Traxxas 4-Tec forum

[jayskiia]

hey everyone, i am new to electric on road. i was given a traxxas 4tec. i have an esc and stock class motor in it already, i plan to buy bearings and wheels and tires for it soon. are there any other upgrades you know of for it? how do i tension the belts on it? there is no tensioner.

[dugrant153]

Hey there.

I used to own a 4-tec. Best upgrades you can get for it are:
a) an ESC
b) Stock motor... or a motor that doesn't heat up much
c) Ballbearings.

I used this setup and was able to match a TC3 RTR in a drag race.

As for other upgrades, there are a few that Traxxas offers. I didn't buy them, but I would recommend the sway bars (anti-roll bars) if they have the kit.

[jayskiia]

ok i solved my traction problem by adjusting my toe. these cars are awesome. they are so adjustable compared to trucks. does anyone race against a 4tec? how do they do honestly? i dont want to hear how bad you wax them every week with your $800 tc3. in an honest comparison could a good driver with a 4tec run with a tc3 or an xxxs?

[jt queen]

hey man i have a 4 tec i bought i thought to race but cannot get anybody to help with setup or hopups if i had the money i would go with another car but i don't so i will try to race parkinglots with what i have. any help with setups would be appreciated i have a 17t,19t,and 20t stinger motors have put bearings added a rooster esc and changed the shock oil inthe rear to 70 wt. any help will be returned used to race karts but to old now any all the kids i raced all seem to have a death wish. i will return all emails


jt queen :)

[dugrant153]

I had a 4-tec once. I really liked it, but it had a huge heat problem with the motor (and the plastic motor plate didn't help that problem at all).

Play around with the toe and camber settings. This really helps the driving consistency of the car. I personal like some camber (drifter setup) when I run my car. I run a lot on the streets, and it really helps there.

Like I said above, ballbearings are a MUST.

[Burnout]

Wow, amazing. There are more than 2 or 3 electric 4 tec owners on here?! What the hey, here is a pic of my 4 tec. My mods are full bearings and I just got the sway bars today. I went looking for the RPM rear tower and a graphite upper plate but my LHS did not carry it. Also if you guys look in the parts list in the owners manual seems like they do have a graphite double deck chassis set for $75 I think. Weird thing is they also have the graphite upper deck for $10 listed. And noone seems to buy it. People also say that there is no such thing as a different chassis for the e 4tecs. $10 is sounds pretty cheap for a upper graphite deck. Also the swaybar kit # is wrong on the traxxas site, its actually for the nitro. The one in the owners manual is the correct kit #. For those who don't know.

[Randy Rathbun]

Look at upgrading the rear carriers to aluminum ones. At the track I go to the 4-Tecs keep busting the rear carriers. They all break exactly the same, and it does not take much of a wack into the boards to break them.

[jt queen]

what part # or company are your rear carriers I donot see them in the traxxas catalog

[Mustang_child]

WOW :eek: That looks like a supra body is it?

[Fast4Tec]

Hey Guyz, thought I'd share my 4-Tec with ya. LoL. I love this car!! She's got.......

Associated IPC Super Sport ESC
Trinity Monsters Of Touring 15x2
Futuba Magnum Sport Radio
Foams ( Pink Compound )
Full Ball Bearing Set
Sway Bars
RPM Rear Shock Tower
Reactive Castor wedges

This puppy scooooooooots........ Got 2nd Place Last Weekend in the A-Main, lost by 2 laps to a TC3. Hopin to get him next week though, gonna try some different gear ratios.

If I get some updated pics I'll post em.....

4-Tecs Rule!

Laterz! :cool: :D :)

[Burnout]

Well I would like to see pics of your 4 tec. After 2 weeks I finally got my 4 tec running today. I just bought the XTM reversable sportsman ESC yesterday and got some Deans 4 pin plugs today. So far my car has full bearings, sway bars, Futaba S148 servo, Futaba FPR112 JE reciever, deans plugs for the motor and battery, Twister 15t dbl, and a XTM Sportsman ESC. My motor definitely needs a rebuild and my batteries are very old. So far the car is pretty fast. I am surprise considering how worn the motor and the batteries are for it to have that speed. Since I didn't have a real charger I had to use a NIKKO charger! I cut the wires and solder on the deans male plug. I was also running with no glue on the tires. With the proper charger, batteries, and rebuild on the motor, the car should have a huge improvement.

[Burnout]

For those who haven't saw it yet, here is another pic of my car. If I am not lazy I will take more pics of my set up.

[Burnout]

oops

[infinite_anthem]

hey are the 4-tec wheels like the street sport? does the rear tires have little pole inserted to move them?

i want to get the 4-tec wheels for my street sport

[Burnout]

This is what the 4 tec looks like on the bottom. For those that have not seen a 4 tec before I just wanna show you, since I'm the only owner in existance!

[Burnout]

more pics.

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more

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this is with yokomo super narrows on the front.

[Burnout]

more super narrows, damn if only super narrows are still here today.

[Burnout]

One more I think!

[Fast4Tec]

Your not the only one !! :D I gots one and I love it!! This car rules ! It can be raced competitively ( sp?? ) , I do it just about every Sunday..... I usually make the A-Main and keep up with the TC3's, Pro 3's, ect....... I placed 2nd 2 weeks ago! Newayz.... heres a pic or 2 to keep ya entertained!!

Laterz! :D :cool: :)

[Fast4Tec]

Another...... :cool: :cool: Showin off my new RPM shock tower ! :D

btw...... i took the pic at a crooked angle.... its not my car that's crooked LoL

[Fast4Tec]

One More....... Kinda dark but you get the idea LoL!

[chucksolo]

It amazes me how little respect this car gets. I have one too and it is a great car. Just put in a set of bearings, a racing stock or mod motor and an ESC and the thing flies. Mine is actually faster than my TC3 RTR with identical motors (Green Machine Pro 3) and gearing.

[Burnout]

Thats cool Fast4Tec, good job at the race! You did very well and by looking at the pics your car is like bonestock! And Chucksolo, I dunno why but many people say that the RTR TC3 can smoke a 4 Tec. I also hear things like the 4 Tec takes forever until it starts to pull away from a RTR TC3. Well I dunno, I do not own a TC3, heck I haven't seen one in real life yet!

Well now my car is out of commission. Damn stupid XTM ESC that I just bought BRAND NEW decided to give me problems. From the car stalling to over 10 seconds forward to reverse delay (or vice versa). But I sent it back to the distributor and they will exchange it for a new one...DAMN THEY BETTER!. Since my car isn't running I cleaned it up a bit.

[Burnout]

Oh yeah, I wanted that RPM rear tower. I went to my LHS but they didn't have it in stock.

[Burnout]

Now here is the aluminum motor plate I added. I think it came off from my old 10L or some other car. Found this piece in my r/c toolbox.

[vsnakebytev]

Hey I am getting my friend into the real r/c and he was wanting to get a 4 tec but would like to know the stock speed.

[Possumbot]

i think its like 21 mph or somewhere around there.

[jcnmt]

hey guys i just got a 4 tec!its pretty sweet!cant wait to race it:D

[jayskiia]

hey guys, thanks for everyone being into 4tecs. has anyone figured out a way to build a belt tensioner? my belt feels so loose sometimes and it is brand new. i dont have anywhere to race mine excpet once a year they have a little expo race at the fair, and i usually do quite well, but its against all kinds of cars(bolink, tyco, etc)

[FILBERTINA]

Me and my freind jumped my 4-tec 15 ft with out braking a part. These cars are extremly durable and they are at an affordable price. I just dont get why the hell traxxas gives the stampede and rustler esc's but gives the 4-tec a crappy ass msc???

