Kyosho GP Spider Forum

[spiderwc]

i have aquestion.i own a kyosho gp spider mark 2 world cup edition. this car has cost me over 1000 dollars iam hearing that this car is going to become discontinued it pisses me off because its out fitted with alot of good stuff.it has carbon upper plate and shock towers 2 speed aluminum pullyes aluminum brakes temp gauge os .15cvr a pcm radio titanium screw set front and center one ways.the list just goes on.my buddy has a mugen mtx -2 his is also hopped up as well as mine .he usually gets me in the corners . but i always grab him in the straight aways. reply to this to tell me what to do .if i should keep it or if its junk my email is shorty540p@yahoo.com

[spiderwc]

this section is for gp spiders go a head and post away

[island-guy]

Well if anyone here is looking for a bunch of spare parts for this car e-mail me!

[spiderwc]

exactly what spare parts do you have/ do you have pics

[island-guy]

Well I have a bunch or spare belts, belt pulleys, tuned pipe, and a rolling chassis. I'll throw in the whole lot for dirt cheap.....if you're serious email me at island_guy_1@hotmail.com

[spiderwc]

exactly how much are we talking....is it in good condition what colr is the chassis .do you have pics

[spenzalii]

Whatever you do with that thing, GET THE ALUMINUM PULLEYS! You will thank me for it later. I could give you a few horror stories I had with mine, if you want.... :mad:

Oh, and Tower Hobbies is one of the best places to find parts for that thing:

[spiderwc]

i know that tower has all the stuff. i would like to hear abput your times with your so post away

[spiderwc]

mine has the aluminum pulleys its the world cup edition

[spenzalii]

That's a decent start there. I can't remember if the WC has a tuned pipe ans 2 speed, but if not, they are recommended, as are the adjustable turnbuckles. Scrap the GSX11 engine; it hasn't a lot of power. When you do get a decent motor, you will need the motor mounts alse. Oh, and ditch the plastic brake for the fiber or aluminum one

[spiderwc]

mine has a os .15 2 speed aluminum pulleys front and center one ways.carbon upper plate and shock towersand also the adjustable turn buckles .i have all of that

[spiderwc]

MINE HAS A PARIS TURBO PIPE THAT I BOUGHT SO I COULD DITCH THE STOCK ONE

[spenzalii]

Well, it looks as if you killed most of the trouble spots there. You may want to invest in the Kevlar belts, which will resist stripping a little more. It was Kyosho's most competitive chasis until the V1 series was introduced, so it should work pretty well in the right hands. Did the WC have threaded shocks?

[spiderwc]

no it has the teflon touring shocks which are the best ones they make

[iceman0013]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LE2629**&P=1

Does any one know the real name of this car cuz i can't find it on kyosho.com ! How fast does it go out of the box? What is the biggest engine this car can handle? How fast would it go then?
I am very curious about this car scince it has a price tag small enough to fit my wallet!THANX!

[KingWillie]

Hey fellas TOWER HOBBIES does not have all the parts I just tried ordering the front belt and they said it was discontinued by KYOSHO. How can this be as KYOSHO and GREAT PLANES policy is to provide spare parts for 4 years that's right FOUR YEARS. What the hell is going on here. I just bought one of these for my 10 y/o son for Christmas since we've added a 2 speed, stabilizers front one-way and an OS 0.15 CV Hyper. Thing goes like hell now I have to tell him he's finished?

[KingWillie]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Whatever you do with that thing, GET THE ALUMINUM PULLEYS! You will thank me for it later. I could give you a few horror stories I had with mine, if you want.... :mad:

Oh, and Tower Hobbies is one of the best places to find parts for that thing:

Couldn't agree more, I've melted two pulleys since installing an OS CV-Hyper 0.15. Problem here is no one one has the hardened pulleys now as Tower says they are being discontinued. I could just kick someone right now!

[spenzalii]

Really? I would hope they still have the pulleys. You may be able to get them direct from Kyosho. Actually, if you count the teeth (or what's left of them), yoy may be able to use the individual pulleys for another car such as an RS4. I remember jury rigging mine with spare pulleys from my electric OB4. The downside is you'll need to figure out the gear ratio all over, but you can run it again

[KingWillie]

Nope, no pulleys other than the main drive pulley all counter pulleys sold out according to Great Planes product manager for the GP10 MKII Spider. Great huh? What happened to four years parts supply after discontinuing the car.

[spenzalii]

OK Try These:

HPI Nitro RS4 Purple Aluminum Small Belt Pulleys by Robinson Racing

Part# 1538
$22.50 for a set of 2

That may do the trick. Checl your LHS is they stock them and have a look. They should fit the shaft and the crosspin nicely. If they don't have them, you can order direct from Robinson. It's worth a shot

[spenzalii]

Even better, try this:
Kyosho Hardened Counter Pulleys (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=KYOC3084&FVPROFIL=++)
I found the part nember on Kyosho's site and searched it that way. They will do the trick

[KingWillie]

Nice, thank you. Just ordered them. That's one big attaboy. Thanks again, I don't know how I missed them. :D

[spenzalii]

No problem. I told you, I ordered almost every part for that car, save the diffs and the chasis itself. You should see my Tower order log. And I thought I was saving money...

