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GT Freak
05-31-2004, 03:40 AM
well, anyone know where i can get a set of REAR BODY POSTS for my SBF at :confused:

r.c.dealer
06-04-2004, 08:14 AM
All the bodies available for the Stampede should fit any version of the Blackfoot.

GT Freak: You can usually find them on ebay, theres a good supply of parts there.

Che
06-07-2004, 07:33 PM
I am currently using a Futaba 230CR ESC rated for motors 20 turns or higher. I was thinking of puchasing a 20 turn motor. Can my setup run with a faster motor or should I stick with a 20 turn or higher motor?

SARacer
06-12-2004, 09:05 PM
can the King Blackfoot steer with a regular servo or do i need a high torque servo?

r.c.dealer
06-14-2004, 04:00 AM
I've used standard servo's for steering on my Blackfoots, and Bush devil. I can turn the front wheels lock to lock with no problem on the ground. The trucks are light enough, especially with a lexan body to not need a high torque servo IMO.


CHe: if your esc is rated for 20 + turn motors I wouldn't go any less than a 20 turn motor.

Che
06-14-2004, 06:26 PM
Thanks R.C. Dealer. Appreciate your help. :)

vetmxer
06-23-2004, 04:07 AM
just found this forum heres my original BF
http://www.mustangmods.com/data/9754/copy_of_dscf0116.jpg
its all stock except ESC, orion havoc 19t dbl wound ,and oil filled shocks off a tower st15. where can i get some good tires for this thing? would 2.2 stadium truck tires fit the stock rims. with the 19t i need more traction especially with my 7 cell batt.

GT Freak
06-24-2004, 04:01 PM
i looked on ebay, nothing.... :(

any other way to mount a body on my truck :confused:

SARacer
06-24-2004, 09:01 PM
try using velcro

GT Freak
06-25-2004, 11:58 AM
well, decided to put her up for sale, email or pm me if interested :cool:

mwilson478@comcast.net

tperkins
07-08-2004, 06:55 PM
Im getting a Blackfoot soon, with a Trackmaster belt drive teanny and lots of other upgrades.

This thread is kinds dead, and I got a new place to talk about customs RC monsters and stuff like that. Come check it out and join!

http://sisoundz.proboards20.com/index.cgi

Spoon37
07-08-2004, 08:02 PM
u bought madmartys BF? the one with all the goodies, the white f150 shell and G hawg tyres?

cool :D

addz911k
07-09-2004, 10:55 AM
i have a king blackfoot and they are great cars, very powerful for a a rear wheel drive car. mine has no speedow or any thing to make it go faster............ they are very nice powerful cars to have and they just look superb

tperkins
07-10-2004, 12:16 AM
u bought madmartys BF? the one with all the goodies, the white f150 shell and G hawg tyres?

cool :D


Yeah, its looks pretty sweet. I should get it next week some time. Im already thinking about mods, especially a cover for the belt so dirt cant get in there.

Che
07-16-2004, 01:26 AM
Can anyone tell me where I can find aftermarket or hop-up parts (Tires ,Rims, Bodies Etc.?)for the Blackfoot Extreme? I am new to RC. Any help is greatly appreciated. :confused:

tl-01-jhb
08-28-2004, 10:58 PM
hi all

Just purchased a Blackfoot Extreme - this kit came with the Tamiya TEU-101BK esc. The building of the kit went perfect BUT - connected all of the electronics and when I switch on the car the esc just beeps continually and there is no response to any input from the radio - surely the steering servo should at least respond? Any ideas as to what could be causing this?

Thanks

tezix
08-29-2004, 11:54 AM
Looking for Blackfoot gears.

I've dug up my old Blackfoot and Hornet (~17 year old cars). Replaced their MSCs with ESCs, got a new motor, better battery. Now I've stripped out the Counter Gear on the Blackfoot. Saw on a online hobby store the gear bag with the right Tamiya part #, but was wondering if there was somplace to get metal (or just plain tougher) gears?

I expect two things were at play in stripping the gears; 1) their age; 2) one of the tires has broken its glue bond and I was running it that way (so I figure that rim got spinning pretty good in the tire and then caught - shred -- or something similar).

Also, any suggestions on a good inexpensive Electric Monster truck to get? Really would like to get into 4WD, but... Wouldn't mind trying a Nitro, but $$ and I want to biuld it.

Thanks

morbius801
09-08-2004, 04:04 PM
Hey all

I'm new to this forum, and I was wondering if anyone can tell me where I can find an instruction manual for a blackfoot. I found it at a yard sale and it looks likes some peices are missing or are broken. I also got a blackfoot chassis from my neighbor that is in pretty bad shape. I want to combine them and I need the manual for some parts, cuz I have no clue where they go. Any help would be great.

Thanks

tamiya4x4dryver
09-08-2004, 09:05 PM
morbious801, if you want, go to the Tamiyaclub website and you can view every page of the manual there for free. Hope that helps ya!

morbius801
09-09-2004, 08:10 AM
tamiya4x4dryver thanks for the help.

tamiya4x4dryver
09-09-2004, 11:48 AM
No problem, good luck!

PitBullio
09-21-2004, 10:46 PM
Hello, This is my first post here. I found this thread while searching for Sees aluminum wheels for the Blackfoot.

I recently got my hands on some front Sees aluminum wheels part #2002 for the Blackfoot and I'm searching for the matching "Rear" set. If anyone has a "Mom and Pop" Local hobby shop they can search, I'd greatly appreciate it. The wheels are two tone with gold anodized in the center. It's also got 10 holes going around it. I think i'll need a miracle to find the matching set :-) Thanks and very nice Blackfoots on this site. my email addy is: BluBamboo@hawaii.rr.com
Cheers,
DJ

GT Freak
10-26-2004, 11:07 PM
well, got my SBF out and it stil runs great! :) now if i can get sometype of rear body mounts made up.....

RCHavok797
01-07-2005, 07:54 AM
I need to take some pictures of my Super Blackfoot and post them here to show my snow setup. Since I locked the diff and got some new tires this thing is a beast in the snow.

RCHavok797
01-07-2005, 09:22 AM
I hope I helped you out with your body post problem GT Freak.

GT Freak
01-07-2005, 04:17 PM
I hope so too. think imight have a old set lying around I might try that idea :)

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:15 PM
Here are a bunch of pictures of my Super Blackfoot.

97 Dodge Dakota body with RPM wheels and Proline Gladiator tires. I have a set of Gladiators for my RC10GT and after using them in the snow I had to get a set for the Blackfoot.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB3.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:26 PM
Body off to show the electronics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB1.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:27 PM
Top down view without a body.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB2.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:28 PM
Original body, wheels, and tires.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB4.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:29 PM
Another original body with decal set.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB5.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:30 PM
Body pulled off another model.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB6.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:31 PM
Masher 2000 tires on chrome RPM wheels.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/SB7.jpg

RCHavok797
01-08-2005, 12:42 PM
As you can tell I have definately upgraded my Super Blackfoot. It has a Tekin Rebel esc, Team Associated Firehawk motor, Tamiya oil filled shocks with green Losi springs in the rear, RPM receiver case, TC3 rear body posts, Team Associated antenna tube and mount, Hitec steering servo, and several different wheel and tire combinations. I locked the diff with silly puddy to make it perform better in the snow and it really has made a world of difference. I water proofed the esc by using clear slicone around the seam of the case. I just purchased a new 97 Dakota body to have some fun with because I love how it looks on the truck. I used to have Ram lights on the rollbar but they have been broken for awhile. I still might pick up another set because it made it a black to run the truck at night. The only thing I really need to do is redisgn the steering system because like so many others there is a ridiculous amount of play in it. I saw the thread on RCMT about it and I might try to do something similar. There truck got me started off in the world of RC because after seeing my friends original blackfoot I had to have one. I used to have an original blackfoot that my father picked up at a swap meat but when I was younger I took it all apart and only kept the parts like the chassis and screws that I could use for my Super Blackfoot. It really is too bad I didn't keep it because all the parts where there and I did have it running at one point.