[trxstr1961]

my room mate has a 4-tec too. she doent run it at all:(

i have a rs4 sport but want to get me a 4 tec also, so we can race each other (thats if she wants too)

[DJ BlendeR]

The belt tensioner is kinda wierd. What you do is you actually rotate the carriers that hold the diff gears, front and back. There are little notches and the further back/down you go, the tighter it gets. Its actually in the build manual too. I'd tell you what page, but I don't know where mine is at the moment.

How much did all of you pay for your BBs? My LHS quoted me at $30. That seems pretty steep, but maybe I am wrong? Oh and has anyone figured out a fix for all the heat buildup on the motor? Also, I stripped the screw that holds the upper front suspension arm/camber link. Its the screw that is mounted to the front carrier, the plastic inside, that is supposed to hold the metal piece inplace stripped, so as I try to loosen the screw, it just spins. Any fixes?

Here's my setup:

Either Epic stock motor, or 15T Q speedgems
Tekin Rebel ESC w/rvrse
TQ Radio
0 Degree Stub Axle Carriers
Schumacher slicks
Schumacher yellow inserts

[justlookin]

maybe I'm a little late for this forum or maybe it auto refreshes like other forums I've seen.

I've got a Futaba 2PEKA, TRAXXAS XL-1 ESC, and a MATRIX stock motor.

one hop-up i was able to find by browseing rccaraction mag was a set of light weight ball cups and servo saver from GENERAL SILICONE.

also got the sway bar kit (had mine anodized blue).

some nitro 4-tec parts are interchangeable with our little electric boogars. like i have POWERLINE front knuckles, rear hub carriers, upper arm holder, and upper arms; the POWERLINE parts are all anodized blue and you will have to use the included hinge pins instead of screws but it's will significantly imporve the looks of your 4-tecs.

I'll have pics of mine as soon as i got the new PROTOform Silverado body painted.

my split 5-star wheels were bought off e-bay for $25 for a set of 4 wheels and tires.

[trxstr1961]

my room mate have a 4-tec and its pretty much stock, all it has is a 19t motor in it. and a set of foams off a kyosho optima for wheels :-) now as for the show ver. she runs a vette body(black with chrome flames) and a set of daytons with hpi rubber :)

[justlookin]

i got a dumb question...most of you guys have white spur gears, mine is black...why is that...i got this car in a trade about a year ago and been finding out new stuff on it all the time.

I love my 4-tec now though. I went to my LHS and I win the B-mains alot and place 4th of 5th in the a-mains if I'm lucky. but I'm real consistant in the B-main, infact most of the guys that know me at the track call me beta.

I was offered a stock TC3 for my 4-tec and I honestly didn't want the TC3; my 4-tec has beat this guy many times before so he is always "spectating" my pit stall instead of his own. he reported me cheating a few times and the officials asked me to tear my car apart in front of him. I did and the officials laughed because my car is just a few look good parts that i opted for and i was still beating him in the b-mains. I gave him satisfaction one time only to piss him off in the end...I qualified crappie enough to be dead last in b-main (i was at the back of a 12 car b-main) mostly XXX's and TC3 were up front and he qualified 3rd. I went all the way through the field in about 4 laps and passd him. I won b-main and he was pissed cuz class main winners get $50 gift certificates at the shop and everytime i go to the shop to spend my certificate he's there talking trash. it's so funny cuz he's got a traxxas stinger motor novak super rooster and an M8 and my low budget 4-tec stomps his *****!

[DJ BlendeR]

Justlookin, don't MATRIX motors kick butt?! I love mine. I bought it like 2 weeks after getting my tec, when I knew nothing bout RC, and the guy at the LHS told me to get it. I haven't found a better stocker yet. I use it in my XXXT right now, cuz thats what I race, and even with my bad driving skills I can catch up to the other drivers. And the spur gear thing, I dunno the answer, but maybe yours is an older model and thats the one it came with. Or maybe its got a different number of teeth. That's what Losi does.

[trxstr1961]

ran my 4-tec today, man does it move!! looks pretty good with its 53 chevy body on it with gold rims !
powered by a 19t motor, futaba radio gear, novak esc

Body is painted metallic red /white/black:D

[justlookin]

well this weekend is the dawn for my 4-tec's new list of mods:) .

:eek: Novak Rooster disable-able reverse
:eek: Futaba 2PEKA fm radio system
:eek: Pro-Line Fury 26mm tires

I just thought is would be nice to keep each other informed on how our cars are going. After all, electric 4-tec owners are few and far between.

[DJ BlendeR]

Mine is looking very purty collecting dust above my TV. I have no tires to run it, I tore apart my good tires to see if my foams are reusable, and the wheels that are mounted now, only have the V-rage pieces of junk over them, no inserts and not glued down.

Honestly, does anyone like the v-rage tires? Where I have run my car, they offer virtually no grip.

[trxstr1961]

ive run hpi radials, 26mm with stock foams, those run great, have lots of grip on the street, wouldnt mind running those again, but dont have any.:(

[justlookin]

I'm hoping the fury tires will give me better traction than the ones that came with my wheels. plus i liked the looks of them.

[4teclectric]

it is so awesome to find people who love their 4tecs like i do
:)
i am on a mission to find out what parts from the nitro car
will fit my electric
if you all know of any let me know
i know some parts but my mission is to find all parts

A GOOD PLACE TO FIND 4TEC PARTS IS
MEGATECH.COM THEY ARE FOR THE
NITRO CAR BUT THEY ARE GOOD LOOKING
AND MANY OF THEM WILL FIT OUR CARS

[justlookin]

I must say this must be one of the most un-active thread on the touring car forum. I just thought you guys might want to know that you can go to Tower Hobbies (http://www.towerhobbies.com) list more aluminum parts and even offers pics so you can compare the parts to yours and see if they might interchange. Also Horizon Hobbies (http://www.horizonhobby.com) sells General Silicone stuff which works on all cars and the color choices for servo savers and other plastic parts really accent the black 4-tec's we're all accustom to.

C'mon guys liven up I'm sure there is something you want to share about your 4-tec's.

Like me for instance I'm designing my own uni-belt system.:eek:

:D look out Losi here I come, that precious XXXS will fall to my Uni-Tec:D

I'll take pics of the chassis design I'm working on...and to spunk your interests a bit more my uni-belt 4-tec will use all the factory chassis mounting holes( hopefully :rolleyes: )

[DJ BlendeR]

Couldn't you just mount the diff gear on the rear on the left side instead of the right and use a really long belt with pulley somewhere to keppt the gear up and away from the motor?

[justlookin]

DJBlendeR: that would defeat the whole purpose. I have the main chassis designed but the marks are too light for my scanner to pick up. so I'll have to put it through 3D Studio Max and post some renders as I develope the unibelt before i build it.

[Burnout]

Yes, this place is dead, now let it rest in peace!

Anyways, I still have my 4tec. Got bored so I slotted my front bulkhead nicely. Now you can see the front diff. I also got rid of the middle plastic that protects the belt. I will post pics whenever I find that freakin cable that hooks the digi cam to the comp!

