Ofna Pirate 10 Monster

[Big Wig]

I can't believe there isn't already a thread for this truck! Ever since I read RC Nitro's reveiw of the p10m, I've though it was cool as hell... now, RCCA does a reveiw also and that's all I can take! I ordered mine today ;)

I have lots of nitro vehicles. I have cars that do over 50 (ob4 with an mt.12) and cars that throw roost (TQ, GT, MBX R2). I even have a "built by me" 2 speed Stampede that flies! The p10m will be a great addition to my collection - it will hurl roost and do nearly 50mph!!! I can't wait to get it!

Post anything and everything about the p10 m right here!

[OmegaTrac]

Yes, I am surprised that a Thread wasnt started until now. I think this truck is freakin AWESOME. BW, make sure you post some pics and a rundown of the truck when you get it. Where did you order your P10M from? How much was it?

Thanks


Lets get this thread rollin'

[Big Wig]

I bought it from Ultimate Hobbies for $320.

I can't wait to get it!

[Possumbot]

u gotta lock ur center diff, or ur gonna b slicing the grass with the front tires. That thing looks insane, a smaller version of the EK-4 it seems like.

[djhoudek]

I'm thinking about selling my t-max for the monster pirate 10 but the only concern I keep hearing about is the support from ofna isn't the greatest. Does anyoune have any feedback on this?

[Big Wig]

I own 2 Ofna cars (mbx r2 and ob4) and parts support is good. I just call Nitrohouse when I need something... they stock everything Ofna makes.

As far as tech support, I've had to call Ofna several times and the people I've talked to have been cool and seem to know their stuff.

I can't wait to got my p10m!!! LOL

[Big Wig]

I got it!!!!!

This thing looks sweet! My 1st impression of this vehicle is it looks well thought out, the quality appears to be very good (we'll see how it holds up ;) and it's small.... VERY small! The Hyper .21 looks massive in there!

I snapped some pics right after it came out of the box... I'll post them later. Right now, I'm in the middle of heat cycling the engine. It fired right up BTW.

I can't wait to wring this thing out!!!

[R_C_MAN]

Big WIg - Does this truck accept regular 1/10 scale size tires on its wheels? What kind of tires fit it? Can it fit Traxxas and HPI wheels? This truck looks like a lot of fun!

[Big Wig]

R_C_MAN, I don't know what tires will fit the truck, I haven't really checked it out yet. All I've had time to do so far is heat cycle the engine 3 times and put the decals on the body, oh... and take some pics ;)

here is pic 1:

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pic 2:

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pic 3:

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pic 4:

[Possumbot]

there probably either 17mm or 19mm hubs. If they are 17mm, u could mount some mp tires or the mt-3 rims and run maxx tires.

[Big Wig]

Well, I've run 5 tanks through the p10m so far. I heat cycled the engine by letting it idle for 3 minutes - I did this 3 times and it used up a tank of fuel. Then I started driving it around.

I was outside cooking steak last night and that gave me the change to run the truck. I was driving it around my driveway and across my lawn. I had to lean it out quite a bit just to get the clutch to engage... it was blubbering rich out of the box. It was still running very rich and blowing tons of smoke, but even then it was ripping at half throttle and balloning the front tires like it's famous for! The truck ran great and never stalled. The temp stayed around 180 - 190.

For my 5th tank I went out back to the track. I leaned it out a little more but it was still acting very rich. The thing is a riot on the straightaway! It jumps pretty good too but you have to hit the jump just right. If you hit jumps at angles, the p10m will punish you with a spectacular cartwheel. When the tank was almost empty, I took a temp reading - 230! It seemed to be awful rich for a temp that high! The drivetrain is smooth with no binding so I'm not sure what's going on. Maybe my low end needle is a mile out and that's why I had to lean out the high end so much. I'll do some tuning this afternoon.

So far, I really like this truck. It was one of the nicest looking trucks I've seen before I ran it. All that red! Very nicely designed too, it doesn't look cheap. For a low end radio, the Airtronics Blazer Sport seems nice. It's comfortable and doesn't have that cheesy look and feel like the radio that came with my Thunder Quake.

The truck doesn't have very good stopping power but I still have some more work to do there. When I try to apply full brake, the linkage hits itself trying to get there... some adjustents should take care of that. The truck steers much better than I thought it would with a standard servo. The truck goes where you point it and doesn't labor to do so like a stock T-Maxx. Holding a straight line is a challenge though. Between the ballooning tires and the standard servos' inability to center quickly and accurately, I'll never hit top speed without spinning out and flipping LOL. I think locking the center diff will pretty much take care of that.

I think it's time all the p10m owners around here post some action pics! I'll have a bud take some action shots for me this weekend but until then, I'd like looking at everyone elses trucks!

[GTX]

I am gonna order mine soon. Did it come with the fuel too??

[Big Wig]

The aricles in RC Nitro and RCCA both said that the truck comes with fuel and a decaled body.... not mine. That's OK, I hate the Megatech fuel (I use the quart I have for cleaning) and putting decals on is no biggie.

It did come with that huge Ofna glow igniter though :D

[OmegaTrac]

I have to wait two weeks until I can pick one up at the LHS!

[theboy77]

I am considering the p10m as my next truck. Does anyone know if it's difficult to get aftermarket parts for this truck.I just don't want to buy something that can't be improved eventually.Also,where is the best deal found on the rtr version?

[bsballlyfe]

Hey all,
I have a monster pirate 10 with is the older version but it is just as good. I love it and i have done many upgrades to it cuz i have had it for a while. I upgraded the steering servos, shocks, a-arms, brake pad, and spur gear. I think it is maxed out now!!I'll try ang get some pics of it in action, yesterday i went off a 6ft jump and managed to get 15 ft without breaking a part!!It was amazing it flew like a bird lol. So if u have any questions i will try my best and answer them. Maybe i can get some pics posted of it going off the jump:D O ya i recommend this truck to anyone it is great even for first time r/c users.

Thank you,
Bsballlyfe

[theboy77]

Thanks. Hey does anybody know where I can order an rtr for a decent price?

[bsballlyfe]

Umm.... I found it for 350.00 at tower hobbies with the .21 engine

[Big Wig]

The one at Tower for $350 is the old Pirate 10 Stadium truck like bsballlyfe has. The new Pirate 10 Monster RTR is basically the same. It comes with bigger tires and offset wheels. I think I read that it has different suspension arms too but I'm not sure.

Nitrohouse sells the p10m RTR for $320 and so does Ultimate Hobbies. Stormer has them on their site for $300 but they are out of stock right now - that's a great deal! My LHS pays $323 for them!

Well, I spent some time with the p10m yesterday. I took it apart and locked the center diff and it's now a whole different truck! It accelerates harder and it's much easier to control. Before I got the truck I called Ofna to see if they had a center spool for it and the tech support guy was pissed! He said "... ever since RCCA ran that article and said the tires balloned up and you need to lock the center diff, everyone'ss been calling about it! The truck works great just the way it is..." The guy spent the next 5 minutes talking me into trying it stock before I locked it - so I did. Let me just tell you that the truck is much more fun after you lock the center diff.

I ran about 6 tanks through it yesterday and it was ripping! It doesn't seem to hike wheelies on command but I think that's a traction problem not a power problem... if you nail the throttle and the rear tires hook right up, the truck will flip right over backwards LOL. I fooled around with the linkage and I have the brakes working great now! If I lay on the brakes hard on the grass, the truck will flip over frontwards! I guess I have flipping covered ;) . My day ended with a broken rear hub carrier and a missing dog bone. It seemed to break pretty easily... I'll have to try to find aluminum ones ;)

bsballlyfe, do you know if the hop-ups for the Pirate 10 stadium truck will fit the new p10m? If so, there should be plenty of upgrades available. I can't wait to see pics of your truck!

[bsballlyfe]

I think they should because they didnt change much on the new pirate. The only differences that I know of are bigger tires, different shocks and a-arms, and a covered batery case. Thats all that I remember right now but Im pretty sure thats all. Umm back to ur question I would think that parts from the older pirate and newer pirate could be interchangeable except for the parts that are different. Im not positive so u might just have to try it with some cheap piece.

[R_C_MAN]

The new Pirate's hub carriers are also different. They also have a two speed for the Pirate. But it costs over $100!! They sell it at www.nitrohouse.com

[OmegaTrac]

BW: Can you explain how to lock the dif? omegatrac@dslexetreme.com

Can I put a rechargeable pack in the p10m?


Thanks

[bsballlyfe]

Hey,
Could u post that cuz its probably the same on the older pirate and I would like to try it out thanx

[R_C_MAN]

To lock the center diff you reverse a sun gear.

[DaMaXXer]

have u guys had proplems with this truck always breaking. I heard it was fragile? Is that true.

[bsballlyfe]

Some parts but once u upgrade it to alum. its fine

[Big Wig]

I've broken one front and one rear hub carrier on mine. These parts seem a little too brittle to me. Everything else has held up fine through some pretty wicked cartwheels.

