Kyosho Superten GP's and FW-04

[tamiyajoe]

how is this car? speed (approx)? is ti the same size as a super nitro? is it a pivot ball suspension?

the only thing i dont like, are the expensive parts (2spd=150 bucks)

[Mika]

Thanks Dan. I did the same a while except my Supers plus the Micro that is basically run by my son.. don't sell it :D

Yeah, pretty quiet

[Mika]

Originally posted by tamiyajoe
how is this car? speed (approx)? is ti the same size as a super nitro? is it a pivot ball suspension?
the only thing i dont like, are the expensive parts (2spd=150 bucks)

faster with a good engine :D and has no belts. Yes, this is Super size nitro car (1/9), wheel base 280mm

About the suspension, see http://www.kyosho.co.jp/rc_model/touring_rally/superten/fw04/fw04-e.html

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/rc_model/touring_rally/superten/fw04/3.gif

prices for this car are definitely high but something unique

[monyet fangkeh]

i got a superten gp. when im doing a high speed turn to the left, the left front wheel started to lift of the ground and started to spin doing donut. but nothing happen when im doing high speed turn to the right? whats wrong with my car? i have check all my suspension and there is nothing wrong with it.

[Dan H]

tamiyajoe, theres a cheaper version 2 speed out for around $50. Yes, parts are expensive but the car is very strong. I have yet to break any other parts other then bending one front hinge pin.

monyet, try checking if the chassis is tweaked or if the arms move up and down freely. Sometimes there can be a bent hinge pin that'll cause this kind of problem.

[superspeed]

there is a new kit of superten fw04, it's a castrol nsx which comes with 2 speed and one optional part. And it's only about $50 higher than other fw04s. This is definitely a good choice. Kyosho's aftermarket parts are expensive, even the replacement parts are high but they're made tough. keep in mind, it's distributed by Great Plane who offers hobby services for products by listed manufactures.

I like the superten fw04 very much, kyosho offered a kit w/ os four stroke engine once, that was an awesome car. Cost like 600 to $700 though.

[Mika]

Exactly!

The new and less expensive 2-speed which ships with the new FW04 kit is nice, but not as good as the original 2-speed, FZW56, however. You can order them both from Tower, for example.

[Mika]

Another thing:

Can anybody give advise how to do a conversion from FS-26S-C to FS-30 (airplane) for car use ? I mean what parts should I inter-change.

The FS-30 gives 20% more power compared to FS-26 engine. I think it would make a difference in FW04, too.

[Mika]

Seems that Cross has survived the fire according to the news page http://www.rc-cross.com/page/news.html (I translated it with the Altavista BabelFish) ?

Anyone has tried or seen the FW04 Centax clutch from them ?
http://www.rc-cross.com/Media/AW-500GP.gif

Limp3, how did you order from them ? Via email ?

[Mika]

Seems also that I'm alone here .. Well, just wanted you guys to know that I finally was able to start running in my RX after all the snow .. what an awesome engine it is .. it really got my FW04 flying. I was lucky to have the steel diffs (which I switched from the Thumper Super to this) - I don't think the alum stock ones would have survived. So if you ever think about upgrading your super, this engine is the beast to choose!! Incredible speed.

Unfortunately it makes my FS Super look ridicuosly slow and I cannot compete them against each other anymore.. maybe I should convert it, too.

[monyet fangkeh]

does any1 here still have the old s10 manual here??? where can i find it on the net??? could you give me some link for that.

this is not my car but my car is exactly look like this ( except it more messy and dirtier :p )
http://www.nitroreview.com/reviewimages/197/andrew4.JPG

[fc3sdriver]

I have a super 10 that I bought off e-bay from japan and it came with alot of cool stuff. does anyone know if the versions they sold in japan are any different from the U.S. also. it was finally nice enough and we had are first race this last weekend. it was the first time i really pushed the car, and I was all over the place. can anyone give me suggestions on how to set my car up. we race on a pretty tight course. lots of tight turns with decent straights. I was losing traction when accelating and it was pushing through the corners. I am the only one in my area that runs a kyosho, every one else runs a super nitro, so know one knows anything about thses cars. any help would be appreciated thanks

[Dan H]

Hi, I just noticed your name. Do you drive an RX7? I have an FC also... a real one. ;)

[fc3sdriver]

yeah I do drive an rx-7. '88' turbo to be exact. but right now it's a non driver because I spun a bearing in the engine the other day so I have to get it rebuilt. I am trying to buy a ***. rx-7 turbo front clip from a guy here local and just swap everything over.

[PCC]

http://www.kyosho.co.jp/events/hobyshow/2003shizuoka/k_31581.jpg
FW-05R?

[Mika]

cool, shaft driven V-One :D maybe ..

[Dan H]

fc3sdriver, lets chat sometime. Here's my email addy dan_ho_02@hotmail.com

Hmm....wonder how that shaft driven V1R handles like...

[Dan H]

Found some more pics. Looks like its no 1/10th! Wondering about those tires though...

http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/urltrurl?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage3.nifty.com%2Fjoybox%2Fsh s2003_index.html

Click on Kyosho.

[Dan H]

Oops! I'm wrong, its not a Super car, still 1/10th. Thanks for the update Syde!

[Tjappie]

He guys, just found a FW-04 laying around in my garage! Just kiddin', this is my first rc car but i only drove it 3-4 times then broke some parts and never played with it again. Silly me:p
Now, i need some parts to replace so i have a couple of questions:

What tires and wheels have good grip, look great and don't cost a fortune?
What shock oil and springs give great handling? i'm using stock shocks.
What diff. oil?
HPI sells body's that fit, right? Wich one gives good aerodynamics?
What O.S. engine should i buy?

also, what parts are a MUST HAVE for this car? I already have front universals, 2-speed( not the special one), foam bumper, front and rear stabilizers ( What colour should i use?).

Wow, that's a lot of questions!!:cool:

[IssyCamaroMan]

Alright guys, here's the deal.

I have a Kyosho PureTen GP Spider MKII.

I blew my rod....shredded the piston and cylinder. I used all the parts in a science project....and they were thrown away afterwards. (this was a year and a half ago). That includes the clutch and flywheel.


Okay, I have every part for the car except a motor, muffler, clutch, or flywheel.

I've found all the parts I need to get it running again, including the special mounts to use a standard engine.

My question is, what motors would work on my car? Would a 12.CV work? what about 15?

Thanks!

[Mika]

Originally posted by Tjappie
Now, i need some parts to replace so i have a couple of questions:
What tires and wheels have good grip, look great and don't cost a fortune?
What shock oil and springs give great handling? i'm using stock shocks.
What diff. oil?
HPI sells body's that fit, right? Wich one gives good aerodynamics?
What O.S. engine should i buy?
also, what parts are a MUST HAVE for this car? I already have front universals, 2-speed( not the special one), foam bumper, front and rear stabilizers ( What colour should i use?).


Hi, take a look at my site, there's some info http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne
To your questions:
Kyosho Radials are great for bashing
Shock oil, try wt800 for example from Kyosho
Diff oil: wt40000 i front, wt10000 at rear, but you need to seal your diffs with silicone sealant yourself (easy)
HPI Murcielago is definitely nice and gives good handling, BMW is also good because of so little body drag
You have many OS engine options, CV/LD .15 is good but not the fastest although pretty much direct fit with less expensive 2-speed, good for driving on the track. RX is awesome - even maybe too fast for tracks - and requires more parts to fit. CV-R might also be a good option since it's faster than CV and also direct fit like CV, but no 2-year warranty(!).
Option parts:
Like you said, 2-speed,front universals, bumper, fuel filter, stabilizers are propably the best hop-ups. Then, carbon deck, cooling fan and possibly (expensive) teflon shocks, hard alu chassis and steel diffs later on.

[Sydewynder]

Originally posted by Dan H
Oops! I'm wrong, its not a Super car, still 1/10th. Thanks for the update Syde!

Anytime Dan.

How's your 4 stroke doing? Mine's just sitting here.

[Tjappie]

thanks for the info, what kinda gearing you guys suggest ?( 2-speed and a .15 O.S.)

[Tjappie]

thanks for the info, what kinda gearing you guys suggest ?( 2-speed and a .15 O.S.)

[Dan H]

Originally posted by Sydewynder
Anytime Dan.

How's your 4 stroke doing? Mine's just sitting here.

Mines is sitting also. Really need to get back into racing...

[Tjappie]

He Mika, is it okay if i try the same setup as you use, cause i just order a .15RX engine:cool: what spur and pinion gears u use?
You're cars look awesome:D

[Mika]

Thanks Tjappie!

I feel fine with the "default" gearing of FZW56 2-speed and the RX engine. It accelerates nicely and the top speed is awesome (if more I could not handle it). The default is
15/19 and 41/37 = 56 teeth

[Tjappie]

Thanks man, now i just have to wait for the parts to arrive, wich usually takes 2-4 weeks, Bad Service Kyosho:mad:

[Mika]

Anyone has experience on O.S. 15 LD (Laid Down) engine ?

I wonder does it fit to FW04. I know FW04 was once sold with 12 LD, which OS does not manufacture anymore (see their japanese site)

Is the only way to get it installed to use the narrow (front) wheel in all for corners? .. or can I fit the broader rear tires, too.

Any help appreciated.

(I know this engine is older and has less power, but I already have the RX in my other FW04, so this is more like an experimental thing..)

thanks
-Mika

[Mika]

regarding the previous post, has anyone switched high performance engine parts (let's say .15 CV-R) into a medium performance engine (like .15 LD) ? Can you do that for better performance ?

That might include piston+sleeve and the crankshaft

[hdcchrome]

Has anyone tried the OS 40 four stroke (FS-40S-C & FS-40S-CX)?