XR Mugen
01-09-2005, 06:30 PM
Hey guys, great thread here. I know I should post this in the for sale area but I did not get a response so I wanted to offer my brand new King Blackfoot with a brand new (original) Monster Beetle body kit mounted to the chassis for sale. I have not painted the body and I even mounted the Monster Beetle rear bumper. It also comes witht he original King Blackfoot body, unused of course. If someone has a good home for it I can give you a good price. PM or Email me for pics at anorman@carolina.rr.com.

RCHavok797
01-09-2005, 07:16 PM
Post some pictures of it.

XR Mugen
01-09-2005, 10:13 PM
I tried to earlier but the pictures are too large. Any idea how to reduce the size so they will post ? I can email them to you if you would like to check them out.

RCHavok797
01-10-2005, 08:31 AM
You need to use a photo editor like Microsoft Photo Editor that will allow you to change the image size. If you host the pictures on photobucket (http://www.photobucket.com) they will automatically be resized when you upload them to the site.

RCHavok797
01-11-2005, 04:10 PM
Come on guys we need to revive this thread and get others who have blackfoots and the like to discuss them here.

metric69
01-14-2005, 07:58 PM
it is from germany and it is a blackfoot extreme nock off it was bought of ebay and iam now looking to hop the thing up with lighter and more durable parts i have been looking everywhere and can only find small amounts of very few parts. It's name is a Cross Tiger but is on the same chasy as the blackfoot extreme. I have been talking with Tamiya about it and they said baclfoot parts will fit. Anyone with info about good hop ups and where to get them would be a great help to me as iam very new to this and would like to get this thing fixed up and looking and running like the big guys out there. as i get it fixed up i will start posting some pics of the progress.

RCHavok797
01-15-2005, 07:51 AM
There really aren't any hopups for it or lighter parts since it is an old truck and was never meant for racing. If you could post some pictures of what you have now that would be great and also tell us exactly what type of parts you are looking for. Ebay is the best source of parts for these vehicles.

metric69
01-15-2005, 10:03 AM
well it is something Tamiya still sells.i have been to there web page and they have it. it is also the same truck as the Twin Detonator.

metric69
01-15-2005, 10:31 AM
front of truck

metric69
01-15-2005, 10:32 AM
with body on it

metric69
01-15-2005, 10:37 AM
front right. hope these make things a little clearer to what i have and mabe there is something i can do to hop it up with different parts.

Buggysme
01-16-2005, 06:10 AM
Just looking at your truck metric69 and I'm afraid it is not a Blackfoot Xtreme chassis you have. It looks as though you have a standard TL01B chassis that is used in the Baja King and Baja Champ and has been modified to take the larger wheels etc. I think a Chinese company is making Tamiya copies. As a consequence, you may be limited in the hopups you can put on your truck if your wanting it to look more like the BFX.

h00ch
01-19-2005, 01:40 PM
I have an original Blackfoot that I need to upgrade with a new steering servo, ESC, radio, receiver, motor and shocks.

So far, I was looking at getting a Futaba MC330CR ESC (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=000670574&I=LXUY14&P=K), DuraTrax Shock Set Blue Maximum ST Pro (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&W=000670574&I=LXVU97&P=K) shocks (would these fit?) and either an Airtronics MX-3 (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXCHA8**&P=7) or Futaba 3PM (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGAG2**&P=7) radio. The Futaba is a bit more expensive than the Airtronics and does not include a servo, but would I want to use the included Airtronics servo with the Blackfoot?

Any suggestions? :)

thanks,
h00ch

RCHavok797
01-19-2005, 01:59 PM
A standard servo is fine for the Blackfoot.

h00ch
01-21-2005, 01:24 PM
Can anyone tell me if the DuraTrax shocks I mentioned in my last post would fit the Blackfoot without any modification?

thanks
h00ch

RCHavok797
01-21-2005, 02:13 PM
I believe a 3 inch shock is what you need for the original blackfoot but I'm not sure. Check back through the old posts because I'm pretty sure someone mentioned it along the lines. You won't need anything longer than 3 inches and the Duratrax ones measure 3.4 inches but you can always limit their travel with internal spacers if you need to.

RCHavok797
01-21-2005, 02:27 PM
Tamiya CVA shocks are good. But I would recommend some nice aluminum shocks from Traxxas, AE or some MAX pro ST shocks. The shocks will need to be 3 1/2 inches fully extended. I have a set of MAx Pro ST shocks on one of my Blackfoots and they work great. On my other Blackfoot I have Traxxas aluminum hard anodized shocks which are excellent.

I wouldn't recommend locking your diff becuase it will not be able to turn well at high speed or any speed for that matter.

Your truck sounds sweet! post some pictures;)

Oh yea, is it a Original, Super, or King Blackfoot? Just curiuos:cool:

This should answer your question.

RCHavok797
01-21-2005, 02:29 PM
Heres my other Blackfoot formely known as stock original Blackfoot. I now call it Blackfoot racer:D

The Hoppups are:

CRP steering blocks
CRP Heavy duty servo saver
CRP Heavy duty front suspension arms
CRP rear tranny bumper
CRP Rear body post support kit
CRP front shock tower stiffener
CRP Rear shock supports
CRP Tranny bearing supports
Aluminum oil shocks with threaded shock bodies
Parma aluminum Rear suspension bushing kit
Thorp Ball Differential
Thorp dog bones, shafts, and aluminum drive hubs
Blue sealed bearings
Imex 2.2 inch directional wheels
Proline front bumper
Proline MAsher 2.2 tires
Andy's lexan Ford Ranger Splash body
Futaba mc230cr esc
Trinity P2k2 Pro stock motor
Futaba rc system

I'm not sure what shocks those are in the pic but they look very similar to the Duratrax ones you want to get.

RCHavok797
01-21-2005, 02:35 PM
On my Super Blackfoot I have Tamiya plastic shocks like these.

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/tamc5020.jpg
Here is the link (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGG67&P=7). I got these along time ago and if I bought shocks today I would get some aluminum ones, most likely the Associated ones because I have a lot of Associated vehicle and I really like their shocks. The Tamiya ones I have work well and they don't leak at all plus I am able to run Team Losi springs on them.

r.c.dealer
01-22-2005, 01:55 PM
I'm not sure what shocks those are in the pic but they look very similar to the Duratrax ones you want to get.


Yup, those shocks are the Duratrax Max St pro shocks. The Super/King Blackfoot need 4 inch shocks unlike the 3.5 inchers on the original Blackfoot.

RCHavok797
01-22-2005, 03:41 PM
Glad to see other people are starting to post in this thread again.

h00ch
01-22-2005, 04:13 PM
Long live the Blackfoot! :D

Thanks for the help with the shocks guys. :cool:

RCHavok797
01-22-2005, 10:02 PM
I came up with a new idea for replacing the terrible stock servo saver on the Blackfoot. I modified a Super Blackfoot but it will work for the original and other similar vehicles as well. Since I have a lot of Associated vehicles it was only natural for me to try and adapt parts from them to work with the my Super Blackfoot. Below is a picture of the parts I used.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/DSCF0001.jpg

The main parts for this mod are the ones located in the bags: Associated RC10GT servo saver and Associated servo saver tube/spring. The only part in these bags that will not be used is the steering bellcrank (the piece on the bottom left of the bag on the right). The first thing you need to do is modify the lower servo saver arm so it will fit on the Blackfoot chassis without hitting. I ground it down to the correct size using a sanding drum on a dremel tool. Below is a picture of the modified lower servo saver arm compared to the unmodified servo saver bellcrank.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/DSCF0003.jpg