There are no hop-ups available for this truck right now according to Nitrohouse. They did say that a lot of upgrades are being made right now they're just not here yet. I see myself getting aluminum hub carriers and rear CVA's (the fronts are different,... grrrr) as soon as they become available.

[JeffHo830]

Hi, what is the different between the Monster Pirate and the Pirate 10 Monster? Can you use the Monster Pirate's hop up parts on the Pirate 10 Monster? I'm new to the hobby and just finished building a TXT-1, but looking for a nitro truck to use as a all around fun truck (basher, jumper, racer and hill climber) and a truck with pretty low maintain cost? Also does both of these trucks have reverse? Thanks for the inputs in advance.

Jeff

[Big Wig]

The p10m is a 1/10 scale truck and the MP is 1/8 scale. They are very different. I doubt there are any interchangeable parts but I don't know this for a fact.

Neither truck has reverse. Maintenance is basically the same for any 4wd MT so you should choose the truck that fits you best.

[OmegaTrac]

Hey guys,
I just ordered my P10M about 20 minutes ago. I have it on WILL CALL so im going to pick it up on Tuesday next week. Anything I need to know about it? I have good expierence with nitro, as I race 1/10 nitro. Any special maintenance since its 4wd?

[Big Wig]

Since you're experienced with nitro, there's really nothing new to tell you.... the usual; loc-tite every fastener that threads into metal, re-check your drive cups after the first few runs, check your throttle linkages - mine were way off out of the box... all the usual nitro stuff. If you plan to lock the center diff, you should run it first so you can appreciate how much of an improvement it makes. What was Ofna thinking putting a center diff in this truck? At least give us a sealed diff so we can pour 100k wt silicone oil in it!

good luck with the truck! It's no racer but it's a lot of fun :D

[OmegaTrac]

What do you mean the linkage was off. What do you do to correct it?


I actually just picked my truck up this morning. I havent run it yet, but looked it over. On my truck, the head of the engine is purple instead of black. Ill get some pics when I break it in.

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
Just got in from "trying" to break it in. Ran for a little while, now wont start. I dont have to say that the motor was reallllly tight. After a few starts it wasnt bad. I need to know where you needles were set for break in. As of now, my dad and I are stumped.


Thanks

[Possumbot]

first a 2speed for the 7.5, now a 2-speed for the p10m, im waiting for the 8 speed for a serpent veteq.

[fezzy]

Omega, the Hyper21 setting are quite way off and its no wonder it wont start, the Hyper21 is also a .21 Motor with ALOT of compression, many think this is because of the impeller which is 'supposed add more power' Anyway, a friend of mine recommended these settings and you should get it started with them but if its not rich enough richen it up abit more on the high end. Good Luck

Set the low speed needle at 3 turns out from flush (screw head and needle casing are flush with each other) and set the high speed needle at 5 turns out from fully in (do not tighten).

[Big Wig]

Omega,

My throttle linkage just wasn't adjusted properly. At full throttle, the slide was maybe 1/2 open and I had no brakes. It's not often an RTR comes set up correctly.

Try the setting fezzy suggested and if you still have trouble, lean the high end needle a little at a time until it starts and runs. Go clockwise the distance of one hour on a clock each time. If the pull starter gets very hard to tug, you're probably hydrolocked - remove the glow plug and pull it over several time to get the fuel out of the engine.

Ofna's suggested break in settings are a joke, my engine wouldn't even run until I leaned it out quite a bit. Even then it was so rich that I couldn't get enough RPM for the clutch to engage so I had to lean it out even more to be able to drive it around.

I've had a lot of nitro engines but this is my first experience with the Hyper. It seems like a great mill but it also seems very finicky until is completely broken in.

Remember, you can always get a nitro engine to start - you need good glow and the right air/fuel mixture. As long as you can determine whether your settings are too rich or too lean, you will be able to adjust accordingly.

Don't give up! If you find you're still having trouble, post again.

good luck
Jay

[OmegaTrac]

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This stupid thing wont DO ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST WHEN WE GOT IT TO RUN TOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzz this is the WORST expierence with a nitro engine ever!

So,
We just got it to run, and drive around. But then, I brought it in, and the batteries must have been dieing. Because the motor revs up, and wouldnt come back down. Next thing we new the gears in the center are eaten up! I think was caused this, is that when the motor did this, we had to touch the flywheel to get it to die. But, then my Dad starts it up again, and when it does the same thing, he pinned it to the ground and the motor was still revving uncontrollably! So I think that is what ate up the gears. So, now I have to order new parts! GEEZ.

Worst expierence we have had with Nitro Break in! Should this be under warranty, to get new parts? How much does the gear cost?



THANK YOU!!!!!!!

[rccarkilla]

Whoa! Omega, sounds like you've had a tough time with that thing!

However, always remember to check the carb opening before you run you car (take off the air filter). If this is too big, then obviously it will allow more air to get into the engine, causing it to rev up higher than it should at idle.

As Big Wig said, the linkage was way off on his truck when he got it. This is probably the same problem you're having. You've got to adjust the linkage to allow both the brake and throttle work correctly. Don't run it until you have sorted it out.

=chris=

[Big Wig]

Omega,

How's it going? Have you got your problems straightened out yet?

I just got my parts in the mail yesterday and the truck is back together - I can't wait until aluminum hub carriers become available!

I will run the truck this afternoon at a huge track... I'll let you all know how it goes.

Jay

[Big Wig]

Well, I ran the p10m today. I got it tuned just right and it was hiking wheelies on command! :D

I found another weak link in the truck though - The tie rods that go from the steering knuckles to the bellcranks use captured ball ends which is cool, but.... the bellcrank end hits the center driveshaft when you turn to full lock! The setscrew holding the drive cup on protrudes just a wee bit and it chewed right through the ball cups! It should be against the law to sell a RTR nitro vehicle with a radio with no endpoint adjustments! Oh well, I screwed some regular ball studs into the bellcranks and added RPM ballcups to the tie rods and I'm running again.

This is a cool truck but there are some issues to be ironed out. I guess I could say the same thing about any of my RC vehicles ;)

Happy p10m'ing ;)

[Big Wig]

Has anyone tried a different body on the p10m? I think I want mine to look like a monster truck rather than a stadium truck. I was thinking about putting an F150 body made for the Stampede on it... what do you think? Any pics?

Would anyone be interested in a center spool for the p10m? I am planning to make one for mine and if there seems to be interest I'll buy extra material.... then after a good thrash test I'll make more.

Happy p10m'ing ;)

[DaMaXXer]

I am eciding whether to get the P10 orthe hyper 7 rtr. What do u think is the better deal for the money

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
I havent even touched my P10M sense last Saturday. I havent even bought a new spur yet. After I get the new spur, something else will get screwed up. I still dont think my linkage is right because I dont have much brake. I will probally also take the air filter off and check that the carb flap is working correctly.

BigWig: do your front tires have a lot of camber in them? Mine seem to. I was just wondering if it was suposed to be like this or not? Also, did you have to adjust the steering linkages? What are your needle settings now?


I will get this thing fixed very very soon. I know this question is stupid, but, is the center diff located where the spur is? Cause I need to get it locked.

Thanks!

Keep on P10M'n!

[Big Wig]

Omega, my front wheels had excessive camber out of the box. I ran it like that for awhile but I've since adjusted it to around 1/2 degree camber (as best as I could with my camber gauge). I also run as close to zero degrees of front toe in as I can.

For my steering, I just made a trim adjustment to get the truck to run straight.

My needle settings are 2 1/2 out on the high and 1 turn out from flush on the low... I don't touch the mid-range needle. I hate to share needle settings though since these settings could be way off for your engine, even if you run at the same elevation, temp, and humidity as me. Start rich and slowly lean it out until it rips! You'll get there.

You didn't take the air filter off and check your throttle linkage before you ran the truck? I definitely suggest you do it now. Just fool around with the linkage until you have the slide all the way closed (against idle stop) when you release the trigger and all the way open when you clamp the trigger. For braking, I loosened the set screw that holds the arm that actually pulls the pads closed. I slid it up a little making it longer to give that weak little servo more leverage. When I apply full brake, it's possible to actually flip the truck over frontwards!

Go over your truck with a fine toothed comb. Make sure everything is just right before you run it. Start with the factory suggested needle settings and gradually lean it out to get it to run. Remeber, don't be afraid to lean it out, you'll do more harm than good to your engine by running it blubbering rich. It needs to get up to 180 - 200 degrees or so to break in properly.

Once you get your parts and get the p10m running right, you'll have a blast with it. IMHO, the p10m is great fun on the lawn or semi-smooth dirt. It's a speed machine and it's fun to throw roost and hike wheelies. It doesn't seem to like a harsh thrashing too much.... little truck, big power!

Happy p10m'ing ;)

[OmegaTrac]

Im going to buy my part either today or tomorrow at the lhs. I will start at where I am now in tuning, and go from there. When I first got it, i did take the air filter off to check it, but it must need some more fine tunning.