[KingWillie]

Check This Out

Hey everyone check out the e-mail I got from Hobbico today. I've been harrassing them for two weeks about canceling the parts for the Spider, looks like KYOSHO is still producing them these people were just going to drop it. Lovely how they were going to stick to there 4 year parts source after discontinuing a model. Please if you could e-mail Jake Martin and thank him. I believe he was finally responsible for talking some sense into them.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Jake would it be safe to share this with the KYOSHO forum on RC-Nitro.com?

send to: jmartin@hobbico.com

Dear Sir,

Yes that would be fine, although we don't have a date of arrival for the parts though.

Jake
Product Support
www.greatplanes.com


>>> "W.M.Groben" <billg58@comcast.net> 06/27/02 05:51PM >>>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jake Martin" <jmartin@hobbico.com>
To: <billg58@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 8:30 AM
Subject: GP Spider Parts


Dear Sir,

I have contacted the Product Manager and they are reinstating the parts, and
will be ordered again.

Thanks,
Jake
Product Support

[KingWillie]

Here is the latest product support response I have received from Hobbico/GreatPlanes:

Sir,

Thank you for your recent e-mail and for sharing your thoughts on the situation.

Unfortunately, occasionally mistakes do happen despite the best efforts of every staff member on our team. As the same parts are used on vehicle after vehicle, we stock literally thousands of parts. Occasionally a purchasing clerk will make a mistake, looking at the kit name initially tied to the part, thinking it is long since discontinued, the sales on the part are low so they discontinue the part. We do our best to avoid these errors but they do occasionally happen.

As shown here, a notification from our support team is all it takes to resolve such a mistake and get the parts reordered.

I hope you will show us the courtesy of posting my message, or the basics of it, to your forum group and recognize that we are not 'the evil empire' trying to 'screw the customer' but rather trying to keep a reasonable balance of parts which no longer sell because the cars are gone so long and the items needed by our current users.

Sincerely,
Mrs. AnnMarie Cross
Senior Manager, Proprietary Services and Support
Great Planes Model Distributors

[spenzalii]

Wow, Power 2 The People!

It's good to see some companies are still supporting the little guy. Kudos to Great Planes and you KW for staying on them!

[3434]

Now how do we get them back in the Kyosho World Cup?? I have two new VoneS,s and three spare engines and no where to run them.

[KingWillie]

Yeah it was a nice response, I was happy to see they do care. If we couldn't rely on companies like Tower to do their part this would be no where near as much fun. I sent the forum link to the Tower Hobbies product Manager for Great Planes;
Mrs. AnnMarie Cross
Senior Manager, Proprietary Services and Support
Great Planes Model Distributors
so she could have a look. I wasn't sure if she was familar with the forum.

Yeah
:cool: :D :) ;) :cool:

[JIP2587]

I've got a GP Spider MK II World Cup Edition with the two speed transmission.
Finger in the clutch seems to wear down the catch in the gear pretty quick. Does anyone know whether i could put a clutch shoe type clutch in or any other way of reinforcing the transmission.


Any suggestions would be much appreciated.


P.S.: I just found the forum. Glad I did. I thought i was the only one who still owned one of these cars.

JIP2587

[KingWillie]

Originally posted by JIP2587
I've got a GP Spider MK II World Cup Edition with the two speed transmission.
Finger in the clutch seems to wear down the catch in the gear pretty quick.

I havent had this problem and haven't heard of it, but if you contact 3434 somehow he seems to be quite experienced with the MKII. I would bet he can help you out.
ANd there are still a bunch of these cars out there, a little fragile by todays standards, but they stil run very well at the track.
Maybe you should post a thread in the Nitro Forum and mention that it is a MKII WC I bet he shows there. He has been very helpful.

[Cant log on]

Welcome to the board JIP2587. Ofna used to make a two speed for the spider. I think it was still a finger clutch but the gears had a metal center. Only problem is they come with very low gears (good for top speed but they bog the engine down). Good news is that they have optional gears but that adds to the cost. Sorry I can't help with a part # but I'm sure there still around.
Glad I've been some help Kingwillie


3434

[KingWillie]

Originally posted by Cant log on

Glad I've been some help Kingwillie



Absolutely, Team Ten Year Old is moving through the Nitro Touring Category and make all the older guys with their new cars wince, of course this could be because he is slamming into them.

[JIP2587]

Thanks for the help.......I'll look for the part.



JIP2587

[maxboost]

hi guys i own a kyosho GP SPIDER MKII with a stock GS11R engine. do anyone of u know the specs on this engine? coz it doesnt say it on the manual and even kyosho website. and what fuel do u guys use on ur GP spider with GS11R?