If so, what mods did you make and parts used?

EMAIL ME PLEASE (hdcchrome@yahoo.com)

[Mika]

I know Nolan Farmer has.. see previous posts in this thread. The parts you need is at least the Kyosho 4-cycle fitting kit for the .40 engine. Maybe some other parts as well, because it's not a "direct fit" as the .26 engine.

Anyone has answers / ideas to my questions ? :(

[hdcchrome]

Thanks Mika.

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

I have three FW-04's. One I with the 15RX like yours, one with the .26 four stroke and the other with the 15LD engine. Do you need the LD?? I have two new in box?

Cya,
www.landjump.NET

[Dan H]

2 new in box? Lucky you... :eek:

Tried getting myself a .15LD a while back when they were clearing them out for $50-60 but I was too late.

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
Mika,

I have three FW-04's. One I with the 15RX like yours, one with the .26 four stroke and the other with the 15LD engine. Do you need the LD?? I have two new in box?

Cya,
www.landjump.NET

Cool! And thanks for your reply. The RX is awesome, right ?!

First, did the LD fit into the FW04 with wide rear tires without modifications? - Or do you have the use narrow tires in all four corners to get it fit. All info is appreciated :-)
(15LD is bigger than 12LD isn't it)

Second, I'd like to have it (buy it), but I'm quite far from the U.S. here in Finland so doing the business is a bit difficult. What do you think?

BTW, do you or anyone know if you can take inner parts from 15CV-R (piston and sleeve etc) and put them into the 15LD in hope for better performance?

[Mika]

Originally posted by Dan H
2 new in box? Lucky you... :eek:

Tried getting myself a .15LD a while back when they were clearing them out for $50-60 but I was too late.

OS still makes them (the 15 size), but of course the price is higher

[Tjappie]

He Mika, i have some more questions for you:
Do you use the Hi-ratio diffs. on your superten with RX?

Is the RX engine available with pull-start or do i need a starterbox?

What are the part numbers for the muffler and manifold u use with it?

bye, Tjap

[Mika]

Originally posted by Tjappie
He Mika, i have some more questions for you:
Do you use the Hi-ratio diffs. on your superten with RX?

Is the RX engine available with pull-start or do i need a starterbox?

What are the part numbers for the muffler and manifold u use with it?

bye, Tjap

Hi Tjap, Yes I do - they're great with RX, no wear and fast (but expensive)
You need a starterbox, no pull start for this engine.
I use the ones that Tower suggests:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZ31&P=7
and for the 2-speed I use
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVSEARCH=39524&FVPROFIL=++
Thanks,
Mika

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

Just port and polish the LD engine and you will be set. I paid full Tower Hobbie price when I bought mine, can't remember how much, but I can look them up.

The LD came in four types:

12 or 15 with or without pull start.

The reason I have two new in box, is because I never mounted one in the car yet. I have several FW-04 cars still new in box :)

Nothing will beat the power of the BIG block 15RX, but the car is supposed to be more stable with the LD which is why I wanted to try one.

OS and Kyosho are owned by the same Mother company, which is why special engine designes are made for their cars.

Email me direct for anything else you want to discuss. Later.

hdcchrome@yahoo.com

[hdcchrome]

If you are looking for engines, I have four NEW IN BOX I am putting up for sale this week.

NOVArossi TOP (T12), modified by Ron Paris, rear exhaust, slide carb, SG shaft.

Trinity Picco 12XP and a 15 RC SPEED, both standard shaft, rear exhaust, slide carb.

Cya,
HDCchrome.

Also, never shipped to Finland.......but I could :)

[Mika]

Ok, thanks!

I already ordered the LD couple of weeks ago from a local distributor, so when it comes let's see in practise how it fits (as you still have yours uninstalled ?). I'm just worried that I need to use the narrower rear tires to get it fit, although it may not not be that big deal.

It takes six weeks to get the engine from OS Japan to here (Tower would be faster, but they don't carry it anymore).

I didn't know that OS and Kyosho belong to the same mother company, pretty interesting.

[Mika]

Originally posted by Mika
Hi Tjap, Yes I do - they're great with RX, no wear and fast (but expensive)
You need a starterbox, no pull start for this engine.
I use the ones that Tower suggests:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZ31&P=7
and for the 2-speed I use
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVSEARCH=39524&FVPROFIL=++
Thanks,
Mika

Forgot to mention, that I needed to use silicone sealant in addition in order to seal the manifold into the engine (the gap between). Without sealant there was a small air leak and oil spilling around when driving at the top speed. The manifold is not a tight fit even though how hard spring you use.

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Tjappie
He Mika, i have some more questions for you:
Do you use the Hi-ratio diffs. on your superten with RX?

Is the RX engine available with pull-start or do i need a starterbox?

What are the part numbers for the muffler and manifold u use with it?

bye, Tjap

I have never seen a pull start for the RX, but I could be wrong. Do you want one???? Check Ebay, there was one on there the other day.

OS .15 RX
Item # 3135114238

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Mika
Ok, thanks!

I already ordered the LD couple of weeks ago from a local distributor, so when it comes let's see in practise how it fits (as you still have yours uninstalled ?). I'm just worried that I need to use the narrower rear tires to get it fit, although it may not not be that big deal.

It takes six weeks to get the engine from OS Japan to here (Tower would be faster, but they don't carry it anymore).

I didn't know that OS and Kyosho belong to the same mother company, pretty interesting.

Actually Hobbico is the MOTHER of them all, if you can believe it. They own both companies now and Great Plains, Tower Hobbies, are in there somewhere too :0

How much did you pay for the LD engine? Did you find a .15??? I found two more .12 LD on Ebay

[Mika]

Allright!
Well, I'll pay around 200-220 euros when I get it, that's about the same in $

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
I have never seen a pull start for the RX, but I could be wrong. Do you want one???? Check Ebay, there was one on there the other day.

OS .15 RX
Item # 3135114238

It's a rear exhaust engine so you cannot have a pullstart

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Mika
Allright!
Well, I'll pay around 200-220 euros when I get it, that's about the same in $

Oh my...........I hope that is a .15:(

200.00 EUR = 229.723 USD
1 EUR = 1.14862 USD 1 USD = 0.870612 EUR

[Mika]

It could be more, although I remember it should be around that. Btw, the LD is cheaper than LDX ($50 or so). Let's see when I get it, should arrive within few weeks

[hdcchrome]

.15 or .12 ???

[Mika]

.15 - definitely

That's why asked should it fit

[Tjappie]

the gs-21 engine on my Madforce is a rear-exhaust engine with pullstart!
i just got some parts i orderd, my LHS told me that they arrived 4 days later!! stil need to wait for the other parts, and i just made a crazy jump with my Madforce and broke some parts ( and i already ordered more than a 1000 bucks in parts:cool: )

But hey, it's all worth it, right?:D

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Tjappie
the gs-21 engine on my Madforce is a rear-exhaust engine with pullstart!
i just got some parts i orderd, my LHS told me that they arrived 4 days later!! stil need to wait for the other parts, and i just made a crazy jump with my Madforce and broke some parts ( and i already ordered more than a 1000 bucks in parts:cool: )

But hey, it's all worth it, right?:D

Are you in the wrong thread???? This is for the Superten and FW-04 :rolleyes:

[Tjappie]

i know, butjust wanted to say that the stuff about the engine, cause you guys where talking about rear exhaust non-pullstart. And i ordered more parts for my FW-04 then my Madforce:
Hiratio diffs
hard chassis
carbon upperdeck
.15rx
murcielago(?) body
silver 18-spoke wheels
this baby is gonna be sweet!

[Mika]

Originally posted by Tjappie
i know, butjust wanted to say that the stuff about the engine, cause you guys where talking about rear exhaust non-pullstart. And i ordered more parts for my FW-04 then my Madforce:
Hiratio diffs
hard chassis
carbon upperdeck
.15rx
murcielago(?) body
silver 18-spoke wheels
this baby is gonna be sweet!

Soudns good!

Personally I haven't thought about it too much and didn't realize that you can actually have a rear exhaust engine with a pull start .. perhaps I was at an impression that you cannot. Thanks for clarifying this Tjappie. (Anyway, the RX is only available without a pullstart as far as I know.)
Thanks,
Mika

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Tjappie
i know, butjust wanted to say that the stuff about the engine, cause you guys where talking about rear exhaust non-pullstart. And i ordered more parts for my FW-04 then my Madforce:
Hiratio diffs
hard chassis
carbon upperdeck
.15rx
murcielago(?) body
silver 18-spoke wheels
this baby is gonna be sweet!

Cool, where did you find these parts you listed? I assume they are all for the FW-04? Do you have a contact and pictures?

What engine did you find that is rear exhaust with pull start http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/smiley-faces62.gif

[Mika]

Originally posted by Mika
Hi Tjap, Yes I do - they're great with RX, no wear and fast (but expensive)
You need a starterbox, no pull start for this engine.
I use the ones that Tower suggests:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXBZ31&P=7
and for the 2-speed I use
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVSEARCH=39524&FVPROFIL=++
Thanks,
Mika
from Tower at least

[Tjappie]

Hdcchrome: i didn't find them, i just looked on Tower ( great site for checking out parts) and yes, they are all for the FW-04. I take pics when the car is build, okay?
The engine with rear exhaust/pullstart is the stockengine from the Madforce, the Kyosho GS-21R engine.

Mika: for some strange reason i ordered this flywheel: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0095p?FVSEARCH=fzw62&FVPROFIL=++ Do you think it will work with the RX? I also would like to know what silicone sealant is, cause i'm Dutch and can,t figure it out. Maybe some names or brands will help.

