicaly a guess/feal thing... obviously you know when it is at the top(it is tightest) then just sort of guess when it is in the middle of the easy part...that will be close enuff.

[CHUCKMANDO]

I have the Hpi 3 SS and it is my first HPI car. I already have a NTC3. I just completed te SS 3. I have not broken it in yet. When I push the car to see how it free rolls, it only goes about4 feet and you can hear the gears pretty loud. My Ntc3 goes around 10 feet and you can hardly hear the gears. Is this normal? Noone I know has this car, so its hard to compare. The brake does not appear to be on at all. Thanks for any help as I want to break the car n today.

[TopKatz]

maybe you have the mesh to tight? you should be able to hold the clutch bell, and wiggle teh spur a little(not a lot!) .

I know you said the brake does not look on, but make sure its not....

hope that helps

[CHUCKMANDO]

I did loosen it a little before I posted I will try sme more. Another thing I was concerned about was that only a little greese can in the tubes and I wasn't sure if thiis an issue.
Thanks for the reply

[TopKatz]

its not a isue if you use more then what they give you. If you only used what they gave you then it could be.

Check the mesh of the motor to spur first...if that is good, then maybe think about tearing down the diffs, and rebuilding them with some more grease.

[CHUCKMANDO]

Thanks for your replies Topkatz, but the only extra greese I have is the black greese from associated. After I realign the gears and if tha doesn't help, Can I use that or does it have to be the same from HPI.

[TopKatz]

I dont usualy use any of the fluids that come with my kits....I have some nice stuff that I use for the shocks, and for diffs and stuff.... I never know what they give me, and I dont want to find out the hard way that it is crap.

I would say that you could use the AE grease, as long it is a for that.... I have not built a AE car in about 15 years(rc10) so Im not sure exactly what its like.

[CHUCKMANDO]

The greese is for te diff balls,so maybe I'll give it a shot.
Thanks again

[CHUCKMANDO]

Well it appears the gear the is held on by the c clip was not pushed in far enough onto te shaft. The car rolls alot better but no likethe ntc3. It feels good enough break-in so I will give i a whirl.

[PhillyNitro]

here is a pic of my new one :)

[micro_man]

Hey guys,
I just got my Paris pipe, GS rod ends(Pink is all they had but it looks alright), pink fuel line (to match the rod ends), Motor savers off road air filter(the guy at the shop said it works really good onroad), some 3mm locknuts to hold the header on tight, and i think that is it. It looks real good. I want to get my Tmaxx header next and i will be set for a while. Here are some pics

[micro_man]

here is another

[micro_man]

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[micro_man]

...oops again

[micro_man]

dam i keep hitting submit reply instead of browse....here it is once and for all!

[KingWillie]

Has anybody heard about the cancellation of the RACER 2 and what its replacement will be...check out below........if you want it in chronological order read it from the bottom up...:eek:

Yes the type SS kit is the replacement of the Racer 2.


Wes Mott

HPI Racing Customer Service

-----Original Message-----
From: W. Groben [mailto:billg58-tmp@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:38 AM
To: Mott, Wes
Subject: Re: RACER 2


Will HPI be introducing something to replace it? Please tell me the RS4 3 SS is not it.

Bill

----- Original Message -----

From: Mott, Wes

To: 'W. Groben'

Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:35 AM

Subject: RE: RACER 2

The racer 2 has been discontinued. We will carry parts for some time.

Wes Mott

HPI Racing Customer Service

-----Original Message-----
From: W. Groben [mailto:billg58-tmp@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 2:21 PM
To: support@hpiracing.com
Subject: RACER 2

I am considering purchasing a Racer2 for my son, however I was on the HPI Nitro Forum asking questions about it and was told that HPI is planning to discontinue this model. I know you support your discontinued kits very well, but I don't want to be first in line to buy a soon to be discontinued product. Can you assure me that this is not the case?


so HPI replaces their racer with a modified truck chasis...what next..I was assuming you know the RS4 3 is just a modification of the Nitro MT off-road Truck :eek:

[CHUCKMANDO]

I just about finished my engine breakin. Even though I was running rich with blue smoke and fuel spitting out, it ran rather hot. My friend was breakig in his impact and he didn't seem as hot. Then the rain came. Tomorrow I will lean it out and see what its got. Does anyone have any setups like camber and toeins etc?
It appear to have alot of toein and the car handled very well at the low speeds I was going. I just took out most of the toe-in and I hope I'm not making a mistake. Camber appears to be positive. I am going to check it out next. On the NTC3 inx. the manual gives alot of setup info.
Thanks for an help

[pickle]

microman- thats the paris turbo ring pipe rite? where did u get it and how much was it?
does ne1 have the company's website/email add?
and how does it compare to the stock one? ive heard its cheap and i dont have heaps of $$$ to spend..sound louder? deeper?
does it have more low end torque or is it tuned for high end speed?