Its also nice to know that there are other people that are still into their e 4tecs. I still haven't saw one hooked up 4tec yet, except this one. I dunno who it is but I found somewhere on the net.

[slodsm]

I have always had nitro cars, never electric. One 1/8 scale buggy and 2 losi xxx nt's but I just aquired a 4 TEC in trade for some real car performance parts I had left over from my last race car. I bought a Novak Rooster ESC and a Peak Performance 17T double. Do you guys think that will be pretty quick just to play on my street with? I am using a Magnum Jr and a Hitec 605BB steering servo as well. I may even try to race it if we ever start running more than off road at any of the 4 nearby LHS's

[justlookin]

:eek: that's one sweet 4-tec...but it's not custom, just has the carbon upgrade kit from traxxas.

:confused: does anyone know if i can get some blue threaded shocks?

[slodsm]

tower hobbies has them. Powerline makes them.

[FastTec]

Here's Mine..
1. Proline ProtoForm Acura RSX Body
2. Front & Rear Sway Bars
3. Trinity P2K Stock Motor 30/84 Gears
4. 30T Robinson Ultra Light Pinion Gear
5. Novak Super Rooster ESC
6. N4Tec Front And Rear Differentials
7. Deand & Powerpole Connectors
8. 2400 Pack
9. DuraTrax Ball Bearing Set
10. 0 Degree Rear Axle Carriers

[travis_118]

Hello all. I am fairly new to the RC world. This is my first car. So far i Love it. I'll post some pics when i take some..haha... just wanted to say hi:)

[Burnout]

Well, I can't believe I still got my 4 tec! And guess what, I still haven't really ran it yet. I only did it a few times with cheap batteries and a Nikko charger. Damn I still need to buy a charger. That car looks sweet with the RSX bod on it. If you guys have a good eye you can see what I did to the front bulkheads and the upper deck.

[Burnout]

more

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ahem.

[Burnout]

Looks like it fits at this angle, too bad it doesn't though.

[justlookin]

Project Uni-TEC update :

well fellas I got alot of the Research & Design done, ran some test with plastic duplicates (weighs more than the aluminum) and it ran .6 seconds or more faster than an XXX-S over a 15 lap test with the same motor, batt, gearing, radio, and E.S.C.

milled the aluminum upper and lower decks with 3 mm cabon fiber inlays (saved more weight than i anticipated) but the project is haulted till my LHS gets the clear gear cover for the XXX-S:D (I cheated and designed it so that my chassis can use this nifty debris deflector too!)

anywho here a shot of the new setup which uses the same belt as the Losi (so i hope:confused: ) as you can see the motor has been move up and forward a bit to sit right overtop the batterie in hopes to keep a good clean CG

[justlookin]

here ya go boys, a blueprint of the lower deck.
http://home.graffiti.net/kaptk2002/ld1.jpg

[justlookin]

well fellas it just keeps getting better. here are some 3d shots, and I hope to have the main chassis done by the weekend, then i can install the nitro diffs:D.
http://home.graffiti.net/kaptk2002/ld1rend.jpg
http://home.graffiti.net/kaptk2002/ld1brend.jpg

[FastTec]

You meantioned Nitro Diffs, which ball bearing or Planet Gears?
I have Planet Gear diffs front and rear on my tec

[justlookin]

honestly I didn't know there was a difference. I was just going to order some nitro diffs, CVD kit for Nitro, deanodize the diffs, polish the diffs, instal a bearing kit

[Peterbilt]

Hey, what size is the hex hub on the 4-Tec ? I think its 12 mm ?

Thanks:)

[FastTec]

I have Nitro diffs on my 4Tec if you wanna take a look. I'm in the middle of making the installation page.

http://www.geocities.com/electric4tec/assembly1.html

[streetweapon1]

Originally posted by Burnout
oops

u took my idea, thats not fair, oh well, at least my'n is the nitro, i just orderd a 100 $ light kit, and im going to mount them to my supra body, its going to be sweet, well, im glad to see more ppl, wit this car, i thought i might be the only one wit a nitro here.

thnx
street


ps, for the light kits, talk to RCLED'z

aim: RCLED'z

[kidprozac]

i posted this in the general electric forum, but was told id get a better response here:

got a favour to ask some very kind person out there
just wondering if anyone would be able to give me the dimensions of the shocks on the 4tec? im after:

diameter of the shock body
diameter of the screw on cap that holds in the o rings
thread size of the shock shaft, m3 i think?
length of the shock shafts, front and rear

and anything else that think might be important

hoping some help is forthcoming

nice one people!!

[DJ BlendeR]

Well, I have finally figured out what to do with my tec. I have been bored with this car basically since 5 months after I got it. On road just isn't for me. So, I am changing my tec into a mini monster truck, I am going to use the front and rear of my tec, and then mount 2.2 inch truck tires. Then I am going to build a tube frame chassis and a four link susp. system. I'm gonna start on this probably over christmas break, and once I find some good motors for it. I am just going to use some 360 sized motors, since I don't have an ESC capable of handling two 540 motors. I'll take pics, but since I don't have a digicam, probably won't see anything outta me till next year, if all goes well.

[RadicalRustler]

What are some good upgrades for the 4-tec after bearings and esc? I might be getting one for christmas and am going to tear the tq system off my rustler for indoor carpet racing/road racing when the snow disappears every once in a while.

[SegaBowMan]

Help please. I'm looking for an electric 4tec and they are sold out everywhere. I'm looking for the kit version. Does anyone know where to get one?

[RadicalRustler]

Check www.greathobbies.com and how much would that uni deck thing cost to make? My school has autoCAD 200 and a thing to carve stuff, so a comp design download would be cool. You did design it on the computer, didn't you?

[RadicalRustler]

You could also make it out of carbon fiber. And does it use the stock upper deck?

[4tecsid]

Originally posted by dugrant153
Hey there.

I used to own a 4-tec. Best upgrades you can get for it are:
a) an ESC
b) Stock motor... or a motor that doesn't heat up much
c) Ballbearings.



Newbie wanting to make some upgrades. What are ballbearings and where do they go? :rolleyes: My 4 tec is all stock. I like it but man do I need to learn to drive.

Let the Fun begin!

sid

[RadicalRustler]

I ordered my 4-tec and it is on b/o. since i am going bl, is it possible to put a rustler slipper on the 4-tec? Thanks
Does anyone have a tc3 + a 4-tec? How do they compare?

[Ovalracer04]

What companys make the best bodies to fit the 4 TEC with the least amount of modifications to the body, if any. Is it HPI, Proline, Protoform, ect?

thanks in advance

[RadicalRustler]

What shape is the stock body in? Stratus?

[ND4SPDR]

It's an Opel Astra, I beleive.

[ND4SPDR]

It's an Opel Astra, I beleive.

[RadicalRustler]

what are the handling characteristics/speed characteristics compared to a dodge stratus?

[FastTec]

Have any of you ran a 7-cell pack?, I used one on the Stinger w/my Super Rooster, I was quite impressed with that little motor. I also have a Trinity Sapphire 17t with a P-94 Brush Conversion it'll give a 15 a run for it's money, and a Speed Gems Pro Jet 11, this motor it extremely fast I have 84/17 gears with the 7 cell pack. I suggest to get rid of those crappy diffs and go for either n4tec bb diffs or the gear diffs. Because hot motors will tear apart those stock ones. Has anyone else replaced their's?.