[maxboost]

ok today, i came up with a damn good idea. i made my stock muffler run like a tuned pipe!. the power gain is incredible. if anyone interested, holla back!

[maxboost]

anyone running GS11R engine? how was it? how much horsepower? how much torque?

[spenzalii]

MKII with the GSX11? Not sure the hp rating on it. Considering it's only a .10 (most start at .12), I can't imaging the engine making over .4 hp. And that's with a tuned pipe. I had a Spider myself and swapped it in less than a month for something a little stronger. Whatever you do, make sure you replace those plastic pulleys with aluminum if you haven't done so already. Most of the info has been posted on this subject in earlier threads (I just stumbled back onto this one; it had been dormant for a while), but I'll be happy to assist if I can

spenzalii

[Akina'sMtx-2]

If anyones looking for new strong chassis for their spider, Integy has a 7075 t6 countersunk alumium chassis. The Kyosho ones are discontinued, and this might be the only hope for a strong chassis to get for the spiders.

http://secure400.automatedshops.com/cgi-bin/ams/shopzone30.cgi/~wfp16353/st_prod.html?p_prodid=525&p_catid=22&sid=2dODWE0X8Ckk8Xj-31102087865.13

[kyoshofan420]

Hey everyone. I own a GP Spider WC and needed some help. My local hobby store has a small, intricate track with a lot of hard turns. My car seems to turn very wide. I would like to try to limit the amount of spin in the diffs so more power can be put down. Is there anything I can use to limit the diffs action other than the regular grease?:confused: I will appreciate any input.:)

[FireStormGS]

I just recently got a spider gp wc, used, for cheap, very cheap, like 10 CAN cheap, heh. Anyways, the catch was there was no manual and it was in pieces, and the known fact that some pieces were missing. I would later find that the front right turning knuckle, two gears to transfer power to the front wheels, the gear within the clutch, the rear axel bulkhead, and the muffler gasket were the parts missing.

After i got it and tried to put it together without success, i was able to track down the manual at a hobby shop two towns out. after a couple days with the manual, i went through and built as much of the car as i could with the missing pieces, returned to the hobby shop, then got them ordered, im now waiting for these parts to come in so i can actually start up the car and get it running.

The other reason my friend sold be the spider for cheap was because he plans on switching completly to offroad cars, and after pretty much giving me the spider has another onroad sitting in a hobby shop to be sold. The other friend has a nitro stadium truck, not sure the model. And the third friend just got an evader buggy for christmas.

In the spirit of goin all offroad, the first two friends were able to find a pretty much abandoned lot in town and decided to take some shouvels and build themselves a track. I saw it the other day, looks like some good racin action will soon take place there.

Back to the spider. Now everyone doubted from the start that id even get this thing running. It was without a manual, known parts missing, no radio, no body. Didnt look good, and after the track was built, it was thought that i shouldnt have even put the car together because it wouldnt stand a chance on the track, and no one else would have a car to race against.

i didnt want to be left out, so i decided to just put it together and see what it could do on the track, knowing full well that id prolly be avoiding all the jumps, and be lapped continously on a count of the small spider engine. While building i noticed that the suspension was purposely hitting the chassis so an on road car would be more stable and not be too high off the ground. This was a no no :) . I took the chassis out to the garage and took a buffer to it. Reworked the position of the shocks, and i know have a car with atleast 1.5 to 2 inch of clearance, and pushing down the chassis all the way and it still has atleast half an inch clearance. The offroad conversion has begun. The rest of the car is so makeshift, becuase i dont want to be bothered with getting new parts. So it has a 7 channel aircraft reciever and servos in it from an old plane i have. I have a piece of wire arced over the bigger recieve to get to the throttle linkage, you have to imagine this on the old spider upper deck, the new one was lost before i saw it. All the body mounts have been specially designed for the beat up alfa romaro body the first friend gave me. And plans are into the works for some offroad tires. If i cant get a hold of any cheap truck offroad tires, the plan is to rip the rubber off a set of wheelsi have, he gave me like 3 sets with the car, buy a pack of thumbtacs, push them through the rubber, and put back on the wheels. Ill then have spiked racing slicks, which will hopefully be enough for the mud, and if not they'll make great ice tires for the winter :) .

My only worry now is the engine and the power it outputs, its the gs11x and im pretty sure thats the .10 engine, this is my first rc car and learning about all this schtuff. Do you guys think this will be enough to pull it though an off road track? Im doubting it... so if it does horribly, i plan on getting a O.S. sumtin sumtin .15 engine off the second friend, but it suppoedly needs a 50 some odd dollar part, and buying the replacement parts is enough for me right now. Just dont want to put too much money into the hobby just yet.

I really wish i had a digi cam, and i could post pics off this onroad turned offroad. With the alfa body it looks so close to a rally car now, its awsome! What do you guys think, does it stand a chance against the evader? Remember, his a pretty bad driver, it might be a new car for him but he's all over the place, so i might just have to outrace him, :) .

