wild dagger forum

[zombieslayer]

post anything you want about the wild dagger.
need info??
post here.
if i dont know the answer to your question,ill find out.
post pics and vids.
:D

[MaxxQbn]

Thinking about adding a Wild Dagger to my collection. I have an E-Maxx and a TXT-1.

I want to make a project out of the Wild Dagger. My question is what is the lowest turn motors you can use without burning the gears.

By the way, it's about time someone started a thread for this underrated machine.

[zombieslayer]

the only limit to motor turn on the dagger is your imagination.
and a set of these http://www.thundertechracing.com/motormnt.htm
the trannys on the dag are bulletproof.
i bought my dag off of a guy on ebay,and i looked like he never greased the tranny,both metal diffs were seized,but the other gears were like new.

[dont slow down]

hey cool, mine just came in on friday, and i love it. this thing will go over anything. i already have a list of things to do to it. i was thinking about putting in some stock emaxx motors cause i hear they have a lot of torque. then some better tires and wheels, a new body, i saw a awesome excursion body on one on ebay, but i have a question, when i do rock crawling, sometimes the front right and the left rear get loose and all the power from the motors just goes to those wheels. is there anything i can do to keep that from happening? i should have some pics soon so when i get them ill put them up. this is cool, lets keep this thread alive.

[zombieslayer]

there are two ways to eliminate the unloading of the diffs.
1.limited slip(fill the diffs with heavy grease)(i use multi-purpose lube gel from radioshack(stock no.64-2326) its like $4.00 works like a charm)
2.posi-traction(fill the diffs with hot glue)best for rock crawling.
(note you will not have any diff action with the hot glue way)
i recommend you stay off pavement

[Possumbot]

wouldn't it make the wd a wicked dragster with posi diffs? turning would b hard, very hard, but it would b fast.

[dont slow down]

i think ill go the greese way, just in case i change my mind and want the diff action. i tried mounting my oil shocks and ill have to make some custom standoffs but when its done it will be way better.

[MaxxQbn]

Besides E-Bay, does anyone have any ideas where to buy a WD cheap?

[dont slow down]

well i just finished putting the thickest greese i could find in our garage and it feels much better, i still have to put it in the front diff but ill have to wait till tomorrow to do it. i saw a WD on ebay a while back and it had aluminum arms, does anybody know what car they were ment for or where i can get some?

[zombieslayer]

you want aluminum you got aluminum.
http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/catalog2.cgi?make=Tamiya%20Truck&car_id=71&abbreviation_show=gpm
these are made just for the dagger.

[dont slow down]

oooooo, me like. well i had better start saving some money. umm i didnt see front aluminum arms, but they are the same as the rear right? so if i got 2 sets of rear arms, id be ok? hmmm this is going to be fun.

[zombieslayer]

the front arms are shorter than the rear arms.
there is a listing right under the rear arms,but no pics.

[dont slow down]

hey i saw the front arms, but they are in purple! i dont want purple, i want blue, i cant just get two sets of rear? and when will they be in stock?

[zombieslayer]

well if you look at the rear arms the pic shows blue,but the description says purple.
no you can not use rear arms in front,your wheels would bow in at the top and the dog bones would not reach your drive cups.

[dont slow down]

ok, the pic for the rear showes blue, but says purple, so the front are blue then too? and any idea of when they will be in?

[creep]

Does anyone know how to mount Clod or TXT-1 wheels on a Dagger? I need some universals or CVDs cause my dogbones keep twisting and breaking. Does anyone have some, if so how do they work?http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=596140

[zombieslayer]

i have e-mail hobby ect about when the front arms will be in stock.
ill let you know when they e-mail me back.

[zombieslayer]

if you think your bones are twisting or breaking now just wait untill you mount the clod wheels,that said.
hobby tec has cdvs http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/catalog2.cgi?make=Tamiya%20Truck&car_id=71&abbreviation_show=gpm

[creep]

I'm gonna have to get those.

[dont slow down]

hey do either of you have a parts list? i need to order some replacement screws for the front hubs. the holes were stripped and i lost 3 of the 4 screws that hold them on the c carriers. if you could get me a copy i would really appreciate it. thanks

[zombieslayer]

i dont have the manual but...
if you want a jpeg of the parts break down and parts list,e-mail me at scot827@netscape.net

[zombieslayer]

free pic hosting at www.picturetrail.com

my king dagger

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=908056&uid=591402&members=1

[creep]

Dang, just busted a lower arm last night:mad: I also wasted my last set of dogbones too.

[Possumbot]

has n e body tried the xtreme rc chassis parts?

[zombieslayer]

i got the xtreme shock towers for 4" shocks.
paired with t-maxx shocks sweeeet.
only $25.00 at www.stormerhobbies.com

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well i found a nice big crack along the front of one of my front hubs, so today i ordered the aluminum ones from that online hobby place you posted about. i cant wait till they get here, too bad i can only afford ups ground. oh well i guess they are worth the wait.

[zombieslayer]

i dont know anything much about the aluminum parts from hobby ect,just that some other guys love them.
please post your review of them after you run with them so the other guys know if they are a worthy upgrade.

[dont slow down]

ill be sure to put up my opinion after i installed them and stuff. today i got some rpm slingshot rims and it makes the truck look 10x better. i put regular masher tires on them and it looks awesome. i think my next upgrade will either be oil shocks or a excursion body. if you want to put the rims on, be sure you get them for a traxxas nitro rustler or stampede, and get two sets of rear. they fit directly on and are a nice upgrade that sparks up the look of the truck.

[zombieslayer]

oh man,i would love to see your truck.
you gota post a pic.

[dont slow down]

well i dont have a digital camera or a scanner so im going to have to take a regular pic of it and then have a friend scan it for me so it will be a while till i have a recent pic of it. all i have is a pic from ebay that was put up on the auction. it doesnt look like much but since then i have put on some flame stickers on the hood and it looks a bit better. well until i can get some good pics you will have to wait.

[dont slow down]

here is another. do you have any pics of yours?

[zombieslayer]

here is mine,hope this works

http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=908056&uid=591402&members=1

nowhere near done,never will be!

[dont slow down]

yours looks a little plain. imo you should put some stickers on it, unless you are going for a scale look. maybe you should get some rpm wheels too. lol but hey its your truck and i bet it performs better than it looks. what body is that anyway? i like the roll bar in the bed.

[dont slow down]

oh you know what would be really cool, if you added a full light set on the top of the roll bar and in the headlights and tail lights. i was about to buy some lights for mine but went for the wheels instead.

[zombieslayer]

that bodys from the king blackfoot.
its not painted yet.
it has headlights.
i am going to get the ram rollbar light set for it.
you said the traxxas nitro stampede rear wheels fit the dag,so im thinking of getting the pro-star chrome wheels from traxxas.
the tires are from the stampede too,they came on it,i also got my dag off of ebay.
i have added somthing to my pic,check it out,tell me what you think.

[zombieslayer]

let me try this again,i wish i could put this pic under my user name.

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL44/591402/908056/10682842.ptp

[dont slow down]

it didnt work, i cant see it. but i found out that the stock hex's on the dag are too wide and when i was driving today i lost a couple of wheels, the wheels came with hex's so i put those on and they stayed on, however, i noticed that the truck is a little narrower, which i dont like. yeah the light bar is going to look awesome. i had a scarey moment today. i was driving in my backyard, in a empty garden and the screw that held on the hub came off and i lost the front dogbone. i was really luck i found it. but i did so im happy now.

[zombieslayer]

i cant post a pic like you did,where the pic is seen on the page.
what wheel did the screw come off of.
was it the king pin screw.
i have heard that the king pin screws come off.
tamiya makes a light weight set that will fit the dagger.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LP3514&P=X

[dont slow down]

no it was the screw that goes through the c carrier and into the hub. like i said, it is cracked and the screw cant bite into the plastic, oh btw, your pic worked, must have been my comp. what did you add? i didnt notice anything diff.