I just couldnt figure out why the thing had so much camber. But, it seemed to work ok so I just left it.


I'll keep ya posted!

[Big Wig]

Omega,

I'm sorry I missed your post on page 1 when you asked how to lock the center diff.

Here's a web site with some pics... it's real easy. http://student.csumb.edu/dh/davidsonzackr/world/Pirate/center.shtml

[OmegaTrac]

Thank you, BW.

Exactly where is the center diff?

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
I just got my new part I needed. I had the option of the plastic gear or the steel gear. I decided to go with the steel gear, just because I had a steel gear in my GT a never had a problem. LOL, sorry for that last post asking where the center diff is, its behind the spur. I didnt lock it yet. Since, the motor is still doing breakin, i wouldnt have been able to tell the difference anyway.


We got the linkage set up correctly too, we will just need to adjust the brake linkage. Got the motor to finaly run as well! I can already tell that this truck will be amazing.





Keep P10M'n!

[Big Wig]

Omega, sounds like you're on the right track! Keep us posted!

Happy p10m'ing ;)

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
Thanks for your help and advice! Going to a race track tomorrow, to see what happens.


The MAXX has no CHANCE! lol

I am going to adjust that camber before we leave!

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
Just got back, had another bad day with my P10M!

Front diff is completely shot. The whole drive train might be shot as well. I was driving it on the track, pull it into the pits. Then it happened. I turned my radio off, and then it had a radio interference and revved out of control again! So, my Dad pinned it to the ground and shut it off. When I got down to the pit area, we found the front diff was shot. We havent had a close look yet, so there might be more damage. The motor ran good tho.

But, I have found out that this truck is no racer. Still an excellent truck.

2 out of 3 times ive run it, its broken. Dunno what to do.

[Big Wig]

Dude! You turned your radio off with the switch in your truck still on - and your truck running? !!!!!!!!! Not good!

It's hard to kill those planetary gear diffs so the truck must have been going mental.

I'm sorry you're having so much bad luck with the p10m! It really isn't a great truck for the track... it's kind of a handful. I have a lot of fun just bashing around the yard with mine... I love the power ;)

Go over the truck real good, I doubt it will cost much to fix. Try to use extreme care when running the truck - when you make a mistake, a truck this insane will punish you for it. I can hit a jump on my nephew's BMX track WIDE OPEN throttle with his T-Maxx. If I hit the same jump WIDE OPEN throttle with the p10m, it would end up in the next state. If a T-Maxx runs away, it will hit something and break. If a p10m runs away, it will hurt anything in its path, then dig a hole in the ground when you pin it down.

Don't give up, p10m's rule

Happy p10m'ing ;)

[OmegaTrac]

Hey BigWig,
I just wanted to head to the track just to see first hand whats it like on the track. Man, that thing is a handful. I noticed that when it jumps, it likes to point the front end in the air! I had pulled the truck in and turned the radio off, thinking that my dad had a hold on my truck. I do it with my other trucks and dont really have a problem. I really hope that this fix will be cheap.


At least I got some VERY fast laps in with my XXXNT.


When the truck goes mental, should it be pinned to the ground and then shut down? Or is there a better way?

Do you know what type of grease I should put back in the diff?

[Big Wig]

Even if your Dad has a good hold on the truck, never turn your radio off while your Rx is still getting juice - BAD things can and will happen.

If your truck goes mental, you kind of have to pin it to the ground just to keep it under control. Try to hurry up and get a rag or something over the stinger. If that's not an option, I've taken a plastic handled screwdriver and stopped the flywheel from under the truck - be careful, when you lift the truck to do this, the wheels will be spinning wildly - work fast! Holding the truck down and plugging the stinger is probably the safest way.

Also, when you hold your truck down like that, your clutch takes a beating. Remove it and see how it looks.

For grease, I use Bel Ray waterproof grease. You can pick it up at any dirt bike shop. It's pretty thick stuff, great for diffs.

Happy p10m'ing ;)
Jay

[Big Wig]

Oh yeah, if you do turn off your radio and your truck goes nuts - turn the radio back on! :D

[OmegaTrac]

Well,
This looks like it had to have been my fault. Stupid me. I might luck out tho, because something was wrong with it when I pulled in. I only had 2 wheel drive.


Again, thank you.

[OmegaTrac]

Just had a question real quick, does this thing have a throttle return spring?

[Big Wig]

Nope, but it wouldn't hurt to add one.

[OmegaTrac]

How would I go about adding one? I dont know if that weak little server could handle it?

[Big Wig]

Well, I'm not the best one to answer that question since I don't run them - I should though and I promise to start soon! ;)

You just need to hook one end of the spring to a solid object and the other end to the servo horn. You want a spring strong enough to pull the servo but weak enough so it won't strain it when it operates. Like I said, I don't have any experience with return springs but it might be tough with a standard servo; the servo only has 40 oz/in of torque but when it's off, it's not real easy to rotate by hand... this sounds like a bad scenario for a return spring. Experiment and see what you can come up with. Most of my vehicles (not the p10m yet) have a 5625 throttle servo. This is a great candidate for a return spring. It has 97 oz/in of torque but when it's off it turns like butter... sweet!


Good luck

Happy p10m'ing
Jay

[djsides27]

Well Big Wig, because of your recomendations, my brother and I just went half and half on a P10M. :D I do have a question for ya tho, I like having different rims and tires for my RC, do you know of any tires and or wheels that can be switched with the ones that come stock on the P10M? Thanks for the recomendation and for helping me with my tire and wheel issues.

[Big Wig]

djsides27,

Congrats on the p10m! I'm sorry, but I haven't looked into any other tire and wheel choices for the p10m. They look like 2.2 truck wheels... I wonder if something made for the Stampede will fit? It would be worth checking out.

I kinda like the wheels and tires that come stock so I haven't put much thought into it. Let us know what you find out!

good luck.

Happy p10m'ing ;)

[djhoudek]

I just sold my tmaxx and purchased the p10m, I should be getting it in tomorrow. I've been using blue thunder fuel 20%.What kind of fuel do you recomend on the p10m?

[Big Wig]

I use BT 20% in my p10m... and in all my other nitro engines. I've had very good luck with it.

[OmegaTrac]

Nice to here another P10M'er out there. Good Luck with it. Just dont make stupid mistakes like i did :p

[Big Wig]

Omega, how's the p10m running? I haven't run mine much lately - I've been racing my GT a lot and I just bought a 9.5 pro too!

I do have plans for the p10m though. I plan to drop a couple of 645 servos in and get an al650 pipe for it. Before I run it again I will be getting a f150 Stampede body for it too... I can't wait!

Happy p10m'ing :D

[OmegaTrac]

My P10M is still busted. I havent even looked at it to see whats broken on it. It may be a week or two more before anything gets done with it. Tell us how that body fits on the p10m. Are thos Airtronics Servos? Where can I get that pipe from?

[djhoudek]

hey, i just got my p10m in and went over it and yeah the linkage and carb settings are way off.Im concerened with the braking,it seems i cant get the brakes to engage very good at all and i dont want to start it up with no brakes can anyone help?

[Big Wig]

Lengthen the lever that pulls the brakes by loosening the set screw and sliding it out a bit... this will give the weak little servo more leverage. Just be sure to adjust the collars so that you only have just the braking you need. You don't want the servo constantly pulling an immovable object, you'll smoke it quick! Even with the wimpy stock servo, I can get my p10m to stop very well... it will flip over frontwards on the grass :D

good luck
Jay

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
When and If I keep having problems, the P10M is hittin the bricks if you know what I mean.

[djhoudek]

O.K. here it is I just ran about 4 tanks thru for break in and i started lean it out using the main needle but the clutch still doesnt catch.If i rev it to high it dies i didnt mess with the idle or low end needle .Question is which one does what exactly?

[moorerc]

hello, I've decided to get a P10M, and since my lhs doesn't carry OFNA parts, i was wondering what parts break first. I want to order them up with my P10M. I was think of getting spare arms all around, metal center driveshafts, and metal spur gear. Would it be worthwhile to get these? And what part numbers are they? Because Ace-Hobbies parts page is confusing, as it's for the old version, and there are no pictures.

[timmygreek]

I just bought one of these and I'm having trouble keeping it running. It runs for about 3 seconds then it feels like the pull start catches at the bottom and the engine stops. Is this normal (It's my first pull start,the other nitro's I had where from traxxas)?
thanks!

[Speedy pede2]

big wig- have you measured the wheel hubs yet? I'm almost sold on gettin this truck over a TQ because I want insane power :)

My other concern is it's jumping ability...How well is the supension? Does it need some major tweeking?

How long do you p10m owners think it will be untill some hop-ups come out? I'd really like to see a metal disk brake and complete metal axles...That reminds me are the axles really plastic?

Anyone have a special p10m site? or know of a place with some more pics of them?

-I can't wait to get this truck

[djhoudek]

I noticed sometimes the linkage from the braking set up could interfere or bind up in the clutchbell, if so just theres a allen screw that holds up the linkage just raise it a little.Hope this helps.