[RadicalRustler]

how fast does the 4-tec go with bbs and everything else stock? Thanks.
P.S i will soon be joining your ranks (small as they might be)

[Clod_Killer]

Probably 23-24mph. Its 21mph stock. It depends on batterys and stuff also though.

Anyone else actually race theirs on a weekly basis? Mine is pretty much a "Pro" 4-Tec, graphite chassis set, and lots of other assorted goodies. I race carpet with it. Stock motor, foam tires. I can hang with the best of them. Lack of hop ups for it is a bummer though, and the poor design for the rear arm mounts, I have had to replace that $9 rear bulkhead set twice this month already because I ripped the arm mount right out of it, and its all molded 1 piece. :rolleyes: I will probably sell it soon and get something that was designed more for a race vehicle.

[RadicalRustler]

Did you get the rpm rear shock tower? That might help. And i might be racing.

[BIGDADDYV]

I am new to the whole sedan scene.. I have always wanted a 4-tec (cause I am a traxxas lover) and recently traded for one.. I just got done putting it together last night and still need electroncs for it... I have BB's in it and basically it is just a roller... I have a lot of things I would like to do to it and would like some input on it from the experinced guys about the old 4-tec....

I was thinking about the rear graphite brace
sway bars (front and rear)
better shocks (I have rebuilt the stock ones but i am not satisfied with them)
some kick butt 5 spoke rims from HPI and tires... I am stumped on the whole insert thing... I want to make this a scale 1/4 mile drag race car but am unsure of what type of inserts i will need....
The shell I chose is a mustang Saleen body..
I basically need input on set up and getting this thing to run as fast as I possibly can.....
I have several motors I am thinking about putting in but am unsure of the best one.....
P2k2 PRO, Ruby 15t, Photon, D4-10t trip
I am also thinking about changing the gearing but once again you guessed it , I am unsure of which ones I can change.... Basically any input on this would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks Big Daddy V

Also has anyone noticed that everyone and their brother runs a TC3????? I dont know what all the hype is about.. I think i will stick with traxxas.. My Pede has never let me down.....

[FastTec]

Here's my 4Tec.
http://www.geocities.com/electric4tec/tec1.html

Any Questions or comments

Thank You.

[RadicalRustler]

Yeah, they all like em b/c of the 'benefits of shaft' but i find a belt is nicer on the esc, motor, car, etc.

FastTec, your on ultimatetraxxas too!

[ND4SPDR]

Woah, we got ourselves a UTRX reunion here! :D

[BIGDADDYV]

My 4-tecis just a roller right now and i have no electronics in it what so ever... I have noticed that the wheels do not want to turn at all.. the are very hard t move... Does anone have any ideas about getting it to turn .. I am new to sedans and could really use a lil-help.. Thanks BDV

[RadicalRustler]

Is the motor in there? cause the magnets hold the armatures in place. And look for a tight spot. Isthe belt really tight? take off the belt, see if it is still the problem

[BIGDADDYV]

I am sorry about my description of the problem ... I meant that the front wheels wont turn as in turn a corner... Sorry for the miscommunication... I still neeed help with it if ya have a clue as to what could be my problem.. Thanks BDV

[Burnout]

One thing that is cool about the 4tec...no aftermarket support! That equals to more $$$ in your pocket. How about just parts support in general...very slim to none! And a few months now Traxxas has advertised all their kits except the 4tec in various magazines. And where is that damn graphite chassis? *sighs at Traxxas* But one good thing is you have to be much more creative if you want to hop up or do anything to this car. IMO I think they should discontinue this car because there just isn't anything for it anymore. The few hop ups they have for it are ridiculously over-priced and just not cool! Where is the aftermarket chassis or shock towers?

Oh well, here is my old tec.

[FastTec]

Does dirt get in your differential?

[BIGDADDYV]

Problem solved with the steering... now to start installing the electronics... I have NOOOOOOO idea as to hw this streerng servo is put in .. Any suggestios??? LMK, BDV

[nitroblood48]

any one whant to buy a electric 4 tec?????
I whent whith nitro and i have no use for electric cars anymore,I find it constently in my way.
comes whith,
opptional parts that are included and connected
.10 turn motor
.ESC
Parts needed
.8 AA bateries for radio
.charger
.7.2 volt batery
Parts not included
.bumper
.body

Nothen wrong

[BIGDADDYV]

How much ya want for it.. Hit me at vince-christina@webtv.net

[shadmaster4]

What nitro parts are interchangeable with the electic 4-tec?

[OBLIVION]

i bought myself a nitro 4tec at xmas time, after having a street sport for a few months..

i have already been able to get all of the carbon fibre upgrades including the upper chassis..

nitro 4 tec spares are reasonably easy to get here in Australia..

i race my 4tec with stock shockers and diffs.. and have done pretty well with it so far..
i got a 2nd in my first race ever, but then took a hard hit in the back end which broke my axle carrier..
next race meeting i managed a first and a few places...

engine was being Ported when this photo was taken
http://users.esc.net.au/~oblivion/Pics/******/noengine-above2.JPG
http://users.esc.net.au/~oblivion/Pics/******/GTP1.JPG

[hyper-7 44]

I have a 4TEC. I bought it 5 yrs ago and it is stock :rolleyes: except for a LRP Runner esc and radio.

[hyper-7 44]

Today I learned a lesson. Always electrical tape where you solder. I soldered the wires going from my esc to receiver and left them without electrical tape. I also soldered the wire from my esc to my motor and left those without electrical tape. Those 2 places without electrical tape touched and gave the receiver too much juice and It caught on fire :eek:. It burned a hole in my chassis and my esc is fried too :(. Anyone that didnt electrical tape a place where they soldered or something should electrical tape it right away. Boy dont I feel stupid!

[OBLIVION]

i have used fuel tubing before :)

i joined two wires together, and slid a length of fuel tubing over the join to insulate it, then i poured glue down into teh fuel tubing so it wouldnt slide off the join..

may be a bit of a dodgy way, but when yer at the track it can be a lifesaver

[FastTec]

I just installed my Novak Super Sport in my 4Tec. I't amazing.

[Grifter]

Hey guys.

Do you think the 4-Tec would be good for Drifting?

As stated before the 4-Tec isnt very popular and has very little aftermarket support, which isnt really needed for Drifting.

So how easy is it to get this thing sideways?

Also, do any of you remember someone awhile ago from the Traxxas Forum that was making a Carbon Fiber or Graphite 4-Tec Chassis? I dont know his name but I never saw it, and I havent been on the Traxxas Forums for almost 2 years.

[EvaderBX]

Hey guys...i am a previous owner of an evader bx ( hints the name) but now im into street. I was wondering if the 4-tec is a good car. If you can post some pics and give me some more info it would be great. Thanks yall
d dizzel:D

[EvaderBX]

quick ?......how fast can1 of these go?

[turbo s15]

i want one too but not sure if thr car is all that good

60mph but i heard it hates rubber tires and doesn't handle at all good so i might go with the rtr tc3 and buy a 2-speed with it.

[EvaderBX]

turbo the only one that goes 60 is the nitro 4-tec. I am talking about the electric.
d dizzel

[Armor_Dan]

I own a 4tec, I have quite a few of the upgrades done, with a good speed control and a track stock motor (paradox motor) it gets up and goes, prolly just as fast as the dominant TC3 and XXX-T. Only problem is that it is kinda sloppy in the corners. This is cured by a set of Traxxas aluminum shocks and correct rate HPI springs which are a perfect fit. At the time being I'm using orange in the front and the stock black springs in the rear. Works pretty well.