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forgot the pic.

[zombieslayer]

is the screw your talking about m01.
because that is the kingpin.
but if your hub carrier is cracked,it wont matter,you need new ones.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LP3563&P=X

[zombieslayer]

pic

http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL44/591402/908056/10682842.ptp

[dont slow down]

i think there is something up with the pics you post cause i cant see that one either but i can see the one above it. the screw that keeps falling out is the one circled, if its called the kingpin then i apologise but i didnt think that was what it was called. the hub carrier is split along the front and down the side of the screw hole, so when i try to tighten down the screw the plastic seperates and the screw stripps out. but i have lost two of the four of those screws. they are the ones that have the bushing thing on the base of the screw. so im going to need some, so the part # is m01? i couldnt make out the # on the pic you gave me cause when i zoomed in it was all distorted.

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forgot the pic again.

[zombieslayer]

yeah thats the king pin.
if you need king pins,or other parts,(towers parts express).

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/listxprs/tamc0941.html

for just the king pins.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LP3514&P=X

for just the hub carrier or uprights as tower calls them.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?Q=1&I=LP3563&P=X

i dont know why my pics keep coming out as a small red x.

[zombieslayer]

just ordered my 7 cell pack and a set of these

http://www.gpmd.com/images/trac4172.JPG


in case the pic did not work check here

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=lxzs52&FVPROFIL=++&search3=Go

[zombieslayer]

all i can say is wow.
you guys got to try this.
im just running two DuraTrax Photon Speed Motor 20x1 and 20 tooth pinions.
on 6 cells with the 20t pinions it lacks punch but add that extra cell and look out!

[dont slow down]

i got the hubs and they are cool. ill post a bit more about them later. how did you fit 7 cells in there? i have a hump 7 cell pack but it wont fit in the slot. how did you do yours?

[dave56bug]

Here are some pics of my Wild Dagger,

Xtreme Chassis extended 2 inches
Traxxas EVX and Titans
Proline Masher2k's




http://www.fototime.com/85023A4EC02DB81/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/026E5845565DD86/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/13657F6397599FC/standard.jpg

http://www.fototime.com/8045A4248D8B00F/standard.jpg

Dave

[dave56bug]

Heres another pic.

Dave

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Hi guys!

I just got a wild Dagger from a friend.. it's used and a little abused.

The only signs of abuse is the scratched bottom, any other thing is well, oh and the body is bad, painted on the inside and then on the outside.. but still presentable.

All stock but equipped with ball bearings.

What can you suggest an ESC I upgrade to? I am at awe with the twin motor set-up, can an ordinary ESC handle twin stock motors in parallel connections?

I'll post my pics soon...

I am all ears...

[bluesy]

Dongskie...... My daughter's fiance has one of those and I got a Rooster for him and it works like a charm. It handles both stock motors just fine. I would imagine that a Super Rooster would be a better ESC down the line ...specially if you are gonna add some hotter motors. Hope this helps......:cool: :cool:

[Dongskie Pinoy]

bluesy: thanks for the advice... i'll go for your suggestion... :)

[dont slow down]

i have a lrp f1 pro reverse and i think that would work better. it can handle 2 motors and it has no motor limit. it is a bit more expensive than a super rooster though.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

What do you think of the LRP Truck Digital, it has reverse too... :confused:

[krisI.925]

i was using a rebel reverse with 2 19T doulbes in my WD. It handled them fine and i had no problems. Great ESC for the money but i dont think they make them any more.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

I'm thinking of using the Mechanical Speed Controller for the moment that i do not have an ESC yet, did your original box stock Wild Dagger came with MSC? I am afraid this will heat up with the twin motor load.

http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/wild_dagger/chassis.jpeg

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Just a few pics of my all stock Wild Dagger:

[Dongskie Pinoy]

And another...

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Another...

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Lastly...

[dave56bug]

The mechanical speed control the Dagger comes with can easily handle two stock johnson motors, but anything above that will strain the msc and it'll either burn up, or melt the chassis. :)

There are a lot of esc's out now a days that can handle two mild modified motors, but i would suggest the Novak Super rooster, because if you choose to go with some "fast" motors, you'll need the power handling abilities, and its just such a smooth controller..... can be had for $90 on Ebay.


Dave.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Dave56bug: Thanks for the ideas... now my ESC choices are widening... LRP ESC's are easier to find here in Manila.... Novak's line of ESC aren't that readily available yet... just most of the low end, entry level esc...

Hoping to run my WD soon!

Thanks again!!

[yingying]

i was thinking of buying a wild dagger and i want to know if i can put txt 1 tires from imex on it and where to find bodies and what truck bodies fit it oh and can i put 2 battery packs in it for longer run times without melting anything

[dont slow down]

imex is starting to make 2.2 tires, and those will fit on a dagger, as for the dual battery, it would need some chassis moding to make it work but ive seen it done.

[yingying]

is there anything i can use to water proof the wild dagger

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Originally posted by yingying
is there anything i can use to water proof the wild dagger

If you wanna run your WD on wet surfaces... better run it with the MSC mechanical speed controller....

[krisI.925]

Originally posted by yingying
is there anything i can use to water proof the wild dagger

You can not "water proof" your wild dagger but you can make it water resistant. I do it to all my trucks during the winter. Its not that hard to do just make sure you have high quality SS or chrome bearings and you seal your servos. And you also need to wrap your reciever in a balloon or seran wrap or something. Your probably gonna have to make a make shift cover for your ESC tho. And as for the motors i just usaly take toilet paper rolls and cover them in electrical tape and put them around the motors. I usualy keeps them pretty dry.

[crayon]

Are the RPM rims like the Slingshot or Clawz a direct fit on the Wild Dagger?

[Justo]

Hey guys.

What motors are people running in their daggers these days?

I used to have a couple of crappy 13T motors in mine. Just looking for some ideas as to what to go for keeping in mind I can only use the stock gearing.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Any more pics to see?

[crono man]

hi all!

im thinking of getting a wild dagger but was wondering what so special about these trucks?

does it have enough travel if i upgrade with oil shocks?

any input would be greatly welcomed:)

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Originally posted by crono man
hi all!

im thinking of getting a wild dagger but was wondering what so special about these trucks?

does it have enough travel if i upgrade with oil shocks?

any input would be greatly welcomed:)

You tell it when you have one...

Install a set of shox wit 3 to 4 inches of travel and you'll feel like driving an EMAXX...

[krisI.925]

iv got 4 inch oil shocks on my WD but 3 inch ones suit it much better. It doesnt have the greatest suspension travel but its still works and is good for crawling and jumping. BTW this truck was my very first RC.

Pros.
-indestructable. (hit head on with almost any other RC truck out there and the WD will come on top)
-more power than the average stadium truck
-endless possibilitys such as 4ws, has the power to turn the biggest tires, tranny can take any power combo, dual batteries can be used to.
-Great price for a dual motored monster. For the amount of the truck and radio stuff you still have enough money left over to make it out-perform the e-maxx.
-Add some bigger and better shocks and some bigger tires the truck is the same size as a maxx.

Cons.
-Rims are a bit week
-hard to find parts where I live
-2 possible pinion sizes with out a motor mount upgrade
-no bearings, which makes a huge difference in performance and run time.

Hope this helps ya out. And BTW if you reall want to go for the gusto get the TXT-1. I love mine, it currently goes like 8mph but its still a blast to drive.

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Hi guys!!

I just can't stop running my Dagger pack after pack...

I realized I cannot benefit from installing a Tamiya Type T motor at the front coz the rotation is reversed...

Any suggestions?

