Duratrax Nitro Demon

[Mason Copeland]

This is the thread for all Duratrax Nitro Demon off-road trucks. Post questions, pics, info, whatever you want about the Nitro Demon by Duratrax.

P.S. I did a search and couldn't find one, so I started one.

[frontier]

AHHHHHH feels good to have our own place

just trying to break it in a little

anyway I have replaced the linkage with an adjustable one not only on the servo but also on the cross bar that runs from one bellcrank to the other . Still sloppy ! and when the truck is under power it does not like to go straight at all i reall have to drive it .
once in a turn it holds ok but not great .

I am going to take it all apart sun. and try to fix the prob .

LATAZ

[DIXIE BOY]

I have posted many times in other forums about my questions and they dont answer them. So here is the first, is it worth the money, is it fast, is there anything you should warn me about, and I have also been looking at the Blazer sst truck and the demon and cant decide which one. I would put a os 21 rgb in the blazer:D :D :D

[Mason Copeland]

Check out this thread for help, http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73835&highlight=nitro+demon+advice

Here is a link to some cool vids and pics of the demon, http://www.duratrax.com/cars/dtxd75x05.html

[Mason Copeland]

I want one now after seeing those vids!!!!!!!!!!

[Archerboi]

I was thinking about starting a thread just about the nitro demon now that I had found allot of replies to the thread I started. This is cool. So to Nascar, I have to check the parts page, maybe they will have a description of it. I made one adjustment to my throttle, since it was open pretty wide during breaking and neutral. Its closed just enought to idle ( I hope) Is it ok to fire the enging up to check all the parts, then shut it down for a week, then break it in?

To Dixieboy, so far I have not tried mine, but I cannot wait. I am not sure about the Blazer sst. I know that the ND is newer and you can get parts for it.

So far my stearing is ok. I just rolled it a few times back and forth to test it. Let me know how you guys fair with yours

[nascar3]

Archerboi, If you could get me a top pic of your demon, so I can see the throttle/brake servo horn alignment in the neutral setting. Thanks

[Archerboi]

Sure, I will try. Well, I took it out yesterday finally:D This truck is fast, powerful, and fun to drive, now the engine started easily, and I did not have no problems, until the nut that holds the shock piston worked itself loose, and caused the shock rod to pop out of the shock, causing the oil to spill out, this made the front right shock stick, now I did not know this, until it flipped over, and all the body mounts broke, not a big problem, other than that I ran 2 full tanks before the reciever batteries began to go ( Use Energizer or Duracell) I fixed the shock, I have noticed that the rear needs to be stiffer, so I get some stiffer springs when I get the body and the mounts. Other than that, the engine was running great, temp was cool too, very fast truck, cannot wait to lean it out. :p

[frontier]

Well i finally tuned mine for power after 6 tanks of fuel . Man this thing is fast . Archerboi I had the same prob with one of my shocks . need to fix that . I also broke a body mount

o yea still trying to fix the steering . I ordered the hightest tourque servo i could find from tower . I am going to use it for the steering and take the one from the steeering and use it for the throttle . I find that the stock one does not engage the brakes as good as it could .

LATAZ

[Archerboi]

My shock was the front right that got messed up, I fixed that. I have also noticed about the brakes. I was thinking, what batteries did you use? I was going to change them cause they may not last long and have lost power. I am using the batteries that came with it. I will use Duracells next. I still have 4 tanks to go to break in, also I have read on another forum that you can get Onfa hubs, and use Onfa 1/8th scale rims and tires, someone did that and he said they work great on his Nitro Demon. I will try to find out more.

[nascar3]

I called Duratrax and they said the Axis wheels will fit the Demon. This way you can stay with the 19mm hubs. Archerboi, did you start break in according to the video? The video and the instruction manual are different regarding break in. Did you notice this also. Lastly how did your steering work during your 2 tanks?

[frontier]

I did not use thier instructions at all . I went by the artcle I read in nitro mag. They say not to run the motor too rich . just start off going in circles never letting the motor 4 stroke and not changing the throttle position very much . Then each tank slowly lean up like 1/16 of a turn at a time . after 5 too 10 runs slowly again lean to power setting and watch the temp very carefully . I use an mip on board temp guage . once i reached the most powerfull setting i richened it up 1/16 to be safe . I am now running around 248 to 255 degrese which the instructions say is perfect .

I found the steering to be slopy . when ever the power came on the car would jerk to the right .
i hope the stronger servo will help .


Have Fun

[nascar3]

I have read several ways to break in also. However I am going to run rich the first few tanks. These first 2 tanks are the most important for lubrication of the piston and sleeve. The pull you are experiencing is torq steer. The article in extreme rc on the demon ran into the same problem. I guess it is something that we are all going to have to get use to.

[Archerboi]

All I did, was prime the engine with the instructions from the video, left it at the factory settings, ran a tank, and then I checked the head, with water, and it did not even boil after 10 seconds, so its running very rich, but its still fast. I got the part numbers for those ofna hubs, they are 30050 Ace Hobby has them. They will give you more options for rims and tires. I will try it. The truck should handle better with larger, softer tires. Hopefully this weekend I can finish breaking it in.

[nascar3]

Archerboi, the nut that you are talking about that came loose in your ND shock, is this the nut that is in the shock body that holds the piston? People in the thunder quake forum are having the same problem. They suggest loctiting the nut and allowing it to set for a day before adding oil to the shock. I am going to do this and add 30wt oil and 5lb springs before I run it.

[nascar3]

I just e-mailed duratrax to ask them how tight that nut should be. I took off all my shocks and all the nuts were really loose. I am willing to bet that if I ran without checking they would have came off such as yours did. I am cranking them down but not too tight to cause the piston to bind, adding 30wt oil and 5lb springs on the back and leaving the front with the stock springs. I'll see how this works. I am also going to order axis wheels and tires. I heard the stock setup is junk, I will just use them for break in then they are going.

[Archerboi]

I guess I better take all the shocks apart and check them then. I wonder if anyone had a mess like I did with the oil. I also have found out that if you tighten the nut all the way, the piston binds in the shock body, so what I did was take the piston, and use a dremel and sand of a very very little bit off from the piston. The shock works 100% better than before, with a tight nut. I will do that to the rest of them. Change to 40 in the front, 50 with the heavy springs in the rear. Also, I will get some Onfa wheel adapters for the T-Maxx. See you can use standard 17mm 1/8 wheels on those, and since the shaft from the nitro demon is 6mm, so is the shaft from the T-maxx, and I test fitted them at the LHS, it will all fit. :D I will keep ya all posted. Anyone have better luck with the servos?

[frontier]

nothing yet with the servos . I ordered them last week but not in yet . I hope by putting the high tourqe servo on the brake it will stop better . I am real confused on the whole rim thing . Are all 1/8 th hubs the same or are they diff . I would like to buy some of the rims from ofna because they come pre mounted but I don't know if they will fit ? my LHS does not carry anything for 1/8 th scale anything . This makes it very hard to try things . So please keep all of the part numbers to what you use . Thanks

[nascar3]

Duratrax just mailed me back and said that there is no torq setting for those nuts in the shaft. They said to just tighten them to where the piston does not bind. I did this already and tomorrow I will start break in. I will keep you posted. BTW I disconnected everything from the bellcranks and bench tested the steering, no binding anywhere. I installed a heavy duty servo arm in place of the servo saver. Big difference, rebounds to neutral nicely. Give it a try.