The key here is to leave the 2 outside holes closest to the pivoting portion of the lower servo saver arm and a good amount of material around them to avoid cracking when you go to install the ball ends. The next step is to install the ball ends into the lower servo saver arm. You can reuse the Tamiya ball ends and ball cups but you will need to drill out the holes slightly since the Tamiya ball ends are slightly larger than the Associated ones. I decided to use the Associated ball ends and ball cups because I had some blue ball ends laying around. Now you can put together the servo saver assembly. The large flanged bushing goes on the bottom of the metal tube and the small flanged bushing goes on top. Then install the metal tube through the bottom of the lower servo saver arm, making sure to line it up with the pattern on the bottom, followed by the upper servo saver arm, the spring, and finally the metal nut. You want to tighten the nut so it is flush with the top of the metal rod which should provide adequate protection for the servo and not allow any play while steering. Install an Associated ball end into the outer hole on the upper servo saver arm. On all the ball ends I also used a nut to secure them, which isn't neccessary but is something I like to do. The following steps require some 4-40 threaded rod to be used for the steering shafts and steering rod. Cut 2 pieces about 8.6mm in length for the steering shafts. Make an approximately 45 degree bend in each rod at about 1.1mm from one end. This bend is needed to clear the nut connecting the suspension arm to the chassis. Thread an Associated ball cup onto the short end of each rod and thread a Tamiya ball cup onto the long end of each rod. You will need to adjust the Taimya ball cups to get the wheels aligned properly. Cut another piece of threaded rod about 3.4mm in length to be used for the steering rod. This length may be different if you decide to use a different servo arm but with the Kimbrough arm I used this length works well. I used a titanium turnbuckle I had laying around for the steering rod. Below is a picture of the completed steering shafts, steering rod, servo saver assembly, and servo arm.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/DSCF0005.jpg

It's finally time for installation of the parts onto the Blackfoot chassis. Start with the servo saver assembly. I used a 40mm screw with a smooth shaft and threaded end taken from one of the original friction shocks of the Super Blackfoot. This screw works ok but I still want to find a slightly longer one about 45mm and one that fits a little more snug. Slide the screw through the bottom of the steering plate and then slide the servo saver assembly on top of the screw followed by an Associated nylon lock nut. It helps to remove the metal brace on the bottom of the chassis for this step. Tighten the nut down just enough to elminate any up and down play of the servo saver assembly. Install each steering shaft and the steering rod with needle nose pliers. Make sure the servo is centered and then install the servo arm so it is parallel with the upper arm of the servo saver assembly and perpendicular to the chassis. Connect the other end of the steering rod to the servo arm and adjust the steering rod so the upper arm of the servo saver assembly and the servo arm are parallel. Below is a picture of the completed setup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v151/RCHavok797/DSCF0007.jpg

RCHavok797
01-22-2005, 10:05 PM
-7531 Associated GT Servo Saver $2.39
-9158 Associated GT Servo Saver Tube/Spring $4.29
-7260 Associated Thin Nuts 4-40(12) $1.90
or
-6295 Associated Plain Nylon Lock Nuts 4-40(18) $1.90
(Includes both the nylon and metal nuts.)
-6222 Associated Self Threading Locknuts(8) $1.90
-6270 Associated Ball Joint Male 4-40(2) X 2 $2.39 each
-6274 Associated Nylon Ball Cup 4-40(14) $4.79
or
-7230 Associated Ball End Cups T3 $4.79
(Stronger ball cups.)
-111, 120, or 132 Kimbrough Servo Arm $2.39
(Which one depends on the type of servo you have.)
-LXD872 Dubro Full Threaded Rod 4-40 12''(12) $14.39
(This is just showing the type of rod you need to use because you obviosly don't need that much.)

All of these parts can be found on Tower Hobbies' website which is where the prices come from.

-Tamiya 40mm damper shaft for the original friction shocks of the Super Blackfoot.

SuperB
02-11-2005, 10:36 PM
It is awesome to come across something like this (forum) on the Blackfoot. I currently just dug out my Super Blackfoot that has been packed away since i was 14, i am now 27 and excited to restore my SB since it did get attacked by a pitbull. Awesome :D


By the way i also found some parts on ebay for the body mounts. The tree includes the front bumper, the rear body mounts, and the single front one. It is part C and he had 12 of them for about 12 bucks a tree, hope this helps. (new in bag) :)

RCHavok797
02-12-2005, 10:36 PM
Get your old Super Blackfoot up and running. I've had mine since I was 12 and I'm 22 now.

SuperB
02-13-2005, 11:32 PM
I was wondering if any one could tell me what size motor i could run with tons of torque with the stock gearbox of the Super Blackfoot? Or even a motor that would just blow me away in my back yard. I am not really looking for top speed, just something that is powerful. I'm just getting back into RC and don't really know whats out there. Thank you ahead of time.

RCHavok797
02-14-2005, 08:44 PM
Any good quality stock motor like the Trinity P2K, P2K2, Monster Horsepower Stock are very good to choose from. A good modiefied motor that should work well in the Blackfoot is the Chameleon or Chameleon 2 which are both 19 turn motors. I wouldn't run a low turn mod motor because you can't chagne the pinion gear on a blackfoot.

SuperB
02-15-2005, 06:59 AM
Thank you for your reply. I just got ahold of 3 blackfoots, 1 original, and 2 that still need to be put together. Comes with everything (radios, batteries, etc...) all for 130 bucks. He also has a couple of nitros that he wants to get rid of, one being a terra crusher(?). Reason being because they are to expensive to run. Is that true, are they pretty spendy to keep running? Never had a nitro before. Thanks

RCHavok797
02-15-2005, 10:00 PM
Wow 3 Blackfoots for $130 nice deal. I have a RC10GT and I don't consider it a huge expense to run. Unless he is running the thing for hours each day and is going through a ton of fuel, I don't consider owning a nitro vehicle any more expensive than owning an electric.

overland
02-20-2005, 05:37 PM
Hello All. Great to see a forum like this.
Just recently dug up my old Original Blackfoot after a 10+ year retirement I have not looked into the hobby scene since the early 90's. So Im kinda out of the loop.
Does anyone know of an aftermarket Hub for a Blackfoot? I seem to remember getting a hoped up motor and shatering the hub. Then I decided to glue and screw the hub to the wheel. It turned out to be so great, a friend asked to borow it and the rest is history.
Im going to be running an old Novak 410-M1C and A Monster-Mash motor whats a good battery to be running these days with that combination? I don't even know if this stuff is still going to work. :D
Is there another Forum for blackfoot enthusiast's?

Spec's on my rig:

All ball bearings
JB welded Diff
Pinion Kit, One for wheelies, One for lightspeed.
Rear Oil shocks
Parma 80's chev stepside body & Original Ramblin Ron body

Have a Gooder.

RCHavok797
02-23-2005, 06:54 PM
There really aren't any aftermarket parts for the Blackfoot any longer since it has been out of production for a long time. The first thing you should do is check ebay for a replacement. As for another forum check out www.rcmt.net (http://www.rcmt.net) In order to view the forum you need to register and get approved first but it shouldn't take any longer than a day to do so. Before you look into some new batteries what kind of charger do you have? If you do happen to have a peak charger then it won't be able to charge the new kind of batteries out there, nimh cells. Along with some new batteries you might want to consider a new charger as well. Nicd are still made and they have much higher capacities than they used to.

RCHavok797
03-12-2005, 09:03 AM
Back to the top.

Daft Bat
03-27-2005, 04:43 AM
i have a king black foot im running a jade speed gem 2 (15 turn) and i filled the diff with epoxy cement to make it posi, i have a custom metal front bumper and a "wheelie bar" made of a piece of copper pipe it goes like a bat outta hell the body is totally thrashed (no tailgate left) >.< i will post pics of the beast soon

RCHavok797
03-30-2005, 08:33 PM
Cannot wait to see a picture of that beast.

FRANKIECMGT
04-03-2005, 10:40 PM
hey havok...
sounds like you are a blackfoot pro....but you were wrong on them not making a adjustable motor mount for the blackfoot...crp made one for the frog which has the same gear box...just in case you didn't know....

RCHavok797
04-06-2005, 08:43 PM
Good to know.

MiataMe
05-30-2005, 06:53 PM
Hey, great to find this forum...damn to think that when I first got my Black Foot the internet didn't even exist...wow I'm getting old! haha
To my point. I just pulled my BF out of the closet and it has been a few years since it has ran. What I'd love to do is replace a few worn parts (mostly the body mount posts) and get a new body (does anyone know if that new HPI Jeep Wrangler body fits the BF?). All four tires wobble pretty bad and the shocks and springs are sagged. So where is a good source for BF parts here in the states? Anyone with spares they'd sell?

jocktheglide165
05-31-2005, 06:41 AM
I just bought a used blackfoot came with box and a lot of stuff off ebay.