[krisI.925]

reverse the wires :rolleyes:

[Dongskie Pinoy]

Originally posted by krisI.925
reverse the wires :rolleyes:

Yeah that's what I did, but the motor runs in reverse direction and the timing advance is for the other direction.... but Type T motor timing is non adjustable... I guess i'll go for P2K...

[dont slow down]

hey, its been a while since ive been here, but anyway, i finally fixed my dagger. well if you look back a page or two, i got the front aluminum hubs, and well, they look cool, but they suck. if you turn all the way to the right or left, at full speed in forward, the dogbones pop out. same thing in reverse. its a real pain in the butt. so i finally figured it out. i got some springs from my local ACE hardware and cut little springs and put them in the cups and now they dont pop out. i also put some oil filled shocks on the rear and it gave it quite a big "lift". but when i put them in the front, the steering linkages were binding on the gearbox. anything i can do to fix this? any of you have that prob?

[tuck327]

I Wont to see what you guys think, I order some part for my son King Black Foot and I tried to put in a ESC for my self. Sence all the money went for his truck I had to go cheap I went for TRaxxas XL1 it can stand 4-7 and 17T. I am running the peak spitfire Blue print. Do you guy think it will hold up are should i send it back. Order from Tower Hobby seem some other ESC I liked on other site but Tower Hobby did not have them.

[zombieslayer]

matt Verrochi's custom dagger!
from www.mattsrcstuff.com (http://www.mattsrcstuff.com)
ill need to get an evx and titans.
here are some pics

http://www.hpphoto.com/rs/7EF9243F-EE16-11D6-B42D-0090277A760E/screen

http://www.hpphoto.com/rs/7EF92440-EE16-11D6-B42D-0090277A760E/screen

"now thats what im talkin about"

scott

[zombieslayer]

send that esc back!
its a piece!
if you are looking for a good esc try duratrax esc's 13 turn or less.
i have a used futaba mc330cr 13 turn
for sell right now.
its real small and works great.
i would take 55 shipped.
if you want it email me at zombieslayer@zoominternet.net

scott

[tuck327]

Zombieslayer what type of tires are you useing are they the Imex? And do they fit the stock size rims.

[zombieslayer]

those are imex pullers,they stick like glue.
and they will fit the stock rims.
heres a link
imex (http://imex.clodparts.com/catalog2.2.html)

scott

[zombieslayer]

well,got a new evx for $85 off of ebay.
just landed two new titans from shunned.:cool:

scott

[tuck327]

Well I sent the TRaxxas XL1 back and Im getting the Duratrax 8T. Does any of out there have a dagger with top end speed? I bought the Robinson Racing Pinion 48P 20T have not use it waiting on the speed control. Going to use an 7 cell. Running peak spit fire 27T and were can you buy and amature maybe I could get two 19T amature.

[zombieslayer]

Does any of out there have a dagger with top end speed?
well im tring for 30 mph with the evx,titans and duel 7 cell packs.

I bought the Robinson Racing Pinion 48P 20T have not use it waiting on the speed control
make sure your pinions are metric.

dont know about the amature's.

scott

[civicds]

hey whats up here is a pic of my dagger its all stock but its still a dagger.

[huasze]

hey zomebieslayer, how'd you get 7 cells on the dagger? mine fits only 6 cell stick packs. where do you put your cells or you modded it? i'm figuring how i can make the WD longer and bigger, it looks awful small next to my terra crusher.

[zombieslayer]

a 7 cell pack will fit the wild dagger chassis,but you must use the 7 cell packs with the 7th cell on the end not the hump packs.
it must be like this ===|.
it will slide in only one way and you will have to secure it with rubber bands or some type of strap.
ill post some pics of my dagger as soon as i get my pic host working again.

scott

[zombieslayer]

ok guys here are some pics,there not great but better then nothing,i guess my digital cam gave up the ghost,i used my web cam to take these.

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger8.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger7.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger6.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger5.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger4.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger3.jpg

scott

[huasze]

that's a nice '53 ford body! my stuff is mainly stock though. i stay in singapore. here, the tamiya kits are really cheap, but parts are relatively expensive. a txt-1 sells for the equivalent of $280USD, and a wild dagger just under $100. those nice aluminum stuff aren't so readily available here!

[huasze]

here's what i have. the dagger is next to the terra crusher. the other 2 are a hpi nmt and a tamiya madcap. nearly everything is stock.


http://web.singnet.com.sg/~huasze/remotes.jpg

[zombieslayer]

nice trucks you got there.

my dagger is far from stock.
it has
custom aluminum chassis
custom aluminum shock towers
traxxas t-maxx shocks
traxxas/novak evx
traxxas titan motors
traxxas tq3 radio
futaba ball bearing servo
full ball bearings
tamiya light weight king pins
tamiya aluminum hex hubs
tamiya king blackfoot rims
imex puller tires
:D
im in need of some kind of wheelie bar,it will flip on its lid in forward or reverse.
thinking of buying the stampede wheelie bar by esp and trying to make it fit the dagger.
ill be getting my 7 cell pack any day now,ill let you guys know how that works out.

scott

[krisI.925]

For my CAD class I am going to design a tub frame chassis for my WD since it is just sitting in a box in my closet i figured I would make a project out of it. What do you guys think would make a could chassis set up. 4 link suspension perhaps or something else I dont know. I dont want to go to extravagant but something small and different.

[huasze]

okay, i just modified my wild dagger to take 2 batts in parallel. it runs 20 mins WOT on a 2000 and 1400 combined. the motors are stock. all i did was to shift the electronics so the receiver dropped into the rear cavity and the ESC was mounted in front, then put the 2nd battery over the deck in front-to-back fashion and secure it with removable cable-ties.

[huasze]

zombieslayer, your pics could be clearer! just get a touchup program like mgi photosuite or something. here's what i did to your pic.

http://web.singnet.com.sg/~huasze/dagger3.jpg

[zombieslayer]

i found a good free one online.
see if you think its any better.

scott

[zombieslayer]

ok i got another digital camera.
this one is my most costly one yet.
$40.00,what can i say im cheap :D
try these on for size.

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger01.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger02.jpg

http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/dagger03.jpg

also i ran it with the 7 cell packs today and wow,its silly fast must be going 35 to 40 mph :D

scott

[TXT Crazy]

My friends wild dagger.

-Novak Super Rooster ESC
-Full Ball bearings
-19 turn Reedy motors
-JR Python Radio
-Oil Filled Shocks
-FAST!!!!

[zombieslayer]

is that the esp bumper for the stampede on there.
how did he mount that?

scott

[TXT Crazy]

IT is ESP but not for a stampede it is for MAXX'S. IT does not fit on the wild dagger very well. IT is meant for my TXT-1. He was just trying mine out to see if he wanted to buy one. If he does buy one whick he most likely will . I have figured out how to mount a permanate(SP) aluminum mounting bracket, but for that night we used about 19 zip ties....lol..:D

[sledgeU812]

this will probably be a stupid question to u guys, but does one of the WD motors turn in reverse or not? my frineds' cousin wants to get one.

[zombieslayer]

yes,the front motor spin's in reverse.

scott

[sledgeU812]

what kind of motors do u reccomend for it then? i hear that he saw an acticle in an old rc car action where they took a WD and put on 2 reedy fury 9 turns, 2 novak atoms, and 2 7 cell packs. i was thinking 2 kyosho magnetic mayhem 22x1 motors to start out with until he gets an ESC.

[TXT Crazy]

15 17 or 19 Turns would be ok. 19 is just fine but if you go lower I would get an Msc

[zombieslayer]

19 and maybe 17 turn but any thing lower will require a smaller pinion,less teeth.
you will need ajustable motor mounts.
you will also need a esc with anything but stock motors.

scott

[TXT Crazy]

Not true. We ran for months with MSC with 19 turn motors.