[Archerboi]

I will double check the nuts when I fill the shocks with heavier oil, 40 in the front, and 50 in the rear. I put Duracel batteries in the reciever pack, and it works so much better. I wonder how a 600mah reviever pack would work? Any ideas? I got those ofna hubs for the T-maxx conversion to the ofna monter pirate rims, and they fit on the ND good, all I have to do is drill out some material from the ofna hubs so they fit on all the way. I will post some pictures later, and I will get a large servo horn to try out the steering. Lata ;)

[stevem826]

I just got done breaking my Demon in, nd my only complant is the steering does suck!! I went to my LHS and they recommended this new linkage rod that threaded on one side and a DU-BRO turnbuckle and a new servo saver. the turnbuckle attaches to the servo saver and this will take a lot of slop out. I will look at it tomorrow to see if I can come up with any new ideas. Does anyone know how many lbs. of torque the stock steering servo puts out? Maybe I need to get a stronger one.

[Archerboi]

Here is a picture with the new ofna hubs. So far so good with the fittings although I had to take a 6mm bit and mill out some material to make a better fit. I will have more pictures with the rims and the proline dirty harry tires.

[Archerboi]

I just got a set of RPM tall body mounts for the t-Maxx, I plan t retrofit them on the ND. They seem to be allot more stiffer then the stock ND mounts. Pics as soon as I get it done. If I keep going, its going to turn into a ND hybrid :p

[b3guyRC10]

Geezzz how much ground clearance does that thing have like a cm. Does it jump well or is it basically a rally car with a jacked up body......

[Nitrocheesehead]

Iwish I would have caught this thread sooner. Everything that you have gone thru with your nitro demon I have as well. For the steering I replaced the steering servo with a 110oz metal geared servo and it still will not center, as for the slop the rod that connects the two bell cranks, if you push it all the way up and than tighten the silver thing with the allen screw tight seem to help. Also tried the T-Maxx body and that worked ok but it was pretty hacked at the wheel wells to make it work. I did put the axis rims with some street tires and that was like a night and day difference, the stock tires suck. With these tires I could blast straight up and down the road no problem. But I have given up on this truck, I got 3 quarts thru this thing and everytime I take it out something breaks, the latest after last weekend is two bent rear axels and the front universal went out. I'm not going to fix it, I have a T-maxx and my old Kyosho Rampage and I'm not gonna stick another dime into it. I'm gonna take the radio out and might buy a boat, if you guys want whats left of mine for parts let me know. I was thinking around 75 bucks plus shipping.
So it would be the chassis with Axis rims and street tires(new), Torq engine with about three quarts thru it, shocks, differentials basically everything except radio, one universal joint and two bent axels:rolleyes: Thanks, Mike

alby@charter.net

[nascar3]

How much for just the axis wheels and road tires? Leave me a PM

[hojo_10_19]

my nitro demon has a problem...when I turn right and then release the wheels return to straight....but when I turn left the wheels dont return..they just stay there...what is up? is this the servo being weak problem everyones talking about or is it something else?

thanks!

[Archerboi]

Mine does that too, I put a new heavy duty servo saver on mine, it helps a little but still does not steer correctly. I am not sure what it is. I still have to break in 3 more tanks of fuel. I will see how it works then.

[stevem826]

mine does that too!! does'nt return to straight after turning one way, but ok the other. I have 4 tanks thru it and will go back out next week. Any help in the mean time would be helpful.

[nascar3]

Archerboi, how have you been man. I still have not even started my demon yet, can you believe it. No time. The steering servo is not the problem as it is a hi torq model. I am guessing from what I see on mine, the culprit is the dual servo savers. Remember the article in RC Car on the demon? They even said it steered terrible and had tons of on throttle torq steer. I think this is what we have to get use to. I don't mind playing with the steering while I am driving my .21 4wd beater. How bout you Archerboi?

[hojo_10_19]

so, esentially, there is no way to fix it?


edit:

ha I figured out a fix...only drive on tracks that go in a circle or oval so you dont have to turn the messed up way : P

[Archerboi]

Hey Nascar, whats up, well like you, I have not had time to finish breaking it in, but now that it will get darker out later, maybe I will be able to finish, and lean it out. Yeah we have to just get used to the tork steer, but I tell you, this truck is very fast and powerful. I went back to the stock tires and rims to keep the scale look. Its not bad after all. The best thing is was the price, and since its new, we can get spare parts galore. I did replace my body mounts with RPM's , the ones for the T-maxx, did some cuttin' they seem very strong. Should last some rollovers. :D Let me know how yours is holdin'

[nascar3]

Archerboi, go with the axis wheels and foam inserts from Towers. You can then choose from the pin tires or the street tires and they are a direct fit. Far better from the hockey pucks that are on it now. You will gain faster speed and better dampening also. You can dye the white wheels any color you want. This is a nice hop-up that you will notice right away in performance.

[frontier]

Hey just finished running my demon . Even with all the steering probs this is still a fun truck to run . I must hav rolled it 20 times and just kept going. Plus the power is awesome . I smoke the hell out of my friends t max . I still have not put in the higher torque servo yet . Just havin fun .

Lataz

P.S. Post some pics of your rides

[Archerboi]

I just ran 3 tanks, I did not flip it once. It ran great. I did notice, not hardly any tork steer, either cause I never really gunned it, or cause I made it have 0 deg toe in. I could control it better. I may try those Axis rims and tires. Sounds like you guys have luck with them. Will they rub on the header? There seems not to be that much clearance. I cannot wait to lean it out, then take it to the dirt :D

[nascar3]

According to duratrax the tires wont rub. I was just over my neighbors house. They both have t-maxxes. Just awesome hearing those things shift. Reverse is a nice feature also. I got the tmaxx bug watching them. Those things take a beating and come back for more. Its sick... This will be my next nitro. I own an emaxx with Trinity pros and the esp clod conversion. I am going to sell it and buy a T. I will keep the aluminum stuff from it ( skids front and rear, servo skid, chassis braces, bumpers and tranny skid) which I will swap onto my T when I get it. can't wait. It is nice to have people to run with and trade tips with. I don't know why it took me this long to get into nitro. Now I'm hooked, my wife will be kicking me out of the house soon. Archerboi, got room for a buddy:) :)

[Archerboi]

LOL, sure. Yeah I am hooked too. If my ND keeps behaving, I will get some cool stuff for it. I have a TC 3, but not have had it out this year yet. I am going to wait to see what Traxxas comes out with, also I will wait for the Monster X to see how that is. You know, I was also thinking, since I like scale looks, of getting the Kyosho Landmax rally tires and rims. And the Landmax Ford -F150 stadium body. Also, one thing I am considering doing is replacing those shocks. They seem to leak. Do yours?

[nascar3]

Mine don't leak, however I was thinking of replacing them because I don't like that nut that holds the piston. Any ideas on who to go with? LMK

[Archerboi]

I will check around, maybe Kyosho or Onfa. I was wondering ( I do allot of it :p ) if the ND rims and the Kyosho LandMax rally tires would fit together. I read somewere that they may. Take care.

[nascar3]

They may fit. Bring one of your wheels to your LHS and have them look up Kyoshos wheels. They should tell you if the hex is the same size. Even better if they carry Kyosho parts, you can match them up right there. I am going to bring one of my wheels to my LHS and see what they have that will be a direct fit. Anything is better than those stockers. Just a thought, lmk what you think.