MiataMe
05-31-2005, 08:28 PM
I just bought a used blackfoot came with box and a lot of stuff off ebay.
Cool, do you have any extra body mount posts?:)

maxxracer227
06-03-2005, 11:58 AM
hi. im kinda new. anyhow, anyone know where i can get the plastic drive hubs for the original Blackfoot? i went to switch diffs and found out i don't have them. :confused: right now im running the Thorp that was in it when i got it.

MiataMe
06-03-2005, 09:27 PM
hi. im kinda new. anyhow, anyone know where i can get the plastic drive hubs for the original Blackfoot? i went to switch diffs and found out i don't have them. :confused: right now im running the Thorp that was in it when i got it.

I found the body mounts at my hobby shop. Only charged me $2 for them.
Now I'm looking for oil-filled shocks and springs that fit the original Black Foot. Anybody?

clun01
06-23-2005, 10:09 PM
do you know where i can get two of this kind of axle? i was doing so backyard bashing and broke one. :( im not shure where these came from because i got it off ebay.the whole truck is highly modified.

can someone help me? :)

here is the link to the pic. just ingore the other words, i had to put it on my main homepage cause i couldnt get it work on here.

http://hometown.aol.com/clun01/myhomepage/profile.html

that axle is exactly 2 1/2 inches long.

thanks in advance! :D

h00ch
06-24-2005, 11:41 AM
Need a much clearer picture than that. Make sure your camera is in macro mode when doing close-ups.

clun01
06-24-2005, 01:21 PM
ok, i have another one, hold on. do you need a clser one or a futher away one and above it?

clun01
06-24-2005, 01:25 PM
ok, check it now.

is that better

clun01
06-25-2005, 03:20 PM
i think that is a super baclkfoot axle. is there a blackfoot and a super blackfoot? or are they the same thing.

anvilj29
07-04-2005, 09:54 AM
Does anyone know were to shim the the blackfoot so the trans stops slipping?
Or does anyone know where to find after-market rear axle so i can get rid of the Hex Drive. I know thor made the years ago and now dont make r/c parts anymore.

FESTER2004
07-20-2005, 02:30 AM
heres the blackfoot i just got threw ebay for 50 bucks,its missing the tailgate n it needs a good cleaning!might make it my winter resto project!i donmt know if it runs yet. it wont let me repost pics here if u wanna see it check out the thread "ebay score!" ok!

rcchopshop
08-13-2005, 09:16 PM
New to this forum, great to see it! I have tons of Blackfoot parts.

thejuice87311
08-23-2005, 09:11 PM
:D
hey thats a real nice lookin blackfoot. im gonna fix up my friends for him and i cant find any replacement parts. do u know of any sites that would be good. i want 2 make it look as stock as possible. i think it got driven through the pond in his back yard so the electronics have got to be shot. if u could help i would appreciate it

thejuice87311
08-25-2005, 09:09 PM
does anybody know the # of turns on the stock motor for a super black foot

poppasmurf
08-28-2005, 12:15 PM
I just dug out my king blackfoot after a few years rest. It has gold duratrax aluminum shocks and they leak oil like crazy. Im looking for a nice inexpensive aluminum pair. Im just wondering what other people recomend, i like the sound of the traxxas shocks but i would like them to have some color.. ill post a picture later tonight when i get home.

thejuice87311
08-28-2005, 08:33 PM
who makes bodies that can fit a super blackfoot. also does anyone nkow where i can get body posts for it? somehow those got torn off

thejuice87311
08-28-2005, 08:44 PM
also who makes rims and tires that can fit a superblack foot. they're pretty old now. it still runs awesome i drove it at my grandmas and i was jumpin curbs and stuff but the stock shocks took a beating ;) . still holds up really nice. im in love. whats the least # of turns i can get out of that esc?

thejuice87311
08-28-2005, 08:45 PM
i mean the stock MSC

thejuice87311
08-28-2005, 08:46 PM
another question here. lol. why is everybodys chassis read when mine is gold. i dont know if the original owner painted the red parts gold or what. help me out on this one

thejuice87311
08-28-2005, 08:47 PM
i mean RED.

poppasmurf
09-01-2005, 06:30 PM
This is my blackfoot

Has: LRP runner ESC with extra heat sink
Duratrax shocks (crap)
speed gems 2 19turn with 10 tooth pinion
chrome rims
Bearings all around
futuba radio and streering servo
Bigfoot decals for original body
blackfoot on racing/bashing body

poppasmurf
09-01-2005, 06:31 PM
This is my blackfoot

Has: LRP runner ESC with extra heat sink
Duratrax shocks (crap)
speed gems 2 19turn with 10 tooth pinion
chrome rims
Bearings all around
futuba radio and streering servo
Bigfoot decals for original body
blackfoot on racing/bashing body

this is another view

Tyrael1986
09-13-2005, 05:40 PM
That's a nice one. here's mine :D

Thorp Differential
Aluminum Wheels
Monster Beetle Oil Shocks
Carolina Mountain Mod Motor 15x3
Futaba ESC & Servos
Full Ball Bearings
Original 1986 Blackfoot Frame & Hard Molded Body
Monster Beetle Steering Arms
Custom Made Motor Heat-Sink
Original Midnight Pumpkin Tires

I'm sure I'm missing A LOT of mods/hop-ups but there is just to many to list.

Tyrael1986
09-13-2005, 05:41 PM
The other picture.

Jon Foster
10-17-2005, 11:14 PM
I just stumbled onto this site and couldn't believe how long running this thread is. One of my first "real" RC's was a Blackfoot. It was a sweet RC in it's time! Man I wish I still had it too. I think I got it in 1987... It had a black metallic paint job with most of the stock decals. If I can find a picture I'll post it but I'm not sure how good the pictures were so they may not be the best quality... I still have my second Blackfoot. I took it in trade for some computer work six or seven years ago. It's pretty rough but I've never even run it.

Jon.

Saito
10-25-2005, 07:13 PM
clun01 asked if the Blackfoot was different then the Super Blackfoot and the answer is yes. The SBF introduced many changes. Normal dogbones replaced the old BF's hex-drive half shafts (good idea Tamiya, but they stripped out far too easily) The rear shocks were mounted vertically for better action. The body was also suspisiously absent of Ford logos as well despite being nearly indentical the the original BF's.

I remember Blackfoot racing as fun stuff. It came onto the scene and stomped the Big Bear racers of the time. For a long time the Blackfoot was THE truck until the conversion truck craze struck. Boy did the Blackfoot racers cry foul when RC10 and Ultima conversions took over. Funny, espesially since the Blackfoot was a "factory" conversion truck of sorts...a Frog!

snoop
10-29-2005, 03:54 PM
hi new here, here are a couple of pics of my king blackfoot, im looking for some chrome wheels. just painted and stickered her up! =)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/dannyboyza4/DSC00289.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/dannyboyza4/DSC00290.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v738/dannyboyza4/DSC00284.jpg

blackfootnewb
11-16-2005, 12:39 AM
ok heres the cathch just got an old black foot from a pawn shop all futaba controls and sevos exc... i think its original motor and tranny and the shocks r horizontal body has been repainted and i want sum hop ups/good rims shocks better motor and stuff for it i need to no wht type it is thoe alls i no is its prolly bout 10years old it runs thank god and need a lil fixen so if u could send me an email with sum info. or places to get more info i would love it thx to all big-al

ps email me at bigxalxforge@aol.com :D

smoove
12-30-2005, 04:57 AM
Approximately what is the weight of the Blackfoot Extreme? Is there room for a Tamiya heatsink?

crawler77
01-17-2006, 11:38 AM
first off hi fellow blackfoot owners..i have a question and been looking everywere for help i have a foot and a monster beelte and well my question is is there a set of rims and tires that were an upgrade in the 80's that allowed the used of bigger tires...bigger then 2.2....like clod size? i got some rims and adapters but not sure what tires will fit the rims...can someone here help?