I had down a search for kyosho spider and now just noticed this was in the onroad specific forum, im off to repost this in the offroad forum too, :)

[spenzalii]

In the spirit of jury rigging, I say GOOD JOB! On the issue of practicality, I say WHAT THE....? As you probably read, I has a few issues with the Spider just ON-ROAD, taking it off road will be interesting for sure! But, if you wanna try...

First on the tires: why not grap a set of HPI rally tires instead? They come in soft and hard compound, work well for dirt, and don't require modification to use on your sedan. Just don't use them onroad. Yes, the motor is a .10, which nobody uses anymore, but much more and you will have constant drivetrain problems (see earlier posts). If you must have speed with this thing, get a small .12, the motor mounts (required, as the mounts on the GSX-11 are cast on the block) and buy the aluminum pulley set. PLEASE. That is not an option, as the plastic will not hold up to the extra horsepower. Oh, pick up some cheap, longer shocks. Kyosho sells some for their buggy that should do the trick, and give you more ground clearance. A really good source for parts is, of course, Tower Hobbies. I'm a bit sleepy right now and am about to leave work so I'll review your post when I get home to see if I missed anything, but that should be good for starters.

BTW, for the money you put (or are about to put) into the Spider, you could buy a Traxxas Rustler, Nitro or Electric.:o

[FireStormGS]

Bout time someone replied, heh

Um, yup got those exact rally tires over the weekend, hard compound i beleive. The engine, yea, is week, do you think that .15 os whatever would be too much for the belts? Then, yea the belts, the plan is to cover them up as best i can. I was thinking of way to incorporate shaft driven, would a shaft driven differential fit in the spider casing it has now? And i dont konw where you got the money thing from, but i dont plan on putting anywhere near a 100 into it, or 50-70 for that matter.

[spenzalii]

Neither did I, but once I looked at my receipts for the things I bought to repair the car (and this was running under normal conditions, not modifying like you're doing) it was about that much. Ah well, it was a learning experience. Modifying the car from its belt driven state to a shaft drive, a la the TR-15 series Kyosho has will most likely be problematic, to say the least. And it's not the rocks that you really have to worry about, the pulleys themselves are a pain. Each of them jammed and stripped, causing the belts to grind off their teeth and become useless. If you're gonna put ANY motor in there, get the aluminum pulleys. THIS IS NOT AN OPTION!

Now as far as having your jury-rigged platform against a purpose-built machine, you will have your hands full. The Evader was built for this type of terrain, while the spider was just adequate for the parking lot. Taking a so-so platform into territory it was never meant for is the definate X-factor. I mean, you could slap some off road tires on, say, a civic, but it may not be the best idea. Keeping that in mind, it's worth a shop. Just don't expect too much out of it and have a backup car to play with while you're fixing the spider!:D

[woppini]

wow, after all this time looking at forums here for my ofna monster pirate, i had no idea they had one here for the MKII . I have had this car for a few years, and raced it. It has held up incredibly well. One problem i always have, is the rear belt wearing out after a hard race. I use the kevlar series belt (low fricktion), with the the aluminum pulley. I up graded to an OS.12 engine and a 2spd. Maybe this is normal, but it seems at the end of race day, that belt is shot, while the other ones are in great shape. I dont see any rocks that get caught. I have noticed that the belt wants to track toward the bearing block near the engine, and dig into it. I am looking for a washer (inplace of the c-clip ring) to put on the saft against the aluminum sprocket to help guide it What do you all think? Happy new year:)

[spiderworldcup2]

i need some help i own a gp spider world cup i just bought a new sirio .12 outlaw motor for it the motor is a slide carb and the crank is sg shaft i need to no what i need to install the slide carb in my car and the sg shaft any stock numbers would bee appreciated thanks rich

[X-Tee Ha !]

Hi

I have just bought a secondhand "GP-10" it says on the box but I can't find any information about it, I "think" it's a GP-10, it's a real nice car, old but very good condition but there is no manual !! I can't find one to download from Kyosho, I think the car is too old, any ideas where I could get one? Or could someone photocopy/scan me their manual?

For identification purposes, it's shaft drive with a 2-speed transmission and various other hop-ups, it says it has a "GS11-X" engine on the box but it actually has an OS CZ-Z.

Thanks !

[spenzalii]

Let's see,

spider: I really think that's too much motor for that chasis. In addition to the linkage issue (you may have to jury rig something to get that to work, I think the chasis was designed only for rotary carbs), the amount of torque will strip every piece of that car to shreads. I'm not sure on the crank and the flywheel; your LHS can probably help you out. But again, I urge you te reconsider putting that much motor in that chasis. Every belt, gear, diff, anything that moves, will be toast.

X-tee: Got a pic of the box? it probably isn't a spider (those were belt drive) but we may be able to sort out what it is. Considering it has a CZ engine (predacessor to the current CV line) that says something on the age

[spiderworldcup2]

idont think my sirio will be to much powerfor my spider. i solved my linkage problems now i just need to find the right fly wheel that matches the collet on my sirio which is a sg crank shaft any part numbers would be help full if you guys have any ideas let me know .....