[Archerboi]

My LHS is a joke :mad: I know more than they do. They are rude, and impatient, and don't carry anything Kyosho, Duratrax, Tamyia or Shumacher. I will just get the hubs, and the rims, test fit them, I think they will work out fine, if they do have Kyosho stuff, find out about the tires for the Landmax series. I know that the rims for those are 17mm, so we would have to get the ofna 17mm hubs. They will fit onto the axels of the ND.

[nascar3]

My lhs is a joke as well, I know far more than the people working there. And when you do have a question, they talk down to you like your stupid for not knowing the answer. I thought this was a fun hobby. That is why I pretty much deal with Tower Hobbies. I just finished stripping my E down and posted the stuff to see how it sells. How is the Demon coming along? I will get mine started one of these days. One question, how many yanks of the starter did it take to fire up? How loud is it? I'm just going to use mine as a beater, full throttle torture runs up and down the yard. When I get around to it of course. How many tanks do you have thru yours now? BTW how are your shocks holding up , besides the leaking, how is the nut holding up? Have fun, spring is here.

[Archerboi]

Yeah I hear ya, they act like your stupid. DOH!! I ran 5 tanks total. My shocks are fine since I tightened the bold and used my dremel to sand the pistons down just a bit. I think I may get those Kyosho shocks for the Inferno. I usually pull on it 10-15 times, but I think cause I don't prime it enough, I am afraid to flood it. I will prime it more when I am ready to lean it out. How big is your yard? Must be huge. :p

[nascar3]

I have 2 acres to play on. Plenty of room. When I ran the Emaxx I could always shift up to second and run it around at full throttle. The two guys I run with also have about 2 acres apiece, so there is plenty of space for bashing. My T3 also loves the yard. Here is a pic of my demon, as you can see I never put the shocks back on. Just no time right now. I am going to Arizona Friday for a week. Hopefully when I get back I can start the break in.

[Archerboi]

Your truck looks cool. Hope you have a good trip. I have to run mine is field, construction site, or some big open area. I broke it in on the parking lot at work. I hope to get the new rims and hubs this week to test them. I have the hop up bug already :D

[nascar3]

Hey Archerboi, have you seen the guy on ebay selling the hubs and adapters that will allow you to put 2.2 on the demon. If not check it out. Looks pretty good but not $75 good. BTW, thanks for the comment on the truck.

[frontier]

What other bodies will fit on the ND ? I have already cracked mine in two places . Just having too much fun flipping over and over and over....... Any way i love this truck !!!!

[Archerboi]

I know that the Nitro Quake body will fit, also any big 1/8 scale Kyosho landmax body will fit. The only thing is those Kyosho bodies are very expensive just to thrash, maybe you can get the same body, or the NQ body.

[crazyL]

I just bought one and it should be here in a couple of days. Shoud I do anything to the truck before I drive it? and did anyone figure out how to fix the steering problems?

[Archerboi]

This truck is crazy fast. And powerful. But there are several things we have noticed and tried to fix. This is what all I did to mine. You can use this for a guide. The sterring is the biggest issue. What I did was change from the stock server to a heavy duty one. Or you can just use a heavy duty servo horn, since it has a built in servo saver. 2nd what I did was adjust the toe in to 0 deg, it comes stock with the wheels pointing in abit. I made mine str8. That seemed to help the steering and the torqe steer. The other major problem were the shocks. The nut that holds the piston on is not screwed down tight and will come off. Several other people who had TQ and ND had this issue, and when I broke mine in, the one shock came appart and caused the truck to flip, which caused all 4 body mounts to break. Now you can do many things to fix this. What I did was take all the shocks apart, then tighten all the nuts, but if you do they will bind, so I used my dremel and lightly sanded the pistons till they moved freely up and down with the nuts tight. Or you can use locktight and just screw the nuts until the shocks work smooth up and down with no binding.
The 3rd and last issue, tires. They are bad. Hard, and toylike. If you can, you can get some Axis rims, they fit right on, I am waiting for them to come from Tower :rolleyes: That will be a major improvement. Hope these help.

[nascar3]

Archerboi, LMK how you like the axis rims and tires. I am going to order them soon. I have yet to break it in. Maybe tomorrow. The weather around here has been pretty good. Is this bad boy loud? I have yet to hear it. Have fun.....

[crazyL]

thanks alot for the info. I like crazy fast because im crazy L. I will check for all of these problems when i get it. I just hope I dont have any of them. Did any of you call duratrax and ask them about the steering?

[Archerboi]

Yeah Nascar its loud. I had a great time running it the other week. Now I have to lean it out just abit. Those rims should be here soon, then I can finish everything up and take it out to terrorize. :D

[frontier]

Yea I tried to talk to them and so did a few other people . I don't think anyone got a responce . I found the best way to help the steering is to replace the stock servo saver with a stronger one and replace the stock linkage with an adjustable tie rod .
this took out a lot of the slop . I also replaced the servo with a stronger servo . I think next I am going to replace the servo with a 1/4 scale servo . I just need to make a new servo mount .

O yea , don't forget to tighten all the screws before you run the truck . I also put loctite on all the motor screws .

Lataz

[nascar3]

Whats up Arcerboi. Well today I ran 7 tanks thru it. I ran the first two real fat, 3 turns out. Then leaned in 1/8 over the next 2. I still have it very rich, lots of smoke. I willl keep this setting for the next few tanks. This thing is ridiculously fast. I flipped it twice and broke 2 body mounts. No big deal. I had replacements from my E-Maxx. The other things that happened were the grub screw on the front right wheel hex backed out. No damage, just re loctited. And the grub screw for the rear brake arm was lost. So I ran only using the front brake. It still stopped pretty good. I put in a new grub screw and re loctited when I put it away for the day. Its all set for tomorrow. NO problems with the shocks at all. they held up prett good. The first five tanks were on parking lot pavement. The last 2 were in my yard. So the shocks got a pretty good workout. We'll see how tomorrow goes. talk to ya lata.

[Mason Copeland]

Anyone have any pics?

[crazyL]

I will post pics as soon as i get mine this week. Im so exited do you think i will like it more than my nitro stampede?

[nascar3]

They are 2 entirely different vehicles. The first thing you will notice is that you get caught up easier because this thing is so low. I am use to the emaxx and tmaxx suspension. So this thing soaks up bumps awful. It does alot of bouncing around. Still fun though because the smallest bump in my yard sends this thing airborne. The next thing you will notice is the speed. IT blows the trx 15 away like no ones business. My neighbors both have tmaxxes (which I am getting very soon) and it is no comparison in speed. The .21 is definately an experience in driving skills. You will have alot of fun with it. Just after every run go over the screws and make sure they are all there. Resist the urge to peg the throttle during break in. And forget the video and book for tuning. This engine needs at least 10 tanks to loosen up. Have fun.

[Archerboi]

Sup, I mounted my axis rims with the tires, and there on the truck now. I will post some pics today or tomorrow. It looks allot better with the bigger tires and rims. I was going to take it out, but its been raining all weekend. And today also. Wed looks good, for a off road mud bog lol, I will run 2 more tanks then lean mine out more. Your right about the power, its crazy. :p

[nascar3]

Definately let me know how the axis gear works out. I will go by your recommendation on wether to get them or not. this thing is a blast to drive and very simple to start and tune. I love the simplicity of it. It starts no matter what setting the carb is at and stays idling perfectly. I still have a few more tanks left for break in. I am still running with the body off and it is really starting to get dirty, nothing the air compressor can't fix. Will post some pics later in the week. You were right this thing is very loud. I love it.

