View Full Version : Hard decision on which esc to get :-(
jdm3849
03-27-2002, 11:29 PM
I need a new ESC and i want it to have reverse, i would like it to be 85$ usd at the most and to not get hot with a motor down to 15 turns. please do not reccomend the rooster or the futaba MC330CR because those are bad luck esc's to me please tell me the "pro's" and "con's" about the esc thanks
Gutter Ball
03-27-2002, 11:40 PM
If you can still find the Novak Reactor, that's a pretty good ESC. It has reverse, but you can disable it if you race and it can handle down to a 15 turn motor. Cons...can't think of any for this ESC.
maxx_RC
03-28-2002, 12:51 AM
The only other I can think of is the LRP F1 super reverse. It might be thatone or some other but check out the whole series. They are really great. I have two to speak for. No cons.
Casper
03-28-2002, 06:51 PM
Keyence makes some great reversing ESC's but they will be a little more expensive. I have seen the Keyence A-07Rz Reversible ESC for $95.
tadium54
03-28-2002, 07:51 PM
Gutter- the reactor can take down to 12 turns
Gutter Ball
03-28-2002, 08:10 PM
Tadium: Not according to Novak's web site...
jdm3849
03-28-2002, 10:14 PM
oh brother, its 12 i do my research:D
Gutter Ball
03-28-2002, 10:40 PM
LOL...okay, I guess the manufacturer of the ESC has it all wrong on their own site :) They should correct it!!! http://www.teamnovak.com/products/ESC_Specs/revers_spec/reverse_index.htm
TC3Racer
03-28-2002, 10:48 PM
novak and LRP's are great ESC's. another good one is the dynamite power pulse. new it is about 60 bucks and can handle down to a 13 turn motor.
jdm3849
03-28-2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by Gutter Ball
LOL...okay, I guess the manufacturer of the ESC has it all wrong on their own site :) They should correct it!!! http://www.teamnovak.com/products/ESC_Specs/revers_spec/reverse_index.htm
oh boy, do you need to put your reading spec's on? it clearly says 12 turns at 6 cells
Gutter Ball
03-28-2002, 11:04 PM
Well, before you go insulting me about being blind...look again son...the <B>ROOSTER #1850</B> is 12 turns(at 6 cells), the <B>REACTOR #1810</B> is 15 turns(at 6 cells)...geez, try to help someone and they go and insult you. Are we not looking at the same chart?? Is the Reactor not located between the Super Rooster and the Rooster? Does it not say "No Limit single/dual motors in series);15 turns (dual motors in parallel) 12 turns (at 6 cells)" for the Super Rooster and "15 turns (at 6 cells)" for the Reactor??? Maybe my browser is displaying it all wrong???
jdm3849
03-28-2002, 11:11 PM
im not saying your blind im saying your impared lol
btw. read i am right no doubt about it
Gutter Ball
03-28-2002, 11:14 PM
Someone else go check that link...we can't be seeing 2 different charts...
http://www.teamnovak.com/products/ESC_Specs/revers_spec/reverse_index.htm
If everybody is saying 12 turns...Novak must have it wrong on their site.
Chisel
03-28-2002, 11:51 PM
well I looked at Novaks website and unless i'm totally wasted, I could swear it says the Reactor will take 12 turns with 6 cells!!:confused: :confused: :confused: :D
Chisel
03-29-2002, 12:00 AM
Gutter, you better get some glasses. I don't know how you are reading that chart but you should read it top to bottom as in the specs for each esc are directly under the name. Doesn't really matter, you guys should just agree to disagree, and call it quits.
Gutter Ball
03-29-2002, 12:03 AM
Okay, I thought maybe I was going crazy or this 19' monitor was playing tricks on me so I had my friend (who does not know anything about RC) go check that link and he sees the same thing I do. The Reactor Reversable is listed as $173.00, the case size is 1.63 x 1.42 x 0.69, the resistence is 0.0040, it says 15 turns(at 6 cells) and the drive/brake frequency is 1000. I just don't want to give/have any wrong information here...
LOL, I have 20/20 vision and I know what I'm seeing and here's what I'm seeing:
jdm3849
03-29-2002, 12:06 AM
Maybe your computers jacked? oh well the rooster (which is right next to it) has a 15 turn limit any ways what esc should i get for about 80$?
Pooder
03-29-2002, 12:11 AM
Get a hold of yourself Gutter!