[timmygreek]

Thanks. I forgot to post last night. I got the truck running (the carb settings in the manual just flat out stink!), went threw all the break in and found out what everyone is talking about with the center diff. I coulden't even control the truck at half-throtle(I almost nailed my buddy who was helping me at the time :eek: ) I wonder if the slipper cultch that they are putting in the Dominator would fit?

I went out today to finish the burn in process (after I fixed the diff,btw thanks for posting the links:D ) and figured out that I only had front wheel drive!!! When I got it inside I figured out that my setscrew on the rear of the diff was in wrong (I hate setscrews). It was dark by the time I fixed everything so I guess I see how it runs tomorrow.

[djhoudek]

whats the easiest way to remove the center diff to lock it im in the process of tearing the whole thing apart?

[timmygreek]

Sorry man, the only way I konw is to take off the upper deck then take the screws out of the bottom,the pull the driveshafts (?) out. Just be sure when you put it all back together put the diff back together you put it back in right (it's marked, I missed it at first).

[N-Pede madness]

post your pics or videos i am thinking about getting one and whats the tire size???

[lowtrac]

I ordered my P10M last week. It's supposed to be delivered to my LHS on Wednesday. I can't wait. Does anybody know what size bodies will work? Will normal 10th scale stuff work? Also, I'm looking for some pictures that show scale. I've seen the ones posted here and they're helpful, but I don't really have a good feel for how big it is. A couple of friends of mine have T-Maxxen. How does it compare?

James

[t-maxxismonster]

the only place I've seen it online is stormer hobbies and it's out of stock:( . can you give me a link to an online shop that sells it I can't find it on nitro house or ultimate hobbies either
And how long is it going to be before ofna updates their site!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

[lowtrac]

www.ace-hobbies.com They're listing it for $299.99, but my LHS went $325, so it was just a little more than Ace's price + shipping.

James

[lowtrac]

Well, I got my P10M Wednesday. The T-Maxx guys at the hobby shop seemed impressed. I thought they might give me some crap about it. Anyway, I stickered the body Wednesday night and started the break-in Thursday morning. I had some problems though, some typical, some I hadn't heard before. The front tire hits the pipe when steering full left, the rear a-arm hits the header when fully compressed, the wheels were mounted backwards, and the alignment was WAY off. I just eyeballed it and it looks a lot better. The engine is very tight. The major problem I had was after running a full tank through it, I broke the pull starter. Rope and spring. I know I pulled it too far, but it's hard not to because the engine is so tight. Anyway, I haven't been able to find any good compairison shots anywhere on the 'net, so I took some next to a friend of mine's T-Maxx. Here 'ya go... Click on the thumbs for a bigger image.

Here's my P10M and a T-Maxx with the bodies swapped. The T-Maxx body fits, but the body mount holes are a little off. An uncut Maxx body would fit fine, with a little trimming and body post adjustments.
http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/p10maxxbody1_thumb.jpg (http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/p10maxxbody1.jpg)
You can see from this shot that the Maxx body is a little longer than the Pirate's. It looks a little funny to me.

http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/p10maxxbody2_thumb.jpg (http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/p10maxxbody2.jpg)

Here's a shot showing the ground clearance difference. Both trucks have completly stock suspensions, but the Maxx has aluminum bulkheads and shock towers.

http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/clearance_thumb.jpg (http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/clearance.jpg)

A shot from the top showing wheelbase, and width differences. Notice the difference in head size between the Hyper .21 and the TRX Pro .15.

http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/fromthetop_thumb.jpg (http://home.lgc.edu/james/pirate10/fromthetop.jpg)

I have the truck at work with me today, so if anybody wants pictures of something let me know.

James

[Allen T]

James,

I'm in the Army, stationed in Germany. I want to get a P10m from Ace Hobbies. Did the one you got from your LHS have the fuel with it? I've seen posts from big wig saying that no fuel came with the one he got. (which is fine by me.....)

I'm almost positive the fuel can't be shipped Priority Mail to the "APO" address. (which is in NY) That's my only worry on ordering. (fuel) And I seriously doubt that anyone working at Ace Hobbies would pull the fuel out of the box, so they can ship it "legally".

Thanks for posting the pics....

Allen

[lowtrac]

It didn't come with fuel. It came with the painted body, a glow starter, and a fuel bottle. I haven't figured out what the deal is with the fuel. Some people get it, and some don't.

James

[bcrc10gt]

well i just read this whole thread, and the truck sound sweet, im going to trade in my rc10gt and rolling stampede and buy this maybe from my lhs, or, i could sell both my rcs and buy it for 299 and get it shipped to canada, but i am buying this thing, it sounds like a crazy truck, with easy fixes, thanx guys

big wig u got msn?

[bcrcer]

big wig could u take a picture of your brake and trottle settings, hopefully mine come fine, but id like to see your perfect set up

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
I dont know what has happened to Big Wig, he hasnt been on this thread for a long time. I would also like to see his brake/throttle settings. Yeah, the manual settings are no where in the ballpark. Mine required a good amount of tweaking of the settings.

Does anyone know if OFNA makes a fail safe for the P10M? I would really like to add one.

I have MSN Messenger, my account is chrisspeed130@hotmail.com

[lowtrac]

Ace-Hobbies has an Ofna fail safe (made by Airtronics). It's not P10M specific, but I'm guessing it'll work. Check it out HERE (http://www.ace-hobbies.com/Images/Airtronics/failsafe.html).

James

[OmegaTrac]

Does anyone know how to install one of these units? It looks quite large, I dont know where you would put the unit.

[lowtrac]

Check THIS (http://www.rccaraction.com/rc/articles/ofna95.asp) out. The fail safe is pretty small. You could probably use some servo tape and attach it to the top of the radio/battery box.

James

[OmegaTrac]

You are right. That fail safe unit is very small. It should work with no problems. The Pic at the Ace Hobbies site made the unit seem larger. Thanks

[bcrcer]

im going to buy the failsafe as well, its a very good investment, i hate seing my rc10gt go full speed into the bush

[lowtrac]

I got the replacement pull-start in yesterday (finally). I put the truck back together and putted around a little. I'm going to start leaning it out tonight. The engine is a LOT more loose now. It's way easier to crank.

James

[lowtrac]

I started leaning it out last night, and it's really fast. A lot faster than my RS4. I did flip it in the street and broke a rear upper shock mount. It's just a long screw and two nuts though so I snagged one from a friends toolbox and it's all good. Is anybody reading this thread, or am I talking to myself?

James

[timmygreek]

I hear ya! I'm waiting for parts to come in from nitrohouse (only 2500 miles away :o ) . When you run these give them a lot of room!!!! Otherwise you could run into a curb the first time you get on the gas and break the rear upright and bend the axle:mad:

[djhoudek]

Yeah, were all still here.I'm waiting to see what kind of hop ups or goodies i can get for it.I really love this truck its a blast, i must have rolled it over backwards a dozen times from pulling wheelies.Never had that problem with my tmaxx,but i sure aint complaining.Raced the neighbors kid with his gokart and smoked him!Keep p10ming!!!!

[lowtrac]

Cool! I didn't get a chance to play last night, but I will tonight. I work with a couple of guys with T-Maxxes and we're planning on "doing lunch" tomorrow. We'll see how that goes. I'm going to try to tune the low speed needle a little tonight to get that throttle responce right. I'm not pulling wheelies yet, but it's getting there...

James

[lowtrac]

I'm waiting on some hopups too. Ofna's new (it's about time) website has a link for P10M options, but it's broken right now. I'm keeping my eyes open. Also, my kit came with some instructions for the Pirate 10 Evolution. Is this the buggy that the P10M is based on? If so, I wonder if any option parts are available for that kit and if they would work?

James

[Promod]

I've had my Pirate 10 on order form Ace Hobbies for three weeks. I called them today and they said it should be in tomorrow. But I'm not holding my breath. I can't wait to pull the trigger on that monster.
Thank you,
Promod

[lowtrac]

You're going to enjoy it. A few pointers...

Check your throttle/brake linkages. My throttle was good, but I had no brakes.

DON'T OVEREXTEND THE PULL-START! I broke mine the first day and it took a week and a half to get a replacement. The Hyper .21 is very tight when it's new.

The suspension setup was all out of whack, and the wheels were mounted backwards when I took it out of the box.

Make sure you have plenty of room to play. This thing covers a lot of ground fast.

James

[lowtrac]

I broke the spur gear last week. More like blew it apart actually. I've had the engine out a couple of times, and I think it shifted a little during a crash. I was running sans-body doing some tuning and I came off a jump and it flipped over backwards and the head hit the ground. I flipped it back over and it wouldn't move. I ordered the Ofna steel gear, and it's supposed to be here today. Maybe I can get it back together tonight. I also locked the center diff while I had it out so we'll see how that does. While I had it torn down, I replaced the wheel nuts with some from HPI. I like the HPI nuts a lot better because there is a shoulder on them so they don't fall down into my nut driver when I put them on. I also re-positioned the shocks so I get a little more ground clearance. Has anybody tried any other bodies yet? I've been looking at the bodies for the HPI Nitro MT. I think they might work.