[EvaderBX]

armor dan, thank you for your input. I am very thankful for it. I am not sure yet which car i would like yet. It is bete=ween the tc3 and the 4 tec. I dont know which tho:confused: .thanks:cool:

[Grifter]

So noone knows if the 4-Tec could be a good Drifter?

[slash]

Hey every1 im new to rc cars and was thinking about gettin a traxxas 4tec......wat do u fink??? culd i turn it into a weekly racer and how fast can i get it up 2?? plz reply thanx

[FastTec]

Yes, the 4Tec can be setup for drifting. Almost any tourer can if you set it up the right way.

[slash]

y dus evry1 say dat the 4tec isnt as gd as the TC3.....culd i take it to ma local track n show a tC3 up if i modified a 4Tec??? plz reply thanx:confused:

[Grifter]

Originally posted by FastTec
Yes, the 4Tec can be setup for drifting. Almost any tourer can if you set it up the right way.

I know pretty much any Touring Car can be set up for Drifting, but some, like the TC3, just arent as good as others.

Thanks for the response.

[FastTec]

I'm undergoing a overhaul with the 4Tec. But I'de like to get another TC and set it up for drifting. I think I am going to get a RS4. They seem to work as a good drifter.

[ericstam07]

hey i got some hop ups for the electric 4-tec i have both new in packages a ball bearing kit and a front and rear sway bar kit, you can have both of them for $35.00 email me is intrested ericstambaugh07@hotmail.com aim is punk6sk8er msn is ericstambaugh07

[slash]

Hey every1 any1 still race their 4tecz im shuld b gettin 1 soon n i was thinkin wat wuld b da best upgrades for it... i want speed as well as racing spec!! plz reply
thanx

[associatedguy08]

There aren't many upgrades for electric 4tecs anymore but you may be able to get ball bearings and stuff like that. First things you should get are ball bearings if you can find them and an elecrtic speed control (esc) that handles low modified motors. One great entry-level esc is Mtronics Tempo it is $29.99 at hobbypeople.net and it handles down to 12 turn motors running from 4 - 10 cell battery packs. Go here for it:
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/159130.asp

As for motors, if you go with the Mtronics Tempo then get a 12 turn or higher motor. When I choose a motor, I see get a double and a triple wind motor and the double is for smaller tracks while the triple is for bigger tracks. The double has better acceleration than the triple but has less top speed as the triple. Triple wind motors have slower acceleration but a higher top end.

Last but not least the stock tires have barely any traction and will cause you to spin out at top speed with the included motor so I would get some grippy tires for racing and the stock tires for bashing.

Hope this helps.

[associatedguy08]

Also you will need to buy a pinion gear with the right amount of teeth on it for the new motor.

[ericstam07]

hey i got 4-tec hop ups
hey i got some hop ups for the electric 4-tec i have both new in packages a ball bearing kit and a front and rear sway bar kit, you can have both of them for $35.00 email me is intrested ericstambaugh07@hotmail.com aim is punk6sk8er msn is ericstambaugh07

[FastTec]

I don't race my 4Tec. I'm a basher.

[FastTec]

There's not much discussion in this post.

[smiller]

I'll talk with you. I run a 4Tec, and it's funny I read past post's about if you can drift it, I am a little confused by what they mean by that, because mines was driffting right out the box.

My son has a HPI sprint and it's the same, we do not race them just bash around the local school parking lot.

But when we want to put a show on for on lookers we can sure drift these cars around.

SM

[FastTec]

Drifting is fun. But it's really hard on the motor,ESC and tires. I shredded a couple of sets of Pro-Line tires. So, I just got slicks They're almost gone too.

I've had my 4Tec for about 2 years.

[Quizzy_Maxx]

i've found that the sway bars for the nitro 4-tec will fit the elec. 4-tec. i would think that some of the other hop ups from the nitro version would also fit the elec. one.

[tec_41]

I just got my 4 tec last week, and for some reason i cant get the steering straight. Ive tried everything, but after i make a right turn, it curves left and after i make a left turn it curves right....any suggestions?

[tec_41]

sheesh, seems like everyone has given up here...

[SkidRow]

Hey Justlookin',could you possibly repost the photos/drawings of your unibelt 4-Tec?The available links haven't worked for me.Thanks!

[tec_41]

Who are u talking to skidrow?

[T4tecracer]

Burn-

where do you drive urs?

[T4tecracer]

If i put in a tRINity P2k motor, will it go faster than the stock motor? (Stinger)

[tec_41]

I think it would, but maybe just a little bit.

[tec_41]

I drive mine in parking lots, and in the road by my house

[Re-Mix]

Anyone here running a custom chassis? I was just wondering since i ran a custom chassis on my old on that i just sold

[T4tecracer]

nope, im bone stock

[tec_41]

i wish ppl still came on this forum, if any one still reads it, post a thread!

[xplosion]

What bodies will fit to 4-tec perfectly. Is Hpi 190mm or 200mm good to 4-tec?

[tec_41]

190mm fit best

[T4tecracer]

What Stock Motor would anyone recommend?

[Flat]

P2K2 for tight and technical tracks.

Hey! Is there a way to tighten the belts on this car? Looks like there is potential for a belt tensioner for the froint belt. Does anybody have a link to where I can get an aftermarket tensioner? Seems like every month the belts get looser and looser. Not skipping yet, but soon it will.

Flat.

[tec_41]

There is a way to tighten the rear one, not the front. There is a small notch on the rear differential. If you pop it out and rotate the notch twords the back of the car, the belt becomes tighter. Its kinda hard to explain, but easy to figure out.

[guver]

Hey I just got one of these and like it so far . It is gear up to go faster and I plan to put it a 14 tun motor soon.

What toe/camber/caster specs are you using.??

[tec_41]

Everything on mine so far is stock,cept for some parts. 19t chameleon, full ball bearings, intellispeed 16t esc, and golden no solder connectors.

[guver]

I just put a 8 cell battery and kept a 20 turn motor instead of going to a 14 turn. Speed came up with stock gearing quite a bit, the handling seems just as good as b-4. Until a drive shaft fell off.the bolt came out of the outdrive/yoke???

Mine still has the msc and bushings still. How many bushings are there to replace?

[tec_41]

A full set of bearings has 16 in it for the tec. Duratrax makes a set here- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD051&P=7 First i would get an esc however then the bearings, then a nice mod motor.

[mgs9]

I have a 4-tech its all stock except i changed the gear ratio, i got a bigger pinnion and a smaller spur. i have the scorpion 20t and i was wondering what the 20 turn stands for and is a lower turn better?

[guver]

A lower turn is "faster" .... faster is always better right? I did that to mine too put on a bigger pinion. The 20 turns means it is how many wraps of wire is around each segment of the armature.

[tec_41]

I have a 4-tech its all stock except i changed the gear ratio, i got a bigger pinnion and a smaller spur. i have the scorpion 20t and i was wondering what the 20 turn stands for and is a lower turn better?

Lower is deffinatley better :D If i were you, id get a nice 19t motor and have some fun. The stock stinger isnt very good...

[BPC]

Just baught a used 4-Tec for $90.00 with everything RTR... it should be in by friday hopefully...if so im runing down to my LHS and getting my new Spur and pinion gear, sway bar, and bearing set....

after working on my E-maxx rock crawler for the past four months i needed a little bit of speed back in my life, i think the 4-Tec is a great platform.. I should have this thing looking trick in a matter of months....