[ianhobbies]

i have a gp10 shaft drive, i'ved mad some radical conversions to the car. i got all the info u need. email me at iandoroteo@speed.info.com.ph

[Mustang5L5]

So, anyone know where else you can still get those hardened pulleys from??

I have a GP-10. Prob had it close to 10 years, and it sat for 9 of them. I have the model with the Porsche 911 body and originally came with the GSX-11 engine.

I've modified it a bit.

Stainless brake upgrade
sway bars
different wheels and sticky tires
oil-filled shocks
2-speed trans
OS .12 CZ w. tuned pipe.

I'm having trouble mounting the OS engine. I have the mounts but it seems as if the snout of the engine is 1mm too long. I used the flywheel off the GS-11 engine but i still can't shorten the snout enough. I may have to notch the mount holes in the engine plate and slide it back a bit.

I'm really curious to getting some of these pulleys. I've been searching ebay snagging spare parts and even a spare chassis for future breakage. I found a Shaft Drive conversion kit on ebay.

I like the car and i have a lot of time and effort into it. I know i could upgrade and blow it away with a new car, but i'll stick to what i have.

[pleaseletmeon34]

Haven't looked at that car in a few years but I don't remember any shaft conversions for it. I haven't tried to buy the pulleys either. Did you try tower?? The Kyosho ones worked the best but GPM made them too. You also have to change the flywheel to an FD-49 when you install an OS engine.

[Mustang5L5]

Haven't looked at that car in a few years but I don't remember any shaft conversions for it. I haven't tried to buy the pulleys either. Did you try tower?? The Kyosho ones worked the best but GPM made them too. You also have to change the flywheel to an FD-49 when you install an OS engine.

That's what i thought but here it is

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2565&item=5936523397&rd=1


Isn't the FD-49 flywheel the same flywheel used on the stock GS-11X engine? If so that's the flywheel i swapped over to the OS engine. I used the OS inner washer, then the GSX's small 1mm spacer and then the flywheel. I need just a tiny bit more of clearance.

I can't find the pulleys anywhere...at least the Kyosho ones. Does anyone have a part number for the GPM pulleys?

I'm trying to scoop up every available performance part i can for this car while i still can, and also trying to buy some spare chassis off ebay cheap for any future "accidents"

[pleaseletmeon34]

Interesting but I don't think that was for this car. Some of the parts for the super 10 where labeled GP10. Might be for that or there where conversion kits for the old inferno10 to convert to a car. And one other possibility was for the old Tbird stockcar. That was shaft diven 2wd.

Stock flywheel that came with your car was an FD-21. There where two versions. Early ones were steel later ones were alum.. Do you still have a manual? On the page where you intall the engine has a caption that tells you to use the FD-49 when using an OS engine. The same thing is in the two speed instuctions if you still have them. I have done this many times without a problem.

The chassis of the MKII will work also. Its drilled for both models.

[Mustang5L5]

Ok, guess i'll have to pick up an Fd-49 flywheel, along with the Kevlar belts. I really would like to get some aluminum pulleys if i can find them. Mine isn't the MKII chassis so i had to upgrade a few components.

WOuld the MKII cooling fan be a worthwhile mod? or should I pass?

I'm trying to fix the weak points of this chassis. What would you say they would be?

I beleive my O.S. .12 is rated at about 1HP. I'm concerned about breaking the 2-speed, the plastic pulleys and the belts...although replacement belts are easy to come by since HPI makes belts that will fit.

Again, this car is for my own enjoyment in a lot set up with some cones. I have no desire to race so i'm not concerned with other chassis being more competitive. I like the GP-10

[pleaseletmeon34]

You might be able to find the MKII chassis. Not that its better its just drilled for both models. You might find it cheeper. Pass on the fan. I never used one. The OS CZ engine were about .5 hp. That was the hottest thing at the time. I really didn't like the metal pulleys. They used to where to a point and eventually cut the belts. But with the powerful (lol) OS engines it would tear the center out of the back pulley. That was the only one I would use metal.
The GPM set was about $40 for a set of four. It might take some time (I'm going through a massive cleanup right now) but I have two somewhere. They were in the console in my truck for years. I don't want them, something for shipping would be fine. Just give me some time.

[Mustang5L5]

Cool, just let me know.

I wanted to put a more powerful engine in the car, bu ti just want to get it set up and running first.

I was looking at the O.S 18, but now after reading this whole thread i'm worried it might be too powerful a motor. It's rated at 1.35HP.

I like HP though, so i'm willing to try to make it work

[pleaseletmeon34]

LOOKY what I found. I really didn't expect to find these for a few days. PM me with how you want to do this.

[Urielly]

Any one wanna buy my SPIDER WC MKII E-mail me at Jurielly@yahoo.com :cool:

[fastfiddies]

Hey all,

dunno if im making this post in the right section (this post seems dead??)
but anyhew.