James

[Promod]

Lowtrac, thank you for the information. I did buy a second pullstarter for the hyper and I have a starter box. I will post when I get the truck.
Thank you,
Promod

[t-maxxismonster]

ofna finally updated their web site:D :D :D

[fezzy]

Lowtrac, i am abit of a lurker here but i am an OFNA Monster Nut (Dominator Owener). I have been asking myself if the P10M Shell will fit my NMT and since you ask if the NMT shells will fit the P10M it seems like i should share my info. I do believe the shells will fit each other quite nicely, what i would strongly recommend to you though is to forget about NMT Bodies, they are FAR too thin.... Thus why i want a P10M Shell which is quite alot thicker, the NMT shells are like PAPER thin and my shell is basically in pieces (almost split in half) and is being held together with duct tape, and no... It hasn't got like that over time but in one day with just 2 or 3 rolls.

[lowtrac]

Man, that sucks. I looked at an NMT body (the hummer looking one) at my LHS this weekend, and it looks like it would fit fine, so the P10M shell should work on your NMT. I looked at Tower, and they show the Ofna bodies for the 1/8 scale stuff, but not the 1/10. Maybe they'll start selling them soon.

Thanks for the info,
James

[lowtrac]

I took some pictures this weekend while I was replacing my spur gear. They turned out pretty bad because of low light I think. Anyway, here's a picture of my P10M next to a Coke can.

James

http://home.lagrange.edu/james/pirate10/cropped_small.jpg

[lowtrac]

Here's a link to a Korean hobby shop with some pictures of the P10M. The steering servo saver is a little different from mine, and the body is silver.



Check it out (http://www.kabsanhobby.co.kr/hobaopiratert.asp)

[Nitro Power Kid]

This is nitro power kids brother. my dad, and brother have ofna nitro cars, and i have a team associated electric and am looking into getting a nitro monster truck. i can get a pirate 10 rtr at ace-hobbies.com for $299. my dad says thats a steal. its seems to be a pretty cool truck. plz try to give me some hlp in deciding what to get. thnx:D

[Nitro Power Kid]

my dad says it wouldnt do to well on a dirt track because it has so much power that it would jst spin the tires.

[lowtrac]

IMO, the P10M isn't built for racing. Your dad is right, I can't see it getting much traction on a race track. Locking the center diff helps though. I wouldn't recommend this truck to someone that's new to nitro, but since your family are already in the hobby I'm sure they'll help you out. ;) Seriously, if you want a competitive racer I'd look at something else. If you're just interested in having some fun jumping/rolling/flipping etc... the Pirate is the way to go. The $299 from Ace is the best price I've seen. I went ahead and ordered from my LHS because he went $325, and I wasn't sure what the shipping from Ace was going to be.

James

[Promod]

I just got my Pirate 10 last week. I took the hyper out and installed an OFNA Delta 8 port (2.6 hp) and an RB 086 pipe. I also installed a Futaba 3PDF radio with Hitec servos.
The truck is great it handles well and is a great value for the price.
I just ordered an RB concept C5 for the truck. Is there a two speed made for this truck?
Thank you,
Promod

[lowtrac]

That's pretty cool. I've been looking at that Delta for a while. It looks like a nice engine. I'm sure it'll be crazy with that much horsepower. As for the 2-speed, Ofna makes 2 of them for the older Pirates that *should* work. There's an aluminum based one and a plastic based one. I would definately recommend the aluminum. Why did you decide to change the engine anyway? Post some pictures if you have some. I'd like to see it.

James

[OmegaTrac]

Hey,
My P10M is still sittin in my garage waitin to be fixed. My dad and I just have no desire to fix it. Every time we drive it we always have bad experiences. I dunno what to do with it. Im thinking of just puttin it up for sale. Anyone interested? If anyone is interested I will get it fixed.

[Promod]

Lowtrac, the reason that I took the hyper was because I wanted something faster. Even the Delta 8 port isn't fast enuf. That's why I ordered the RB C5. I guess my 24 cell brushless E-maxx has me spoiled. If you can't tell by now I'm a speed freak. I'm getting a digital camera shortly and I will be posting some pictures.
Omegatrac, what keeps breaking on your truck? I have three quarts of fuel through mine so far and no trouble yet. I did notice the back plastic drive shaft is twisting.
Thank you,
Promod

[lowtrac]

Omegatrac,

How much are you thinking about asking? I've got a couple of folks that may be interested. What color is the body, what's broken on it, etc.?

James

[OmegaTrac]

Hey lowtrac,

My truck is only 2-3months old, and has only had 7-10 tanks run through it including break-in. I have the RED body mounted on the truck. It also has the steel spur gear installed. The only thing it needs is to have the front diff rebuilt. I will have this fixed if someone wants to buy it.


I would sell for maybe $275? $250? Price is negotciable.

[Promod]

I called Ace today about the two speed from the old pirate. They said it will work but is not very strong. The power of the .21 would destroy it in a short time. So I didn't order it. I wish OFNA would step up to the plate and make a good two speed for the pirate. The Monster pirate has an optional two speed availible. Are those problematic also?
Thank you,
Promod

[MaxxHead]

I have been into nitro trucks for 2 1/2 years and I have never had so much trouble with a truck. This Pirate 10 is driving me crazy. First off the needle settings in the manual are a joke, mine will not even think about starting. I now have the needles at 3 turns on the high and flush on the low, that is the only way I can get it to start. But it won't pull out, it boggs down like its too rich. I dont want to go too lean. I have ran six tanks through it. Please give me some suggestions.

[Nitro Power Kid]

Don't give up, the Hyper 21 is a great motor and yes the settings in the manual are way off. Sounds like your high speed needle is ok, try leaning out the low end 1/4 turn at a time. You will know as you start to get close. Don't mess with the mid-speed needle it is factory set at flush and will give you problems if you tweek it. I have the Hyper 21 in my Monster Pirate and it rocks.
The Monster Pirate 2-speed is reliable until you upgrade to a much more powerful 21, then you need to go with the metal gears.
NPK's dad

[MaxxHead]

Thanks Kid, I'll give it a try shortly.

[MaxxHead]

Hey Kid, I got it movin'. The low needle is 1 turn in from flush and high is 2 turns. If I had of thrown away the manual before I started, I would have been better off. He He :)

[Nitro Power Kid]

hey ive decided to go wit the p10m. its fast, reliable, and has a whole lot of cool anodized aluminum, for cheap.i am planning on selling my ae at the end of the year to get money for it. :)
thnx for the hlp
:D

[lowtrac]

Cool. You'll enjoy it. Just make sure you save up some money to replace broken stuff. I would recommend ordering the steel spur gear when you order the truck.

Promod...

Not only did my rear drive shaft twist this weekend, it broke. It twisted and snapped right at the end where it swells out. The only thing I can find to replace them with are the stock ones, so I'm getting some machined out of aluminum. My kit came with an assembly manual for the Pirate 10 Evolution buggy, which uses dogbones and differently designed drive cups for the center drives. I wonder if those'll work? The buggy chassis/drive train is almost identical to the P10M.

James

[Promod]

Hi Lowtrac, I was also wondering if a dog bone from another truck could be made to work on the rear. My front shaft looks great. I'm getting close to the one gallon mark and the rear shaft it still holding on. If I only have to replace it every gallon I won't cry about that.
The more I run this truck the better I like it. The P10 is a great value for the money. I can't understand why more people are not interested in this truck.
Nitro power kid, you have make a great choice in the P10. It is a great little truck.
Thank you,
Promod

PS. My wife is complaining because the P10 is ripping all the grass out of the yard!!!!!!!!

[OmegaTrac]

Lowtrac, did you read my post, the last page back about the info on my P10M?

[lowtrac]

Yeah, I saw it. I don't think anybody around here is interested though. I understand about being frustrated though. I've been there. :) The only problem I can see with you selling it is that when new ones are available for $299, you're not going to be able to get much for it.

Good luck,
James

[lowtrac]

I emailed Ofna this morning about the center drive issues... Here's what I sent:

I bought a P10M a few months ago, and have really had fun with it. The only problems I've had have been a broken pull-start (that Hyper .21 was tight! I over-extended the string), a broken spur gear (replaced with the steel spur), and now a twisted/broken rear drive shaft. I was looking through the assembly manual for the Pirate 10 Evolution that came with my kit and noticed that it used dogbones for the center drives. I was wondering if the drive cups and dogbones for the Evo would work on the P10M, and if they're even available anymore. Also, is there any special reason the shafts were made out of plastic? Do you guys have plans to offer steel/aluminum center drives for the P10M? Your new website looks much better BTW. Any help or comments would be appreciated.
Here's the response I got:
Try ordering the parts from nitrohouse.com at 800-928-0304
No period, no name, no useful information. This pisses me off.