[crazyL]

Does this truck flip easily? Even on the duratrax video its shown flipping. I am experienced with controlling flipping with my nitro stampede i just hope this one doesnt flip easier.

[nascar3]

Whats up boys. My demon is on the shelf for a little while. Today while I was fooling with it in the yard it suddenly stopped. Still ideling but would not go forward. I figured maybe the clutch spring came off or something. I pulled the motor off and checked the clutch out, everything was fine. Looking closer at the truck the left front cv axle snapped clear off at the uv joint in the wheel hub. This thing has that much power to snap a steel axle. I have to send the piece back to Duratrax so they can replace it. Figure I will have to wait about 2 wks or so. LOL... How have things been going with you Archerboi?

[Archerboi]

Hi Nascar, sorry to hear about the axle, I am sure that Duratrax will replace it. I have not gotten the chance to take mine out yet. I know several places were I can go. Just need some more free time, I hope this weekend sometime. Well were is a picture of my machine, I will take better pictures when I can.

[nascar3]

That looks sweet. LMK how it compares to stock. It must give you a little extra ride height from the ground to the chassis. Did you get them from TOWERS? I just spoke with Duratrax and they said send in the axle and they will replace it.. Parts will be hard to come by seeing how they discontinued this model. Prior to breaking down today, I leaned the needle just a little. Man this thing flies. Too much power for this little truck, but it is fun. You run out of space very quickly. Keep me updated with those wheels as I will eventually be getting some. Lata

[Archerboi]

Did they discontinue the ND? That sucks. I hope they will still have parts for it. I hate it when they do that. :mad: I hope to take mine out this weekend. I will let you know how it runs. See yaz

[Archerboi]

Hey Nascar, do you think you can contact Duratrax and ask them if they still will have spare parts for the ND. I think they should for a long while. I got those rims at tower, and they fit perfectly. The tires are from Pro-Line.

[Jeremy Inda]

One powerful FAST car!!! The troubles I found where few for such a low cost RC car.
I would made a lot of mistakes if I had put it together myself.
1) Re- glue tires super glue is cheep, I sanded down the rims for a good bite.
2) Changed the rear lower shock screws I used 4-40 thread rod through all of the A arm.
3) I changed to a 6 cell flat battery pack lots of power.
4) Then I glued the "shock nut" down and adjusted "sanded" #99 for rub.
5) Replaced the servo saver on the servo (didn't help).
6) Changed the "steering servo link" with a rod ends and 4-40 rod. I had to change the length to make sure the link on the other end NEVER GOES OVER 89.9 DEGREES. IF it does the servo can't turn it back. The link that came with the car locked the wheels LTO. (left turn only). The servo saver on the servo is now turned to the back of the car the link is longer (just a bit).
7) To the LHS got Team Associated rear axle shims for 1/4" rear axles ($1.50) The A arms all got a shim some two. The #46 the servo saver arm the one that will bind if I goes over 89.9 degrees would lift up and down. I had to add whole stack to keep it still, I could see a large space from it to the E-clip. Replaced the #47 servo saver arm with rod ends and 4-40 rod and 2 SHCS 4-40. The steering seams fine with a little bit of tow in.

I never thought the car would even run at all. My friends and I had cars in the 80's. Which mostly where over priced for there performance, Some fell apart, some handed poorly. This is a fun back yard basher for about $250 from tower hobbies. I don't think you will get more bang for the buck then this one.

[crazyL]

I just broke the car in this morning in a huge parking lot. Its amazingly fast. I was running 3.5 turns out and not going half throttle and it was still so fast. I thought it was 4-stroking so i shut it off and leaned it a little. Now i am doing some off-roading and its so fun.

[crazyL]

can someone tell me if they make aluminum body posts. I already broke mine my first time offroad. Thanks.

[nascar3]

Whats up boys. Demon is still on the shelf. Waiting for parts. I just bought a nice parts lot for the Demon off E-bay. It includes a bottom chassis plate. radio box, complete hubs with cva's, motor mounts, handle(bumper) front and rear diff cases, arms and some other things. I purchased the axis rims and some pro-line spiked tires from towers. Should be getting them soon. BIG NEWS got my T Maxx today. last one in the area. Everyone is out of them. I got the green one. I am so psyched. I'll start break in tomorrow. will post pics of my toys after my Demon gets fixed and the axis and pro line stuff come in. Lata.

[Archerboi]

Oh thats cool Nascar, hope the T-Maxx goes well. Crazy, yes it is very fast and powerful, I have not leaned mine out yet and its wild. You know what I did, I made some body posts from the RPM long body mounts for the T-Maxx, they screw right on, but you have to trim them. They are very very strong. I hope to take mine out soon. The next thing I want is a Megaforce :D

[nascar3]

Hey Archerboi. The Mega Force is the same price as the tmaxx. For the same price you don't get a 2 speed and you have to decide if you want brake or reverse. You cannot have both at the same time. Also the maxx has much more suspension travel. Do yourself a favor and get the Maxx. Who cares if everyone and their brother has one. They are just sooooo cool.

[crazyL]

Actually you should get the trerra crusher. It has a .18 engine 2 speed foward and reverse. And its bigger than the t-maxx.

[nascar3]

I was seriously considering the Terra Crusher. However the T has a bigger aftermarket following and stock parts are pretty easy to come by. the terra crusher still needs to be tested by people and develop a following like the T. I also parted out my E-Maxx, selling everything that could not transfer over to the T-Maxx. I made back just as much as I bought it for. I got to keep the body, tires, and the complete front and rear ends. So I have a bunch of relplacement parts should I break anything. The next big thing that I am waiting to get is the monster x by kyosho. That thing looks awesome.

[Archerboi]

Well, yesterday was another washout. When I had time to run the ND, I was going to head to my friends, but we got some storms, and that was the end of that. Well, maybe this week. I was thinking of the T-Maxx, but I like to go with the underdog at times. There is something I like about the MegaForce. I was also thinking of getting a Losi RTR truck. They look real cool.

[crazyL]

When you say trimming what kind of trimming will i have to do? Also the nuts backed out of my shock too and it made the shaft come out of the shock body. It also broke my oil seal thing on the shock so im gonna talk to duratrax and see if they can hook me up with that part. Its not like its expensive its just that no hobby shops near me carry duratrax and i dont want to pay the shipping costs on tower.

[nascar3]

well my tires and rims for the demon came in yesterday. What a difference. Have yet to run it, still waiting for parts. I just won another auction on e-bay for the rear dogbones, outdrives and wheel hubs. So next time if something breaks I will have replacement parts available How is everything on your end Archerboi?

[Archerboi]

Hey Nascar, I took my machine out yesterday, man I let it rip, and it was doing fine, very fast and pwerful, I rolled it a few times and it kept goin. One problem I had was the setscrews on the drive train came loose ( I thought that Duratrax thread locked them) but I guess they did not. I tightend a few up, and back to running. I did not lean it out any. One thing I noticed was my engine takes several pulls ( like 10 to 15) to fire up. Does yours? What can I do about that? I am thinking of getting Axis arms to make it wider also. With a new truck body and make it a 1/8 scale stadium truck. That would be wild. See you soon.

[nascar3]

Make sure your glow starter is freshly charged. It should only take 5-6 tugs if it is tuned correctly. About the axis arms, I was thinking about that also, You would also need the front cva's for the axis and the rear dogbones for the axis. As they are longer than the demons. I was going to price it out at Towers and see if it was worth doing>

[nascar3]

Hey Archerboi, BTW how did the buggy tires perform compared to stock? Did you glue them to the rims? I am going to keep the original ones for on road use and the pin spike buggy for off road.