Ive just aqquired a new 2nd hand nitro car and am after any info/help/tips/advice for it as im a newbie to nitro cars.

Here are the specs

*Kyosho GP10 Spider Mk 1
*GS-15R engine (from a Kyosho V-one-S)
*2 speed trans
*S/Steel brake
*GPM Racing Pulleys
*GPM Belt tensioner - new 850 bearings
*GS Racing air filter
*Tiger Thunder tuned pipe
*GPM Racing Tie rod ends & suspension arms
*Kyosho Front/rear sway bars
*Tamiya Alloy dampers and tuned springs

Can anyone help me with tips on what i should be wary of, or should replace? Or can point me in the right direction to find more info out about this car?

Any info would be greatly appreciated :) , as im in australia and not too many places can help me out.

thanks heaps.
fastfiddies.

[fastfiddies]

also, ive noticed in the posts above that someone said hpi makes belts to replace the original kyosho ones.

Front- SP-53
Middle & Rear- TM-17

can anybody please tell me the HPI part numbers or point me to a link that can as i need a set of fresh belts A.S.A.P!

cheers.
fastfiddies

[Mustang5L5]

I do see replacement parts pop up on Ebay from time to time.

I almost bid on a few belts sets just last month

[Mustang5L5]

OK, havne't had time to drive the car so it's been sitting. I need 1 more part to make it operational. I need an FD-49 flywheel. I guess it's recently been discontinued according to tower hobbies.

I tried ebay and can't seem to find any. I'll keep looking but if anyone has a Kyosho FD-49 flywheel it would help me out a lot.

EMail me at Mustang5L5@hotmail.com

[spiderwc]

ive got one for ya . give me an email at rpaniccia@frontiernet.net i still have a complete rolling chassis thats just as nice as new if intrested its the wc edition thanks richard

[prostock]

Ha everyone,

I have a Spider WC edition with spare parts for sale if interested please contact me.

BRC

[PhaseZero]

Hey guys, if anyone still uses the gs-11r or i think gs-11x even, i'm selling 2 of the pull start recoil assembly's on ebay...heres the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/Kyosho-Spider-gs11r-pullstart-recoil-assembly-74381-03_W0QQitemZ6006237032QQcategoryZ34062QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[stealth17au]

Hi all,

I am from Australia... i have just acquired a second hand GP10 Spider. It runs fine and I know that I can get replacement parts for it right here in OZ....problem is, i dont have a parts breakdown of the car.

Does anyone out there have a breakdown they can email me

Would be greatly appreciated.

[pleaseletmeon34]

Do you have the spider GP10 or the second version the MKII? Here is a link to the MKII. A lot of the parts are the same or will interchange.

http://www.hobbyone.com.br/vistaex.asp?kit=31712

[stealth17au]

Do you have the spider GP10 or the second version the MKII? Here is a link to the MKII. A lot of the parts are the same or will interchange.

http://www.hobbyone.com.br/vistaex.asp?kit=31712

I really do not know to be honest. I assume it is just the standard one but I cannot be sure.

[pleaseletmeon34]

Look at the radio tray on the link I showed above, does yours look like that? The older model had both servos side by side, one facing up and the other facing down. The roll bar on the on the older model was mounted left to right, the MKII was mounted front to back. Most of the plastic on the GP Spider was gray in color, the MKII was black. Thats just a few of the things.

[stealth17au]

Hi

Been a bit busy of late.... I am sure I have the series 1 car

the top plate has a 'K' kyosho symbol on it which looks different to the one that shows on that parts list.


Do you by any chance have a parts list available. Kyhosho sent me one but have the parts arent shown cause they havent sent me the full manual

I am trying to purchase some replacement parts here but need the full description for them

I have noticed there was a belt tensioner made for the centre or long belt...was there one made for the external belt - or small belt.

[pleaseletmeon34]

Yes you have the older model.
I should have a parts list but it might be the same thing you have.
Yes there is a side/middle belt tensioner. Part #SPW-58 will fit both the GP-Spider and the MKII. The front belt tensioner would only fit the GP-Spider and was called "radio tray support" or something like that. The MKII had a rear belt tensioner that can be adapted to the older model.

[Mustang5L5]

Well i'm back it's been a while.

One last part i need to get my GP-10 back on the road is an FD-49 flywheel. Anyone have one sitting around? Thanks

[pleaseletmeon34]

Mustang are you using a pullstart engine? And how about a single speed? If you are try using this setup (not sure it will work with a two speed). If you want to use this on a non-pullstart engine you will have to mill the mounts down (what I did). The HPI flywheel is much smaller than the Kyosho part. You might be able to use the FW-05 / RRR mounts instead of milling yours down (these weren't out at the time I was running the car).

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM760&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM719&P=M
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXM720&P=7
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLW03&P=M

You can also use the HPI single speed clutch bell of your choice.