James

[OmegaTrac]

Well,
I would really like to get rid of this P10m. I bought without even doing my homework, which is never a good thing. Its just not my type of truck, if ya know what I mean. The truck is in great shape, I just need to fix a part and its perfect. Never run at a full tune, still rich from break in. Still so rich that it does not balloon the tires.

Maybe ill get at least $225? New $299.99 plus tax plus shipping your lookin at $320.

[lowtrac]

One of the guys here at work says he may be interested if you'd agree to pay for shipping. We're in Georgia. Let me know, and I'll pass the info along. You can email me privately if you want to.

lowtrac@msn.com

James

[lowtrac]

I sent Ofna a pretty rude email after the not-so-informative one I got from them about the P10M drive shafts. I got a reply from an "Angel C" this morning and she said that the drive cups and dogbones from the Pirate 10 Evolution will work, so if my custom shafts don't work out I'll go with the Evo parts if I can find some. I don't think Ofna sells them anymore. Tower has some in stock though.

James

[OmegaTrac]

Hey lowtrac.

Just scent you an emial. Look for an email from theSASman@clancmc.com


thanks

[t-maxxismonster]

how hard is it to turn over the hyper 21? cause I had trouble starting my duratrax .16 and I don't want to get a truck that I can't start:(
and ever ofna car has a hop up site except the p10m (oh this makes me very angry) marvin the martion:D

[lowtrac]

Out of the box, the Hyper .21 was vary tight. It took a while to get loosened up. Now, I can just about pull the starter without touching the truck. I usually just hold it down with a back tire though. It normally takes about 4 pulls to get started. As for the availability of hop-ups, I feel your pain. I broke my rear drive shaft last week and I'm getting one machined out of aluminium because nobody makes any, and Ofna only has plastic...

[Nitro Power Kid]

hey im gonna order mine soon, and am kinda anxious to see some videos of the p10m. so if any of u could make one and post thnx:D

[Promod]

Nitro Kid I can make one. I will try to make one tomorrow night and post it.
Thank you,
Promod

[Nitro Power Kid]

go to the ofna website! they came out with a 40cc scooter. that was very unexpected. :eek:

[Promod]

Nitro Power kid, here is a picture and a short video of my P10. Just follow the link. The first two movies are of my E-maxx the third movie is the P10. PLEASE READ you most click on the movie and than click "or, to download the video to your PC in its orginal format". Thats the only way I can get them to play. I hope you like it.
Thank you,
Promod

http://www.imagestation.com/album/index.html?id=4291482041

[lowtrac]

Here's the only video I have of mine. I have some more on tape, but I haven't captured them yet... The picture is one of a few I took after some "body mods". I cut out the grille openings, the driver's side window, the big section from the back, and relocated the antenna opening.

James



Flip (http://home.lagrange.edu/james/pirate10/flip.wmv)

http://home.lagrange.edu/james/pirate10/front.jpg

[Nitro Power Kid]

thats pretty cool lowtrac. did u see that other forum with a new $1400 ofna?:eek: thats insane if u ask me. nm my pops answered. its just a dom wit cnc hop ups:)

[Nitro Power Kid]

Hey, anyone got more vids?

[GTX]

So how are the P10M's? Do they hold up well in stock form???

[Promod]

Mine is holding up well. I have over 1 gallon of fuel through mine. The only parts I have broken are one front CVD(due to flipping) and the rear plastic drive shaft. I do have a more powerful motor than stock(an ofna 8 port)
Thank you,
Promod

[GTX]

Do they come with those new 8 ports?

[Promod]

I got mine from Ace hobbies and it had the 8 port purple head hyper. But the motor I have is an Ofna Delta 8 port (2.6HP).
Thank you,
Promod

[moorerc]

www.trilordy.com download the thirsty_turtle file. it's 100MB but very cool. (hope you don't have 56k :p )

[GTX]

I already have it and have already seen it too bro.

[GTX]

Oh yeah, and I am on CABLE!!!!

[lowtrac]

I've broken the plastic spur gear, pull start, and rear plastic drive. The pull start was my fault, well, I guess the others are too, but at least the truck was running when the other stuff broke. I'm still waiting for my aluminium drive shaft...

James

[GTX]

ouch.............

[Nitro Power Kid]

I have cable internet too but it still take along time. its been like 25 min and only 22% done. but it is 9 min long:)

[Nitro Power Kid]

it stopped loading......

[Nitro Power Kid]

its working now:D

[Nitro Power Kid]

man those are some insane videos:eek:

[djhoudek]

Does anybody know if there are other bodies available for this truck?I would also like to get some new wheels anybody have any suggestions?

[RC Jack]

djhoudek, try, this one, http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?Q=1&I=LXN255

It's an F-150 and 8.5" wide, 11 13/16"wb, and looks more realistic as a monster truck than a narrower body F-350 body, IMHO. I have one on my EK and another on order. Too bad they all weren't this wide!! Even has a protective film and a window mask that actually fits. Also, 2 very large decal sheets.

This what it looks like on mine: (I know, it's a lousy pic)

[lowtrac]

Where's everybody at? I check this thread daily and there hasn't been any traffic in a while. Anybody's truck still running?

James

[djhoudek]

hey rcjack is that a 1/8th scale or the 1/10 scale truck you posted?

[RC Jack]

dj, it's 1/8th.

[Guillermo]

im thinjking about getting this truck, it will be my second nitro car.
Does anyone know anything about the radio thats included in the rtr version last time i got an rtr the radio was kind of chessy.:confused:

[phatboy001]

does the tmaxx body fit the pirate 10. i going to get the pirate 10 soon so can any tell me what spare part to get since i heard some part r fragile

[DaMaXXer]

Does anyone know anything about the radio thats included in the rtr version last time i got an rtr the radio was kind of chessy.

Most RTR radios are pretty chessy and should be upgraded exspecially .21 rtr radios, but he one with the P10M will work fine but buy a fail safe just incase.

[OmegaTrac]

Anyone wanna buy my Pirate 10?

[lowtrac]

The Airtronics radio that comes with the kit is fine. I mean, it's not the top of the line obviously, but it has a solid feel. The only thing I don't like about it is that the antenna doesn't entirely retract into the body like my other Airtronics does. As for the T-Maxx bodies, look at the older threads. I posted some pictures of my P10 with a Jeep T-Maxx body on it. I said that it would fit, but it looks a little big IMO. The HPI Nitro MT bodies are a better match, but I've heard they're pretty fragile.

James

[bbb]

All this time and I never knew this forum was here. Here's a pic of my P10M with a modified RC10GT body. So far I've locked the center differential, converted it to 2WD, put a steel spur gear, and an aluminum bulkhead. I ditched the Hyper .21 in favor of the XTM 24.7.

[lowtrac]

Where did you get an aluminum bulkhead? I've been looking for hopups, but have been unsuccessfull.

James

[bbb]

I got the bulkhead from Nitrohouse. Besides that and the Steel Spur gear, I haven't been able to find anything for it either.

[mikecasc]

Has anyone found any replacement rims to fit on this truck?

[timmygreek]

how did you convert it to 2wd?

[bbb]

mikecasc: HPI MT wheels will work. You can't fit the big stock tires because they will rub everything but any standard 2.2 tire will work.

timmygreek: To make it 2WD I locked the center diff, took out the front drive shaft and took out the front CVAs. It's alot more fun when it's 2WD. Especially with the XTM 24.7.

[fezzy]

24.7?! You Crazy Mofo!!!

[bbb]

Originally posted by fezzy
24.7?! You Crazy Mofo!!!

:D

[Big Wig]

Hi all!

I haven't been here in awhile... sorry to anyone that asked me a question I didn't answer - I wasn't ignoring you!

I think Stampede bodies are perfect on the p10m... here's a pic of mine

http://www.faxonwell.com/midmadn/forum/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=936&pid=5793

[bbb]

Must keep thread alive!

[timmygreek]

I converted to 2wd after a small accident at the track took out my cva, and let me tell you this thing is a blast in 2wd. I was tearing up a t-maxx that a friend had brought along and would have done more if my exaust spring haden't fallen off (along with the rest of the exaust :eek: ) . It's double springed now. BTW I found if you drill out the shock pistons to 1/16 of an inch, (make sure you have 2 holes, one of mine only had 1) and put green shock spring on it it dosen't loose control AT ALL , as long as you can keep the front wheels on the ground

[bbb]

Mines 2WD too. With the power of the XTM 24.7 it's insane.

[toddzilla]

hey omega do you still have your truck for sale?

[OmegaTrac]

Yes, my Pirate is still for sale!

[toddzilla]

sorry i just bought a new monster pirate for 310 with shipping

[OmegaTrac]

Whatever dude

[toddzilla]

wasn't trying to be a jerk, i just got the monster pirate and pirate monster confused. they really shouldn't name all their damn vehicles pirate..
:rolleyes:

[OmegaTrac]

lol :cool:

[lowtrac]

Who makes that Stampede body you've got? My stocker is pretty banged up. Also, I've got a fix for the rear drive shaft breaking, I think. I pulled the drive cups off of the rear diff (going to the wheels), and mounted them on the output of the center diff and the input on the rear diff. The dogbones for the rear wheels are the correct length to connect the two diffs so voila, a steel rear drive shaft. The only thing is that I've got to get some new drive cups and a new dogbone so I can test it. The dogbone is pretty thin, so it may not be strong enough. We'll see.