[Archerboi]

I called Duratrax and they said its a direct fit with the arms. I priced the arms and you should pay close to $40 for fr/r upper and lower. I will most likely do this. The tires stick like glue, well worth the upgrade. I am using the stock glow plug lighter with a duracel battery. Maybe I need more power for that.

[crazyL]

Maybe you arent priming your engine enough. All i do is put my finger over the pipe and pull the pull starter until fuel is in the engine and it starts in 1 or 2 pulls.

[ecatbox]

how big are the wheels on the nitro demon? the landmax ones are 2.6" and use a 19mm hex also (not 17) but with 8mm axles...

[Archerboi]

The axles on the ND are 6mm. I used the axis rims and proline tires, they work great. I am planning to get the axis arms and make it wider. I had a great time running it though.
I guess I am afraid that I will flood the engine so I don't prime it enough. And maybe I should use a better glow starter. I use the stock one. What do you guys use? Later

[nascar3]

I use a rechargeable glow starter. Just plug it in when I am done for the day and it is ready for the next time. Make sute that if you decide to go for the axis arms you will need the front axles and rear dogbones for the axis/quake. The demon does not fit. They are smaller. Still waiting on my parts. The engine is still on my bench. Have not even put it back in yet. There is no ambition if I don't have the parts. Hopefully this weekend. Lata

[Archerboi]

I will get the lower arms 1st, maybe the upper ones can be lenghtened to the same size as the lower ones, if not I will get the uppers as well. And the shafts, and I will get a more powerful glow starter, I am using the one it came with, it only uses a C cell. When you ordered your parts, did you get it express? You should have them by now.

[crazyL]

oh no this is terrible. My clutch bell stripped. Thats gonna cost me. I dont know why it stripped i havent touched it or anything. I havent done jumping for it to shift in anyway. This sucks so much balls. Duratrax better replace it or im gonna sell the car this shouldnt be happening the 2nd damn week i own my car. Im beginning to think duratrax has horrible quality.

[frontier]

Hey Crazy , did you go through and lock tite all of the metal to metal bolts before you started it ? If not you need to . With any RTR kit it is a good idea to check all of the bolts to make sure they are all tight . You don't need to go off road to losen bolts . The engine vibration is what does it . It is also a good idea to always check the eight engine mount bolts before every run . It only takes a second and can save you a lot of trouble .

Don't feel bad you are not the only person to have this problem.
I know 6 people including myself who have done this with at least 5 different brand of RTR kit . Traxxas , hpi , ofna , Duratrax They all have their kits assembled over seas .

This is also just the nature of the beast . Nitro cars are under a lot of vibration . nuts and bolts will come loose often unless you tighten them every once and a while ( Every three to five tanks of gas )

Lataz

[Archerboi]

The other day I was running mine, and I though that Duratrax had put loctite on the axles, but they came loose, then the rear shaft. I did not strip anything. I may get a Dominator when it comes out.

[crazyL]

nope i didnt locktite it. I never had to on my stampede. Its no big deal they will replace it for free. Duratrax seems to have really good customer support.

[nascar3]

Go thru and loc-tite anything metal to metal. I have had a few important screws back out on me. No real damage but could have been avoided had I done a pre run check. You live and learn, this is the world of nitro. About your clutchbell stripping, sounds like your motor mounts came loose. Duratrax will replace it at no charge to you. Don't give up on it, it is a good solid truck. Mine keeps getting stronger with every tank of fuel. I still have yet to lean it out. I have 2 acres to play on and I run out of room quick.

[Archerboi]

Hey Nascar, did you get your T-Maxx yet? I am thinking of getting the Ofna Dominator. That truck looks great. My ND is in now. I am debating on putting longer arms on it, or just getting the Dominator. I know that I am hooked on trucks now :p

[nascar3]

yes sir. Have already put a half gallon of the blue stuff thru her. The truck is awesome. Will post some pics by weeks end. My demon is up and running again. I'll tell you that has to be the best $250 I have ever spent. That truck will just not quit. I have the thing so fat my yard is filled with smoke and the thing still does 40. I dont dare lean it, I'm afraid of the power. How are things on your end?

[crazyL]

I just thought of something. The thunder quake wheels have a 19mm hub thing too so cant u just put the thunder quakes tires on the demon? That would be insane it would have such huge ground clearance and be alot wider.

[Archerboi]

Hey Crazy, thats right, but I will go several steps further. See the ND, Axis, TQ, and NQ share almost all the parts. I just got some Axis arms and they fit on my ND perfectly. So I will turn the ND into a killer monster truck with some Axis parts. The only thing is that you have to use the rear of the Axis for the front of the ND since the ND's front and rear gearboxes seem to be the front of Axis'. But everything seems to fit. I will keep you guys posted.

[frontier]

Hey Archerboi ,
Did you have any prob with the tires rubbing on the frame because of the narrow arms ?

Also Are you saying that only the rear axis arms fit the front and the rear or are you saying the rear axis arms go on the front and the front axis arms go on the rear ?


Thanks for the help . I want to do the same thing .

[Archerboi]

Hi, yes for the easy way of converting, use the front axis arms on the rear of the ND, and the rear arms of the axis on the front of the ND, here is why. On the rear of the Axis and NQ, you can adjust the toe in, so they use the same front set up on the ND but in the rear. The front of the Axis and NQ use the regular c-carrier sterring set up. Also you can save some money by just getting the lower Axix fr/r arms, and using the ND upper arms, just get the longer rods for the Axis for the uppers. I will have pictures when mine is done, I ordered them from Tower already. :p

[nascar3]

Hey Archerboi, whats goin on? How are things on your end? Here is the pic I promised. I have run the demon with the axis rims and proline tires a few tanks now. The thing is really fast with the larger tires. My T-Maxx has almost a gallon thru it and it keeps getting stronger. I can't believe how fast it is, only having a .15 in it. The 2 speed really helps. I still have it on the rich side. If I leaned it out a little it would be even faster, but I don't need to go that fast, I'm not racing anyone. How is your machine treating you?

[Archerboi]

Hey Nascar, nice pictures of your rides. Mine will soon look like your T-Maxx. My ND is apart now. I ordered Axis arms and turnbuckes, and Ofna rims and hubs. I ran it like yours is set up now, and its very powerful and fast, so I thought it would make a great monster truck. I will keep ya posted on the conversion. Everything seems like a direct fit. Take care. Lataz :D

[nascar3]

Sounds good. Keep me updated, post some pics as soon as your done and give me the tower part #'s that you used. I most likely will do the same with mine. The way the demon is now, it is terrible on the bumpy surfaces. This type of upgrade should significantly change its handling abilities. BTW thank you for the comment on my machines. Lata.....

[Archerboi]

Well, I think I will have to do a full makeover. I got the arms and upper rods, and everything works fine, but the upper rods and the sterring hubs don't fit or work right. So I will just have to get the Axis upper arms, and use the correct F/R setup like the Axis, not a biggie, just need more parts. I will keep ya posted. Take care.

[crazyL]

does packing the center diff with heavy greece or somethign lock it so that all 4 tires have the same amount of power at the same time? because that is what i really want for some real offroading. can u tell me the best way to do it? thanks

o yeah im racing a t-maxx this weekend do you think he even has a chance against my demon offroad?