[Mika]

Ok Tjappie, the thing is that the flywheel you ordered is for the standard (threaded) shaft, not for the pilotshaft RX has. When you get the stuff, I would return the flywheel (of course you can check if it fits but I doubt) and meanwhile order the one I advised. It's for the pilot shaft.

by the way, I ordered once all these listed parts above from Tower and got them.. the only one they don't have is the wide silver rear wheel, but I use the gun metal 6 spoke:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/002.jpg

I must be crazy but I ordered this italian high performance engine below, 1.55 BHP, for my other Super with the a black Murcielago body and silver wheels.. the engine must be italian, too, like the body, right ;) !!

http://www2.gpmd.com/image/t/trig9301.jpg

Nova Rossi .12 Turbo
It's lightweight, 215gr, and hopefully gives pretty low CG. I don't know what I'm going to do with the LD when it arrives, but propably some testing only and even use it, when my son wants to drive the car (soon 9 year old) - both RX and this new power plant are too much for him definitely

[Mika]

Forgot this:

The silicone selant is sthe stuff for sealing basically anything that you can buy from automotive stores or gas stations etc. It handles high temperatures, too, and I use for sealing the diffs as well as sealing the header to the engine to avoid air and oil leaks. Good stuff.

More on the Nova Rossi: Don't worry Tjappie the O.S. RX has so much power that it makes the Super really fly :D it's just gonna be interesting how this "little" devil behaves compared to the big block RX.

Remember to adjust your toe-in for rear and toe-out for front plus some negative camber on all four corners. My suspension is pretty low (as low as it goes) and soft, although the spring itself are hard (harder than stock) since the engine is pretty heavy. I also use teflon shocks with 800 wt oil and universals both front and rear.

[Mika]

My other FW04 to which I'm gonna isnstall the Nova.
I finished it this morning; shots are poor quality (DV camera). Also, the windows are little bit too tinted, spray in bad shape. But otherwise pretty nice, don't you think ;)

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/004.jpg

other shots
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/005.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/006.jpg

[Mika]

Hi, added a couple of shots taken outdoors.

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/012.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/008.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/009.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/010.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/011.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/lambo_black/013.jpg

sorry for big size!

[Tjappie]

Thanks Mika, now my Lamborghini is gonna be black to. If i order the Nova they will be twins:)

[Mika]

Cool. I was driving yesterday with the RX, it's a beast :D

Can't wait for the Nova. It has less troque but smaller in size and more top-end so let's see how the Super will fly.. I think I need to play with gearing to get it going..

[Dan H]

Hey, whats up guys!

Long time since I started up my FW04. At least over 6 months. Anyways, thinking of getting something new for it. New body? Maybe a new engine? :D

[Mika]

Hi Dan, I just installed this baby.. it's only .12 but has nice 1.55 HP

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/nova/3.jpg

[Dan H]

Nice, let us know how it compares to the RX!

[craigb]

I am piecing together a super 10 4 stroke. I picked up the 4 stroke conversion kit with 2 speed clutch bell etc. The clutch bearings or bushings (I hope not) are not included and no part number is mentioned. I have no manual and the Kyosho and Tower websites do not offer any help.Does anyone know the size of these bearings?

Any help is appreciated.

Peace


:D

[Mika]

Originally posted by Dan H
Nice, let us know how it compares to the RX!

Thanks Dan, after few tanks I would say it compares well, I mean, it seems as fast. It may even accelerate a bit better since it's more lightweight but I'm not quite sure yet. Needs more tuning still, but it's been exceptionally hot here last three weeks, so it's been quite difficult (to bear the heat and all).

It's has now a lighter flywheel, fzw62, which is really lightweight and small in size. Even better acceleration.

So, as I said I need to do more testing, but I'm pretty excited. The car looks really good and it behaves really nicely on track. A good choice for your Super (hey no wonder - it costs almost twice the RX) ! I can give you a list of option parts in case you consider this one for your car, including OS header, Kyosho mounts and flywheel and clutch.

[Mika]

Okay guys, after some more testing I could say the Nova is bit more faster, maybe not the top speed which is roughly the same but it accelerates better and is really easier to drive with lower CG and weight.. I could say it's more reactive, too, and there's no side roll at all.

I sold the car with the RX since I don't have enough time for two cars thus cannot run them head to head.

My guess is that the speed reaches around 80 mph, but I have not really clocked it.

[Calistris]

hi iam Damian gohuyoadgouan (might eb alittle hard to say)i live in an far island called NEW ZEALAND!! any way i was thinking is the Ahlpha GP3 any good? it comes with a GX.15 engine in it with radio gear and is 520(NZD) is that good? and how old is it really?



THNXS

[Mika]

Hi, it might be okay but it's not a race car like FW04 to my opinion, more like a starter kit. You might post your question to a proper Kyosho thread instead of this one .. it's a bit quiet here, so don't expect any answers really ..

thanks,
Mika

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Mika
Hi, it might be okay but it's not a race car like FW04 to my opinion, more like a starter kit. You might post your question to a proper Kyosho thread instead of this one .. it's a bit quiet here, so don't expect any answers really ..

thanks,
Mika

Mika,

Have you heard about the FW05???

[RCH89]

Hi;

I have a couple of questions about the 4 strokes..... Hope someone can answer them. I have a HPI RS4 3 SS kit, would the FS26 fit in that car? Also, does anyone know if the FS 30 crankcase would replace the 26C's? Tower has discontinued selling the 26C crankcase, and I might need one.......

[RCH89]

Dont mean to be rude or anything, but it seems like everyone is pulling the FS's out of their cars and putting in 2 strokes. Anyone want to part with their FS26?......

Thanks
RCH

[trickedoutGT]

Hey everyone, I was wondering if I could put a .21 in my Super Ten? I have a Novarossi .21 RX21 Race Paris Mod laying around. Can the Super Ten handle the power? Thanks

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by RCH89
Dont mean to be rude or anything, but it seems like everyone is pulling the FS's out of their cars and putting in 2 strokes. Anyone want to part with their FS26?......

Thanks
RCH


Are you looking for NEW OR USED. Also, you may want to consider the expensive clutch setup required for a FOUR STROKE.

Here is a picture of the clutch kit for the FW-04. $170 bucks :)

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by trickedoutGT
Hey everyone, I was wondering if I could put a .21 in my Super Ten? I have a Novarossi .21 RX21 Race Paris Mod laying around. Can the Super Ten handle the power? Thanks

Yes, you can and YES it will handle it. NOT many cars are built as well and as stong as the FW-04/Super10 series


I recommend upgrading the diff gears to STEEL $90 bucks at TOWER

[trickedoutGT]

hdchrome, Thanks! Can it handle the power in stock form though? I don't really want to spend a lot on this car. Also what pipe do you recommend for rear exhaust engines like the Novarossi .21? I also have a Picco .21 pipe here but the pressure nipple is upside down when I mount it on the car. Will that affect performance? Thanks again.:D

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by trickedoutGT
hdchrome, Thanks! Can it handle the power in stock form though? I don't really want to spend a lot on this car. Also what pipe do you recommend for rear exhaust engines like the Novarossi .21? I also have a Picco .21 pipe here but the pressure nipple is upside down when I mount it on the car. Will that affect performance? Thanks again.:D


Check your diffs for slop (clean and repack if well used), everthhing should be OK.

Novo Rossi has many engine product lines:
RB Concept
REX
TOP
and two more I think...

Anyway, TUNED pipes and ONE PIECE pipes are the best in my opinion. I prefer RB CONCEPTS polished ONE PIECE pipes.

Send me a picture of what you are doing....I have never seen a nipple on the bottom. It will be too close to the ground and pressure line may come off while running.

[trickedoutGT]

What I mean is that im using a pipe made for the transverse mounted engines (made for belt driven cars).

[hdcchrome]

Not sure about that....need to see pictures

Send PIX HERE (hdcchrome@yahoo.com)

[trickedoutGT]

Sent:)

[RCH89]

hdcchrome,

I guess I am looking for a used engine. I really dont want to spend the full purchase price on this engine, if it might not fit in my car.

If anyones got any just sittin around, let me know......

[hdcchrome]

Sure, anytime.

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
Mika,

Have you heard about the FW05???

Sorry for the late reply - for some reason I haven't got email notifications that someone is actually reading this thread ;-)

I guess I know as much as you about this kit, it's a shaft driven V-One 1/10, not super size. Interesting though, but the V-One-RR Evo seems even cooler..of course shaft can bear more abuse and rocks etc

[Mika]

Originally posted by RCH89
Dont mean to be rude or anything, but it seems like everyone is pulling the FS's out of their cars and putting in 2 strokes. Anyone want to part with their FS26?......

Thanks
RCH

Quite true. You would expect OS had come out with powerful 4-strokes by know, but not. Maybe there's not enough market for those :-(

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
Yes, you can and YES it will handle it. NOT many cars are built as well and as stong as the FW-04/Super10 series


I recommend upgrading the diff gears to STEEL $90 bucks at TOWER

I would have answered the same - yes, it can definitely handle the power! But, with heavier engine I can't say how well it will handle on track, but for speed runs it's fine. Not sure about the mounting size of your .21, but there's plenty of room, although fitting BigBlock O.S. RX took all of it. Besides, I think you need a bigger clutch bell and different gearing.

[jjnasution]

Does anybody knows if we can somehow fit foam tires to FW04?

Thanks

[Mika]

Originally posted by jjnasution
Does anybody knows if we can somehow fit foam tires to FW04?

Thanks

Hey, that's a really good question - I've been wondering the same, but haven't found a solution. What about Fantom tires, are those too big? Fantom has nice tire "holders" with clips, I wonder if you could install those to FW04..

Any other (cheaper) options??

[hdcchrome]

Stick to RJ Rides!!!!!