James

[bbb]

lowtrac: Interesting idea. I never thought about trying that. I may give it a try. I haven't broke the drive shaft yet but it's definately twisted a bit. Let us know how it works.

[Big Wig]

lowtrac, that's a Pro-Line F150 body

[timmygreek]

Sorry guys, call me a wus (or whatever) but this truck is WAY to fast for me. It's for sale now on e-bay. (I know I cant put a link here but if you know how to search e-bay in the r/c section it's not difficult to type in "pirate 10" [MAJOR HINT:) ]. It's going cheap!!!!

[mikecasc]

I have a friend that is starting a manufacturing company to make alloy parts for RC cars. I was telling him how Ofna or other companies does not make any option parts for our beloved Pirate 10 monster. Please list the parts you would want strengthened for the truck ( arms, body posts, etc. ) I know how we all love to jump these cars and I know myself I have to call different companies to find parts in stock. You can list the parts here for the pirate 10 monster and any other car you want parts for. Or email them to me at mikecasc@yahoo.com.

[bbb]

mikecasc: Aluminum body posts would be nice.

lowtrac: After finally ripping up my plastic drive shaft I tried out your idea about the steel drive shaft. The first run the drive shaft slipped out a bit and the outdrive destroyed it. I put some spacers in the outdrives to hold the shaft in and it worked like a charm.

Everybody: This is what happens to your P10M chasis when it takes off at full speed and hits a building.

[lowtrac]

Yeah, when I was test fitting, I figured there'd need to be some kind of shims in the drive cups because the dogbone was a little sloppy. I'm glad it worked for you.

James

[matt from uk]

i've just got a pirate 10 can any one tell me any good hop ups i will need for it some thing cheap i was thinkin a steel spur gear cause I went though 5 plastic on my rush? can some post a walk though of locin the center diff and wat does it do?:confused:

[nitrofever]

steel spur gear,good fuel filter and a wide open area to run it and youll be fine, i too had a rush (still do but will never run it again).
and i love my p10m

[nitrofever]

open the center diff up,youll see 4 gears 2 are bigger than the other 2,flip one of the bigger gears (sun gear) upside down,and put back together.

your all set

[matt from uk]

post some pics of your mp 10s and do you know wether this things pulls whellies and know wether it will kick the new t maxxs ass in a race on road
is this thing any good off road ?
cheers:p

[djhoudek]

First of all after locking the center diff its sometimes hard to keep the front down (my rear chassis and body has the scars to prove it).second its much more fun off road on "tight" ground like hard dirt or short grass(try a golf corse but dont get caught It literally tears up the greens).and it will take the t-maxx oh yeah!!!!!!!

[bbb]

On road the P10M will detroy the new T-Maxx. Off road like djhoudek said the ground has to be hard packed otherwise the T-Maxx, which has better suspension, will probably win.

[matt from uk]

what does locing the diff do?
i cant wait to get this and take it to my friends dirt jump we made its wicked i got about 8 foot with my rush with only a short run up he also got a skate plastic ramp which he jumped the rod with with his maxx
also will the beat a maxx with a 21 covertion with under 2hp arond the same power as the pirate?
cheers:p

[bbb]

Locking the center diff makes it so equal power is distributed to the front and rear. With the center open the truck has a tendency to unload power to the front making handling terrible. In the dirt the maxx will probably win because it has much better suspension.

[mikecasc]

Did anyone see the shootout they did with the Pirate. Finally, they are giving the truck the recognition it deserves.

Has anyone attempted to put the two speed in their truck yet. I am curious to know how it works.

[Promod]

What issue was the shoot out in? The Pirate 10 is the most under
rated R/C out there. I just put a Sirio on-road .21 in mine. The motor is EVIL and rated at 2.99 HP. My Pirate 10 is holding up great to all the power.
Thank you,
Promod

[mikecasc]

THe shootout is in the January 2003 issue. I got it Monday in the mail. It goes against all the 4WD nitro 1/10 scale trucks. It was radared at 49.8mph.

[mikecasc]

What hop up parts would you like to see. A freind of mine is starting a business doing aluminum hop-up for cars and he is willing to do pirate 10 parts. What parts would you want. The only feedback I got so far was bodyposts any input.
Mike

[Promod]

Sorry I forgot about the 2-speed. I talked to acehardware hobbies about the factory 2-speed. They said it will not hold up to the .21 as it was made for first .15 Pirate. Maybe one from another R/C could be installed I really don't know. I just wish Ofna or some aftermarket company would support this truck.
Thank you,
Promod

[Promod]

Mike, I would like to see aluminium front and rear skid plates, a wheelie bar(I made mine from a newera stampede bar). I would also like to see a 2-speed trans that would hold the power. Maybe a fix for the high dollar front cvds so dog bones could be installed. I have only broke two front cvds but most people have trouble with those.
I can't think of any thing else right now.
Thank you,
Promod

[Promod]

Hi mike, one other thing I thought of is a longer wheel base chassis. That would be sweet. Let me know what your friend says.
Thank you,
Promod

[mikecasc]

I will pass on the requests,
Mike

[mikecasc]

I was mistaken, the shootout was in RC Nitro.

[Promod]

Mike, thanks for the information I don't have that book yet but I will make sure and get one. Did the P10 win the shootout or was it just the fastest!
Thank you,
Promod

[LemonHead]

I think I am gonna try this truck , looks like it would have killer fun factor!

[OmegaTrac]

I would really advise against that idea! :)

[bbb]

Why would you advise not getting a P10M?

[nitrofever]

i would only recommend this truck for more experianced rc'ers (not that i know if your a newbie or not) but thats the only reason i can think of.

kevin

[LemonHead]

Omega tell me why? I have a MP and the Hyper is a great motor and I have had only a few problems with the diff but I have all that straight now

[Promod]

The pirate 10 is a great truck!!! I have over 2 gallons of fuel though mine with different motors. The only problem I have had with mine was the rear drive shaft twisted and broke. But that was an easy fix. I bought two rear drive cups and found a dog bone. Problem solved. Some people say they have trouble with the front cvds. The only time they have failed for me is when I hit something. Never from power or flipping.
My drive train dose get a work out. I'm running the Sirio .21 on-road motor rated at 2.99 HP.
Some problems people have with this truck are form the speed and power(driver control). Even stock it is faster than most on road cars!! Get one the price is right and you will not be disappointed.
Thank you,
Promod

[OmegaTrac]

Ive owned the P10 and I thought it was a pile of junk.

[nitrofever]

as compared too?

[LemonHead]

I have read your previous posts on this thread , I am not so sure it was junk as much as it was a unexperianced Nitro RC'r. Not flaming, just the fact.

[OmegaTrac]

No not inexperienced. I race 1/10th gas and I just think the truck was a lemon. LOL.

[OmegaTrac]

I currently have two Team Losi XXX-NT's and have never had any problems with them. I can depend on them to run great all the time. Ive also had an RC10GT and never had many problems with it. Now, the P10 on the other hand, it would be broken everytime I went to run it or have some issue. It was by far my worst experience with nitro RC.

[LemonHead]

Well from what I know about the P10 its and diff breed from a RC10GT or a XXX-NT, namely a .21 truck on a 1/10th, I am sure there will be some probems but I can understand that with the power thats pushing it, hella lot of stress on parts, but when it is running I am sure its insane fun!

[LemonHead]

I just went back and read all your posts on the P10 , all problems sounded to me to be user error... I have researched every car I bought on these threads and numerous times people want to blame the car/truck for the problems and brand the Manufactuer/Model a piece of junk for life

[tallcracker]

i am looking for a winter toy, originally i was looking at the nitro quake, but i was advised it doesnt pull well on the low end (something i need!), and that better trucks are out there for less money. i saw a few shots of this truck (pirate 10) in car action, then when i got to the ads i flipped out. can you really pick this thing up ready to run for 350? it seems like a great deal, what does every1 else think about the value/price ratio? heres what i am looking for i drive alot in wooded areas with large hills and ditches. i need to be able to climb almost vertical inclines as well as jump 2-4 feet in the air. i need a truck that is fast enough to run with a mp5 with a o.s. 21 on the straight areas. and i need a relaiable truck. how would this truck meet those needs? thanks in advance guys. o yeah im looking to buy the 20th, right before christmas so let me know if you all see any good deals.

[tallcracker]

and i also have years of nitro and electric rc experience. so little things like thread lock and carb tuning are no biggie.

[matt from uk]

will this truck handle up to 6 foot jumps and will it beat a 1/8 buggy with 1.7 hp and the new maxx. is there any skill or knowlege of how to jump this beast? wat radio shall i go for sumut cheap any recomendations?
cheers

[mikecasc]

You can actually get the p10 monster rtr for $300. Go to speedzoneraceway.com and call them the owner is Mike. I got mine from him, his prices are too low to post on the website. I think nitrohouse.com also has them for $300 too.