[Archerboi]

I just asked the same question, locking the diff will make the power go evenly to all 4 wheels. Now you can order some diff locking grease from Ace-Hobbies.com they have different weights, like 8,000 to 10,000. Also they they total lock lube. I will do that to mine also. But yes that will help out with the power allot.

[nascar3]

Crazy, it all depends on the surface you are running on. You say offroad, is it dirt packed or rutted and bumpy? I have both trucks, the demon is by far faster on nice even ground. However if you get into the rough stuff, the demon gets caught up on everything. This is where the T-maxx rules and will win all the time. My advice to you if you want to win, race on nice level ground. This way your .21 will smoke your friends maxx. Have fun.....

[crazyL]

o sorry Archerboi i didnt realize u posted the same thing. i just skim through the posts. thanks for the info. and nascar its going to be on pretty short grass.

[Archerboi]

Man, if you guys decide to take your center diff apart, be ready for a hellish time. I don't wanna wish that on anybody. I am not sure what they used for those hex screws to hold the drive cups on, but it must have been either CA, or red threadlock, cause I had to use my dremel to take them both off. I had to cut with the cutting wheel. Now I have to order 2 new cups. :mad:

[crazyL]

yo i know exactly what u mean man. I stripped the hex screws so now im just leaving it alone. It seems like its welded in there.

[Archerboi]

Well, you can get them off like I did. I was determined to get them off lol. I think I will leave the pinion alone though since I seen that it was the same. My Ofna hubs and rims came today :p

[Archerboi]

Here is a update on my ND, its apart hehee. I am waiting on more parts from Tower to finsish the conversion. I am going to make allot of changes. I already got the Ofna hubs and rims, and the hubs are a direct fit. I also will change the clutch bell to a 11 tooth for more power. Also I am changing the radio, and adding Ofna servo horns and linkages. I removed materal from the area were the sterring rod is attached, and that made it turn very freely. I locked the center diff by turning 2 small gears upside down, also I will use the stock sterring servo for the throttle and brakes, and get a Futaba heavy duty for the sterring. More updates and pics soon. ;)

[crazyL]

sounds like it will be a killer truck thanks for keeping us updated. Duratrax has bad customer service though. I sent out my clutch bell May 7th and it still hasnt come yet. I am seriously hating them because i would have bought one if i knew it would take this long. Now i know if i buy one it will just come the next day.

[frontier]

Hey Archerboi , I had no probs coverting to the axis lower arms while using the ND upper ones . All i had to do was buy some threaded rod to replace the shorter ones . It worked perfect . I also used the axis steering rods . And that was it . What prob are you having with the upper arms ?

Anyway I will post a pic soon . Lataz

[Archerboi]

Hi Frontier, well I got the Axis upper rods, they were short for the nitro demons upper arms. And they did not match the front hub carriers correctly so I just got all the Axix's suspension components to be safe. I think that the Axis upper arms are longer for the longer lowers, so when you thread the rod in you will have a wider setup. How does your conversion work? I cannot wait to get mine all together. I will post pics while working on it. Take care.

[Archerboi]

Originally posted by crazyL
sounds like it will be a killer truck thanks for keeping us updated. Duratrax has bad customer service though. I sent out my clutch bell May 7th and it still hasnt come yet. I am seriously hating them because i would have bought one if i knew it would take this long. Now i know if i buy one it will just come the next day.

Thanks, I will keep you all updated. You should have gotten the bell back by now. Or they may just be busy. I have noticed that these cars have good parts, but they may not be assembled correctly or put together in a hurry ( like production at work ) hence failure when running. I am rebuilding mine, and even when I was running the nitro demon and I fixed the shock problems, it ran fine, I flipped it several times and nothing broke. You know what they say, haist makes waist. Peace;)

[crazyL]

I called them up and they said it was shipped may 14 by parcel post. And that takes 10-14 days. They r cheap that shipping method tells me. Today was the 11th day from the time they shipped and still no part and now i have to wait till at least tuesday because of memorial day weekend.

[Archerboi]

I guess its on its way. You know if you get something free in the mail you will wait longer for it than something you pay for. I ordered a 11 tooth bell from Kyosho for my Nitro Demon. For more power.

[frontier]

The set up works great . I have put three tanks through it with no prob at all . The sus seems to flow much better over the bumps . Now I just need to get a body to fit .


LATAZ

[crazyL]

Hey frontier what are the exact parts u used and prices. I might want to do this when i get some money. Also im looking into getting those adapters on ebay so that u can put t-maxx wheels and tires on the demon. Would i need to gear up or down if i put these on and do u think it would flip more or less? Thanks.

[Archerboi]

Originally posted by frontier
The set up works great . I have put three tanks through it with no prob at all . The sus seems to flow much better over the bumps . Now I just need to get a body to fit .


LATAZ


I am getting a E-Maxx body because they don't have the engine and starter dimples in the truck bed. That should fit with no problem. Do you have buggy rims and tires or MT rims or Tires?

[frontier]

I am using ofna rims with pro line tires ( buggy style )

[nascar3]

Archerboi. Pics and part numbers when you are done, please. sounds like you got a beast there. Peace...

[crazyL]

Yes! my clutch bell came today and i just put 3 tanks through it. Wow it feels good to drive again. Does your guys brakes suck too? because mine are terrible. I have an extra traxxas high torque servo i might put there in place when i get a case for it. Do u think that would make it stop better.

[crazyL]

I doubled the shock tower b/c i won another set on ebay. Now it is bend proof. heres a pic i said i would post a while back:

[crazyL]

another

[crazyL]

last one for now:

[nascar3]

Crazy, my brakes work fine. Truck stops on a dime even from full throttle. You might want to check your receiver batts or make adjustments to either the front or rear brake. But the stock form works excellent. I just picked up the wheel adapters to put the t-maxx wheels on the demon off e-bay. I probably will have to go down on the clutchbell a few teeth. Will let you know how it goes.

[Archerboi]

Crazy, my brakes worked great until the reciever batteries began to loose power so I replaced them, after that it stopped perfectly.
Nascar, I got the Kyosho 11 tooth clutch bell for mine, it fits directly with the stock clutch, you will have to get the Kyosho roller bearing also. I just got more parts. The upper arms and front knuckles. So far so good. I also got the outdrive Us for the center diff. I used blue locktite so I won't have to cut those off like I had to to with the stock ones hehehehe. More to come.

Peace

[nascar3]

Did you get the clutchbell from Towers? If so what was the part # for it and the bearing? LMK!! Thanks

[Archerboi]

Hi Nascar, the part numbers are: LXT887 Kyosho Clutch Bell 11T Burns and LXT862 Kyosho Roller Clutch Bearing Burns DX/T Burns/Vanning You can either type the part numbers in or just the description. Here are 2 pics of my conversion so far. I will get the rear parts next week. I got these parts from Tower. Now you have to move the engine back from the stock location using the upper mounts, not the bottom. Those are for side to side, were the tops are back and forth for perfect gear mesh. Also its good to get one extra washer for the bell so it does not move back and forth allot. Let me know if you need anymore help. Lata

[Archerboi]

Here is the 2nd one.

[crazyL]

MY GOD ANOTHER PART BROKE! This is really pissing me off now. All i was doing was driving on my propety on the grass and guess what somehow my Servo Saver Arm(Left) breaks. Looks like i wont be driving for another week. I get about 5 tanks until a part breaks again. Man i hate duratrax. Sorry for the angryness.

[Archerboi]

I am sorry that happened. Did it just snap? I flipped mine several times, did endos and nothing broke. Maybe some parts are more brittle than others. Thats odd though.