heres a pic of my project foot and rims

heres the rims

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/mq77/blackfoottiresandrim001.jpg

and side view
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/mq77/blackfoottiresandrim002.jpg

and a pic of my blackfoot and my monster beetle

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/mq77/tamyiavinatgeandminit005.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y83/mq77/tamyiavinatgeandminit008.jpg

FESTER2004
03-23-2006, 12:04 AM
heres a pics of my tamiya blackfoot extreme i recently put together.it has full metal ball bearings from japan threw ebay. its has the tamiya esc n futaba 2 stick radio.a friend of mine painted the body which i got at a swap meet last summer.enjoy:

FESTER2004
04-03-2006, 12:11 AM
i took my extreme blackfoot out to play n i have to glue the tires to the rims cuz the rims spin to freely inside the tire resulting in loss of traction/speed.besides that it is a fun truck!

i am gonna upgrade the motor soon i hope.

thestreet
05-22-2006, 09:45 PM
Just purchased a Super Blackfoot and was wondering what other bodies can fit onto the frame ? and where i can get a few spares from
Thanks

XXWoodmanXX
06-04-2006, 09:08 PM
Man-o-man, it feels SOOOOO good to be back into the hobby once again, after a 10 yr hiatus. After I got out of the service I sold all my R/Cs (RC10B, RC10T, TA02, Optima w/ belt drive, Bolink stock car, Traxxas Rustler, Monster Beetle, etc) and starting a family, we now have a little extra cash to spend.

And, thankfully, the wife allows me to (hey, at least I'm not in the bars, right?) so I got myself a Blackfoot.

Now *crosses fingers* ...how easy is it to get ahold of some Thorp diffs and CVDs? (do they still call them CVDs?) Oh well, ...I know that HPI called them CVDs for my RC10T :p

XXWoodmanXX
06-10-2006, 01:38 AM
Question for some of you BF owners,

Has anyone modded the servo location or servo arm so that the steering geometry doesn't do that major toe-in problem during landing from jumps?

thestreet
06-15-2006, 09:34 PM
Does anyone know how to change the differential in a King Blackfoot, i just bought one and the diff is locked, i am supposed to have been given another one but have no clue what i'm doing, any help would be good, thanks

XXWoodmanXX
06-15-2006, 10:42 PM
Go HERE (http://www.tamiyaclub.com/manual.asp?id=198) for a page by page list of the assembly instructions (via Adobe Acrobat) and just reverse the steps to remove the differential, then replace it rebuilt, or w/ a new one.

It's a very versatile part group, found in numerous tamiya setups, so you're bound to find it online.

Hope that helps! :)

XXWoodmanXX
06-15-2006, 11:11 PM
Does anyone know where I can find some compatible CVAs for this?

Ibjamn552
06-28-2006, 11:52 PM
Does anyone know where I can find some compatible CVAs for this?
as far as i know there isn't any other to fit it.The only things I have seen is every bluemoon , someone sells some on e-bay. The best bet might be finding a rolling chassis with them already installed :( If we all cross our fingers, maybe somebody will make some aftermarket parts for the frog? So we can intergrate them into our old stuff? longshot, i know.

projectzip
07-23-2006, 07:16 AM
Hi guys Joe here from Luton in the UK just been out thrashing my King Blackfoot about I have two originals as well ones spare parts and the other will run again hopefully!
Love some of the mods you guys have done ive just had to order new front wishbones after some heavy jumps and keeping the local farmers dog ammused for a while!
Ill post pics later when I get chance to take some (I enjoy driving it then taking pics)
Joe

thestreet
07-23-2006, 10:34 AM
Does anyone know where i can find some oil filled shocks from, want to start jumping my King and super blackfoot, the standard shocks are pants !
Will post some pics when the sun comes out :)
Thanks

thestreet
07-23-2006, 07:02 PM
Here are my two boys :D

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/gmpartsbarn/IMG_0009.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/gmpartsbarn/IMG_0010.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/gmpartsbarn/IMG_0011.jpg

XXWoodmanXX
07-23-2006, 10:21 PM
thestreet,

Any aftermarket 4" shock should work perfectly. I'm currently using a set of Kyosho alum. shocks w. ultra-soft Losi springs in the front, and Associated Med. springs in the rear.

Speaking of which, here she is: :cool:

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c167/roy_woody/BF2.jpg

thejuice87311
07-24-2006, 06:16 PM
uh ohh i was working on the super blackfoot the other day and the yoke that comes off of the driveshaft snapped because somehow the cvd fell off. it was worn down then when i put it back in it broke. do i have to buy a new tranny somehow or is there something else?

XXWoodmanXX
07-24-2006, 07:02 PM
juice,

One thing I've realized in R/C (especially Tamiya brand) And that is, always have some back-up/spare parts. I plan on buying a spart chassis A-arms, steering equip, etc.....just in the event I hit a curb, or do a nasty tumble. :p

thejuice87311
07-24-2006, 07:22 PM
very true. i always do but i was at home. but that yoke on the superblackfoot looks riveted to the tranny. it looks like i have to buy a new tranny. do you know where to get one

XXWoodmanXX
07-24-2006, 09:08 PM
I doubt Tower or any online retailer would be carrying one. Ebay, I assume? Or, try the Wanted forums :)

thejuice87311
07-25-2006, 12:23 PM
my dad actually found the piece we needed at tower. i was amazed

Dave_MacKinnon
08-01-2006, 11:26 PM
Ahoy fellow R/C enthusiasts..

I was given Super Blackfoot last weekend with several sets of wheels and tires and a few bodies. There are several missing steering linkage parts and no rear shocks, but I have already taken care of that stuff. I have an ESC coming tomorrow and just need to wire it all up and get it running for the long weekend.

I need to get a better radio as well - though I think some of the stock parts I won't be using will be popular around here with you guys restoring their rides back to stock. My daily driver is a project car for a car magazine here in Toronto, so I don't think my 'toy' ride will be all that stock either.

I just got a line on a Clodbuster for gratis as well.. Sounds like I am going to be a truck guy without even trying..

Anyways, I am thrilled to see so much support for this retro product... have I mentioned that the internet rocks?

projectzip
08-03-2006, 01:54 PM
Hi Guys was browsing this forum the other day and somewhere I came across a 4wdblackfoot made from two chassis back to back anyone kno where i can find it??

Dave_MacKinnon
08-03-2006, 01:59 PM
Quick update -

Got the truck running last night.. Likes to do wheelies and crush the body when I stand on it... Very cool and adequately quick...

Does anyone know a P/N for a body that would fit nicely, I'd love to try my hand at painting my own...

projectzip
08-08-2006, 02:46 AM
Bored at work today enjoy me arsing around with my Blackfoot!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_53Erd-Cx4

backlashjt1975
08-10-2006, 09:58 AM
try ebay, they always sell good there

projectzip
08-11-2006, 06:07 AM
Well here she is I just finished a new shell for it last night!
Its a Parma 97 Bigfoot shell with the Logo from a magazine I write for on it.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/projectzip/rccar.jpg

FESTER2004
10-26-2006, 01:25 AM
just got this 1 in the mail today,i also have a king blackfoot on the way!

FESTER2004
11-03-2006, 02:52 AM
i got this king blackfoot the other day in the mail,i also have a super blackfoot on the waytoo!

FESTER2004
11-10-2006, 07:14 PM
i got this 1 today to

ukjuggler
12-29-2006, 01:19 PM
Hi guys!

Having just got the truck below today I thought I'd check out the forums, so here I am! Happy New Year Guys!

The truck is in great condition, although the steering is a bit too soggy so needs a little looking at once I've worked out how to get inside. Looks like half a million screws and half stripping it down to get in there! Surely its not that hard? Well when I find a manual online, I'll takle a look.

But here it is! The new arrival! A welcome return for me to r/c! Theres an old Grasshopper and a TA03R stored somewhere still I think.