One question I do have I plan on putting a 9T double motor in it but I need help on choosing a good inexpensive ESC...if anyone can help :D

if anyone cares heres a pic of my crawler
http://community.webshots.com/s/image4/6/50/4/157565004OqtwDx_ph.jpg

[guver]

Hey that sounds like a great deal. I just got mine back together with a esc and bearings. Great runnin' tonite with it. I think the budget esc would be a duratrax 8 turn pro or 8turn rev.

hint hint I have both for in the buy/sell forum $59.00 each.

9 turn motor will be wild man.....

[sx555]

.... I just dont get why the hell traxxas gives the stampede and rustler esc's but gives the 4-tec a crappy ass msc???

i have a rustler and it came with a msc not a esc!

[tec_41]

lol, msc's are waaaay out dated and i think its time that they disappear from the face of the earth.

[guver]

I used the msc in mt 4-tec and was my first msc . I was quite impressed with 8 cells and stock 20 turn motor. I'm going to sell it with all stock stuff. Actually quite impressed with the "on-road" expereince. I never thought I could get into it. I just need a good place to drive as my park has a ban on rc

[tec_41]

A ban on rc's? Never heard that one before... The only thing i like using msc's for is putting 2 batts in with the stinger....that way i wont damage my esc

[tec_41]

ttt.

[microrcdude]

A ban on rc's? Never heard that one before... The only thing i like using msc's for is putting 2 batts in Good idea! Ill put that in the BRB(bandit race buggy)

[tec_41]

lol, can guarentee you it will last very long, but what do you have to lose?

[tec_41]

"IS THERE ANYBODY OUT THERE, ANY BODY THERE...DOES ANYBODY WANT ME, ANY BODY CARE???" I know bill would like this one :D But seriously, has anyone taken a look at the tec forum latley?

[BJoeHandley]

Me, here's an older pic of mine :D

[tec_41]

Very cool, where did u get the graphite chassis from? Tower keeps changing the arrival date...now its mid october( yea sure :rolleyes: )

[BJoeHandley]

Bought it in '99 when I bought the car, this pic is from about April '00, if I remeber right. I've since gone to a FM radio, will be installing a "re-man" Novac TC2 I bought at last years Hobby Show, installed a Traxxas 2055 (T-Maxx steering) servo, and will be getting new Boca's for both this and my N4T (I'll need 26 5x11x4 bearing between the two!!!), Losi sedan springs (direct fit for both 'Tecs), aluminum wheel hexs, cap head screws, N4T axles, Zero degree rear hubs, and modified the battery holders to accept a 7-cell stick pack.

[tec_41]

Thats awesome...do you race that beauty or just bash? I also noticed your a member of the traxxas forum. I was for about a week but razer pissed me off beyond beliefe so I banned myself. I hate that forum...:p

[BJoeHandley]

I did some, but never get much chance to practice and play with setups, so I mainly just bash behind work, lots of area to get my 'Tec's sliding around. One of my last outings with it, I was running a 1800mAh 7-cell and 13t combo in it. It was having a little bit of radio trouble and shot under a parked semi!!! The trucks driver and I found it wedged tightly between the first set of duals on the drivers side of his trailer. It was so badly stuck that the driver had to BACK HIS TRUCK of of the car!!! All that was damaged was the upper "ball joint", that piece was tweaked where the camber rod goes in.
What was your name on the Traxxas forum? I also go on moparchat.com, scaleautomagazine.com, and naxja.org besides these two.

[tec_41]

Ha ha, thats awesome. I always wanted to drive under a moving semi, but would never try it lol. I was tec_41 on traxxas btw...man what pricks on that forum. I said something to razer that proved him wrong, then he DELETED MY EFFING POST to make himself sound better. I didnt say anything wrong in my post either

[BJoeHandley]

Zip Tie used to be on that board but I don't know what happened to him, Maybe I should see if they need a new marshal on there?

[darenl]

1. how fast can a 4 tec elec go after modified with motors gears esc
bearings as some of them in this forum top speed.

2. would you by the super brain 959 peak charger or the pirhana duratrax peak charger.

3. do i have to break in motor 20t stinger it comes with or just run it.

[tec_41]

1. A stock tec goes 22-24, a modified one all depends on the type of motor you put in it. I have a chameleon 2 19 turn and bearings and it will push about 30.

2.Personally, I would go with the Super Brain. A few people say they have overheating problems with it, but for the price it is one of the best quality chargers.

3.No break in is necissary, only on some aftermarket motors.

Do you have a tec yet darenl? Let us know what your up to!

[darenl]

1. A stock tec goes 22-24, a modified one all depends on the type of motor you put in it. I have a chameleon 2 19 turn and bearings and it will push about 30.

2.Personally, I would go with the Super Brain. A few people say they have overheating problems with it, but for the price it is one of the best quality chargers.

3.No break in is necissary, only on some aftermarket motors.

Do you have a tec yet darenl? Let us know what your up to!

it is coming in this week this forum is great thx
what about the pirhana intellipeak hear anything
what's the first upgrade i should do to it
thx!

[guver]

1. how fast can a 4 tec elec go after modified with motors gears esc
bearings as some of them in this forum top speed.

2. would you by the super brain 959 peak charger or the pirhana duratrax peak charger.

3. do i have to break in motor 20t stinger it comes with or just run it.

1 don't know, limitless possibilities. Probly not too hard to double the stock speed though.

2 get the digital piranha , it's better than the 959, more versatile.

3 run it easy the first run or so and then go for it.

[tec_41]

Guver, didn't know you were still lurking around here! (maybe you post where i dont look???) I guess your right about the piranah though, more options.

[BJoeHandley]

I went with the 959 a couple of years ago, the only time I've seen overheating problems is when a couple of kids I knew had bought el-cheapo NiMH batteries online and seemed to be the cause to me, I've used mine on Dynamite, Peak, Techincal Products, and Losi batteries from 1100mAh all the way up to 3300mAh, with out many issues other that when used on the Peak brand batteries, those seem to false peak where the Dynamite's, Technical Products, and Losi's havent been a problem.
I have noticed a problem when running a low turn motor (12t-13t range) on both 6 and 7 cell packs with the rear belt. Mine tends to stretch out some, I used the transfer (side) belt off a HPI belt drive TC.

[Duff]

Me, here's an older pic of mine :D

where did you get all the carbon parts from?

[tec_41]

Oh my gosh some one posted here! He most likely got those parts from Tower Hobbies or something. BTW, they are graphite, not carbon fiber. Heres a link to the STILL out of stock parts- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVPROFIL=++&FVSEARCH=graphite+4-tec&FVPROFIL=++

[Duff]

nice one thanks for the link onley prob is i live in england so those parts will be very hard for me to get hold of :confused:

[Duff]

Me, here's an older pic of mine :D

oh yea also what ESC, motor and batts are you useing it that?

[tec_41]

He is running a Novak Fusion esc- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBJ70&P=ML Can't tell what motor that is though.

I think Tower Hobbies ships world wide for a few extra shipping bucks.

[Duff]

ok cool urmm just wordering what is the motor limit on the 4 tecs standerd ESC :confused:

[guver]

the xl-1 is 17 turns. the stock is a msc, not sure of limit.

[tec_41]

the msc's limit is 17 turns. Don't get the XL-1 though, its not that great.