[krisI.925]

I have also ran 19Ts with the stock MSC. It is better to get a ESC tho. And I would get something with some high rpms like the reedys or maybe stock triple motor or something like that perhaps.

[TXT Crazy]

Your right it is best to get ESC Just installed a super rooster in my friends. We run Reedy Badd Maxx Motors. They were cheap like $30 and they work great!

[sledgeU812]

how can u use these motors if one has to turn in reverse? and im just curious, would cham 2's b ok? i run one in my trucks for a bashing motor, and its a beast

[zombieslayer]

sledgeU812 you need motors with 0% of timing,the best motors are the speed gems because you can adjust the timing on those,they come from the factory at 0%.
i belive the cham 2's are a 24% motor with none-adjustable timing.

scott

[zombieslayer]

ok guys i have decided to revamp my custom dagger.
going for a new look.
i want more of a scale look so i added a set of imex g hawgs.
for the suspension i chose a set of tower aluminum big bores.
im getting the trinity monster springs for the maxx trucks,but for now ill use the good old reds that came with it.
im using the evx/titan 7 cell set up that worked so well so far.
i tried it out side today and it light up all four tires,now thats what im talkin about
im going all out for the body,shhhh its a secret
heres a pic so far.
http://zombiesplace.esmartweb.com/pics/project%20revamp4.jpg

scott

[hescott]

Hi Everyone,

I am very new to the hobby and have just finished building my dagger. It is completly stock except for a complete bearing kit. I would like to upgrade to a esc and new motors. I saw the traxxas evx and thought it would be a good choice. However I see it is set up for two batteries. Do I have to use both batteries, or is the super rooster a better choice. I am thinking of joining a local track and would like to be competitive with the emax, what are the best choice for motors. Thanks for the help.

Harold

:confused:

[TXT Crazy]

Ok I dont see how you could run 2 batteries in the dagger without serious modification. So the Super Rooster is a much better ESC anyway. I highly recomment the Super Rooster. And as for motors I recommend Reedy 19 turn motors like Badd Maxx motors or something. Anything with a lower turn would be over-kill. Hope this helps.

[zombieslayer]

TXT Crazy is right about the duel battery packs :D
but i would not use the badd maxx motors as these are 14.4 volt motors,they would be real slow and powerless on 7.2 volts.
a popular motor for monster trucks are the trinity speed gem sapphire 17 turn motors,just make sure you dont adjust the timing on them,there set at o% at the factory and you need to keep them at that setting for reverse rotation reasons.

scott

ps for more info on the wild dagger check out my faq at dagger talk (http://www.daggertalk.esmartweb.com/)

[hescott]

Thanks guys that helps allot.

Harold

[huasze]

its VERY easy to put 2 packs on the wild dagger without mods.
all you need to do is to put 1 in the batt slot, and the 2nd on the deck in a front-to-back direction. make way for it by placing your receiver down below, and the esc in front.

[zombieslayer]

dagger owners wanted
dagger talk (http://daggertalk.suddenlaunch2.com/index.cgi)

[nomad]

hey,i am a rally fan, and i wanted to make an escudo pikes peak rally car,using the wild dagger chassis,a couple 14 turn motors on an lrp f1 pro esc,and an hpi escudo body. has anyone ever tried this? also,would the tl01 long arm set make the track 200mm?

[nomad]

ok i just read that they wont widen it,so im ordering some hpi 3mm offset wheels.what shocks do you recommend to replace the friction shocks? i dont think i can do the 4 inch conversion cause the towers will probably not fit under the body,so what are the best value-for-price 3" shocks?

[dont slow down]

Here is a list of the modifications I have made to my Tamiya Wild Dagger:

JR Python radio and reciever
Cirrus high torque servo
full ball bearings
LRP F1 Pro Reverse speed control
RMP Slingshot rims
Traxxas stampede tires
Aluminum front hubs
Custom made tire chains (for when things get a little messy aka snow or mud)

[huasze]

anyone knows what longer suspension arms fit the TL-01? the long suspension set doesn't make a difference.

i don't want to have to make aluminum arms, that'd make the whole thing metal!

[Ped2003]

hers the setup i had on my old (Sold it) wild dagger.....
-super rooster
-(2) 17turn trinity motors
-full bearings
-airtronics radio
-shredder reciever
.........Crazy fast, and could conquer any hill!!

Man I wish i wouldnt of sold it....:(

[zombieslayer]

sorry i havent been here lately but i have been busy with jeff a maximizer.
http://wilddagger.esmartweb.com/pics/maximizer%20sig1.jpg
heres a link to there site.
maximizer (http://www.maximizerproducts.com/)

i have been talking to him about his maxx wheel adapters.
he i now making dagger to maxx wheel adapters.:D
you will need his x-75 offset beadlocks rims or any offset maxx rims his dagger wheel adapters and to trim the front bumper.
im doing a review of this mod at dagger talk forum (http://pub75.ezboard.com/femaxxzenfrm66)
heres a teaser pic.
http://wilddagger.esmartweb.com/pics/clod%20dagger0.jpg
note:this pic does not show the trimed bumper or offset rims.

scott

[Lexdog]

Can you use 2 Titan 550 motors in a Wild Dagger? I'm looking for the best motors to get for my Dag. Also what ESC is best for the two motor? All the ones I've seen that can run two motors also need two batteries.

[NeoGeo]

hey guys I'm new to rc I got a dag and I haven't been able to run it outside yet (snow day) but, how fast are they? can I water proof it?

[NeoGeo]

hello everyone the person whom I got my dagger from messed up the front knuckles now I am in desperate need of info on where (online) I can get not too costly new ones aluminum or plastic.

and I live in canada so remember exchange rates and shipping

ps. I went to hobby etc and I was going to get a pair of the aluminum knuckles from there and they were pretty expensive at first $36 (cad) and then to ship to canada it was an extra 26 (usd) so now I am desperate please HELP!!:( :( :(

[Janders]

Does anybody have any pics. I'm thinking about getting a WD, if the suspension travel is enough

[krisI.925]

Neo Geo try tower hobbies parts express. I think they carry just about every part for the dagger.

[Janders]

Can I just use the Tamiya MT aluminum shocks, and how much travel do they have?
Would I be better off making custom shock towers and running longer shocks, for bashing/rock climibing?

[Janders]

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLS97

[Janders]

I was actually suprised - It was pretty quick with the sub-par stock motors. I'm running them off of a Duratraxx 12T reverse. ESC. I am more than likely going to get the 8T reverse ESC(only $70 new!) and run 15 or 16T motors.
Does anyone know the current draw from a stock 27/23T, as compared to a 16T, 12T, or 8T? Where can I find a listing such as this?

Wow, 15+min w 2 motors(3000NiMH) = impressive

[Janders]

Not too many WD owners I take it. I ran my WD at the BMX track and had some fun(it's tough). I edited some video/jumping I did. Stock motors didn't have much air compared to my TB-01 rally(3ft. vs. 6ft. of air). I was running with a guy with a stock E-maxx. Large tires/big suspensio were the only differences.


Is there a conversion kit for E/T-Maxx tires. What mm are they?

[Janders]

What larger rims can my WD take to accomodate larger tires? I'm running 4" duratraxx shocks and 17T motors
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildgrass.JPG

[Janders]

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildgrass6.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildgrass7.JPG

Ahhh... new wheels and tires. IMEX Claw Dawgs on Duratraxx Wheels.
.
I love the way this handles with the 4' duratraxx shocks

[Lexdog]

Nice Dagger!!! I like those rims and tires!! How much did they cost? I need to get my Dagger running. I bought my Dagger on E-bay, but I need the tie rods for it. :)

[Janders]

the wheels were $20, tires were $30

[krisI.925]

i need some help with WD. Last weekend i brought my truck back to life but now im having problems with one of the rear dog bones always ejecting. Any of you guys have a solution for this problem. And BTW im using O rings in the drive cups. Thanx for any help.