[TopKatz]

KingWillie -

have you driven the rs4-3? Have you seen one go? If not then reserve your judgement untill then.

The rs4-3 only has teh front and rear difs in common with the NMT..and even thent hey are redisighned.

If you dont like it, then dont buy it...but I asure you they are not the same.

[WhoKnowsWho]

pickle - I saw that pipe in the www.nitrohouse.com ad in the magazine. $25

[micro_man]

I got it for like 15 bux at www.ehobbiesoutlet.com

I havent got to run it yet because as you can see i havent fitted the pressure line onto it. I just did it late last night and i will run it today.

[KingWillie]

Originally posted by TopKatz

have you driven the rs4-3? Have you seen one go? If not then reserve your judgement untill then.
The rs4-3 only has teh front and rear difs in common with the NMT..and even thent hey are redisighned.
If you dont like it, then dont buy it...but I asure you they are not the same.

Geez no need to be so nasty.

The RS4 3 has more than that in common, it is the same chasis geometry, shaft drive, diffs, etc..granted they have been altered to fit for a car...read the September issue of R/C CAR the review is pretty good. Or you could e-mail Wes Mott at HPI to confirm it, suit yourself.

Any way back to the main topic, I am not placing any judgement at all on the RS4 3 I was just surprised they decided to drop the Racer 2 instead of further development in an actual racing chasis. We have an RS4 here at my house and were just ready to see them develop something serious for a racer.
By the way R/C Car did race the RS4 3, they put some foamies on it and they thought it ran with the "real" race cars very well. Sorry if I injured your SS's ego, but I was not complaining about the SS rather I was moaning HPI still doesn't think it's time to build a purpose built racer. Peace and Love :)

[TopKatz]

The RS4 3 has more than that in common, it is the same chasis geometry, shaft drive, diffs, etc..granted they have been altered to fit for a car

my SS's ego is intact. The fact is that they are not the same car. Yes it has some parts in commen with the NMT. However it has more parts incomen with the RS4-2.

The fact is that none of HPI's cars are pro level cars(posible exception being the proceed).. what the rs4-3 is, is a more durable street/parking lot TC. The Rs4-2 and the racer were not pro calaber cars...

My "nasty" response was fueld by your uniformed stament about the car. I asure you, it is not a NMT. I have one of each. How is the geyomitry the same when the shocks, shock towers, chasie length, a-arms and turnbuckles are all difrent? Trust me...it is not a NMT...

The parts in commen are the center spur gear holder, teh front and rear diff housing, and some hardware. It does not have the same chasie, or radio tray, or 2speed. It has new planetary gears for the diffs, and a spring for the front diff to provide a limeted slip of sorts.

The car may not be what you were looking for...but that does not make it bad car.

[KingWillie]

Originally posted by TopKatz

My "nasty" response was fueld by your uniformed stament about the car. I asure you, it is not a NMT. I have one of each. How is the geyomitry the same when the shocks, shock towers, chasie length, a-arms and turnbuckles are all difrent? Trust me...it is not a NMT...



I didn't say it was an NMT I said it was a modification of the NMT which is a direct quote from R/C Car September 2002. Never did I say it was an NMT. And never once did I say I did not like the car, I know its not the car for me. My statement is very well informed as I read the R/C Car article and corresponded with Wes Moore from HPI concerning the car. Please read the review and chill. :confused:

End of pissing contest for me, go ahead and have fun.

[saltytheseagull]

I live in Indiana and I can't find anywhere to race on-road nitro that's close to me. I'm not sure if I want to get a car now. I live in Indy and don't want to drive more than an hour. Any suggestions? :confused:

[Morpehus2be]

Hi! I'm in the market for an easy to maintain reasonably competitive 1/10th nitro car that's not to much above USD300. The SS fits the bill allright but the recent release of the Yokomo GT-4 RTR puts me in a dilemma.....its listed at about USD330.