[BJoeHandley]

Hey Duff, sorry it took so long to get posted, but I was running a Novak Fusion ESC (forward with brake, 12t-6cell/13t-7cell limits) and just what ever batteries I had. I normally use Trinity Speed Gems for motors (hard to beat the price on those)

[Duff]

nice thanks :p for the imfo

[Duff]

why is it that i cant tigten these two marked scwews (to the stearing linkige) rite up beacuse if i do that the stearing wont move its rock solid but if the a bit lose its fine?????????????????? :confused:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0071marked.jpg

[BJoeHandley]

It binds up everything by putting extra pressure on the bellcranks and is made worse by the bushings used on the bellcranks from teh factory (won't rotate smoothly when tightened up too much)

[Duff]

so is there any way i can stop it like putting ball berings in insted whith some small washers at top and botoom of each berring.

is there an aly stering linkige set out for the 4 tec any where???

also will these shocks fit the 4 tec

http://www.hpieurope.com/graphics/parts/a111.jpg

[BJoeHandley]

Don't know about the HPI Shocks, but I've got BigBores on both of my 4-Tec's. Just using bearings should help a bunch on the steering.

[Duff]

k cool im going to try and find some berings that will fit the linkige then.

but for now i got some pics of my 4 tec :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0061.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0057.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0059.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0070.jpg

[microrcdude]

Too stock, what it needs is a killer body to go with the killer rims.

[BJoeHandley]

Looks good Duff, just needs an ESC now!

[Duff]

yea im gonna get a ESC this week and a new shell if i have enougth mony lefed over

[Duff]

when i get a new shell i mite do another civic one like the one on my THUNDER TS-4n which is the car on the lefed in my pic the stadium truck is my XTM NITRO X-Cellerator.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0072.jpg

[tec_41]

What esc do you plan on getting? You may want to upgrade the motor after get used to it stock.

[Duff]

im getting this ESC link...........http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=12209

[Duff]

got rid of the rubbish old MSC and got my self a nice nosram tomahawk reverse for it ;) :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0009.jpg

[BJoeHandley]

Nice, looks like you can put a mild mod motor in it too.

[Duff]

the lowist i can go is 16 turns whith that esc sooooooo im going to be geting a nosram modifiged 17t double for it next month :D :D :D

[FreeRideJunkie]

I'm finally getting into R/C. My buddy has a TL-01 and some old associated Stadium truck and I wanted something cheap to get into the sport with. Well I managed to find a 4-tec online for about $100 RTR. It comes with 4 batteries, charger, radio, ESC upgrade and I'm not quite sure whatever else. It doesn't have a body (big deal I'm going to paint my own anyway) and it is currently set up with drift tires (which is the reason I wanted an on-road to begin with).

Anyway, just figured that I'd say hey since I'll probably end up on here a lot in the coming weeks.

[FreeRideJunkie]

Also,

Anyone know where I can get a Supra body??? After all, my car will be primarily a drifter.

-And don't knock the drifting. I thought it was stupid as hell untill I started drifting my buddy's TL-01. It a helluvalotta (it's a word know) fun.-

[guver]

I've been drifting on snow (with my truck)

Glad that your here and sounds like you got a good deal. I regret selling my 4-tec and may just get a brand new one.....

[FreeRideJunkie]

Yeah... the brand new ones are pretty cheap. The reason I didn't go that route was the fact that I didn't want to have to buy a charger and batteries after the initial purchase of the car. For now this should be fine. I have kind of been bitten by the nitro bug though... I'm looking to get an Ofna Hyper 7 PCR over the summer sometime. :rolleyes:

[Duff]

Also,

Anyone know where I can get a Supra body??? After all, my car will be primarily a drifter.

-And don't knock the drifting. I thought it was stupid as hell untill I started drifting my buddy's TL-01. It a helluvalotta (it's a word know) fun.-

HPI make a supra body :)

[FreeRideJunkie]

HPI make a supra body :)


Did they or Do they? They were the first place that I looked and I couldn't find one.

[Duff]

yep they still make one well they released a new one iv got a link here but its an english site but im shor they will sell it somewher in the us.

keep in mind the one in my link is a 200mm shell but they do do a 190mm iv seen it somewhere.

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=17366

[FreeRideJunkie]

So I finally got my 4-tec. Everything seems to be pretty much in order besides the fact that the front suspension was messed up to the point of the entire front half of the car riding on the ground. Plus... I'm missing the one belt tensioner that goes on top of the large belt; and the ESC has a delay to reverse. Not exactly what I was hoping for but it's still an ESC and not a MSC. I'm doing a tune up on it today after school and will get the thing drifting. This weekend I plan on getting a body painted and look into a new ESC for the future. I'll try to get pics of it up some time too.

[microrcdude]

You actually want a delay in the ESC. without it, when you it the brakes you will go into a full on spin and it will take life out of your tires.

[FreeRideJunkie]

I want a speed sensitive ESC. I understand that at speed you need a delay, but this one gives you a delay no matter what. You can be stopped and just want to back up and you still get a delay. The speed sensetive one brakes untill it knows the car is going slow enough, then it puts it in reverse. I either want one of those or one that you need to double tap to get it to go in reverse. It drifts so nice though.

[microrcdude]

speed sensitive? No such thing.

[FreeRideJunkie]

speed sensitive? No such thing.


You sure about that? This is from the Novak site:

"Smart Braking: A feature in all currently manufactured Novak Reversible Electronic Speed Controls which is designed to help reduce wear and tear on the model's drive train and also reduce the amount of heat build up in the ESC. When reverse throttle is applied (while the model is moving forward), the Smart Braking Circuitry will apply brakes until the vehicle is moving at a slow enough speed where damage and excessive heat are not likely to occur. When the model slows to a safe speed, the Smart Braking Circuitry will then allow reverse to engage. Smart Braking only occurs when the ESC's reverse is enabled (see definition on Reverse Disable), the vehicle is moving, and reverse throttle is applied."

They call it smart braking but what it does is wait until the car is going at a certain speed (in RPM's) before shifting into reverse. If your stopped, no delay, instant reverse.

[microrcdude]

Stay away from novak, their ESC's have caused me many problems.

[FreeRideJunkie]

Stay away from novak, their ESC's have caused me many problems.

Almost everyone that I run R/C with runs Novak. I actually bought a super rooster tonight with a 9 turn motor from one of my friends who now runs nitro for $60. For that money it would be almost impossible to do better.

Currently it screams on drift tires and I'm going to get a set of wheels and tires this monday. I'd say it was a productive night. And the ESC is far better than the POS I took off.

[tec_41]

Super Rooster is a good esc. Man, for $60 you got a $117 esc and a 9t motor, now that's a good deal. What kind of motor is it?

[FreeRideJunkie]

Super Rooster is a good esc. Man, for $60 you got a $117 esc and a 9t motor, now that's a good deal. What kind of motor is it?

Some high end associated team racing gig. Red and black is all that I rember. I think it sells for about $90 new or so. It needs to be hit up on the lathe real bad. This isn't going to be my motor. I'll probably hit the LHS in about 2 weeks for a 12-turn or so and some wheels/tires. I'm planning on going tomorow for a body and some dean's connectors for the battery so they don't heat up. I don't have enought money to buy all of that right now.