[Mustang5L5]

I'm using a pullstart OS 12 engine and the 2-speed tranny.

The only prob i have is that the pinion gear protrudes out too far with the stock flywheel used for the kyosho engine. I need to pull it back a tiny bit using the FD-49 flywheel that i need to achieve proper alighment.

I want to try to find the correct part before i resort to other means. I realize it's tough when looking for parts for a 10+ year old discontinued model.

I also realize the 2-speed may or may not be able to handle the power of the OS engine. I have the original single speed driveline if i need it and have the alum. pullied i bought from you a while back
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic.php?u=11130S5RAi&i=275268

[pleaseletmeon34]

The setup I showed above isn't drastic. I raced with that setup and a modified FD-49 (turned down to almost the size of the clutch bell). I just never tried it with the two speed. I don't have any FD-49's except the modded one. That part fit a LOT of cars when you added an optional engine. Cars from the 90's to into the 00's and probably some present models. Try Kyosho America. I just checked on Kyosho's site, its still available 683YEN.

I was wondering if you got the pulleys. I wrote to you but never herd anything.

[Mustang5L5]

Oh yes sorry. That was so long ago i dunno why i never wrote back. Got them and they are installed on the car.

Took some time off with the busy summer to do some other things. Now that winter is here i have time so i want to get the car running for the spring time so i can run it around a bit.

So Kyosho still has it? I tried Tower and they said discontinued so i assumed it would be tough to get. I'll check it out thanks!

[hp740]

Does anyone know where to get a replacement spur gear for a 2-speed trans?

I need first gear... Anyone know part number? 39431-??something?

TIA

[pleaseletmeon34]

That number doesn't look right for this car.

Stock gears that come with the 2 speed
1st = 39305-3 (43t)
2nd = 39305-4 (40t)

Optional
2nd = 39305-8 (37t)
2nd = 39305-9 (38t)
2nd = 39305-10 (39t)
2nd = 39305-11 (41t)

edit: that number is the correct# for the 2 speed assembly "39431"

Just checked, 39305-3 (43t) is no longer available from Kyosho JP. Have to find some one with NOS.

[pleaseletmeon34]

I looked it up another way, 39305. It looks like most of the 39305-#'s are still available.
Your part came back as 39305-03 :eek:

Sorry about that, it is available 525 YEN

[hp740]

Hey THANKS...

I was actually bidding on a 39305 spur on ebay because it "looked" like the one in my car... But I wondered why it didn't have a 39431-# pn.

There are a handfull that are on ebay so it won't be problem getting one - now I know it's the right one....

Thanks.

[pleaseletmeon34]

No problem

I put a few of these together an replaced 2nd gear often (thats why the number didn't look right). I still have the instuctions, and the numbers I listed are on the last page. Only three parts does that number carry over.


39431-2 clutch bell
39431-3 Main shaft
39431-4 Collar washer set

The gears that come with the kit are

39305-03
39305-04

[powerdrifter]

Any know where I can get the rear and mid drive belt for the MKII?
and may be the small gears that is driving the belts? Any substitute
I can use from other cars? Thanks

[pleaseletmeon34]

The rear belt and pully part numbers are.

Belt TM-17
Pulley SP-50
Optional belt (kevlar)
SPW-71

There was optional aluminum pullies, if you look back through here you probably find the number. I don't know of any thing else that will work. Where are you located? I "might" have some TM-17's.

[powerdrifter]

Can I get those part from any online store? I'm in VA

The rear belt and pully part numbers are.

Belt TM-17
Pulley SP-50
Optional belt (kevlar)
SPW-71

There was optional aluminum pullies, if you look back through here you probably find the number. I don't know of any thing else that will work. Where are you located? I "might" have some TM-17's.

[pleaseletmeon34]

powerdrifter, you have a PM


You might find the parts you are looking for online, if someone has them in stock. I don't think they are available anymore. Your best bet is to contact Kyoshoamerica, they will be able to tell you if they are.

[Mustang5L5]

Hey sorry to bring this back to the top again. Been tied up with my other hobbies (i race real cars) so now time to finish the GP-10 i have.

All i need is an FD-49 flywheel. Anyone have one or know where i may be able to locate one?

[pleaseletmeon34]

Still available from Kyosho, 683 YEN. Should be able to get it from Kyosho America or anyone that deals with Kyosho.

[Mustang5L5]

Tried searching through Kyosho American and couldn't find it. Did some google searching and still can't locate one. I've been staking out Ebay for one but nothing yet. Any ideas on where i can order one?

[pleaseletmeon34]

http://www.shopatron.com/search/410.0?q=fd49&x=25&y=10 Here it is at Kyosho America.

That flywheel came on and fits soooooo many models they have to be around. It probably fits some of the newer lesser perfomance models too. The only one I have is on my old spider. Its been turned down to about 30mm (I think, been about 10 years). But I had also milled the mounts down to use it on a starter box.