[tallcracker]

hey mike
thanks for the reply as to price, that is a really good deal. since u have had the truck for a while do u know about any of my other questions. reliability/climbing/jumping? i just want too make sure this is going to be a vehicle i am not going to regret buying in a month or so

[mikecasc]

The car is all around extremely powerful. I think it is everything you are looking for. The handling on this truck is not the best but when you figure a single speed stadium truck with big tires doing 49mph you have only a touring car might be able to handle better.

[tallcracker]

49 mph from a single speed! this sounds like what im looking for. just wait 2 more paychecks then pick this bad boy up in time for christmas break. i will let every1 know how it goes. thanks again

[mikecasc]

Are there any aluminum parts that anyone would like to see made for this truck. PM me or email me at mikecasc@yahoo.com for parts you would like made stronger.
Mike

[djhoudek]

how about a cool looking front bumper that kind of resembles the hpi savage bumper I know if you look at most of the readers rides in rcca mag. front ends are always a "hopped up area" maybe even make a room for working lights on it?Oh yeah and how about some wheelie bars?

[lowtrac]

Man! I don't check the forum for a few days and you guys blow it up! I'm glad to see a lot of activity in here. I'm back in the saddle, kinda. I replaced my rear shaft with a stock plastic one insted of sticking with the dogbone. I do a lot of jumping and I was afraid the steel shaft would just cause something else to let go, like a diff. On the last run I broke one of the front CVAs, and the signal wire on the steering servo got clipped. I got a good deal on a Hitec high torque steering servo so I just replaced it insted of soldering the wires. As far as hopups, I wouldn't mind seeing some longer arms. Stock size aluminums would be cool, but longer ones would be more beneficial. Then we'd just have to figure out how to use some MIP CVD's for the front drives. I don't think they make any that'll work now.

http://home.lagrange.edu/james/pirate10/lowtracsig.jpg

[LemonHead]

Low trac how long hae you had your P10? I know somethings are going to give me trouble but thats all part of the hobby, What things have run run into?

[lowtrac]

I got it around July of last year. I've broken a pull starter, a rear upper shock mount screw, rear drive shaft, and a CVA. I do run it pretty hard though so I expect some breakage. It was pretty hard to break in because the engine was so tight. That's why I broke the pull starter. Haven't had any other problems though. The only thing I don't like is that my LHS doesn't stock any Ofna parts so it usually takes about a week to get anything.

[bbb]

I'm selling my P10M rolling chassis and a ton of extra parts for $200 shipped. Go here for details:

click here (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=106102)

[gkcontra]

I know most of you are running the new P10 with a .21, but is there anyone who ran an older one with a .12 or .15? I may be able to get a rolling chassis real cheap and have a .12 and a .15 sitting around doing nothing. I already have 2 1/8 scales and a tmaxx so I don't need this thing to be as crazy as it sounds with the .21. May actually even use it as a buggy at times.

[lowtrac]

bbb-
I replied to your post over in the for sale forum

gkcontra-
I've seen some people posting that the older Pirate 10 is a good truck too. I know there are some differences between the new and the old, namely the monster size tires and a plastic center driveline. I'd say go for it if you can get it really cheap. I'm pretty sure the chassis is the same so you can upgrade to the new specs with factory parts later if you want.

James

[p.n.e]

i posted this question in bbb's sale thread by mistake. here it is

hey guys,

i've eyed this truck a couple of times and now im giving some serious thought to getting it. how durable is it? i heard its a bit hard to control becuz its so light and balloons the tires, would this lead to more broken parts? I am either going to get this or a tmaxx 2.5 or a ofna gt lx pro. for those of you that have a tmaxx how does the p10 look beside it in terms of size, articulation and ground clearance? thanks in advance

[lowtrac]

The only parts I've broken (with the excepton of the pull-start) have been caused by my "roughness" with the truck. I'm not easy on it. I would say that it is quite durable and if you don't drive like a wild man you should be ok. You can lock the center diff if you're worried about the ballooning tires, and I would recommend you get a steel spur gear pretty soon too. As far as comparison with a Maxx, check out these pictures.

Click here (http://home.lagrange.edu/james/pirate10/wednesday/)

The Pirate is mine, and the T-Maxxes are a couple of guys I work with. The T-Maxx with the F350 body if for sale if anyone's interested.

James

[LemonHead]

Lowtrac, Have you locked you diffs? If not is all that power going to the front like they say?

[mikecasc]

I just bought the new T-maxx yesterday and I already have the pirate 10 monster. I will let everyone know which one I think is better. I bought the T-maxx for monster trucking, I use the pirate for bashing around. I know it blows the doors off my brother's original T-maxx so we will have to see what it does to the new T-maxx.

[lowtrac]

I locked the center diff. It wouldn't be a very good idea to lock the front. You could probably get away with the rear, but I wouldn't recommend it. Before the center was locked, yeah, it did throw the power to the front. I have a theory about that. the reason it happens is because of the differential action of the center diff. The diffs basically route more power to the wheel that offers less resistance. Like if a your car gets stuck, one tire spins and the other don't (unless you've got some kind of positive traction diff, or locker). When you hit the gas, the weight transfers to the rear of the chassis effectively limiting traction on the front tires. The center diff then allows more power to go to the front end because there's less resistance there. As power increases to the front end, the tires balloon and the truck becomes hard to control because the contact patch of the tires are smaller when they're ballooned and the lack of traction. Locking the center causes a uniform distribution of power to the front and rear. Locking the front would cause a lot of stress on the diff/drive cups because when you turn, the outside tire moves faster than the inside. If the front diff was locked this action couldn't happen so the outside tire would drag and it wouldn't handle well at all. If the rear was locked, it'd push in the turns a lot more than it does already I expect.

Whew!
James

[p.n.e]

hmm..thats alrite, i love the sight of ballooning tires. can you guys wheelie on demand? or hop a curb? does locking the diff wreck it? would it be worth it to get this truck in kit form? and finally, where can i find a steel spur for it? thx

[lowtrac]

can you guys wheelie on demand?
I've only run Omega 15% in my truck, so it's not making the power that it would with some 20% or 25%. So, mine will wheelie with a little bump to the front tires but other folks have theirs wheelieing (?) by hitting the throttle.
or hop a curb?
I guess so, depends on how high it is and the shape. I jump the curb outside my house all the time. It kinda' scratches up the chassis but you can expect that...
does locking the diff wreck it?
Huh? Do you mean break it? I haven't sustained any damage due to the locked diff.
would it be worth it to get this truck in kit form?
I don't think it's available as a kit. Only RTR.
where can i find a steel spur for it?
Anywhere that sells Ofna parts. Your LHS can probably order it for you. If not, you can check out Tower Hobbies (http://www.towerhobbies.com), or Nitro House (http://www.nitrohouse.com). The Ofna part number is 17076. Tower lists it for $18.39.

James

[LemonHead]

Low, how did you lock your center diff? Did you do it like the RC mag said?

[ducklake1]

I just got mine today, haven't even put the decals on yet.
Looks like lots of fun.

http://theweltons.com/pics/DSC00737.jpg

http://theweltons.com/pics/DSC00740.jpg

[Promod]

Lemonhead, you lock the center diff just as described in the mag.
ducklake1, you will love it!!! Just make sure and use a hair dryer to heat up the motor before you start it. That will make things go easier.
Thank you,
Promod

[p.n.e]

cmon, details!! how does it run??:D

[ducklake1]

One Word: Very FAST!!!

The Engine is very tight, to say the least, like everybody said.

It was between 35-40 degrees here, when i started the break-in.
The settings the book gave me were Way Off!! Probably because it's cold here, my guess.

It took me about a hour to finally start it. I had to lean it way out.
I ran about 5-6 tanks at idle, the engine was very cool, and Rich.

Took it down to the road to run, ran a few tanks through it, at the rich setting.
Then i started leaning it out. I had to lean it Way Out, from where i had it. It was still running very cool, to my surprise.

Finally i got it set right where it'd come up to the high rpm's.
Man, this thing is fast!!
The front tires were balooning up instantly.
I rarely kept it floored, blipping the throttle mostly, cause it's so fast.

It really surprised me, i'm no newbie to RC either.
Last year i got a EK-4 for Christmas, that thing was just bad luck for me, couldn't get it tuned in at all. Like they say, you either get one that runs or it doesn't.

The suspension is nothing i'd really want to jump with, compared to my E-Maxx. The E will be for jumping, the P10 for on the ground thrashing!! E-Maxx jumping video-4mb (http://theweltons.com/Good.wmv)

The Hyper was very easy to tune, once i got it running.

I'm going to wait a little on locking the Diff, don't want to strip the gear, i'm sure it'll strip eventually though.

I should have some video soon, as long as we don't get alot of snow, and i have somebody to tape me.