[Janders]

I had the same problem with 4" shocks(are you running aftermarket suspension?).
I fixed it by using the smallest zip-ties I could find. I attached one zip tie around the center of the dogbone(loose enough where it doesn't drag on the spinning dogbone, but with the hole small enough to keep the ends of the dogbone from sliding through). I then attached another zip tie to this one, and put it through the hole in the middle of the upper arm(right in the middle, above the dogbone). I actually thought that this would keep the dogbones from getting lost when they pop out(and it does), but additionally it actually makes the dogbones pop out much less frequently. I'd take a pic, but I won't be home until later this week.

[Janders]

here's a pic of the zip ties on the dogbones
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wilddogbone.JPG

BOLT ON BIGGER TIRES!
5 1/4 tires and wheels from the Duratraxx Maximum MT PRO fit(I had TG10 axles with 5mm spacers, but they should fit without)
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwheels.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwheels2.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwheels3.JPG

[krisI.925]

the zip tie thing will probably only collect more debry than i normaly have. I think alls i need to do is just to space the rear shocks so they dont extend fully.

[Janders]

I haven't had any problems with anything getting caught in the zip ties and I've run in long grass/dirt/rocks/gravel, etc.

[Janders]

Just put on a new body..
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/yellowdagger1.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/yellowdagger2.JPG http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/yellowdagger3.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/yellowdagger4.JPG

[Lexdog]

Nice truck. Looks sweet with the new wheels and the new body. What are you going to do with the wheels and tires that you had on it before? Is that Ford Excursion body made for the E-Maxx? I didn't think the body would fit on a Dagger.

[Janders]

The Excursion is an emaxx body, only about an inch longer than the stock body(the stock body is short anyways). All you have to do (for the SUV bodies) is to extend the rear body posts(you can do this with just straws and old body posts). The maxx body actually came with extended body posts and clips. The chrome wheels on the truck now were the ones with the IMEX tires in the previous pics. I've still got sand paws waiting on more rims..

[Lexdog]

Does anyone have an instruction booklet for the Wild Dagger? I'd like to buy a copy of it if you are willing to sell. I need some part #'s out of it. :)

[Janders]

I can't give you my manual, but I can help you out, just describe the part, and where it goes.

[Lexdog]

I need the steering rods for the Dagger. The rods that connect to the steering servo. I have have not been able to find them anywhere to even order them. :(

[Janders]

it's part # 9805583
It comes in metal parts bag 'C' # 9415519 along with the rod end ball connectors, a few screws and ball studs/body mount clips and the MSC and resistor. ( I couldn't find either on tower)

If you just need the double threaded rod, just measure the length in mm(it's between 65 and 70mm, or 2 3/4) and search tower for shafts of the same length. It's doesn't have to be exact, as you can adjust length with the ball ends

these might work

65mm turnbuckle (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAMN3&P=7)
70mm turnbuckle (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAMN4&P=M)

[Lexdog]

That is just what I needed. Thanks for the help. I think you and I are the only ones on this Forum. Which one do you think I should get? I'm guessing the 70mm ones since the original ones are 72mm.

[Janders]

if the stock ones are 72(I tried to measure mine on the truck). Might as well get the 65mm ones too, since they're only $3.

[Lexdog]

Your probably right. They are only $3, so I might as well get both to see which ones work the best. I bought my Dagger on E-bay earlier this year, and I am try to get it going. Do you have the stock motors in your truck? Do you have an ESC or are you using just using the stock MSC?

[Lexdog]

I read one of your old post on the previous page and I see that you do have an ESC and upgraded motors. What kind of Duratraxx rims did you have in your first picture on the previous page? I really like how those look and I think I'll order those along with the steering rods from Tower.

[Janders]

The rims are from an MT pro,

MT wheels(2 for $11) (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRP22&P=7)

they are actually 2.5 in diameter, and the only direct fit tires are the MT ones

BIG MT tires( 2 for $18) (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRP21&P=M)

allthough, those low profile claw dawgs(designed for 2.2 rims) fit over them fine.

I'm not sure if the stock tires will fit on them(they should stretch on), and unfortunately my big MT tires are glued to the MT wheels, so I can't test fit the stock tires.

As you can see, from left to right
1.MT wheels2.5/MT tires
2.stock 2.2 wheels and tires
3.MT 2.5 wheel/ Imex 2.2 tire
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwheels.JPG

[Jimmy33]

ok going to start posting here as I i (almost :rolleyes: ) have a wild dagger

2 12 turn modified
RC Line no limit ESC
3inch shocks

[Lexdog]

How did you hook up your two motors to your ESC? I was thinking about getting the Futaba MC330CR with Reverse, but it only has one motor plug. :confused:

[Janders]

Before you buy an ESC, I suggest you get one that you'll never have to replace(i.e. if you upgrade motors). I have burned out 4 ESC's this year, because I went 'cheap'. I am getting my Novak Super rooster in the mail. What is the info on your ESC? I know 'no limit' refers to only one motor, the novak has 'no limit' but can only run 2 15T's in parallel(which is the most and highest load of any ESC I know). As for wiring, you run your motors in parallel; for the stock ones this means you connect and 'Y' the + of the front motor with the - of the back motor, and connect both those to the + lead of the ESC. You then 'Y' together the negative of the front motor with the + of the rear and connect those to the ESC's - lead. It's really much simpler than it sounds, I'll draw up a quick pic and post it.

[Lexdog]

The limit for the Futaba I mentioned is 13 turns. I am using this same ESC for my TA02, but it only has one motor. I would probably go with 2 17 turn motors in the Dagger.

[Janders]

here, see if this helps
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wiring.JPG

Oh, and as for current draw- two 5 amp motors will pull about 10 amps in parallel, and 5 amps or less in series

[Janders]

I'd be really careful about running 2 17T's on a 13T limit ESC. If it's not geared just right, and your motors aren't at 0* timing you run the risk of smoking your ESC. Believe me if I know one thing it's how to smoke ESC's:)

[Lexdog]

So besides the Super Rooster, what ESC would you recommend? To run two 17 turn motors, what turn ESC should I get? By the way that chart for the motors is great! I have a King Blackfoot and a TA02 so I never had to worry about the turns before. As long as ESC turns was below the motor turns I was ok. As far as ESCs go I have had good success with Futaba and would sort of like to stay with them if I could.

[Jimmy33]

so with two motors in parralel (!) it is like running one motor - so you will get half the running time :eek: There for - i should go for some higher turn motors - hmmm need a good turn of speed though - any clue on what turn I sould go for - 15t or 17t? any surgestions welcome! :D

[Janders]

Jimmy and Lexdog,
If I were you guys(since you both plan on running 12 or 13T ESC's I'd go with the 22T Magnetic Mayhem motors(they're supposed to be very torquey). Allthough you have to make sure you get one Magnetic Mayhem, and one Magnetic Mayhem Reverse. You could probably run 17T's, but it would cut down on your ESC life considerably. If you can afford it though-I would definitely spend the $110-120 for a superrooster. As for motors, the lower wind you go, the more low end that is lost(usually, as these motors are mostly designed for touring cars). Trinity D5's are supposed to be pretty torquey motors, allthough I'm not sure if they have adjustable timing(required for the WD). I'm going to try and modify the gearboxes to see if I can run smaller pinions, allthough the countersunk motor retaining bolts will make this hard.

[Jimmy33]

the 22t has now speed - I have one in my Blackfoot...