[RCH89]

Originally posted by RCH89
Dont mean to be rude or anything, but it seems like everyone is pulling the FS's out of their cars and putting in 2 strokes. Anyone want to part with their FS26?......

Thanks
RCH

Does no one have a single engine out there to offer?
aw shucks!

oh well

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
Stick to RJ Rides!!!!!


They provide foams that fit to FW04 rims? Need to check that out.

RCH, just sold my two FS engines with fitting kits and all..

[Mika]

I checked the RJ Rides, but I couldn't find any Super size foams.. all I could find are the ones at http://rc4less.safeshopper.com/2/160.htm?598 but these are for HPI Super and there's no proof I could fit these into the FW04 - even if I changed the outdrives to the ones from previous super (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV521&P=7) or to the dogbones from HPI.

In case anyone knows, please give advise. Thanks,
-Mika

[Mika]

Hi guys again,

I was racing on local track whole weekend. Instead of the NovaRossi RS12T5 engine I ran the car with O.S. 15LD on, which I finally got from Japan.

I was really suprised how good this setup was to drive! It was so good that the car really felt that it was originally designed using this engine.. very balanced and good handling.

Even though the engine is "slow" compared to modern engines (LD is from -99 or so) I could clock very fast laptimes because of the improved handling. I could use a lot of throttle and car would still handle nicely.

And this engine is by no means slow, but of course it doesn't have the same power as the Nova for example.

In overall I'm very, very happy. I was much faster on the track than the guy with O.S. RX on his Super, for example. I think this is the ultimate track setup (at least for now); when I'm really ready for more power on the track, I'll switch to the Nova.

The only thing I now long for are the foam tires!

[trickedoutGT]

Cool! :cool:

I have a question, will the HPI Toyota GT-1 fit? Thanks

[Mika]

Nope, at least not directly. HPI GT-1 is 300mm wb (wheel base) while FW04 is 280mm. Try other HPI 280mm Super Size bodies instead. I'm experimenting with the BMW LMR V12 as soon as I get it. Not quite sure if it fits, yet.
-Mika

[trickedoutGT]

Please let me know if the BMW LMR fits. I wonder if you'll need to get some new front mounts or something. I want to get a Kyosho body but those are so expensive!:eek:

[Dan H]

Whats up Domo. :D I've had the LMR on my FW04 and it fits but you have to cut it out kind of weird for the engine. (Ran a 4 stroke on mines though with cooling fan.) Fuel tank cutout shouldn't be a problem though. Oh, can't really use the foam bumper either. Otherwise, the body handled pretty good.

[trickedoutGT]

Heh how'd you know Dan?:D

Will I have to make mods to the front body mounts? Like make it shorter or do I have to buy new mounts?

[Mika]

I've had the LMR on my FW04 and it fits but you have to cut it out kind of weird for the engine. (Ran a 4 stroke on mines though with cooling fan.) Fuel tank cutout shouldn't be a problem though.

Thanks Dan, good info. I have currently the O.S. 15 LD (without the fan) which sits actually lower than the tank (!) so I suspect it should be okay.

The LD is really good track, I might even recommend that, but it's relatively expensive (I paid around 215 euros, it's about the same in us dollars) and hard to get (I got it from OS Japan).
Along with the low profile LMR body I think it will be a killer on track :D (The Nova is for great for drag racing and parking lot racing)

What I need is foams now .. any tips on those, guys?! Someone advised to cut 1/8 rear foams in half and install those to all four corners - sounds difficult..

[Mika]

Originally posted by trickedoutGT
Please let me know if the BMW LMR fits. I wonder if you'll need to get some new front mounts or something. I want to get a Kyosho body but those are so expensive!:eek:

I will (see myt previous post). Yeah, Kyosho bodies are expensive and all not so good on track to my opinion.. What would you prefer? I've tried at least the Skyline which is somewhat slow, and McLaren which is too long.. Maybe the Supra? or Acura (Honda) ?

[Dan H]

You'll need to cut the body posts lower but it should fit pretty well otherwise.

I had an order for a .15LD 2 years back (not for the FW04) but the online shop ran out of the sale and gave me my money back. :( Maybe I'll consider a .15LD if the right deal comes along but I'm tight on cash now.

When I ran the LMR, it was very fast at the tracks. Unfortunately, since you can't really run a foam bumper with that body (because of the curved FW04 bumper), it would bend easily if you hit the walls and the bumper would scrape against the ground. Stupid me was wondering why I was getting so much understeer. :D I got lazy and just bent them back up.

Now I run an HPI Corvette body and ran it at the track once. Definitely feels slower than the LMR. Oh yeah, replaced the bumper and put a GT4 foam bumper too.

[Mika]

Originally posted by Dan H
You'll need to cut the body posts lower but it should fit pretty well otherwise.

Good to hear.. I was prepared for that, though.

I had an order for a .15LD 2 years back (not for the FW04) but the online shop ran out of the sale and gave me my money back. :( Maybe I'll consider a .15LD if the right deal comes along but I'm tight on cash now.

Okay. I would definitely try it out if one pops up.

When I ran the LMR, it was very fast at the tracks. Unfortunately, since you can't really run a foam bumper with that body (because of the curved FW04 bumper), it would bend easily if you hit the walls and the bumper would scrape against the ground. Stupid me was wondering why I was getting so much understeer. :D I got lazy and just bent them back up.

Okay, luckily enough our local track doesn't have walls, so you don't get badly hit.. the stock bumper is enough.

Now I run an HPI Corvette body and ran it at the track once. Definitely feels slower than the LMR. Oh yeah, replaced the bumper and put a GT4 foam bumper too.

Yes, one would expect that since you are able to see the difference when running the car without body .. very nice indeed.

[hdcchrome]

I have a NEW 12LD! Very little different in the 12 and 15LD I have run both. So little I really can't tell with the two speed.

I could port and plish a 12LD for you too.

[hdcchrome]

Has anyone run the two speed on the four stroke?

Also, anyone have contacts in JAPAN to get some of the JAPAN ONLY parts or other parts TOWER does not sell???

THANKS
www.landjump.NET

[Dan H]

I ran a 2 speed on my 4 stroke. Works fine. Just make sure you have the right 4 stroke gearing.

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Dan H
I ran a 2 speed on my 4 stroke. Works fine. Just make sure you have the right 4 stroke gearing.

What gearing would that be??? Do you still have yours?

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
I have a NEW 12LD! Very little different in the 12 and 15LD I have run both. So little I really can't tell with the two speed.

I could port and plish a 12LD for you too.

Likely so. DuraTrax sells this nice ABC piston+sleeve kit for 12LD which gives a nice extra punch, I heard. It's only available for .12, not for 15LD :(

Anyone tried fitting the inner parts from 15CV-R to 15LD ?

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
Has anyone run the two speed on the four stroke?

Also, anyone have contacts in JAPAN to get some of the JAPAN ONLY parts or other parts TOWER does not sell???

THANKS
www.landjump.NET


I ordered the 15LD from Japan via local distributor here .. I don't know about US but what about Great Planes, they are your distributor there in US ? ask them (see below).

From http://www.osengines.com
Distributed Exclusively in the U.S.A. and Canada by:
Great Planes Model Distributors
P.O. Box 9021; Champaign, IL 61826-9021


I've run the two speed along with the 4-cycle fitting kit from Kyosho which includes the clutch and the clutch bell you'll need. You can use stock spur gears 37/41 from the 2-speed (FZW56) and pinions 24H and 20L, but I think 36 for higher and 42 for lower spur gear are better. Then, you can use pinions 19L and 25H. Unfortunately Tower does not seem to have all of them, though. Maybe you need to stick with the stock gearing as Tower seems to have 24H and 20L:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=39666-24H&FVPROFIL=++
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=39666-20L&FVPROFIL=++
-Mika

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Mika
Likely so. DuraTrax sells this nice ABC piston+sleeve kit for 12LD which gives a nice extra punch, I heard. It's only available for .12, not for 15LD :(

Anyone tried fitting the inner parts from 15CV-R to 15LD ?

For a car so well built, options, and versatile....you would think more people would read/post to this thread.

Anyway, let us know what you find out about the piston/sleve.

[Mika]

Yes, exactly! This car is very versatile, well built and durable. Lot's of options, too, especially on engines.

The ABC piston and sleeve kit can be found from Tower at
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXWU86&P=7

For some reason DuraTrax does not list it on their O.S. accessories page any more as they used to (I think)..
http://www.duratrax.com/caraccys/dtxg1500.html

.. but you can still find it here, too
http://www.duratrax.com/caraccys/dtxg1520.html

-Mika

[monyet fangkeh]

hi.... i got superten GP. i wanna change the bushing into bearings, cos the bushing getting worn out. how many bearings do i need? and what size is it. i wanna upgrade into full ball bearings. the car is bone stock right now. and someone kindly enough to send ur copy of superten GP manual? cos i lost mine.

thank you.
aryo

[Mika]

hi,
check this out http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVR24&P=7
you can also order the manual from tower if it's SuperTen FW04

[monyet fangkeh]

thanks mika:)
my superten is the GP one(i think) not the FW04
the car looks like thishttp://www.nitroreview.com/reviewimages/197/andrew4.JPG

[Mika]

okay, so it's the previous model (fw03).. unfortunately seems like Tower does not carry the manual for this .. ask from your local hobby shop if they order it for you or copy it

BTW, where do you need the manual? part listings can be found from the net and it's simple to break and rebuild ..

-Mika

[hdcchrome]

That looks like a SUPER 10 I have have. No too many differences between the SUPER 10 and FW04 as far as how they go together. I can provide you with a copy of the SUPER 10 manual for the cost of copying and postage.