[ecatbox]

just a side note, you can use 5x8mm bearings instead of the roller bearing (which has a tendency to melt if you get too crazy)

[crazyL]

Theres a metal peice on it and it just snapped off somehow. Its patr #44 in the exploded view and DTXC8660. I orded it from the hobby shop and should be here wednesday. I tried CA gluing it back but no luck. I was even thinking about 1 day shipping from tower but that would be $33 for a $3 part not very rational.

[Archerboi]

Originally posted by bukkake
just a side note, you can use 5x8mm bearings instead of the roller bearing (which has a tendency to melt if you get too crazy)

Thanks I think I will get 2. I did notice that it had plastic around the rollers and it did not look that it would last long.

[jdm3849]

I have seen this nitro demon in the tower hobbies magazine for only 249$ rtr that seems like a REALLY good deal.
but when i went to tower hobbies website it said that it was discontinued,so whats the deal? if tower dosnt sell it anymore where can i get it because i like when an r/c is unpredictable to drive,it makes it fun

[Archerboi]

Yes that price is what got me to get mine. This truck is very fast, but the downfall with the speed comes handling. Since its narrow, driving it on a parking lot or smooth dirt areas are better. It will bounce and flip if your not carefull. But when I found out that I could convert mine to a MT, I was happy that I did not have to get a all new truck. I used the parts from the Duratrax Axis and NQ, they fit right on, plus I am using hop up parts as I go along.

[Archerboi]

Originally posted by bukkake
just a side note, you can use 5x8mm bearings instead of the roller bearing (which has a tendency to melt if you get too crazy)
Will the bearings slip through the clutch bell? Or will they stay in place? at the end of the bell housings? :confused:

[ecatbox]

tower actually has a little kit...dunno how good the duratrax bearings are but will give you the idea how to set it up

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXD043

[jdm3849]

if it isnt a hassle could someone take a pic of their car for me and make it the chassis without the body and put like a soda can next to it so i can see how big it is? also i still need to know if i can get it from tower because it says discontinued.
what are some good things about this car,is it good to go on not too rough gravel and on the street once in a while?

[Archerboi]

Originally posted by bukkake
tower actually has a little kit...dunno how good the duratrax bearings are but will give you the idea how to set it up

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXD043

Thats the ticket. Thanks. I would have gotten those in the 1st place if I knew about them hehehehe. :D

[Archerboi]

Originally posted by jdm3849
if it isnt a hassle could someone take a pic of their car for me and make it the chassis without the body and put like a soda can next to it so i can see how big it is? also i still need to know if i can get it from tower because it says discontinued.
what are some good things about this car,is it good to go on not too rough gravel and on the street once in a while?

I would, but mine is all in pieces for my conversion to a MT :D

[crazyL]

nice i took my car apart and my brakes are now fixed magically. Now it stops on a dime i love it.

[nascar3]

Hey boys, whats been going on. No posts lately. I purchased the hub adapters/extensions that let me mount t-maxx meat to the demon. All I can say is OMG what a difference. The truck is wider, more stable and jumps as good as my T-maxx. I ordered the ring and pinion gears for the Quake to put into the demon because it is geared too high with the stock demon ring and pinion gears. Seeing how the quake/axis and demon all share the same clutchbell and main gear the diff gears will make all the difference. For $150 ($50 for the adapters, $100 for the ring and pinion gears front and rear) I have a killer monster truck. Will post pics as soon as it is all put together.

[Archerboi]

I am taking a ND break. I need to save some money for a new computer, and parts for my TC3, I have not ran that since last summer. I have some nice stuff planned for it.

[nitrodemon2500]

i LOVE my nitro demon. but my shocks are stiff, on road it is only riding on 2 tires. I had mine for 5 mounths (I admit,Im a beginner). The first day i got it i pull the trigger all the way, during breaking in i know that was wrong. the tirs started to spin, and it moved like a bullet! I slammed the brakes and the wheel nut fell off. it still runs after i had a run away, blown head gasket, and bad glow plugs! ill post the pictures later. camera dosent work!!!!!

[hojo_10_19]

I just got my car back from duratrax for repairs under warranty (unrelated to story about to be told but just to show that it is a bad buy) anyways im runnin the ND around at a nearby field when all of a sudden it stops....the engine sounds really high pitched and really really fast also......so i run over to it thinkin it is stuck on something, well it isnt. I turn it off and walk it over to parking lot to investigate. I look over it and it all looks fine. I start it up thinkin it might of just been a temporary thing. It makes same sound and wont go. I turn it off again and look it over, then i spin wheel... heres the prob the wheels spin indepently....big problem. I am guessing that there is prolly somethin wrong with the differential....anyone have input? this is getting *** that i haveta keep payin 15 bucks to send in my brand new truck for repairs.

oh well thanks for input

[nitrodemon2500]

it might be the gear mesh. between the spur and clutch gears, it will just lock up and just sit there will you rev. happend to my truck. fast little sucker though. i will be honest, it scares me.

[hojo_10_19]

i took apart the box for the differential...heres the problem....the the dogbone came out.....wanna know how it came out? well..because whenever they put it together at the factory they forgot to put a screw on the thing it slips into. (it didnt just fall out because it was inside a enclosed area so if it had fallen out it wouldve been there when i opened it up (opened up on concrete inside house so no way it hidden in carpet or what have you) now heres the prob, there seems like no way to put the dogbone back in, you cant take apart enough pieces (they are pieced together with these pen things not screws or whatever) to just insert it in one end and then put back together...you have to slip it in either the wheel side or the differential side and then into the other..and it is about 1/2 inch too long to do that......hwo the hell am i suppose to fix this?!?!?!?!?!??! this is really pissin me off....

well thanks if ya can help : )

[PJ2806]

i have had my nitro demon for about 4 months and its running great. no problems and nothins broke yet. i was wondering what the torson diff. is and what it can do. is it a good idea to get? thanks :confused:

[Archerboi]

Hey guys, I am going to sell my ND. Its like in pieces cause I was going to make it into a MT, but like always, I changed my mind. I have Axis parts for it, as well as most of the stock ND parts including the enginge, gearboxes etc, I am going to get a XXX-NT RTR. So, maybe I will sell it as is for $125. Let me know who is up for it.

[hojo_10_19]

can anyone tell me what size allen key (hex wrench whatever you wanna call it) i need to unscrew part number dtxc9757. Number 25 on the exploded view of the front suspension.

pleeeeeeaaaaaseeeeeeee....once i fix this part i will finally be able to run my nd again!

thank you!



also if you know all the different sizes you need to take apart the ND that would be super helpful!

thanks : )

[nitrodemon2500]

can someone tell me, do i have to take the upper plate to get at my rear brake pads? it would help a lot.

[dtx]

Hei Archie shot me an e-mail, budimanh@yahoo.com
I am interested in your offer and let me know please, I have an axis, and I love every pieces of it.

[crazyL]

yes u do have to take off teh upper plate.

[nitrodemon2500]

I drove my nd! it was fun until the gears shreaded! I was racing hondas at half throttle! I had no trouble steering. but starting it was unusual. on the 7th pull it just started right up. it has a shorter recoil starter. broke the string 5 times. by the way, thanks crazyL.

[tl_ke_racer]

can you put a kyosho landmax body on the demon or a maxx jeepbody??????