Oh, and the Baileys bottles where Christmas presents, no drunk driving here....yet....need a few more shots and a few pints still for that! :wave:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l8/ukjuggler/KingBlackfoot.jpg

tamiyacam
12-29-2006, 08:53 PM
yay. just got myself a king blackfoot too. I'm new to r/c so just a quick question to start. my battery is only lasting about 10mins?is that good. does the mah on a battery give it a longer running time. I have open her up and lubricated? spray grease inside the gearing case and silicone spray around the bearings and steering joints and any other moving parts I could find, :confused: I'll take her out tomorrow and find out if that will have done any good. I've got new bearings, esc, motor and shocks on the way. anything else to make it growl some more

ukjuggler
12-30-2006, 07:11 AM
All sounds good maintenance! the lube sprays will help, new bearings are
always a bonus. The drive time doesn't sound so bad, I assume its a 6 cell
7.2v? If its an old battery it might be worth investing in a new one,
rechargeables do have a limited lifespan and will run down faster as they get old.

MaH usually means Milliamp Hours but I''ve been out of this sort of thing a
while myself and am ashamed to say I can't remember if thats what it
relates to in this case.

ukjuggler
12-30-2006, 07:18 AM
As for me, I've just spent a half hour looking at the steering on my KB.
Theres a hell of a lot of play in it, really loose and the wheels rattle from
side to side way more than I think I'm, happy with.

I tracked the problem down to the point where the steering anchors
to the chassis at the servo saver. Theres that bolt that goes thru
the saver and locks to the chassis, a brass bearing tube is between
the saver and the bolt.

Having stripped it, cleaned it and rebuilt it the looseness is still there.
I don't know if its just wear and tear thats caused it and a new sbearing
sleeve would solve it or if its just acceptable.

Any advice guys?

tamiyacam
01-03-2007, 01:08 PM
hiya juggler and welcome back to rc. if you look on page 13 on this forum rchavok has posted a solution to this problem. I need to sort mine out aswell. :eek:

soundnstyl
01-10-2007, 09:31 AM
Any have the owners manual for the old (i bought mine in the 80's-early 90's) Please let me know. If you have it please email it to me at waterfish88@gmail.com... I would be most grateful.

tamiyacam
01-10-2007, 02:53 PM
you can find the manual online at http://www.tamiyaclub.com/manuals.asp. hope this helps.

tim126
01-14-2007, 08:21 PM
WOOHOO, a Blackfoot forum!!

My stuff all got thrown out 10 years ago :(

Just bought a new frog, and a used blackfoot.

I'd love to find a king blackfoot but none are on ebay. Anyone have a source?

tamiyacam
01-17-2007, 05:30 PM
Hi tim and welcome. they do pop up on ebay. I got mine over christmas and have just killed it. I managed to snap the front arms from the chassis. doh! we have a skatepark in the village and was doing some jumps and we all know how the steering can be and bang she went into a post. I should of got some pics. can I use any other cheap shells anyone, or know where I can get another KB shell. got all new parts coming apart from shell

suckfish
01-22-2007, 11:16 AM
i've got a used King Blackfoot in great condition..

Yknot
01-28-2007, 10:13 PM
Anyone know how to fix an old slipping Blackfoot tranny?

Yknot

tim126
01-29-2007, 05:48 PM
Anyone know how to fix an old slipping Blackfoot tranny?

Yknot

That all depends on what exactly is slipping. If the trans is fairy worn out, I'd just pick up some new replacement gears from eBay and do a rebuild.

Make sure you use ball bearings in it, as the plastic bushings are a main reason the trans starts slipping.

Yknot
01-29-2007, 07:01 PM
To tim126
Thankyou for the hints on fixing the Blackfoot tranny. I am sorry it took so long to respond. I am a new member and still struggling with navigating a BB Forum. I get in but can't find my way back to where i was.

My Black foot is in very good shape except for the tranny. I would like to get this ole classic back to it's glory days operation. It has real cool aluminum rims with ball bearings (real expensive back in the day). I put a replacement tranny in it I bought as a parts car before christmas and it ran great for 30m secs. then crapped out worse than my orginal.

Since I am still haveing navigation issues with this BB. If I do not reply to your response in 24 hrs assume I am stuck again and e-mail me at cbenson06@comcast.net with the subject line BLACKFOOT Help.

Thanks

Tamiya84
01-29-2007, 07:09 PM
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/HobbySeller/DSCF2014.jpg

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/HobbySeller/DSCF2009.jpg


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/HobbySeller/DSCF2007.jpg


And parts Glore, in the parts is a full thorp tranny gear box dog bones and aluminum hubs Mawahaha

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o27/HobbySeller/DCFC0005-3.jpg

Yknot
01-29-2007, 07:31 PM
Thanks but I don't want anymore old parts, I want to know exactly how to improve the one I have or replace it with a new and improved part perhaps off the new revived Blackfoot or Frog.

Needler56
02-21-2007, 10:42 AM
can the original blackfoot handle a brushless system?

Ibjamn552
02-23-2007, 11:48 PM
ummmmm.......... doubt it. :eek: why would you? maybe the novak super stock system ?

Needler56
02-24-2007, 09:38 AM
ummmmm.......... doubt it. :eek: why would you? maybe the novak super stock system ?

i just seen a brushless lunchbox on youtube and i've always wanted a blackfoot and thought it'd be cool and reading through the boards, seems unlikely. what's the lowest turn motor that this truck can handle?

what's this i'm readying about the gear box pulling a part? would threadlock on the screws fix that?

Old_School_RC_1
03-02-2007, 06:21 AM
I was running a novak 5800 in my modified king blackfoot (just for fun) and the dogbones disintegrated after about 10 runs. Wore the pins right off. Drive cups on the diff and axle were fine though.

other than that, handled it ok as long as you took it easy - just be sure to stock up on dogbones :) I wouldn't run it in the original style blackfoot with those old hex dogbones - just wouldn't hold up.

just my $.02

Needler56
03-02-2007, 10:32 AM
I was running a novak 5800 in my modified king blackfoot (just for fun) and the dogbones disintegrated after about 10 runs. Wore the pins right off. Drive cups on the diff and axle were fine though.

other than that, handled it ok as long as you took it easy - just be sure to stock up on dogbones :) I wouldn't run it in the original style blackfoot with those old hex dogbones - just wouldn't hold up.

just my $.02

so what's a 5800 equivalent to for brushed? tower states that the 4300 is a 27t. basically, at first i was going to use a 300amp foward brushed esc with a 10x1 motor, then after reading through the threads, i may use a 15t to 17t instead.

Old_School_RC_1
03-06-2007, 06:46 AM
so what's a 5800 equivalent to for brushed? tower states that the 4300 is a 27t. basically, at first i was going to use a 300amp foward brushed esc with a 10x1 motor, then after reading through the threads, i may use a 15t to 17t instead.

I'm not sure - it says 8.5 T on the can, but i don't think it's a direct comparison. I would say roughly 13-15t brushed would be a good close bet. It hauls though, no doubt about it. Ihe king would lift the front wheels at 1/2 throttle easily. Definitely not a 27t.

I have since moved the system over to my stampede - the transmission handles the power better. The king blackfoot is back to plain old johnson silver can power for the winter, and to save some $$ on replacing those dogbones.

Needler56
03-06-2007, 09:31 AM
cool. what exactly does the thorp tranny fix and how much can that handle?

Old_School_RC_1
03-07-2007, 06:39 AM
If i remember correctly, (and please someone correct me if i am mistaken) the thorpe conversion replaced the stock geared differential and hexagonal hafl shafts with a ball diff/dogbone set-up. Much more durable and smoother. I had an original blackfoot back in the day, and I remember the hex drives clicking and binding quite a bit after a while. The thorpe conversion should eliminate that. As far as what it could handle, I assume pretty much anything as long as you don't go totally nuts with the power. Factor in wear and tear though, parts are hard to find as well.

If you are looking to restore an older truck into a modern day runner, check out the frog re-release - you might be able to find it for almost what you'd pay for the Thorpe conversion at this point. It has very stout diff cups and dogbones that should bolt right in, and 3 different spur gears that you could use to experiment with gearing. You might have to figure out how to adjust the pinion though - stock, it's non adjustable. I was thinking of taking that set-up and putting in on the king BF just to experiment, but haven't gotten around to it quite yet.