You can convert that one with a new chassis, uppper deck, radio box, and front end. Should cost about $150 and you are set. The main draw back to the SUPER 10 is the VERY thin chassis and no radio box. There is also a special TEAM EDITION chassis for the SUPRER 10 that Tower Sells for around $100, WOW!

Good luck!

[monyet fangkeh]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
That looks like a SUPER 10 I have have. No too many differences between the SUPER 10 and FW04 as far as how they go together. I can provide you with a copy of the SUPER 10 manual for the cost of copying and postage.



Good luck! can u just send it to my email or something like that?

[monyet fangkeh]

Originally posted by Mika
okay, so it's the previous model (fw03).. unfortunately seems like Tower does not carry the manual for this .. ask from your local hobby shop if they order it for you or copy it

BTW, where do you need the manual? part listings can be found from the net and it's simple to break and rebuild ..

-Mika the prob is...im not the one who bought and built the car. my brother in law gave it to me and he obught is from singapore. he told me he lost the manual when i asked him about the manual. i just want the manual so i just want to make sure that what im doing is right;).

BTW mika...can u tell me supeprten site that gonna help me? cos i tried kyosho.com, it didnt help me very much.

thank you

[hdcchrome]

monyet fangkeh,

I could scan the whole manual for you and email it.

You can also buy it from Kyosho.

What are you having problems with. I could help you over the phone too.

[Mika]

Ok guys, finally got the BMW LMR from HPI which is shown cut but still unpainted below .. the OS .15 LD fits nicely inside. The fuel tank needs a small cut on the body to be fitted in, but it makes it handy to refill.

Next, some cutting and painting plus the stickers. I think it's gonna be very nice on the track.



http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c1.jpg

More images:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c2.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c3.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c4.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c5b.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c6b.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c7b.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c8b.jpg

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

Great pictures and nice web site. I need to get mine up on the screen too. I have spent to much time on my vintage stuff.

http://landjump.net/index3.htm






Originally posted by Mika
Ok guys, finally got the BMW LMR from HPI which is shown cut but still unpainted below .. the OS .15 LD fits nicely inside. The fuel tank needs a small cut on the body to be fitted in, but it makes it handy to refill.

Next, some cutting and painting plus the stickers. I think it's gonna be very nice on the track.



http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c1.jpg

More images:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c2.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c3.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c4.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c5b.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c6b.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c7b.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_clear/c8b.jpg

[Mika]

Thanks, hdcchrome.

My website needs updates which I hopefully have time to do after I finish this baby. I also have another HPI Micro (modified a lot) and new mods to other Micro (Skyline). I need to add those, too.

[Mika]

Umph.. seems like Kyosho has finished manufacturing FW04 and SuperTen cars .. they have renewed their japanese website www.kyosho.co.jp and FW04 cannot be found neither on japanese nor their english pages any more .. that's a shame. Can anyone confirm if this is so? Well, at least I was expecting this after they released the FW05-R which is pure ten size, not a Super.

hdcchrome, now you can spend "vintage time" on this car, too ;)

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

I guess it is just you and I in this link.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ONE THEY WANT TO SELL?????

Here are a few of my babies...

[hdcchrome]

.

[Mika]

Cool bodies, hdcchrome! Yeah, there ain't too many people discussing in this topic :D

In fact I was so disappointed when I realized that FW04 has gone out of production .. and when I got this offer for a HPI Super .. I decided to buy one with few hop-ups (but mostly stock) and try racing it next season .. (yes, season is over here) .. maybe I can also take part to the HPI challenge with it ..

I'm gonna keep the FW04 since I've spent so much time (and money) building it but for racing I think I will go for this HPI Super from now on .. I've been a big fan of Kyosho but not anymore .. I hope HPI won't do the same thing but I doubt since there's so many SNRS4 drivers out there especially in U.S. and the after market is quite big, too.

-Mika

[jjnasution]

HD chrome: I am getting ready to sell one of mine (I'll keep the 4 stroke) on e-bay. It has Corall XS 12 rear exhaust, Serpent Centax Clutch, Heavy duty 2 Speed, Harden diff gear, Center Universals, Aluminum 2 speed holder, Carbon upper deck, Roll Bar, Collar adjustable aluminum shocks.

It is fast as hell, but I could no longer keep up with the local guys with MTX 3 with foam tires (I used rubber tires), so I decided to buy the FW05.

Let me know.

Thanks

[jjnasution]

HD chrome: I am getting ready to sell one of mine (I'll keep the 4 stroke) on e-bay. It has Corall XS 12 rear exhaust, Serpent Centax Clutch, Heavy duty 2 Speed, Harden diff gear, Center Universals, Aluminum 2 speed holder, Carbon upper deck, Roll Bar, Collar adjustable aluminum shocks.

It is fast as hell, but I could no longer keep up with the local guys with MTX 3 with foam tires (I used rubber tires), so I decided to buy the FW05.

Let me know.

Thanks

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

You will NOT like the HPI product as well at all. Built like crap out of crap plastic, etc.. I have run one and it is sloppy, and the list goes on. Sorry to hear you are going HPI.

You can still get any parts for the FW-04 and there are tons of after market parts in Japan. I saw a ALL ALUMINUM one on Ebay the other day. If you want to unload all your KYOSHO stuff let me know.

NOW, for the good side of HPI, they have cool bodies and just released a RACE competitive 1/10th scale car that has many good reviews.

Cya,
www.landjump.net




Originally
posted by Mika
Cool bodies, hdcchrome! Yeah, there ain't too many people discussing in this topic :D

In fact I was so disappointed when I realized that FW04 has gone out of production .. and when I got this offer for a HPI Super .. I decided to buy one with few hop-ups (but mostly stock) and try racing it next season .. (yes, season is over here) .. maybe I can also take part to the HPI challenge with it ..

I'm gonna keep the FW04 since I've spent so much time (and money) building it but for racing I think I will go for this HPI Super from now on .. I've been a big fan of Kyosho but not anymore .. I hope HPI won't do the same thing but I doubt since there's so many SNRS4 drivers out there especially in U.S. and the after market is quite big, too.

-Mika

[hdcchrome]

Send me PIX and price :)

How many do you have?


Originally posted by jjnasution
HD chrome: I am getting ready to sell on

e of mine (I'll keep the 4 stroke) on e-bay. It has Corall XS 12 rear exhaust, Serpent Centax Clutch, Heavy duty 2 Speed, Harden diff gear, Center Universals, Aluminum 2 speed holder, Carbon upper deck, Roll Bar, Collar adjustable aluminum shocks.

It is fast as hell, but I could no longer keep up with the local guys with MTX 3 with foam tires (I used rubber tires), so I decided to buy the FW05.

Let me know.

Thanks

[Mika]

Originally posted by hdcchrome
Mika,

You will NOT like the HPI product as well at all. Built like crap out of crap plastic, etc.. I have run one and it is sloppy, and the list goes on. Sorry to hear you are going HPI.

You can still get any parts for the FW-04 and there are tons of after market parts in Japan. I saw a ALL ALUMINUM one on Ebay the other day. If you want to unload all your KYOSHO stuff let me know.

NOW, for the good side of HPI, they have cool bodies and just released a RACE competitive 1/10th scale car that has many good reviews.

Cya,
www.landjump.net

Okay, thanks for the info. I'll still keep my FW04 at this point.
At least I get that car tested, since I haven't seen one here in Finland.. something to build during winter time.

BTW, is HPI way too slow with the stock engine and stock muffler even with 2-speed? Our track is quite twisty so I was wondering do I need all the hop-ups to get it going.. I have the spare NovaRossi RS12T5 waiting, though. I think if I ever attend to the HPI Challenege, i'll need to the Nova? (but with single speed perhaps to limit working parts). Thanks in advance!

Cheers
-Mika

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

I don't know what the HPI rules are. I know that HPI used to (MANY YEARS AGO) put out NOVA engines with the HPI branding. They have changed manufactures now and their engines are not in the same class as nova.

Nova Rossi has five engine lines (NOVA ROSSI, TOP, RB CONCEPTS, REX, and MEGA) Serpent pushes the MEGA engine, not to be confused with megatech.

Get a nice RB Concept and blow the competition!!!!!

If you need FW-04 parts, let me know.

[Mika]

Thanks!

I've got a NovaRossi RS12T5S2 with 1.55 HP, one of the most powerful .12 size engines today. I used it for a while for drag racing and parking lot competition in my FW04 Super and what a rocket it was, but it was also wearing parts fast even though FW04 is very strong car - and it was way too much for me at the local track with the 2-speed, so switched to the OS 15LD like you already now and I really like how the car handles at the track.

I really like Supers because of their size and since I got the FW04 it's also nice try out the HPI Super (and because of the fact that Kyosho dropped their Super from their catalog). I'm not exactly looking for a fast car, but a steady performer that is also fun to drive. Of course, if the stock 15FE engine with stock muffler is lousy even with 2-speed, I'm gonna switch to the Nova (with 1-speed to limit working parts since it's a high performance engine that would likely break the 2-speed; the cheaper 2-speed for the FW04 lasted like 2 seconds when I stepped on the pedal.. the better 2-speed FZW56 lasted well but eventually the cam holder broke also also the universals in front..)

HPI Challenge seems to have only Super Nitro modified class so if I'm gonna drive there I think I'll need the Nova (there's no stock class as far as I know) in order to keep up with other guys. But then, I need more hop-ups as well as a starter box; my box for the FW04 won't do, the drive is located horizontally only. I think I'll start with stock engine and fewer parts.

Oh yeah lastly, I also ordered HPI Super foams from US to try them out next season; people say they are much better than slicks. But I need the HPI slicks for the Challenge, though.

-Mika

[hdcchrome]

Mika,

I have access to a BIG HPI shop here if you need anything. Also, I have an extra starter box if you need it.