[Mustang5L5]

Damn i dunno why i couldn't find it! I spent a good amount of time searching.

Just ordered. I just need to get a tuned pipe setup and i should be set to go (a year later :D ).

Thanks


Almost afraid to drive it considering how tough parts are to find now. :(

[Garrett85]

Hi!!

I have an old Kyosho Pure Ten Spider MKII, i need some optionals parts like carbonium radio plate and rear carbonium suspension mount. Anyone can help me?? Where I can found these products?? I try on various Ebay but i didn't find anything...:(

[pleaseletmeon34]

Good luck...ebay. If I remember correctly the shock towers from the GP spider fit too. I can post the part numbers if you need them?

[Garrett85]

Thanks, I have all parts number that I need... :(

[thatferrariguy]

Hey everyone, I'm new here and thought I'd share some photos of my MkII WC Edition over the years. I'm also looking for the special main chassis, part number SPW-50. I've looked at shopkyosho.com and some various sites, but no luck. If anyone has any info on this, please let me know.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thatferrariguy/Kyosho%20GP%20Spider%20MKII%20World%20Cup%20Editio n/th_100_0110.jpgClick for slideshow (http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thatferrariguy/Kyosho%20GP%20Spider%20MKII%20World%20Cup%20Editio n/?action=view&slideshow=true)

[fastharry]

Hey everyone, I'm new here and thought I'd share some photos of my MkII WC Edition over the years. I'm also looking for the special main chassis, part number SPW-50. I've looked at shopkyosho.com and some various sites, but no luck. If anyone has any info on this, please let me know.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thatferrariguy/Kyosho%20GP%20Spider%20MKII%20World%20Cup%20Editio n/th_100_0110.jpgClick for slideshow (http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thatferrariguy/Kyosho%20GP%20Spider%20MKII%20World%20Cup%20Editio n/?action=view&slideshow=true)


I have the Gp and the MK 2.....both are FULLY loaded,with spares...I think I might have 2 of those chassis.....I'm in the process of going through all my stuff(135 rc cars,kits,parts,and options).....

I'll post here...

one thing I know I do have is front belts......they were REALLy tough to find 2 years ago....I bought the last 6 tower had,......

[spiderwc]

im glad to see this thread i started 5 years ago is still going. pretty kool!

[crazy4wdracer]

I've never seen one of these until now, they are pretty cool!

[fastharry]

Hey everyone, I'm new here and thought I'd share some photos of my MkII WC Edition over the years. I'm also looking for the special main chassis, part number SPW-50. I've looked at shopkyosho.com and some various sites, but no luck. If anyone has any info on this, please let me know.

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thatferrariguy/Kyosho%20GP%20Spider%20MKII%20World%20Cup%20Editio n/th_100_0110.jpgClick for slideshow (http://s113.photobucket.com/albums/n239/thatferrariguy/Kyosho%20GP%20Spider%20MKII%20World%20Cup%20Editio n/?action=view&slideshow=true)



Nive looking spyder......I'm gonna get mine and post a few pics for you guys of both my spyders....Mk1 and Mk 2......

BTW,you have the head on that cv 12 pointed the wrong way...

[mk2gtigolf16v]

Hiya, ive had a GP SPIDER MKII 4wd for a good few years, but its had a damaged engine,

apparently a stone got into it and killed it,

Anyway lots of dust sat on the car, i want to buy a new engine for it, does anyone know where an how much a new GS11R engine is, i think thats what the engine was called.

Any help greately appreciated, :) :D:flame:

[fastharry]

Hiya, ive had a GP SPIDER MKII 4wd for a good few years, but its had a damaged engine,

apparently a stone got into it and killed it,

Anyway lots of dust sat on the car, i want to buy a new engine for it, does anyone know where an how much a new GS11R engine is, i think thats what the engine was called.

Any help greately appreciated, :) :D:flame:


I put an OS CV in mine.......and Ithink I still have a brand new 11r...if you'd like,I can check....

[mk2gtigolf16v]

Yes please check, ive not driven my car for a least 3 years, its just collecting dust,

How much would u want for the engine?

[fastharry]

Yes please check, ive not driven my car for a least 3 years, its just collecting dust,

How much would u want for the engine?

let me see if I have it first........

[mk2gtigolf16v]

lol yeah sounds like a good idea,

[mk2gtigolf16v]

have you found it pal?

[Pete®]

I've got an old mk1 and mk2 spider chassis which have not been raced in years. I fancy getting back into driving again. I used to have an OS 15cv engine in ithe mk1, but it's seen better days so I plan on getting a new engine. Is the OS 18CV-RX a small block engine, and is it any good? I'll maybe get enough power to make use of my silly gear ratios in the 2 speed box which my old engine struggled with :)

[Pastulio71]

Still racing mine, is anyone out there doing the same. I have own several throughout the years. Open to chatting and sharing pictures.

[Pastulio71]

Still racing mine, is anyone out there doing the same. I have own several throughout the years. Open to chatting and sharing pictures.