I've noticed that the gear ratios is a lot more aggressive on the Yokomo (it is geared about the same ratios as stock NTC3s). I know the SS has lots of hop-ups, but so does the Yokomo.

Which would be the best 'value for money' buy?

My brother will soon own a Duratrax SFGP and I don't want that USD200 kit car to outperform my potentially USD300 kit.

Also, my local track has a lot of Thunder Tiger TS4N Pros & CEN kits with the occasional Tamiya TG10 running on weekends. Will the SS or Yokomo be competitive against these?

:confused:

[nIkKo]

I am thinking about picking up a used ss minus the engine because you cant always trust what people do to there engines, anyways i was thinking about that new hb .12. Anyways, how much maintanace do you all end up doing a week on the ss? How is the handling and is it durable? Any other input would be great also.

[micro_man]

I like the way my SS handles. My track is real sticky. I run it with the shocks laid down and 33r tires. I am about to get the whole set of associated springs. I am going to put like the med. in front and the soft med. in the rear. I like the way it handles right now though with stock springs. I have like 1/4 in spacer in the back and like 1/4 in. in the front. Oh yeah i also am running the 8 degree castor blocks up front and 1 degree of toe in in the rear. Set up like this the car handles really well. I love it.

[dcgear]

hi, what fuel do you guys use with the type SS?

[micro_man]

hey dont mind this if the pic works, i am just trying to test this out because i found a site to upload pics to.

http://www.createandshare.com/viewPhotos.asp?ID=119&section=Photos

[micro_man]

I use odonnel 20%

Does anyone know where i can upload pics for free so i can post pics?

Thanks

[dcgear]

geocities gives u free uploads but u have to copy and paste the links to view the pics


also what do u guys use to clean your cars?

[micro_man]

I use nitro cleaner. I just take out the radiotray sprat down the chassis and wipe it off, and them clean the radio try with a small paintbrush.

I want a website so i can past the link into the [img] [/img ] thing

[micro_man]

lemme try this

http://www.geocities.com/kurtisrc/sss1.JPG

hope it comes out as a pic not a link

[WhoKnowsWho]

Why don't you just use the attach file option when you do a reply? Much easier than links, uploads to other sites, etc.

I use Byron 20% fuel because it's the main thing the hobby shop carries. And it has worked well so far.

[micro_man]

Because you cant post the same pic twice. Like if i posted a pic somewhere in the nitro forum..that would be the only time I would be able to post it. When you upload it from a site, It can be used over and over again.

BTW can you guys see the pic? I just wondered if it was only showing up on my comp. or something.

Later

[WhoKnowsWho]

Nope, can't see your picture.

[dcgear]

do u guys think those "air duster" (pressured air in a can) blasters will be strong enough to take out dirt on a r/c car?

[dcgear]

hi,
today i was out playing with my typeSS and i hit a wooden block, and right after it hit, my engine suddenly got louder. it still runs normally but its just extra loud... i dont know what it could be, the sound is very throaty and deep.

anyone know what this problem may be?:confused:

[pickle]

check all ur exhaust fittings i.e manifolds, cracks in pipe etc..
they might have got hit loose and when ur muffler systems falls off/apart it gets louder

[dcgear]

thanks Pickle, i found a crack on my tunned pipe. funny how a little crack like that can totally alter the sound.

[pickle]

no probs, someone around here could prob xplain the science of it all but i spose its just because it kills the effect of a muffler so it gets louder

[dairykow809]

this a great parking lot racer
the handling isnt bad but the acceleration is just too good, the gear ratio lowers the top speed a lot
a 2 speed is a good choice for a hop up

[CHUCKMANDO]

Has anyone had a problem so for with the break staying on somewhat. I fooled around with it last night. The car does fine till I use the break, then it's like I have a huge drag brake tuned in. It doesn't happen when I take the whole brake system off the car. I tried to seperate the metal around the break. I now think it may be the linkage. Can anyone give any ideas?

[dcgear]

i had the same problem with the brake, but all u gotta do is use the leftover of your fuel lines and put a peice on the otherside of the linkage bar, so that it pushes the brake back to normal when u accelerate. :D

[RaiderFootbal27]

ya, i think u skipped that direction, cause in the manual thats what it says to do

[CHUCKMANDO]

Thanks,
I won't get a chance to check it out till Weds nite. Will let you know how it turns out.