I suggest getting the RJ RIDES or JACO tires.

Cya,

[Mika]

I got the car ready with the HPI open air BMW body, it just needs paint and stickers.

I cut a hole for the tank on the drivers lap where the gas tank can be easily refilled w/o opening the body. I also cut a small hole on the side for the glow igniter.

Like Dan said I needed modify the fron body posts but it was easily done with spare posts (without those springs FW04 has).

Basically whole installation was a simple procedure. Let's see how it handles on track!

[Mika]

Here we go

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_lmr/1.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_lmr/2.jpg

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_lmr/3.jpg
http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/bmw_lmr/4.jpg

[Blaster]

If the guys that started my addiction in Kyosho Superteens (Mike and nolan) are still alive, I some news. I have 3 FW-04, all with hop-up parts. But one is special. It has a .21 engine with 2 speed. Amazing machine. Stable and fast.

My only concern is: how to have the engine working in a "linear" way, where the performance is the same from full tank to almost empty? The engine rotation - mainly - changes from full tank to almost empty. Is there any way you know to diminish it?

:confused:

[Mika]

Wow Blaster, three Supers! :D

I would say your engine might need a bit more tuning if rpm gets higher towards empty tank, you are running a bit on the rich side. Lean it a bit.

[Blaster]

Hey Mika!
Yes, 3 FW-04. One with stock engine, one with OS .26 (4 stroke) and one with OS .21VZR. All with 2 speed and using Kyosho parts to make the upgrades.

The problem only appear on .21 and stock engine. If I lean the fuel mixture isn't the engine harder to start? It actually starts normally, runs good but at the end of the tank it increases aceleration. I wondered if it happens on all 2 stroke engine, as the 4 stroke does not have this problem. Anyway I followed your tip and will run the car to see how it will perform.

How do I place pictures of the cars here?

Thansk for the tip.

[Mika]

Hi Blaster, try leaning it from the main needle 15-45 degrees after running few minutes after starting. This also affects (leans) the low-speed needle which may need to be re-adjusted, too. Riching the low-speed needle a bit might help starting the engine after you have leaned the main needle. That is, you have 2-needle carb (if not, just lean from the main needle).

You can attach a file when posting or point an image link to it (if you have it available somewhere in the net).

[Blaster]

Mika, I'll try your tip and keep you posted. In this meantime I saw previous messages where guys say that there is no parts and/or FW-04 is no longer in production. As far as I know the FW05 is an upgrade kit to Vone cars... Tower Hobbies has lots of stock and upgrade parts to this car and delivery worldwide.

I decided to a Superteen after read this forum. I had other brands and very few of them has the same quality and are as strong as Kyosho.

I bought a MoonEyes Chevy Van body to use on my .21 Superteen. It is great to go to new track's and see the faces when a "square" van chases the Touring Cars lap times. Obviously it can not compete on any category due what's under the "hood":D

[hdcchrome]

Originally posted by Blaster
If the guys that started my addiction in Kyosho Superteens (Mike and nolan) are still alive, I some news. I have 3 FW-04, all with hop-up parts. But one is special. It has a .21 engine with 2 speed. Amazing machine. Stable and fast.

My only concern is: how to have the engine working in a "linear" way, where the performance is the same from full tank to almost empty? The engine rotation - mainly - changes from full tank to almost empty. Is there any way you know to diminish it?

:confused:

Blaster, PLEASE send me pictures of your babies!!!!

I run a site that includes these NOW VINTAGE cars!!! WOW .21, how did ya do it?

I also have FOUR!
#ONE (four stroke)
#TWO (.15 RX racing)
#THREE (.15 LD)
#FOUR (.12 LD)

[Blaster]

Hei hdcchrome, what is your website?

All my cars use Kyosho and/or OS parts to the upgrade. It means that besides the .21 is not made by Kyosho this "HyperTen" can be made with parts bought in a hobbie shop.
:cool:

I have a complete list of the parts used on each of them, if you want let me know. The 2 speed is default on all of them. But to the 4 stroke I had to use the FZW056.

Here are some photos of my "garage" and cars.

[Blaster]

Here are all cars...

[Blaster]

These are the FW-04...

[Blaster]

An this is the one with OS .21 VZ-R(P).

[Mika]

The last one is pretty interesting! I tested the newer FW04 2-speed (the one you have above) with NovaRossi but it could not take the power, it broke fast. The FZW56 is much better, but awfully expensive like you know. I'm a bit surprised that it works with the .21, that may be because .12 revs more than a .21

[Blaster]

I tried the FZW056 with this engine and the result wasn't good. They don't fit - .21 engine x FZW056 gear box - using stock parts.:mad:

On the other hand the Kyosho 2 speed cat# 39014 not only fits like a glove. It handles the power of .21 without any significant wear than the caused by the original GS15R. In fact, most of the parts as engine mounts and flywheel are the same used to fit the OS .15RX on this car. Or the original ones that came with the car. Only major difference is that the clutch is now a vespel unit. Having said that most of the cost to change the Superteen to a "Hyperteen" is basically the cost of this OS .21, the OS T-2050 Header (72106150) & T-2040 Silencer (72106040)... :D

The car almost take off at full speed with 2.5Hp pushing this car forward: it is 2.5 times the power of original engine.

If you are interested I can show more photos and parts used.

[Mika]

Ok, Blaster.
I've tried following engines to FW04
- stock GS15R
- OS-26S-C(X)
- OS 15CV Hyper
- OS 15RX (rear exhaust)
- NovaRossi RS12T5S2 (rear exahaust)
- OS 15LD (the current one and th one I prefer)

I've run NovaRossi both with the old 2-speed (FZW56) and the new one. With the Nova I've also used and tested parts like high balanced flywheel (FZW62) and low height mounts (FZW60). OS RX needed a bunch of other parts having an SG shaft.
So trust me, I know this car ;)

My experiences on the newer 2-speed weren't good with the NovaRossi engine, but I'm glad you like it and it works for you. In fact I also broke the FZW56 shift cam holder after running it 2 years but it was easily fixed though. The older one is just so much better.

But from now on I'm not gonna spend any more money on this car, it's perfect for me the way it is now. (I used to have 2 of these but I sold the other one in the summer). For next season I'm getting also a HPI Super, let's see how it does. But before that there's a long winter to wait.
Cheers
-Mika

[Blaster]

Seems that you really know this car. I started on it early Jan this year, after running 1/10s.

The parts used as if assembling a .15RX were just the flyweel and the engine mount. Remember, its a .21, not the .15RX. Throtle and brake linkage are stock. The 2 speed components are all original, except for the vespel clutch. I also used components to fix the gear for a fan (cat # 39641), but never installed the fan itself (it's now on .26 4 stroke car). The car is driven all weekends since Feb and never gave me trouble. Except that a fuel tank takes 6 to 7 minutes to get empty....

I don't know HPI cars. At the end of the day all depends on how you drive and the maintenance of the car.:)

[Mika]

Exactly! yes, .21's are pretty thirsty. Can't remember how long a tank lasted with RX but it was around 10 mins or little less on track.

[Tjappie]

Hello, i'm back and almost done building my FW-04:) I posted some qeustions on page 11&12 about installing a OS RX, and ordered the parts but my LHS said that the Engine mounts and the flywheel are not available:( BTW thanks for the answers you gave me Mika. I don't know what engine i'm gonna use and the LHS has new .18 engine in .15 size don't know anything else yet.

The mods i did to my car:
Hard main chassis
Carbon upper deck
Front and rear universals
Foam bumper
Hi-ratio diffs
2-speed ( not the special one, i bought the Loctite NSX)
Sway bars, what colors should i use and do the screws that hold them be set tight or loose so it can move easily?
Cooling fan
18-spoke silver wheels
I also cut the left wing in front of the rear wheel and glued it to the radio box and i can still mount the rear screw of the wing in the chassis. I tried to take pics with my webcam but the quality was really bad:(
Hitec 425BB for throttle/brake

Still need a high power engine, steering servo, shocks, paint the Murcielago body, and buy a decent radio system. I got a simple AM system know but i wan't more setting options, thinking about a Futaba 3PK.

If i order a different engine than OS, can i still use the Kyosho engine mounts for OS engines?

Sorry if my English isn't correct

Now i'm going to look at my car;)
bye

[Blaster]

Tjappie,

Seems that you will have a even greater machine when you finish your project. Superteens are reliable, strong and very "adaptable".:D

If you want a big engine you can use the OS .21VZ-R. It fits perfectly with parts you purchased already. As for other engines check the distance between mounting holes in your chassis, engine mount and engine itself. At the end of the day you can pick any engine. Depends only of your budget and patience to find the right parts.

What other engine do you have in mind?

[Tjappie]

well i don't have an engine in mind, but i think a .21 would be to heavy. So i think i'm gonna buy a .12 or .15. would these fit an OS .15CV-R: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV284&P=Z

[Mika]

Guys, my opinion is that OS .21 engine is better for off-road while for example OS 15RX (1.3HP)is best choice for on-road. With 2-speed the RX was incredibly fast. The car was very fast with .12 NovaRossi (1.55HP), too, but RX is less expensive. I would go for RX if you want a fast car. Tower sells these engines pretty cheap these days. For racing on track the OS 15LD is very nice; not the fastest but handling is great, and gives you very good lap times when the car is tuned properly.
Cheers
-Mika

[Blaster]

Tjappie - I use my superten with .21 just for fun.:cool: Therefore the weigh is compensating by power (2.5HP).