Hmm I think I will run stock for the time being maybe get some 19t

[Janders]

**Oops**
I'm sorry, I thought you had a 12T limit ESC.

2 X 17's with your no limit ESC should work fine, I think 15T's might be pushing it though.. Just check, and make sure your ESC doesn't get too hot after runs, you'll be allright. Before my ESC's burned out they worked great, but would be so hot that they would boil water off of them, and burn you if you touched them.

I run 17T Team Orion Rush 17 X 2's, allthough if I were to replace them I'd go with either a trinity D5(unfortunately they only offer 14 and below winds:() there's also a trinity 17X1(single wind = more torque). Honestly, to get the best motor info- check the TXT forum, and see what people are running(at least those that don't have the ever popular EVX/Titan 14.4 volt setup) I'd recommend that, except that 2 packs weigh too much for my tastes, not to mention that running two battery packs in series makes your run time that of the worst cell out of all 12!

[Jimmy33]

how low can the MSC go?

[Janders]

I think the MSC could probably handle almost any motor, allthough any modified motor with only 3 speeds would be hard to drive. Also, at such a high current load( dual 17's) the MSC might arc, and short. You'd probably have to clean it after every run, and the resistor might get so hot that it would crack...who knows. There is only one way to find out:) I'd try it, but I've broken and spent enough $$ this week.

[Janders]

I thought my lack of low end punch was due to my timing on my motors, or gearing that was too wide due to my oversized tires... than I changed ESC's. My truck is now much faster off the line, along with nose lifting takeoffs or 4 wheels spins, traction permitting:)
Super Rooster kicks Azz!

[Janders]

It's pretty dirty and hard to see in the pics, but it's angled both back towards the side, and down. It actually looks pretty good, the pics don't do it justice. It's also mounted at the stock bumper location.

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wild4.JPG
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wild3.JPG
Does any one else have any Wild Dagger pics?

[zombieslayer1]

i have these.
my second to last dagger.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/213125/dag4.jpg

and my last dagger.

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/213125/donecloddagger1.JPG

i have just recived a used dagger from ebay today.
i wonder what im going to do to it.:D

scott

[Janders]

I just took mine out today(it floats in water with the Maximum MT tires)

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwater2.jpg

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwater5.jpg

[one_mean_rc10gt]

zombieslayer1 - How do you like the Maxx size J hawgs on your Dagger? What adapter did you use to mount the Maxx wheels?


Janders - Sweet Dagger!!! What mods do you have on your Dagger?

[Janders]

You can just use tape or something else wrapped around the axle, and just use the larger Emaxx hex's for Emaxx wheels.

For Clod sized wheels thudertech makes adapters for $45

I limited my wheels to Maxximum MT size, as I could only reduce the gearing so much(without choppong the transmission.

As for my mods:
SuperRooster ESC($120)
Team Orion RUSH 17X2's in paralell($60)
Duratraxx 4" shocks on BX3(I think) shock ($30)towers($3)
Locked front and rear diffs
Hitec 645MG servo 107 oz/in.($40)(just broke it, no I'm back on the stock one)
Duratraxx 2.5" MT wheels and tires($50)
3-5mm spacers($2)
TG-10 long axles($5)
TG-10 stronger dogbones($7)
Emaxx excursion body($25)
Custom made body mounts
Custom made front bash plate

[Janders]

home.eartlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/ (http://home.eartlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/)


look for the .mp4 that has dagger in the title, I also have some rally vids(much more of both on my computer, but not online)

[Janders]

You can actually glue the clod wheels over the stock rims, as seen here
http://www.mattsrcstuff.com/wdagger2.htm

[one_mean_rc10gt]

Janders - Do you know the part number for the TG-10 dogbones?

Mine will be up in running in a week or so.... I am waiting for my huge order from towerhobbies.


8th_scale

[Janders]

9805551 , on the bag it says "Thunder Shot Drive Shaft set". They fit perfectly on the wild dagger(stock size), and are solid metal

BTW, sorry about the confusion, but these are NOT the TG-10 long dogbones, those are for the TB-01( I just listed the wrong part).

The TG-10 axles(longer thread for wider offsets) are part # 50808 "TG10 Long Wheel Axle"

[Janders]

you don't 'need' the dogbones, unless you break the stock ones. The TG10 axles are only needed if you want to use the MT wheels, or just increase the stance/width.

[zombieslayer1]

one_mean_rc10gt ,
it handels pretty good with maxx wheels and looks killer.
i used maximizer adapters get them here (http://www.maximizerproducts.com/Dagger.html)
you will need any offset maxx rim though.
im getting them for my latest dag.
going with a theme this time.:D

http://www.cliparthost.com/accounts/zombieslayer/zombiemonsterbeetle/zombie_beetle2.JPG

what do you guys think?

scott

[Janders]

Funny, because just 5 mins ago I aws just reading about those adapters for the first time, thanks to ****.net


edit:
****.net = r c m t.net without the spaces

[Janders]

I just blew up my gearboxes rockcrawling(14T pinion + Clod tires) and need new ones. LMK if anyone has spare gearboxes sitting around
I know I can get them new for $30 ea.
janders211@yahoo.com

I also have TB-01 rally TC, and Yokomo MR4-tc cars and parts to trade

[minijosh]

I just saw a rear one on ebay. go to main screen and type in wild dagger and it will be ending in like 30 min.

[Lexdog]

Janders,

I finally got my Dagger up and running. It took a while because I need some work done on my "real" car. What kind of 4 inch shocks did you put on your Dag. Also did you change your shock tower mounts? I also bought the MT wheels and tires. Did you have to change the gearing for the bigger tires? :confused:

[Janders]

I used duratraxx 4" shocks with the 18 tooth pinion when I ran MT tires. I have clod tires now, and tried to run a 14T 48P pinion, but it stripped out the spur :(

[Lexdog]

I'm going to order the 4 "Duratraxx Shocks, probably tomorrow. Did you change your shock tower mounts? It doesn't look like 4" shocks will fit on the standard one? If you did what kind you use?

[Janders]

I don't remember what kind, just go to your LHS, and find some that you can drill into the stock mount

[one_mean_rc10gt]

Get these shock mounts -

4" Shock Mounts (http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?stype=description&pn=wild+dagger)

I also have a complete Wild Dagger black G-10 Fiberglass chassis with shock mounts in exellent condition for $99.00 shipped.


one_mean_rc10gt@hotmail.com


Chassis looks like this one - Chassis (http://www.xtremercracing.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=112447&InfoID=2995&ShowLarge=True)

The pic is a carbon fiber model and mine is g10 fiberglass, they are the same style, just different material.

[minijosh]

Does anyone have a spare msc? I traded my HPI Mircro rs4 for a WD but no electronics except the 2 motors. Can anyone help me out or have a spare esc you are willing to sell. I just want to run stock motors so either way will be fine with me.

[minijosh]

does the wild dagger only need 20 bearings thru-out the whole truck?

[hanafuda]

This is my first post at this site so please forgive my noob status.

Anyway, I am pretty new to the R/C world (4 months) but already have a Tamiya Baha King and Wild Dagger. I only just got the Dagger. It is built but I haven't painted it yet. Should have that done in the next couple of days.

Just wondering what the general opinion of the Dagger is. Are most owners happy with it? It certainly looks awesome - I can't wait to take it out for a spin!

[minijosh]

hehe look what i found http://www. customrcmodels. com/id315.htm
just put the link together and drool you dagger fans. i want to order this!!!

[Lexdog]

Will shocks from the T-Maxx fit on the Dagger? :confused:

[hanafuda]

Can anyone recommend an ESC for the Wild Dagger with the following attributes please.

1 Good performance
2 Japanese brand
3 Easy to install on a stock kit

Thanks.

[WDGuy]

What would be the best hop-ups for a wild dagger besides: bearings , esc, magnetic-mayhems, locked diffs, and oil shocks.

[Performance RC]

Originally posted by hanafuda
2... Japanese brand...