Plus I'm paying for JL audio subs for my car and a carbon fiber hood I'm ordering from California. :rolleyes:

[Duff]

i got bord of my shinny wheels so i chenged them for the some wite ones i think it looks good.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0022.jpg

[FreeRideJunkie]

I've got my M3 body painted and mounted so I should be able to get a pic up of that soon. I also now have the car on full Dean's connectors, the Super Rooster ESC, and am getting RPM Wheels, HPI tires, and hopefully one of these bad boys somewhere between 10 and 12 turns.

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[Duff]

cool sounds like it will be very quick then 10turn :D

next things on my list are a new shell and a nosram modifiged 17turn double motor. :D :D :D

[Duff]

i also made some holes in the curent shell for some air to get in and to stop my loverly new ESC from over heating.

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[himark]

How long can you make this car run? Whats the best battery/motor/esc setup for maximum run times? Also can you put in a heat sink for the motor so that it doesnt overheat? The stock body is 175mm correct, in that case what size body should be used if I wanted to use say an HPI body? Will the 26mm wheels fit the car with that body so that it looks normal aswell? Oh and if I wanted the traxxas parts such as the graphite chassis and whatnot I can get them from traxxas instead of from tower hobbies because I noticed they dont have them in stock. Would it be possible to have someone custom make the shock towers etc..with aluminum? Sorry for all the questions I am just curious.

[tec_41]

How long can you make this car run?- Stock motors and GP 3300 Batteries will provide 15 minutes of runtime usually.

Whats the best battery/motor/esc setup for maximum run times?- GP 3300 Packs, and a stock (27 turn) or 19 turn spec motor.

Also can you put in a heat sink for the motor so that it doesnt overheat?- Yeah, you can but its not necissary.

The stock body is 175mm correct, in that case what size body should be used if I wanted to use say an HPI body?- Incorrect. The stock body is 190mm. Any 190mm body will fit. Even some 200mm ones fit nicely.

Will the 26mm wheels fit the car with that body so that it looks normal aswell?- Yes

Oh and if I wanted the traxxas parts such as the graphite chassis and whatnot I can get them from traxxas instead of from tower hobbies because I noticed they dont have them in stock.- No, if Tower doesn't have it, Traxxas won't usually have it. The graphite parts have been on backorder for over a year, and Traxxas won't give us an answer why. (I'm sick of it)

Would it be possible to have someone custom make the shock towers etc..with aluminum?- Yes sir, any cnc mill can make stuff like that for you.

Sorry for all the questions I am just curious.- Dont worry about it ;)

[novakman5800]

i just joined this forum. this is my first post. the 4-tec was my first car. it is a very reliable car. it can take one hell of a beating. i have a novak bruchless SS5800 in it. geared with a 30 tooth pinion and a 72 spur. the car gets up and goes. ill get in some photos when i get the chance.

[guver]

Oh that must really fly. I regret selling mine almost a year ago, but I have a new one on it's way. I plan to put bearings and 8 cells in it. Maybe a motor and esc too later.

[novakman5800]

yeah. it gets up there in speed. had a problem with it flipping for a while, then i bought the sway bar kit and it helped out. now it only flips when it is hit by another car or runs into the grass.

[guver]

Finally got my 4-tec. Pretty nice. Now I have added 2 cells and the stock xl-1 and 20 turn motor and will see how it hold up.

[Duff]

got my new 17 turn double motor all fitted in my 4tec and it flys, wheel spins a bit from a standing stop :D :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v205/RcNuts/DSCF0053.jpg

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[guver]

Yours should be as fast as mine , and lighter too. I ran mine at the duck pond park and weelll I have manure al over it now.

[Duff]

yer mine is quicker than i thoght it would be.

[guver]

What kind of batts you use?

[Duff]

What kind of batts you use?

not very good ones at the moment, i have 1700mah nicd and a 1400mah nicd pretty crud eh.

[JoshsTL01]

if i can get a brand new electric 4-tec for $96, should i do it?

[T-maxx 4eva]

YES! I would do it in a heartbeat. If its brand friggin new i would buy it and then sell it on ebay for retail price and then buy a nitro.

[FreeRideJunkie]

as long as it doesn't have the old msc and you want a decent onroad car for cheap then yeah.

[JoshsTL01]

its the old one, but if i got it i would be getting a totally new motor and ESC. prolly a super rooster and like a 9t double. i think id rather just spend money on my TL-01 but i cant decide yet.

[JoshsTL01]

i decided if im gunna get another traxxas, its gunna be the NITRO 4-tec. i dont want another electric. and besides, id spend more money tryin to get the electric 4-tec to 40 than i would the nitro 4-tec to a stock 60. and i want a gas car anyway. 300 bucks at tower hobbies isnt bad, plus i can wait for a good deal. 40 bucks off now..maybe i should jump on that.

[FreeRideJunkie]

yeah... besides, I shuddered when you said super rooster. I managed to fry mine while running a properly geared stock class motor. Good old novak...

[guver]

I would get the electric one, I just got a new one for 199. I also have a brand new nitro 4 tec for $25. It has never been opened.

[JoshsTL01]

i just bought the nitro from tower for 260

[guver]

I'm kinda interested in that electric. Is that a deal for anyone or just you? if so I would like to know where at? thanks

[JoshsTL01]

no, its on sale at the hobby shop i work at. goes down 10% each week and this week (4/4 - 4/11) its 40 % off. will be 50% off on monday and then 60% off the next monday. the store is called hobby works. www.hobbyworks.com

[Eli the rc guy]

from what ive read aout the 4 tec its preaty good. i think people dont take the 4 tec seriously because of thee price and what they see. i mean traxxas dossnet even have pic of the inside of the car.-_- but u guys make the car look good :) ;)

[JoshsTL01]

2 late :)

[tec_41]

too late for what?

[guver]

Too late 4 me, as I got a new one. I have been using it all stock w/ 8 cells for a while.

I am ready for more speed so I will go down to a lower motor soon.

[tec_41]

My 4-tec's awaiting a new reciever and a brushless system once I get a job :D

[JoshsTL01]

too late to get 60% off a 4-tec.

[Eli the rc guy]

the 4 tec uses a belt right??

[guver]

Yes, two of them

[SUPERSONIC_ST]

hi dudes, i just got a 4-tec along with a double 8 turn motor and esc but i was wondering if it can take that power, im cautious after a metal dogbone on my evader shattered cos of the power.

[guver]

Hmm, good question. I haven't pushed mine that hard ever. The most I have used is a 14 turn motor or a 20 turn motor on 8 cells. I really like the 4-tec. I say go for it and try it..

[Rain Man]

Ill be gitting a 4 Tec soon. you think it will hit 30mph with novak xrs esc,reedy quad mag 19,deans conectors and bearings? is that a good setup? I want to be able to get it sideways :D

[guver]

I think with the gearing high it should hit that top-speed easily. Seems like it will be a nice reliable set-up too. You can get away with the stock esc too if you wanted to.

[Rain Man]

Will tower ever get the carbon chassis kit? do u think i should back order it? looks like im going to have to deal with having a stock chassis. :(

[SUPERSONIC_ST]

It works fine with the low turn motor but i really do need that graphite chassis, i didnt know it existed. May need to order the 4WD belts in bulk if im gonna run it like i do.

[Rain Man]

How is everything holding up with that 8 turn motor? Are you using stock diff's or the nitro diff's?

[SUPERSONIC_ST]

everything except electroncs is stock at the moment, i think i'll need to upgrade it a lot if i want it to stay in good condition.