To use it on a track I would keep the .15RX. I agree with Mika on this matter. I used this engine in the past and power/weight relation is good and durability and CG are not compromised. :D

Helps a lot if you use all the hop-ups you mentioned earlier. I just don't think it needs the fan (depends on where you live and local temperature, of course). Id adds weight and also "grabs" some power from engine. For sway bars I use gold in front and silver on rear. But id will depends of the course you will run and your car setup.:)

As for the left wing in front of rear wheel I also glued it with double side tape on my radio tray.

To the OS .15RX you can use the engine mounts http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXU178 and the flywheel http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXU242

[Blaster]

Tajppie - just remembered something. Before move to .21 I was considering an engine to my FW-04 to use it on tracks. Is the OS .12TR(P)-T. It weights 30g (1.2oz) less than .15RX with additional 0.1Hp at only 2.000rpm more.

No clue yet if it fits superteen, as I abbandoned this project.

Mika, what do you think?

[Tjappie]

Hey guys, today i bought something cool: digital servo! It's made by Multiplex, it's a PROFI speed digi
some specs:
speed 4.8V 0.11s
speed 6.0V 0.09s
metal gearing
but no no info about torque:( but feels very strong
Price was the same as a Hitec 625mg, think i ll get another for throttle/brake.

Also ordered these parts:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXV284&P=Z For mounting the OS .15 CV-R. Will this fit?
and do i need another flywheel and wich one?
also ordered:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXZH12&P=Z

going back to my cars now, bye

[Mika]

Originally posted by Blaster
Tajppie - just remembered something. Before move to .21 I was considering an engine to my FW-04 to use it on tracks. Is the OS .12TR(P)-T. It weights 30g (1.2oz) less than .15RX with additional 0.1Hp at only 2.000rpm more.

No clue yet if it fits superteen, as I abbandoned this project.

Mika, what do you think?

Oh yes, Blaster, it's a good option for track use. Not quite the torque RX has but I suspect it would be nice on track. It's similar to the NovaRossi RS12T5 in size which was very nice, especially with lowered engine mounts and high balanced flywheel giving a low CG. However, I feel the RX is best choice for FW04 in overal which is little bit bigger that 1/10 cars along with OS LD engine for track use.

[Blaster]

I assume everybody that comes to this forum enjoys or have Supertens. So here is something to dream with...

http://www.nitroreview.com/features/super10preview.cfm

Just an appetizer....:D

[Tjappie]

I am so fed up that i can't show you guys any pics, So right now i'm going to the store and buy a digital cam.

I'LL BE BACK!!

[Mika]

Allright, waiting for pics ...

[Tjappie]

I got the pics and uploaded them, sorry for the bad quality but they are my first pics:)

http://www.******.net/member/Kyoshofreak

[Mika]

nice! the blue color is good looking, and if you wanna get it even cooler may I suggest adding tint color to windows

[Tjappie]

Hmm, i totally forgot to tell you guys i drove my car today:)
I fitted the stock engine ( GS-15R), smacked on some shocks, and took her to a huge parkinglot. The engine ran perfect and the car was screaming all over the place:cool: There was this kid and he
had a Serpent (stock), but mine was definitely faster:D

So i was driving my car all day until suddenly it stopped, like it had full brake, i checked it out: stripped spurgears:( they are the simple black ones so i need to know the partnumbers for the special gears.

Yes Mika, still need to spray the windows:)

[Blaster]

Tjappie - nice looking car:D The Murcielago body with those silver mesh wheels were a great fit! Cool:cool: I use the stock 2 peed with a even more powerfull engine (2.5Hp) and never had problem. What happened to damage your spur gears - not aligned engine? Don't know if you are using a single or 2 speed trans. The stock 2 speed is cat# 39014. The special ones are FZW056 and you can get the parts here http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSU18&P=0. Some spur gears are listed here http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0005p?&I=KYOC0358&P=Z

What is your MF project?:D

[Tjappie]

I don't know why the spurs stripped, the engine is still in it's place. Mesh was also ok, think some dirt got in between.
About the Mad Project : patience my friend, patience
:D

[Tjappie]

I have the normal 2-speed, will the special gears fit?

[Blaster]

The FZW056 will fit on single speed case. You will have to change the pinion gears also - the new ones come with the kit.

Man, where is the MF project? You are not using the forum anymore? We are curious - LOL.:D :D :D

[Tjappie]

I'll try the normal gears one more time, if they break i will get try the special 2-speed. I'm still waiting for the teflon shocks, carbon steering plate and the engine mounts, i would like to know what springs you guys use for the shocks.
And do i need to tighten the screws that hold the antirollbarr, so it can only bend when suspension is compressed, or should it be free to move?

Also had a nice idea: carbon rear bodypostmountholder








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[Blaster]

Tjappie - I might not be the best person to help you with the springs. I have 3 superteens and the one I like most is exactly the one with .21 engine. This car is the only one with anti roll bars and teflon shocks (others are stock shocks) And as a heavier car the spring setup is completely different. I use a combination of springs of this set - http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXPU93&P=Z - front and rear.


In my opinion, the anti roll bar setup will depend most of the kind of track you run. Again, as my favorite car is not a conventional one, I prefer that anti-roll only bend as soon as the shocks are compressed.

I liked the idea of carbon parts all around. Also on schock towers and body mounts. Will you make them or buy - and where?;)

I liked the top secret message. Still waiting for the pics...:D

[Tjappie]

Hmm... if i understand correctly the antirollbar can be set by tightening or loosening the screw?

[Blaster]

Yes. And also by changing the bar itself....

[Mika]

I didn't like the bars.. out track is just too twisty for it.. bars are good for fast long tracks I guess. Don't use them.

[Tjappie]

There are tracks here but they are only for electric RC's.
So I only do parkinglot-racing, the way I drive is about the same as on a long high speed track. Once i get my shocks i can begin experimenting with the susp. set-up. And my new spurgears, but they probably take another 3 weeks to arrive:mad:

[Blaster]

Tjappie - don't forget to send us some pics and action vids!:D

[Tjappie]

Ok, new pics : http://www.******.net/member/Kyoshofreak

Check out the cooling holes i made, and the TL01 i use when the other is broken

[Tjappie]

just fill in: r c p ics (but all together off course) where the stars are:p

[Mika]

Nice sports socks in the background :D
Just kidding.. I have the same pipe and it works!

[Tjappie]

those aren't sport socks, they're tire warmers:p

[Blaster]

Tjappie - nice pics. Your car must be really fast with this tunned pipe, carbon deck, digital servo and special tire warmers. :D The gear box even striped out due to the high speeds! What a speed it achieves!!!:p

Liked the Peugeot body. It is not a Kyosho... What body is this?

[Tjappie]

I have tirewarmers for sale: not the ones on the pic but much better ones, made by Grandma's hobbies...
just kidding.

The Peugeot body is made by Tamiya, it comes with a spoiler and mirrors.

Check out my new site:
www.geocities.com/tjappiehappie/tjappie

[Blaster]

Tjappie - nice site. But I still want to see the MF project.:D

Do you know Jeroen - he's from Holland too.

[Dan H]

Anyone try the larger diameter OS header for their 4 stroke?

My stock header is bent up pretty bad and I was just wondering if anyone has had any significant gain when going with the OS.

[Blaster]

Dan H - I have a Superten with OS .FS-26S too. Nice car and engine. But 2 speed is a must have to 4 strokes.

As for parts for it, besides the FS-26S is still in production, the engine is the same used on airplanes as FS-30, so get parts to it is not hard to find.

The sound of a 4 stroke is much more beautifull. On twisty turns and short straight circuits you'll se a great performance (where the torque is more used). On fast circuits with long straights the 2 strokes stiil have better performance.

[Dan H]

Yeah, I have a 2 speed and know about the advantages/disadvantages of the 4 stroke already.

But you didn't answer my question. I was wondering if anyone has tried the larger diameter OS header for their 4 stroke over the stock header.

Thanks.

[Mika]

Hi Dan, I think Nolan Farmer did that in his Super.

[Tjappie]

This is not fun anymore!
3 months ago i ordered a lot of parts, i check every week if they where in , but it took 4 weeks before some parts arived:mad:
So the LHS-guy tells me he gives a call to Germany ( where the kyosho parts come from, for Holland) and says that they are still coming. yesterday i went back: no parts:mad: Peter, the LHS-guy, makes another call and says they send the parts tommorow:confused:
I'm angry at Kyosho Germany and the LHS, Peter is a AH, when somebody walks in he's like: Oeh...Get out of my RC-imperium:p
Let's say you walk in and ask for some batteries, He takes some 0.50 cent crappy batteries and litteraly smacks them on the counter. "Here you go, bye":eek:

[Dan H]

Mika, oh ok. Cool. :cool:

Tjappie, that sucks. Hope you get your stuff soon and get that FW04 back on the road. :)

[Blaster]

Tj - have you tried Tower instead this AH LHS? I guess you pay 20% import tax in Holland. Man, such a service sucks!:mad:

Dan H - nice that Mika helped you. As a 4 stroke owner I would like to know what you got regarding the large diameter header.:D

[Mika]

Guys, try scanning this thread for Nolan's posts. I recall there's his ideas about this.
Happy Holidays,

-Mika

[Tjappie]

Yes, in 2004 i'm gonna get a creditcard and order from tower, that will definitely save some bucks.
Here's what happened to my 2-speed:
one-way bearing got stuck, screw from that shift thingie flew out tru the gear, and the main shaft broke while trying to take it apart.
So now i need a new 2 -speed, think i'm gonna try this one:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXV836&P=V

[Blaster]

Tjappie - this 2 speed your are looking for will work fine. I have one. It is a clone of FZW056. I finally posted some pics of my Superten with OS .21 VZ-R. It can be found along my other cars in http://www.******.net/member/Blaster . Please change the 6 stars (*) to the word: r c p i c s. All letters together, without blank.:D

[ben peters]

wow been a while since anyone posted in here, anyway i have a stock FW-04 with the Mclaren body i have had it for over a year and i have never cut any holes in it. Now of course i did for the wheels and such but i'm talking about for air flowand also to fill up the tank. I know i know i should have done it but i just never got to cutting the holes. now for the tank i can just cut the right window out and then put a zip-tie (gotta love em :)) then just open but my problem is that i can cut a hole in the windshield but what do i do about the back? i know i have to have and exit hole or it will act like a parachute. the reason i didn't wasn't i guess because of looks. What should i do? just also cut a whole in the rear and also is there anything that i cando about being able to reach the pull start with the body on?


and just one last thing the holesare usualy 2 inches diameter correct

thanks for the help :)

[tranced]

ben peters: you have a very good theory there, in which exit holes in the body would create air turbulence. This theory, however could be amplified several times when in R/C sizes.