[RaiderFootbal27]

ok, i have the HPI RS4 3 SS, i've oly had it for about 3 weeks, when i put it together and everything, it was running fine,
then, when my bro wanted to put grease in tranny, he took it apart, he put grease in it, put it back together, when i tried to spin it, it didn't not spin easily, so we tried it out, and then tranny would not shift, it would just go junh, junh, junh, jung, at full throttle, well i thought i needed to adjust the shift point, so i did, too much, and the screw ball and spring fell out, i got the maintenece kit, there are 2 kinds of springs in it, longer one, and shorter one, i tried both, none worked, so what could this be, it has not worked since my bro took it apart, i took it apart again, to check if it was right, no teeth missing, i put it back together by the manual, and i've tried everything, it just won't shift, help out guys! o ya, i also replaced my stock clutch with a hpi racing clutch, im not sure if it ever shifted with it or not, but i don't think that is the problem, im not that good at figuring it out, u guys are the experts help me out

[dcgear]

double check that the teeth on the tranny matches up with the teeth on the clutch.

also check if there are any rocks stuck inbetween, cuz ive had that happen to my belt drive rs4 2 before and it was hard to move until i took out the peice of pebble.

im no expert but i hope that helps

[pickle]

can ur car roll with out the engine on it?

[fastharry]

Ive been real happy with my SS....it has better on gas steering thn my Tc3 nitro's but isn't as stable........but its still fun...


one thing that bothers me is the car has a tendency to unload the rear tires if you get off the gas in a sweeper..my tc3 don't do that...they come out alittle,but not violent like the SS..


we race on a fast track....the funny part is,this car took me to 9th in the a main at teh HPI challenge in NY...and I never felt that problem as the course was laid out like a tight club course...


I'm running the super chassis,threaded shocks, etc..a basic set-up...6 mm ride hgt(f&r) stad camber settings,green pro linears(bassicaly the same tension as the stock black springs)....

a couple of guys at HPI have noticed that tendency also...

when the car unloads,teh back end comes right around.....and yes,I set tweak etc.....

ever notice this?.................

[TopKatz]

Sup Harry....

I have not noticed that problem in a while. With the stock set up I had lots of problems with keeping the rear end in check. Im not sure what specific thing fixed my problems...but here is my set up.

I run either HPI 26mm xpatern belted(bashing) or sorex 24mm r36 slicks(when we have a course set up) ..both with blue pro-inserts. Im using 50wt shock oil all around. White springs in the back with 1/8 spacers. I shortened the rear shocks by 1mm also. In the front Im running hot red springs with 1/8th spacers and stock length shocks. I also have green sway bars on front and back. The rear sways I have the ball stud mounted through a o-ring to tighten it up.

My car tracks like a champ...and it gets super sticky with the sorex tires on.

[fastharry]

tk..thanks for the reply.....are those red and white springs teh racer2 springs?.....also,you're running the stock chassis,right?...so no droop settings?.....when you put the o ring in,did it help the sway bars be more consistant?........

[TopKatz]

I belive they are the same springs that come with the racer2..but Im not posotive.

Yes, Im running the stock chasie...no droop

the o-ring definitly tightened up the swaybar...the ball stud has zero play now.... so it seams to work a little better now.

[fastharry]

I actually put harder springs in the rear..and it helped..its like the rear end pivots (or unloads) so with harder springs it can't lean as much...so going on that,i bet the sway bar helped....

i'll try that this week...Thanks

also,have you tried going around a sweeper and gotten off the gas?......thsi is the only time it does that...on gas it tracks as well as my tc3..in fact better....this car actually turns in better "on gas"...

[TopKatz]

Your right about it turning better under power. It took me a bit to get used to it...I thought all TC's were like that? Anyways... I never glide through corners, IM either on the gas, or Im goosing the throtel to keep the reves up and keep some power to the wheels. Other wise it gets squerly. I think it has to do with the gears.

When your not on the gas it is in 1st gear...and if your still carying good speed that 1st gear is to low to handel the speed, and the rear end basicaly skids out...like if you down shifted too low and it caused a skid in a real car...thats what I think happens..... just try goosing the throtel a little to keep it in second gear, or to taper the change in speed a little more.