Needler56
03-07-2007, 10:00 AM
If i remember correctly, (and please someone correct me if i am mistaken) the thorpe conversion replaced the stock geared differential and hexagonal hafl shafts with a ball diff/dogbone set-up. Much more durable and smoother. I had an original blackfoot back in the day, and I remember the hex drives clicking and binding quite a bit after a while. The thorpe conversion should eliminate that. As far as what it could handle, I assume pretty much anything as long as you don't go totally nuts with the power. Factor in wear and tear though, parts are hard to find as well.

If you are looking to restore an older truck into a modern day runner, check out the frog re-release - you might be able to find it for almost what you'd pay for the Thorpe conversion at this point. It has very stout diff cups and dogbones that should bolt right in, and 3 different spur gears that you could use to experiment with gearing. You might have to figure out how to adjust the pinion though - stock, it's non adjustable. I was thinking of taking that set-up and putting in on the king BF just to experiment, but haven't gotten around to it quite yet.

thanks. i just recently purchased an original BF on ebay, i'll see how it runs then look into the frog re-release. is the frog re-release an exact original or did they re-release it with the better transmission?

Old_School_RC_1
03-07-2007, 08:04 PM
thanks. i just recently purchased an original BF on ebay, i'll see how it runs then look into the frog re-release. is the frog re-release an exact original or did they re-release it with the better transmission?

everything is the same except the dogbones, oil shocks in the rear (waaaaaay too stiff by the way) and it comes with 3 pinions and 3 spurs to adjust gear ratios.

theoreticially, you should be able to take out the entire gearbox and drop it in an original BF. (but i have never officially tried)

Needler56
03-09-2007, 03:52 PM
everything is the same except the dogbones, oil shocks in the rear (waaaaaay too stiff by the way) and it comes with 3 pinions and 3 spurs to adjust gear ratios.

theoreticially, you should be able to take out the entire gearbox and drop it in an original BF. (but i have never officially tried)

i JUST recieved my BF in the mail yesteday and it definately brings back that nostalgic feeling! now that i'm able to see the transmission and axel assembly first hand, i can see where problems may arise. i was doing some research on the internet and these are some frog parts i found on ebay and towerhobbies:
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/tamc1393.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/bratoutdrives.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/b35b_1.jpg
now, that ball diff, is that pretty much what the thorp ball diff is?

old school rc, are these the parts you were referring to? also, what's the tamtech frog?

Old_School_RC_1
03-10-2007, 08:59 AM
Yup, that's them! looking at the middle pic, that what the frog comes with. those bones are very thick, they will only work with the output shafts and axles designed for them. here's a pic comparing the frog shaft to a standard tamiya shaft - very stout!

The top pic is the upgrade CVD set for the frog.

I'm not sure what the ball diff is....is that the Thorpe?

Old_School_RC_1
03-10-2007, 09:03 AM
oh, and the tamtech frog is a 1/18 version thats out, Tamiya's answer to the current mini craze. it's the GB01 chassis, same as the mini Hornet, Fox, etc.

this should be a link to the chassis: http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/57102gb_01/top.jpg

Needler56
03-10-2007, 11:09 AM
i was comparing pictures on the net, i think that is the thorp ball diff.

i got a chance to test and tune the truck. the diff wasn't engaging when i recieved the truck so i rebuilt it and it ran fine with an rs540 motor. i wanted to see the limits of the transmission so first i tried a traxxas titan 550 motor and it was like day and night as for torque. then used a towerhobbies speed secret 14x4 and the truck really started moving. last, went out on a limb and dropped in a trinity dirtinator 10x1 and that thing really hauled!

after i was done with the dirtinator, again, the diff wasn't engaging. i rebuilt it, tires would spin off the ground, but not on the ground. i added some shims to the gearbox joints inside, which seemed to work then the transmission started spinning again with no truck movement.

turns out, the hex on the dogbones arounded out, which i believe played a big part in the problem.

now, would it be better to get the universals? because i was able to pull the dogbones right out with little force.

what's the story behind the transmission, i've read about the gearbox plates splitting apart, but mine still feel very tight. or, do the plates just flex causing the diff to separate? or is the main problem just the diffs?

Old_School_RC_1
03-11-2007, 11:50 AM
hex rounding is always the issue... :) they were never meant for today's power, that for sure.

hmm...i would guess that either the universals or dogbones would work ok - just a matter of how much you want to spend. if you can afford the universals, go for it!

The easiest way to find out what is going on with the transmission is to first fix the dogbone situation to eliminate that as a factor, the do some runs to see if you still have problems. if the trans is slipping or making noises, open it up and see what is getting torn apart - if it's slipping internally, something gotta be getting torn up in there. Crappy answer, but my best guess.

i would say focus on the differential - it's not 'sealed' in that the pressure of the trans side plates holds it together, not a set of screws so if you are running high power in there, there could certainly be some deflection somewhere. but it would have to be pretty extreme to cause it to really bend to the point where nothing's making contact. I've never had a problem with the transmission internally, only the hexes so i'm throwing out guesses at this point. Also, no idea how old the truck is, could be some really worn gears in there as well - a new set would be a cheap investment.

Old_School_RC_1
03-11-2007, 12:00 PM
Some pics of my KBF
- dyed the chassis for a better look
- full bearings
- oil shocks front and rear
- currently running a 22x1 kyosho mega motor and Futaba speed control
- some 'home mods' front and rear to give a little more suspension travel
- traxxas wheels and stock tires.
- most definitely NOT a shelf queen.

Needler56
03-11-2007, 12:37 PM
truck looks great! my gears look fine and the truck was in relatively good condition when i recieved it. i'll troubleshoot with the dog bones first, i have a good feeling it may be there. i'll definately stay away from the hot mod motors that's for sure!

btw, is the thorp differential only to be used with thorp joints and axels? again, thanks for your input!

Old_School_RC_1
03-12-2007, 07:30 AM
Thanks!

hmm - not sure. should be a 'std.' dogbone size (looked it in the picture,) but i have no idea what the length would be. i have a ton in my parts bin from my tamiya kits i've accumulated over the years - there would have to be something close in there. possibly a ta02 or ta03 size - just a hunch, but i'd bet they'd work. Try searching this post also if you haven't already - i'm sure someone has tried.

You'll definitely need the axles, though i imagine KBF or SBF axles would works also.

MonsterBeetleGuy
04-10-2007, 06:41 AM
Mostly stock...custom painted body by my buddy B...chrome King foot rims...Moab tires...TXT shocks...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/monsterbeetleguy/Picture078.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/monsterbeetleguy/Picture079.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/monsterbeetleguy/Picture074.jpg
custom painted driver...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v492/monsterbeetleguy/Picture080.jpg

Brad
bandmswisher@aol.com

Needler56
04-10-2007, 09:10 AM
looks great! especially with the wheels and tires.

MonsterBeetleGuy
04-10-2007, 09:18 AM
Thanks...I got it off a member on this board probably 2.5 years ago...I came with a stock king foot body too plus the Monster Beetle shell shown...I sold it to a good friend of mine but ended up trading back for it minus the King foot shell...He painted the body and kept the Foot body. I am still undecided about putting some decals to give it that Sand Scorcher look...

Brad
bandmswisher@aol.com

Needler56
04-10-2007, 10:43 AM
what kind of electrics do you have in it? or is it a show car?

MonsterBeetleGuy
04-11-2007, 02:33 AM
It has a Futaba receiver in it with a new DTX-4 ESC with a Tamiya Sport tuned motor. It's RTR if i ever decide to run it but it never has and probably never will...at least not with the Body on it. It also has custom machined billet mirrors and hand-painted license plates on it as well

Needler56
04-11-2007, 10:35 AM
i recently picked up an original blackfoot on ebay and considering the age and supposedly the severe usage, it was in great shape, but not mint. the original owner detailed the body pretty well. i actually rolled it a couple times not realizing how heavy the body is. i'm going to stop running it with the body on and get a parma blackfoot body

MonsterBeetleGuy
04-11-2007, 12:25 PM
good move on the Lexan body..will be a little faster as will be lighter and not and not roll as much from being top heavy. the trannies are usually a weak spot. With the re-release of the Frog you should order the rear shaft kit as it uses pin and bone shafts instead of the hex dogbones...less likely to strip out. Good luck with the truck and post up some pics!