The exit holes should be as circular as possible to reduce all unsprung lexan contact area.

A 2" in diameter wide hole should be sufficient enough for the engine to breathe and cool.

Remember, that's a 1" radius.

If you have any more questions, I'm always avaliable at the QURC Forums (http://www.queensunitedrc.com/forum) when you need answers to questions :D

[ben peters]

yes but u really didn't answer my question...there is no rear window to put a hole!! as i stated above it is a Mclaren F1 body it has no rear window at all and also what about the window for gas tank filling and about being able to use the pull start

[Blaster]

Ben - I don't have a McLaren body but my NSX has the same problem: no rear window. As I am using a .21 engine on my Superteen I couldn't let it run without fresh air. On the link below you can see the front and rear holes I made on it. Hope it helps.:D

http://www.******.net/media.php?searchstr=user:2505&trick=Any&type=Any&time=1073901395&search=search&limit=10 - please change the 6 stars (*) to the word r c p i c s.

[ben peters]

i got to the site but where do i go to see ur pics?

[Blaster]

Ben - on left side of the main page type the word Blaster on "Media Quick Search". It will take you to a couple pictures. The first one with 2 Mad Forces is mine. Click on it. After that you can choose - under the pic - to "view more items" from Blaster. Click on it and the first pics you'll se are the Superten pics. Hope it helps.:D

[ben peters]

thanks mani found them i can see that u didn't use circles either instead u made two rectangles

[Blaster]

Ben - you are right. As I am using a very big engine and it needs more air to dissipate heat. These retangles don't create much turbulence to affect performance nor compromisses the looking of the car (I guess).:D

[driftin4tay]

:D hi there, i have a used fw-04 for sale. its the special version which features: 2 speed, black top and bottom chassis, pivot ball suspension and other good features that fw-04 has and also included is a new painted nsx body and extra parts. wanting $230 or make a reasonable offer. thanks

p.s. hertes a link where you can find out morre specs of the car:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p? &I=LXANJ0&P=7 [/url]

please email me at :trimugenhatch@yahoo.com

[markanda]

Btw, Tower has them on sale for 232.05 with the old engine...dont know how long they will last.

If anyone is selling or knows of any LD or LDX for sale 12 or 15 please email me @ markanda@queensunitedrc.com

We havd a club full of supertens and looking for more....

Mark

[Blaster]

markanda - I found some LD and LDX engines in this site here http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html . Move the bar on left side to the option "Engines" and then to "Car Engines". You'll find .15 LD/LDX there...

Any pics or site of your club?:D

[markanda]

Originally posted by Blaster
markanda - I found some LD and LDX engines in this site here http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html . Move the bar on left side to the option "Engines" and then to "Car Engines". You'll find .15 LD/LDX there...

Any pics or site of your club?:D

QURC (http://www.queensunitedrc.com) is our place, Blaster - goto Gallery to check out some picutres.

THANKS Soooooooooooooooo much for the LD connection !!!!

God bless FW04 owners, QURC and the Troops all over the world that protect our freedom...US of A

[Mika]

OS 15LD fits FW04 (I have it) and I can say it's great.. good power and great handling. I've run 6 different engines including NovaRossi, OS RX, OS CVR, OS FS etc and this is best yet on track.

[markanda]

Originally posted by Mika
OS 15LD fits FW04 (I have it) and I can say it's great.. good power and great handling. I've run 6 different engines including NovaRossi, OS RX, OS CVR, OS FS etc and this is best yet on track.

The overall improvment after installing and properly tuning the LD is just amazing. Starting it after running it awhile can be a chore because of the carb temp....i just deal with it because the +'s out weigh the -'s .....

[Blaster]

Markanda and Mika - the LD's are not powerfull compared to the new engines. However I have to assume it lower considerably the CG of the car providing better handling. Having said that, if we compare a superten with a LD to one with a RX15 (for example), what's best for a mid speed track?

[Mika]

I know since I've own those engines from OS and NovaRossi and I've had also OS 15RX in my Super. However, my lap times are better with LD. I can easily beat a guy having RX in his super on track. Speed runs are different thing.

[markanda]

I never said the BHP was outrageous on the ldx engine, HOWEVER the better CG makes up for the lack of BHP on the track. It is a shame that OS does not come out with another type of LD engine.....

[Blaster]

I can say I drove a Superten with OUTRAGEOUS bhp using a . 21 engine. However the handling on fast line changes and small turns was terrible. Good only for parking lot driving...

The LD engines seems good enough, besides I never drove a car with that. My only concern is: at some point your handling and CG are not enough to make difference on a track. The lack of power and torque are hardly compensate in a heavy car as a Superten. With the new powerhouses we have today (.12 and .15) would the LDs still be competitive? Can we change gasket and piston and squeeze some aditional power of it?

Any pics of a ST with a LD engine?

[Mika]

I'll post a pic soon. You'd be surprised how much the car changed -- at least I was. Other guys on track were too. Forgot to mention I have the Hi Ratio steel diffs in front and rear, it may give an extra punch neede with otherwise slightly sluggish engine. I have also slightly taller gearing. I feel the car was originally designed with the LD but threw the cheaper GS15R into the box to keep the price down

[Mika]

OK here's few:

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/FW04/FW04_3.JPG

http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/FW04/FW04_4.JPG

You can see how flat it is.

[Blaster]

Nice pics! Man the car is too flat... Never saw a pic of the ST with this engine.

Mika - what is the temp that your engine runs with this pipe close to the head and the black plastic also over part of it? Have you tried another kind of airfilter or the stock one is good for it?
Are you still using the BMW body?

[Mika]

Thanks, pics are quite okay, could be better of course.

I ran Murciealago last season and planned to use the BMW for the coming which fits nicely with this engine; no need cutting holes except for the gas tank. But this winter I bought the HPI super so I'm actually selling this car if somebody wants to buy it (I ask around 500 euros depending on items included) .Btw, see my HPI from link below.

The temp run around 130-140 degrees Celsius if I recall correctly. It was with the plastic engine cover, and yes I used the stock filters, no problem on track.

the HPI SN (http://www.kolumbus.fi/mika.rinne/racer/wheels2.jpg)

[evilGearhead]

hey all, im back.,
i have been running eighth scale onroad for the last year, while the fw has been sitting neglected in a drawer. now that ive got 1/8th scale out of my system, im ready for the fw04 experience again.
(serpent 1/8ths suck)

and i was wondering, ive got a bareley used os 12LD that id like to swap for a 15LDX, i am willing to pay a reasonable amount of cash to get ahold of a 15ldx, if theres any takers.

so whats new in supertens in the last year?

[Blaster]

Mika - I realli liked your HPI SN. The body colour and wheels are great! In fact I visited your webpage and besides my swedish is not up to the task I really liked the pics and some info I got there. Sad to know you are selling your ST. :( Hope you keep coming to this forum

evilgearhead - nice to see you here!:D I saw your ST pic on LM forum. What pipe do you use with your .12LD? Do you run it with McLaren body? Seems that there are some LD engines in here (http://www.hobbynet-jp.com/english/hobbynet.html) . Move the left side bar to ENGINES option and then Car Engines. The price in Yen should be divided by 133 to get it in US$.

What fuels you guys are using on your ST? % nitro and % of oil.

I wonder why the Superten (and HPI Super Nitro as well as Tamiyas) doesn't have so much people talking about them. I know that they are well sold but seems their owners don't like the forums....

[Mika]

OK blaster, I will translate them to english when I have the chance (btw it's finnish ;) ) Thanks.

Evil, welcome back. Tell us about your experiences in 1/8 on-road why so bad? Juts curious (never ridden one..)

[evilGearhead]

why did 1/8th suck for me?
two words sums it up. serpent veteq.
theres a reason serpent acts like they never created that over-engineered pile of parts.
i just ran into the same chassis problems all season, and i kept throwing money at it, and having the same problems every time, gave up, got pissed, and sold it. serpent cares more about making money than winning races now, with their new policy of releasing new cars EVERY year now, no one in my level of racing can afford to keep up. thats why theres hardly any snakes at my track anymore.

besides, did you see how much ass that new kyosho evolva kicked at the worlds?
5 out of the top 8 places, and winner of the worlds, with a brand new car !
i am now officially a kyosho brand ***** :D

after that whole experience , i think i will be content with my FW and my LM2 for awhile

[evilGearhead]

blaster, im using the paris turbo-ring pipe, it helps that dog of a 12ld a little , :rolleyes: but not enough, and the mclaren body... still.
the mclaren handles like ass, but ive still yet to buy a new shell.

[evilGearhead]

Beater>

[evilGearhead]

notice how low my fan sits?, i slotted the side case, and added a "tensioner" so i coi\uld lower it a ton, the sliced the plastic off the front of the engine case..
no holes in the windshield, and i still get extra-cool temps.

i really need a 15ldx!

[evilGearhead]

heres a closeup of the "improved" fan