Gutter Ball
03-29-2002, 12:41 AM
Okay, you guys are right! It is 12 turns!! It didn't make sense why me and two other people were seeing 15 turns as the limit though so I did some checking. It does say the Reactor can handle LOWER turns that the Rooster, so why would the site list it differently?? I did a View-->Page Source to see the HTML code and found an error in their code!! They did another "/font" instead of a "/TD" after the info on the Super Rooster's motor limit, so the Reactor's "12 turns(at 6 cells)" shows up as part of the Super Rooster's motor limit instead of the Reactor's and the Rooster's "15 turns (at 6 cells)" shows up as the Reactor's. Such a simple mistake, such a major headache!! So you guys are right, and I'm not going blind or crazy..
****D'OH again. It's only an Error in NETSCAPE (which we all used to check the page). It shows up properly in Internet Explorer(which I'm sure you all used).****
Anyway, I still recommend the Reactor :p
Chisel
03-29-2002, 12:45 AM
Yep, I'm on IE 6 so... Oh well like I said, at least now we know you aren't crazy, just your computer is crazy!!!!:p
Gutter Ball
03-29-2002, 12:53 AM
:D Aaaaah, technology! <B>Supposed</B> to make things easier. Hmm....I'd better email them about that tag error.
spenzalii
03-29-2002, 12:00 PM
Personally, I run a MC3300 with my 12 turn P94 with no problem. The LRP Super and Pro are higher current, but I don't like the reverse feature on them. There is little deadband between brake and reverse, which can cause you to spin. Plus, they are somewhat on the chunky side. Try one of the Quantum series reversable esc's. You may find one at a decent price if you look hard enough
Gutter Ball
03-29-2002, 02:13 PM
I send Novak an email about their little error. They promptly corrected it (shows up right now on Netscape) and offered to send me a free t-shirt. :)
jdm3849
03-29-2002, 05:32 PM
ok, i had the futaba 330 and was running it with a 17 turn and it started on fire for the second time and i sent it in but the post office lost it and i got a note in the mail saying they just got it, hope it works better this time sorry gutter for putting you thru all that trouble
Gutter Ball
03-29-2002, 06:29 PM
JDM: No trouble at all :) Like I said, I just didn't want to give or have any incorrect information. You saw what you saw, and I saw what I saw! What you saw was right, what I saw was wrong...so if you're thinking I'm mad or something, I'm not at all...we're cool!! Besides, if it weren't for you asking, they might never have caught the error! Good luck with your speedo!!
spenzalii
03-30-2002, 01:05 AM
damn jd, what kind of wild gearing did you have to set the esc on fire? I've had mine close to a year with no problems. You really can't beat the features for the price, especially of you're not running a really hot motor. You sure it wasn't a 2200? It only goes down to 20 turn, which would make some sense. Then again, to each his own
maxx_RC
03-30-2002, 01:33 AM
I have a 330 and im running a 14 turn. maybe yours was defective or something. LOL
Racerze
03-30-2002, 01:54 AM
My 330 is defective. It wont reverse properly. When I have it set on Brake, it doesnt break well (probably because of no Schottky Diode). And when I have it in reverse mode, it'll only reverse when it's buzzing, and it doesnt buzz very often. I'd say i get reverse abut 1 outta 10 times.
jdm3849
03-30-2002, 02:13 PM
i t WAS a 330, it has the REAL heat sinks instead of the plastic things i had 19/88 in my st, i ran it for about five feet and flames erupted i was soo scared i have had 2 of them and the first melted with no flames and the second started on fire ill probobly be scared to use it in my new pede
XXX/TC3 Racer
03-30-2002, 02:57 PM
I don't know if I am late or not so here goes...
I was going to get the Novak super rooster. It has polar-drive technology, reverse disable, and even has brake light-circuitry. It even handles two motors!. I was going to get this because I planned on getting a touring car, but I have put that on hold. Now, I will be getting the LRP F1 Pro. It has 2500Hz operation and no motor limit. Have 2-stage protection and are backed by Associated Electronics in the U.S.
I would say go for the LRP. I have driven with it, raced with it, and had friends whom owned it. No complaints as of yet.
Tower hobbies prices:
Novak Super rooster-$119.99
LRP F1 Pro-$99.99
If I where you, I would look at tower hoobies, and read the description on all the possible outcomes. I don't know what your porpose is,so only you will know what is best for your car. The two I had above is the top-of-the-line ESC's to get. There are cheaper outcomes out there, and tower has most of the best. Look into the buy forum often, because every once in a while, there will be a good deal to shoot for. I hope this will lead you in the right direction. :)
Mason Copeland
03-30-2002, 02:59 PM
The XTM esc has done me good. It can handle down to 15t motors, and it has many great features. The only ferature I missed a current limiter.
jdm3849
03-30-2002, 03:02 PM
ya you are late xxx, but you might help someone else out? cause the post office lost my esc and thats why i needed a new one but they just found it the other day:)
XXX/TC3 Racer
03-30-2002, 03:36 PM
well that just sucks! I thought I was helping out here. Oh well...