Brad

Needler56
04-11-2007, 07:41 PM
here you go!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/BF026rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/BF028rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/BF022rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/BF021rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/BF038rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/BF043rcca.jpg

Tamiya4ever
04-14-2007, 10:53 PM
Hey Monsterbeetle guy. Nice truck. I am going to work on my Blackfoot Extreme soon, brand new in the box, but waiting on a Tamiya body and going for some Moab tires and HPI rims.

MonsterBeetleGuy
04-16-2007, 05:33 AM
Nice Foot there Needler...I restored one several years ago like that in box art fashion...Also a Monster Beetle as well...But I'm not much of that style so they didnt stay around long...Box art is just so boring...gotta make things different...

The BF extreme isnt much of a BF if you ask me....except in name...call me old fashioned...but it it doesnt have the frog based frame it aint a Foot...

Old_School_RC_1
04-17-2007, 05:53 PM
I agree - the Super and King BF were a nice evolution, but not a fan of the extreme. Like the body, but that's about it.

Tamiya84
04-17-2007, 08:21 PM
Heres mine redone, I think its going on ebay soon :)


http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/100_0769.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/100_0767.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/100_0766.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/100_0765.jpg

When i was building i couldnt decide which tire to go with :)
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/DSCN0133.jpg


Under the body
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/DSCN0131.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/DSCN0130.jpg


The start of the Build
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/Blackfoot1986/100_0733.jpg

Needler56
04-17-2007, 11:52 PM
great pics tamiya84! will you opt out for another truck?

Tamiya84
04-18-2007, 06:11 AM
what do you mean like trade it for another truck? Yea id think about it depending on what it was, the truck is very clean ive owned it over 2 years which is a record for me. I still have a ton of parts for it.

Needler56
04-18-2007, 09:48 AM
or if you were going to get another truck after you got rid of yours.

Tamiya84
04-18-2007, 03:07 PM
yea i think i have a Monster beelte in the mail :) Is anyone intrested in buying my Blackfoot? Next truck i get is gonna be 4x4 electric or nitro and im going to make it a mud truck

Needler56
04-23-2007, 01:14 AM
i picked up that parma replica body thinking i was just going to paint it black and be done with it, but ended up doing a little project. added some spare decals and roll bar with the kc daylighters. body is hellav a lot lighter than the abs one!
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/mbaqotters030rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/mbaqotters031rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/mbaqotters058rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/mbaqotters062rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/mbaqotters067rcca.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b11/Needler56/mbaqotters069rcca.jpg

Needler56
04-24-2007, 10:49 AM
does anyone know the final drive ratio?

Tamiya84
04-24-2007, 09:32 PM
Looks sweet man ill post when my truck is on ebay

Tamiya84
05-22-2007, 03:49 PM
If anyone needs any part for there Vintage Monster Beetle or Blackfoot, PM me, I have boxs of parts for them. :D

Yknot
05-22-2007, 05:19 PM
What do you have that can fix my slipping trany? I haven't tried the cut up rubber band suggestion yet.

Needler56
05-22-2007, 08:28 PM
What do you have that can fix my slipping trany? I haven't tried the cut up rubber band suggestion yet.

what's the cut up rubber band suggestion?

Yknot
06-06-2007, 11:20 AM
One of the guys suggested putting cut up pieces of rubber bands in the tranny. He said it sounded silly but it worked on old slipping Blackfoot's.

Tamiya84
07-25-2007, 11:48 AM
If anyone needs ANYYY PARTS for there blackfoot i have almost every part Brand new to build 10 trucks so let me know

spinpoint2003
08-08-2007, 09:30 AM
Has anyone converted theyre blackfoots to a 4x4

bearmarm
01-01-2008, 11:58 AM
I have fabricated stock parts from milled aluminum since the prices on Ebay are insane. I also added ball bearings at all of the pivot points in the suspension. The front body mount is spring loaded to reduce impact on the body. To stop the gearbox side plates from bending out, I put in braces. The drives are rere Frog parts. Also, the rere Frog has a metal gear in place of a plastic one in the original Blackfoot. Nobody seems to have noticed this. I hope the pictures come through. Opinions?

Needler56
01-01-2008, 01:32 PM
looks great! how are those braces for the gearbox plates holding up? i've recently assembled a 9 cell pack (6 side by side and 4 stacked on top), with some old NiCd cells to see how they would fit if i ever actually decided to build a new 9 cell pack. they actually fit perfect, but i think that if i went NiMH it might be a tight fit. anyone ever try this?

those braces are a great idea especially if you're running a lot of power through the truck. let us know how they're working out for you.

brainfreeze224
01-11-2008, 01:37 PM
hello.i am looking for 3 piece body mount for my blackfoot.im rebuilding mine.thanx

diforce
01-22-2008, 06:41 PM
hello, here is my King Blackfott with two different bodys :)
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6259/grhe4te4008py0.th.jpg (http://img412.imageshack.us/my.php?image=grhe4te4008py0.jpg)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7811/777014lt2.th.jpg (http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=777014lt2.jpg)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qEz9spQp5zg

Needler56
01-22-2008, 07:18 PM
what kind of electrics and motor you got there? looks pretty fast, great vid!

diforce
01-22-2008, 11:48 PM
what kind of electrics and motor you got there? looks pretty fast, great vid!
I use a Tamiya super stock TZ motor with a TEU-101BK speed controller and a sanyo 3000mAh.

Needler56
01-27-2008, 05:44 PM
did tamiya make two types of plastic for the tranny gears? i have a set that's gray and the other is yellow. is one harder than the other, or are the the same thing?

Jon Foster
02-03-2008, 12:30 AM
So where is a good place to get replacement parts for the Blackfoot? I'm in the process of making a list of what I'll need. I need a body for sure. Are there any other bodies that fit the Blackfoot? Like maybe a new Superduty?

Jon.

Needler56
02-03-2008, 01:21 AM
So where is a good place to get replacement parts for the Blackfoot? I'm in the process of making a list of what I'll need. I need a body for sure. Are there any other bodies that fit the Blackfoot? Like maybe a new Superduty?

Jon.

you should contact tamiya84 regarding parts

FESTER2004
02-12-2008, 01:43 AM
the new pro line bodies that fit the traxxas electric stampede should fit the blackfoot!

Jon Foster
02-12-2008, 11:17 PM
I finally found a old picture of my Blackfoot. Mind you this is a really old picture, taken over 20 years ago. You can also see my Hornet in the picture, it was my prize RC in it's day.

http://home.comcast.net/~kookala/RC-1.jpg

Jon.

KungFooGrip
03-29-2008, 09:25 PM
Hi everyone,

I have a Super Blackfoot that I'm trying to get working again. It has a MSC that doesn't work very well at all, and I want to upgrade to an ESC.

I'm not sure which one to get so it will be compatible with my controller. Its a Magnum Sport FP-T2PB Gun Controller. It uses one of the crystals that has the two prongs coming out of it (forgive my lack of proper terminology, its been a long time since I've used this truck)

The crystal says "Type 72-3 AM" on one side, and "Type 72-3 75.710" on the other.

Any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.

FESTER2004
04-01-2008, 02:06 AM
a new stock tamiya 101 esc will work great for you.

FESTER2004
04-03-2008, 02:43 AM
as of 4/2/08,heres my king blackfoot (left) and a my blackfoot extreme
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r7/fester4x4/IMG_0283.jpg

ngrover
05-23-2008, 03:10 AM
Hello all, just getting back into the scene. I dug out my old Blackfoot (original) and need some wheels and tires.

Question: I know that HPI makes 2.2 inch wheels with adapters.. question is, what about the front wheels? Do my existing front wheel bearings fit the HPI wheels? If not which bearings should I get so that they fit my stock Blackfoot front axles? Also, do the newer version Blackfoot wheels fit the original?

Thanks!