You see, theres where ya run into trouble...good luck.

[Janders]

AS for hop ups:
I'd go with 4" oil shocks with custom mounts(easy to make).
Your mods from here on depend on what you want-speed, a rock crawler, a basher, etc. Personally I wouldn't waste my $$ on any replacement chassis' or anything CF unless you just want it for looks : /

[hanafuda]

The reason I am after a Japanese ESC is simply because I live in Japan.

As for the Super Rooster, could you give me more information on that one please. Would I have to import into Japan do you think?

Thanks.

[Janders]

made by Novak
It can handle any motor(no turn limit) and can run in reverse. I can even handle 2 X 15 T motors and some people say it can handle even lower(2 13 turns). I use the super rooster in all three of my cars including the dagger. It has good throttle control for low speed crawling too.

[Lexdog]

Can you use the Titan motors from an E-MAXX in the Dagger?

[Janders]

It's probably the most powerful setup you can get-Titans are tough....but for low speed control, crawling- the EVX is not as throttle sensitive as the Novak

[Lexdog]

I would need two batteries to power the Titan set up? I'm looking for speed more than rock crawling ability. I will be using my Dag mostly on pavement, grass and dirt. Not really climbing over anything more than a curb. Would the Titan set up get me more speed? Or should I just get the Super Rooster and some hot motors?

[Janders]

Definitely go with the titans/EVX(yes, you will need two packs)
FWIW at high speed the dagger gets VERY twitchy if you have larger tires-so I'd stick with the stock ones(or Maximum MT tires with road dawg tires) for speed-I'd also keep the low travel suspension(or oil TC shocks.)
FWIW my wild dagger with Clod wheels(huge &heavy) running a Super Rosster ESC with 15T motors is faster than I would ever want it too be, and is a capable crawler, allthough the gearing puts a lot of strain on the motors)

[Lexdog]

I installed the 4 inch shocks with the modified shock towers similar to yours. I love the way it handles and looks. I have the MT rims and tires, but have not put them on yet. I also have a Dodge Ram body E-Maxx body on it and it looks great!! I'll see how it handles then and decide. Do you have a pic of your Dag now with the Clod wheels? I'd like to see that. If I go with the EVX/Titan set up, where would I put the second pack? (I'm actually leaning towards a set up like yours, with the Super Rooster)

[Janders]

clodwheels
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/clodwheels.JPG

here's with MT wheels and an Emaxx body
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/yellowdagger2.JPG

[WDGuy]

How did you put the clod tires and wheels on? Did you just glue the clod wheels to the dagger wheels?

[Janders]

the 2.2 tires slide perfectly inside the clod tires, a little superglue and they're bonded like they were 1 piece. A hole must be drilled in the center of the clod rim for the lug nut to pass through..but I was suprised how easy it was to do. The truck is 100% more stable and better at crawling..it's about 3" wider now too. Top speed is insane...although it get's uncontrollable(flips if you try to turn it at that speed). On full out acceleration from a stop the rear squats so much that it's difficult to control as the front wheels barely touch the ground. Of course I have the truck setup-very loose for crawling with soft springs...If you run stiffer springs, thicker oil, etc the truck will be more 'street friendly'.

Oh, and the truck is amphibious-it floats and can cross a lake if you have the battery power.


Lexdog-
You can cut out the area right above the stock battery location and slide in a pack

[Lexdog]

So you just put the whole rim and tire in the Clod tire and glued it together? That looks great with those tires. What kind of rims are those? Are they the MT rims with the 2.2 tires on them? Did you put foam around the tire before you put it in the clod rim? (Sorry for so many questions!)

[Janders]

You can just slide the 2.2 rim inside the cold rim and use the clod tire and superglue them. There may be a small lip you have to remove with an exacto knife..but I can't remember. My clod wheels have worked great through some serious bashing and some not so pretty high speed crashes.
The rims/tires on the blue truck are from a clod. The wheels/tires on the yellow dagger are from a Maximum MT...the MT rims bolt right up and are 2.5...I have some MT wheels with 2.2 tires. I used no foam at all
Here's a pic(minus the clod wheels):
From left to right,MT wheel/tire, stock wheel/tire, MT wheel/2.2Road Dawg tire
http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/rccar/wildwheels.JPG

[narfer007]

Hi guys I'm new here and I'm from holland so my english isn't so good :D

I've got a complete stock Dagger But now I want to make a custom aluminium chassis for 2 battery packs does someone have a CAD drawing (with Dimensions) or does someone know where I can get one?

[hanafuda]

Janders - that is a fine looking truck. Are the body mounts something you constructed or can you buy those?

[Janders]

but VERY easy to make. I just got 1/4 aluminum tubing from the hobby shop and dremeled holes big enough for the retaining body clips to go through. I just slid them on thstock mounts and used spare mount towers to slide into the top. If this doen't make sense, let me know and I'll whip up a quick picture.

[WDGuy]

Im looking to get a WD. If anyone has one they dont need/want anymore I will buy it or trade my T3 for, but it will have to have mods for me to trade.

[Lexdog]

Janders,

Can you whip up that pic of your body mounts?

[Janders]

http://home.earthlink.net/~janders211/images/BODYMOUNT.JPG

[Bigcat40]

Hello everyone. I am looking for Upgrades for my Dagger. I love the truck and want to upgrade the chassis, arms, shocks etc. I already have two diamonds and a super rooster that make the dagger fly. Does anyone know of a place that has aluminum parts for the dagger. I looked on Hobbies Etc and other sites but I can't find aluminum arms or anything. Please help. After I get done the mods I will include pics. Also, does anyone know of a good tire/rim combination with metal hubs. The enigines are are spinning the tires on the rim. Any ideas you may have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!!

[minijosh]

I am trying to find a place somewhere in Europe I think that had aluminum hop ups. Give me a day or 2. Did you look thru all the dagger pages?

[minijosh]

http://mitglied.lycos.de/wloewer/id345. htm
just put the htm back into the address and you will be happy.

[Bigcat40]

I have checked out that site before, but I haven't heard back from them. They do not sell the Dagger products on-line and they are based in Germany. I found that hobbyetc.com has all the parts but, the arms, both front and back, are out of stock, and they do not plan on ordering anymore. Finally, I received an e-mail from gpmracing.com (Chin Ngai hobbies) stating they can get me the parts, but I haven't heard back from them. I have found almost everything from other sites except aluminum arms. If anyone knows of any other arms that are interchangeable, or work with the Dagger, it would be a great help. Thanks to everyone for their input.

[minijosh]

try RC4wd.com they have a carbon fiber chassis and a alloy one. No arms though but alloy wheels.
xtremercracing.com has stuff also. getting warmer???

[Janders]

mostly they just look nice.

The only aluminum parts which are truly useful, would be upper arms(keep flex down and keep dogbones from popping out). Of course if you want to be competitive on hard surfaces an aluminum chassis *might* be helpful, but foroffroad/mudding/climbing/squirrel chasing/etc. it's not of much use.

[narfer007]

hi guys here is a pic of mine all stock dagger I hope you like it.

[minijosh]

NICE DAGGER I am gonna throw my super rooster and 2 17 turns in mine to see how fast she will go.

[hanafuda]

I am thinking of putting two Tamiya Sport Tuned motors into my Dagger to replace the stock motors that came with the kit. Any reason I shouldn't do this? I think the Sport Tuned is 23T at 21000 RPM. Shouldn't be too much for the transmission right?

Also, any recommendation on the pinion? 19 or 21?

I am stuck with the stock mechanical speed controller for the time being.