[AaronBall]

Are anyone else's Deamons still in running condition? I know 3 other people who bought the Deamon the same week as I did and I think only one of them is still usable. I have done a lot of little tweaks to my Deamon and it has actually run for several tanks of fuel without something rendering it inoperable. I have not bought any parts for my Deamon either. Two things I did that have made it a usable truck are:

1) Ofna Diff lock lube in the differentials (all 3). This prevents all the power from going to just the one wheel that has the least amount of traction.
2) Replaced the steering servo saver with a solid servo arm. This prevents the steering from staying in the last direction turned. It still pulls to the right under hard acceleration on pavement, but some practice makes it tolerable. I don't notice that problem off-road. I just need a dirt track to use it and it would be fine! :D

Other things that I have HAD to fix are:
I drilled through the lower shock mounting screw holes and used long self tapping screws to hold the shocks on.
I have rebuilt all the shocks and have used Red lock-tight on the nut that holds the piston to the shaft.
I have wrapped a strip of decal sheet around the shock bodies so the springs don't rub into the aluminum.
I replaced the 4 cell battery pack with a 5 cell NiMh pack I put together from old batteries I got from work. I added a charge plug so I don't have to keep opening up the radio box and fighting with that mess.
Seal the fuel inlet nipple on the carburetor. It does not seal well without some help and causes the engine to run lean no matter how rich the needle.
I have checked, adjusted and lock-tighted all the screws on the rest of the vehicle.
I have had to reglue the tires.
I had to replace the pull start handle with a homemade one after the original was lost when the string melted through on the exhaust during a long run in a field. I made one from a piece of plastic clothes hangar, a T-maxx shock bushing and some fuel line.

Additional improvements:
Added a failsafe for the throttle.
Small springs on the brake shafts in place of the ring of fuel line. This makes the brakes have some linearity, not just on or off.
Added foam inside the tires. I still have to get some repacements that get traction.

Planned improvements:
Replace center tie rod. DONE, still pulls to the right under acceleration.
Different body.
Tires and maybe rims if I can find something. I would like something wider than the Axis wheels.
Change the fuel pickup system in the tank so it doesn't start sucking bubbles half way through a tank of gas. DONE, I just removed the round plastic thing on the tank, drilled and inserted a fuel tubing nipple that sticks straight out.
Lights for night driving. One light in front is rigged up, but not nicely installed.

[trsi]

I'd like to know what my limitations are in replacing and upgrading the wheels for my Duratrax Demon. Are the hubs the same size on the AXIS? or OFNA?

I've seen and heard about so called 'adapters' to allow for some change - does this actually work?


Thanks guys!

[cleanmaxx brian]

Hi! I have a set of 4 stock tires BRAND NEW for the Nitro Demon. I thought they would fit my Kyosho Landmax2 but they are a shade too big. So I do not need them. I am looking to get $22 shipped. If interested, let me know ASAP at thebman31@juno.com I will be putting them on e-bay on sunday.

[DeadCow]

Anyone want too help out a bit??
I would like to know the size of the ND tires outher and inner diameter, and width.

Also, has anyone ever tried to run the ND on a beach?? if so, did it work OK or did it just suck??

[JISNITRO]

Hey do any of you guys know if the nitro quakes' wheels will fit on the ND with enough room so nothing rubs, or better yet , is there any othe 2.2 wheels and tires or monster tires that can be put on the ND. I wanna turn my ND into a monster truck, the cheapest way possible. Any info would really help. Thanks!

[nitroaddctd]

Any body know if the ring & pinion gears from a nitro quake will fit the demon/axis?I put OFNA nitro blazer rims & tires on my demon with some slight body alterations.I am going to go to a 13 gear clutch bell,but i think the gearing is still a little high.

[murphy3688]

i think im going back into nitro this summer after last summer, which was elec off road, which was a very simple task. them things are so simple! anyway, i think the guys gonna pull through and sell me this ND hes got. 1/8 w/ .21 prolly like everybody else's. just curious on how you guys think about em. saw that the biggest problem is the servo, and i think by the posts here i can fix it. please rate the following on the stock ND 1-10:

1) stock wheels
2) stock steering servo
3) carburator tune-ablility
4) motor reliablility
5) tranny
6) stock radio gear
7) tank size/ run time
8) overall compared to some of the other big names like the gt

thanks! (below is the probable car)

-murphy

[murphy3688]

new car i should get

[old phart]

The one you are looking at does not have ND tires and wheels. I'm not sure about the control arms though. Here is what a stock ND looks like:

http://www.fototime.com/F49197AC22600D0/standard.jpg

Front end:

http://www.fototime.com/F56A6C944C0BF76/standard.jpg

Back end:

http://www.fototime.com/899825916FC9524/standard.jpg

Wheel/tire:

http://www.fototime.com/663FB924A35C76A/standard.jpg

In my opinion the ND is a great r/c car. It is not a buggy, but close. It is not a stadium truck, becasue the suspension is not as advanvced. But what it is, is a rip roaring all out speed maniac. It is loads of fun to drive and it is insanely fast! It is also only a single speed. If the NQ two-speed tranny could be adapted to the ND it would be lunatic! :)

[murphy3688]

what do you guys think of starter boxes as opposed to pull starts? what about on board starter systems or hand held starter boxes? thanks

-murphy

[tl_ke_racer]

any0ne want my demon just needs a pullstart has the doubled up shock towers and high torq servo.

[murphy3688]

want??? like for free??? count me in

-murphy

[JISNITRO]

Hey, How much??

[tl_ke_racer]

well no not free but, just throw me a offer i need cash real bad right now.

[nascar3]

I have a demon for sale, numerous hop-ups , about 1/2 gallon trinity monster horsepower thru it. it has
Installed nitro quake 10/50 ring and pinion gears front and rear
Original 15/45 ring and pinion gears
2 nitro demon bodies
1 T-Maxx pro graphic green body
Tmaxx 1inch offsett wheel adapters for all 4 wheels
4 tmaxx shaved tires mounted on satin finish tmaxx rims
original demon tires (mint)
4 axis rims with brand new pro-line crime fighter tires
T-Maxx 2055 steering servo
Nitro quake body mounts
Extra chassis with bellcrank and steering linkage
Extra motor mounts
Extra clutch and spring
Extra air filter with elements
Extra axles, upper and lower control arms
Extra diff cases(2) extra wheel hubs
Extra shock towers(2)
Video and instructions.

Too many toys Email me at cradzik@massed.net for pics and give me a reasonable offer. this thing is mint.

[nascar3]

Forgot to add that it also will come with the factory Futaba 2 channel radio and receiver. Also battery has been moved forward out of the radio box to help out with balancing the weight of the truck. I also removed the servo saver off the steering servo and added a futaba heavy duty servo arm. As the bell crank has a servo saver on it. The truck did not need two. Steering is much more responsive

[RrR]

Any of you all have the stock tires that you want to get rid of?

[badtodabone]

This may be astupid qestuin but what is the wheelbase in inches?

[edmondsm]

hey guys I need all the spare parts that I can get my hands on if you would email me at edmondsmatt@hotmail.com or edmondsm@comcast.net or pm thanks

[AaronBall]

I just ran my Deamon a couple of weeks ago. It tore around my yard pretty well since the grass is low. Its pullstart string pulled out on the last pull that started it so I had to keep it running through the whole tank. It wasn't a problem except for the last little bit where I had to keep it on the driveway so the fuel didn't slosh around. I think I need some tires now... they are all almost bald, which is OK for street driving, but not so good in the dirt/grass. Anyone else have any recent Deamon stories?