[Lexdog]

I'm working on making by Dagger have 4 wheel steering like the Clod Buster. I have another Dag that I've been using for parts. Im going to take the steering off the other Dag get a reverser to split and reverse the steering servos, and i should be good to go. I'm also going to go with the Titan motor/EVX Esc from a EMAXX. My Dag should be a beast! :D

[minijosh]

Sounds like a winner Lexdog
hey hanafuda where u gonna buy those motors at? I seem to not be able to find any tamiya motors except the silver can motors and the black sport tuned ones. I had one of the sport tuned motors but it was a old sprint tuned version. How much are your motors??? I want one for my touring car.
I thought you can only use the 18 and 20 tooth pinions. Am I wrong? I know you can get motor mounts to allow you to use any.

[hanafuda]

Hey Minijosh.

I am in Japan, but I can get the Tamiya motors pretty easily, both from my LHS and mail order from Tamiya. The Sport Tuned is pretty cheap over here - 1500 Yen or 14 USD. I already have one in my Baha King, but am going to upgrade that to a Super Stock Type T, which leaves me with a spare Sport Tuned. If I buy one more I can upgrade the Dagger economically.

Lots of people prefer other brands for motors, but I haven't had any problem with my Tamiyas and I get good support from Tamiya too. The Sport Tuned in the Baha King has been good so far so I figure two of them should give the Dagger some extra speed, even though it won't have as much torque as it does with the 27T stock 540s.

As for the pinions - I could be mistaken as I get confused between the King and the Dagger. If the Dagger only takes 18 or 20 pinions, then I would like a recommendation on which of those to go with the 2 x Sport Tuned.

[minijosh]

would you be willing to hook me up if I send cash thru paypal for tamiya motors? Email me at joshua.thompson@mildenhall.af.mil or give me your address.

[minijosh]

I found a place that sells the motors but the store is selling them in British Pounds and that is alot more expensive than I would like to spend. For instance, Super Stock Motor Type S is 36 pounds. If you do the conversion rate, the cost in dollars will be 61 dollars. The sport tuned black can is 19 pounds which is 32 dollars. And those are stock motor. TAMIYA Dyna-Run Super Touring and the Super Modified 11T are 72 pounds. Math says 122 dollars. Now you tell me, would you pay these prices???

[hanafuda]

Do you live in the US Minijosh? If so, have you checked out Tamiya's prices locally? They should be pretty competitive. The reason I ask is that you may get stung for import duty when bringing goods in from abroad, and that could make the total more than if you just bought locally.

As for the UK, it is a joke. I am from the UK, and glad I don't have to pay their prices! They charge more than double the Japanese prices. A black Super Stock here costs 1500 Yen which is 1575 Yen after tax. That works out at around 8 Pounds 50 Pence, yet to buy the same thing in the UK they want 19 Pounds!

[minijosh]

I live in both places. I am a US military person so I get the best of both worlds. Live in the UK and still have a US address. I have looked on tower but they don't have the good stock motors from tamiya. Please hook me up. I get everything vat free and I don't have to worry about import taxes, lucky me.

[hanafuda]

Have you tried Tamiya Europe - http://www.tamiyaeurocup.co.uk/

What with postage / payment fee in Japan plus international shipping it probably wouln't work out much cheaper.

Can you get Novak kit by the way? If we did set something up I would be more interested in a kind of trade as I can't get Novak in Japan...

[minijosh]

That is funny that you cannot buy Novak. What would you like?

[hanafuda]

I am half after a Novak Super Rooster for the Dagger - it is stilll with the stock mechanical speed controller at the moment. The Super Rooster seems to be the one to go with for the Dagger.

Incidentally, I will be upgrading the Dagger with two Tamiya Sport Tuned motors next week and plan to take it for a spin the following weekend. I will let you know how it goes.

[minijosh]

no worries mate. the super roosters at tower hobbies are only $119.99 and I am a member of their club so free shipping and whatnot. Just send the money to my paypal. I transfer it to my bank account. Get the item sent to where now??? Do you have family here in the UK? Tell me how much faster those motors make the truck will ya plz?

[dave56bug]

Just a heads up, Us over at **** have been working with Bill at RCAlloys, on getting some bulletproof dogbones made up, he's got the tooling, and is waiting one some drivepins, so the prototypes will be done soon. Then i will get to testing them, and seeing as i'll be running an EVX with two Trinity Maxx motors.

Email him for prices. www.rcalloys.com

Dave.

[hanafuda]

I am planning on putting a Futaba ESC in my Dagger to replace the stock mechanical speed control. I have decided on a Futaba as they have a good reputation and I can get them easily and at a good price where I am.

I have two questions initially.

1. Is this going to be possible using a Futaba ESC? If so, please give me some directions!

2. Which of the following should I go for - MC330CR or MC230CR?

I am currently running a stock Dagger apart from:

Full bearing set
Low friction aluminium oil dampers all round
2 x Tamiya Sport Tuned motors + 20T pinions

[dave56bug]

The mc330cr is rated to a 13t motor, so it'll run two stock motors but not much more than that. it should run two tamiya sport tuned motors, but allow it to get plenty of airflow, or put a fan on it.

Dave.

[hanafuda]

Thanks Dave.

If that is the case, would you recommend the MC400CR instead?

[dave56bug]

I own a MC400, but use it in a touring car. Its rated to 10turn....

The only ESC's i'd really suggest are Novak Super Rooster, LRP F1 Super Reverse, or Mtroniks truck esc's.

But those are big money.

I'm sure you could get away with the mc400 on two tamiya stock motors no problem, it comes with an optional heat sink, so use that.

Dave.

[carwasher]

I have a intellispeed 8 r in my txt and have been happy with it. it goes for under $80 and can handle 2 16 turn motors in parallel.I'm only running 2 mag mayhems on 6 or 7 cells and it doesn't even get warm.

[Janders]

I haved burned out 3 in the last year. Two were the 8t reversing and I was running 2 17T's on both. My Superrooster has outlasted all my Duratraxx ESC's combined.

[creep]

Originally posted by dave56bug
Just a heads up, Us over at **** have been working with Bill at RCAlloys, on getting some bulletproof dogbones made up, he's got the tooling, and is waiting one some drivepins, so the prototypes will be done soon. Then i will get to testing them, and seeing as i'll be running an EVX with two Trinity Maxx motors.

Email him for prices. www.rcalloys.com

Dave.

That is what the WD has been missing. The stock "Sissy" dogbones don't last long at all.

[Janders]

I've had no problems with breaking the stock(thundershot) dogbones. I've really put my WD through a beating with as low as dual 15T motors and clod tires....I *should* be breaking a lot of drivetrain parts, but ever since I zip-tied my dogbones to the upper arms I haven't even lost a dogbone(well over 50 packs).
FWIW I have broken the chassis, the transmission mounts and blew up my trans with a 14T pinion, and snapped my steering where they connect to the steering hubs. Of course my lower arms are filled with expoxy-maybe that's saving my dogbones..come to think of it most of my dagger is now epoxy :)

[creep]

I use a 17t speedgem in the rear and no motor or gears up front for some monster wheelies.( Batteries die too quick running 2 motors:D )

[Janders]

1.pull out your Right Front and Left Rear dogbone. 2.Flip the motor leads on your front motor
3.turn the truck all the way to the right
4. Squeeze the throttle and watch the craziest donuts you've ever seen!
5. Expect some damage, injuries, and scared animals

**BTW-only do this if you have both diffs fully locked**

[hanafuda]

Racing Green.

[hanafuda]

I hooked it up with the 2 Tamiya Sport Tuned motors and 20T pinion gears and it runs nicely. Quite a bit faster than before. All I need now to complete it is an ESC, but that is going to have to wait until next year.

[Clodzilla Crazy]

Here's my wild dagger with clodbuster wheels

[Clodzilla Crazy]

Here's my wild dagger with clodbuster wheels

[dave56bug]

Cool, great lookin Dagger!

I'm running Maxx wheels on mine, not quite as big, hehe.

Dave