HB Lightning RR Forum v1.0

[bubbastump]

Mugen Wing Stay w/Body Mount MBX-4 In stock, shipping 1 $16.59

yep thats it hahahahaha i got the bump i think i hope

[tallcracker]

i took my car out and ran it today, i had a quick question about engine temps. is it true that if the engine runs cooler then 210 degrees that you can actually be causing it damage? some 1 told me that it does the exact same damage to the engine weather u run it too hot or too cold. i normally run in about 220-240 range, but tonight it was very cool out side and i wasnt driving it very hard tonight, that with the fact the body was off made for temps somtimes as low as 190. what is every1's view on this?

[Anthen27]

I am looking to buy a HB lightning RTR. Any idea where I can get one cheap? I have read in this forum some of you guys have purchased it for $300.00 with free shipping? I need to know the cheapest best place to buy one. Also, what about replacement parts?..............Anthony

[tallcracker]

anthony
the cheapest place i can think of is nitrohouse. com
i think it runs like 320 there. the parts can easily be purchased from ricks hobby shop. just go to the hotbodies web page, click on tjhe lightining then go to the bottom for "replacment parts" then you will see a full listing of parts

[soslo]

Hey tallcracker..
The temp thing is more for reference and not near as important as how the motor runs.
Considering you weren't running it hard with the the body off, and as cool as it has been outside, 190 sounds ok. Under normal, hard running conditions, the temp would have gone up more.
The main drawback to running an engine too cold (rich) would be the possibility of fowling the glow plug. I can't see where too much lubrication would cause engine damage, uness it hydrolocked the motor, and you could bend or break a rod. But that seems to the extreme, and your motor probably wouldn't have been running right anyway.
If I am wrong, someone please correct me.
I haven't ever thought much about running the motors too cold, because that usually is not an issue around here. It is more about keeping the motor from running too hot. The Hyper .21 and the v01b both run best around 250 to 270, after a hard run, on 80 - 90+ degree days. They kinda start lean bogging, and the temp really goes up, if we push them much further than that! LOL!! :) My driver just gripes a lot about engine performance, so I kinda push things to the limit.
If you want your motor to last a while, keep doing what you are doing.

[gkcontra]

Hey Tall, you do need to watch running too cold, but 190 should be ok, 180 and below is the general danger zone. The reason is that if the engine is cold and doesn't expand as much as normal, then the piston will prematurely wear out the pinch at the top of the stroke, then you go back to running normally at about 240 or so, when the sleeve expands like it should the fit is loose so you loose compression. That's why people need to be careful with all the aftermarket heads out there, you hear people saying they drop temps 30-40 deg, I've even heard of someone being happy about thier engine running at 160, at least until the sleeve was too worn down to run normally!

[soslo]

That would make sense gk.
Smiley went through one picco, and 2 cv-r's with a big head, in his NT, while we went through 4 1/2 gallons in the GT with one cv-r with the stock head.
He would, and still does, lean the h--- out of them to keep the temp up. You can hear it just-a-rappin out big time, going down the straights. It hauls, but they don't last long like that.
We may run a "little" lean, but the big heads give you the illusion you can run leaner. That translates to less lubrication.
Just not sold on aftermarket heads. I like things to last a little while, anyway.
If the engine manufactures thought they needed a bigger head, they would put them on at the factory.

[tallcracker]

thanks guys for the help, and thats exactly what i was worried about gk. today i took her out and with the body on i leaner her out 1/4 turn on the high and about 1/16th on the low. i was running around 250 now and never over 265. the acceleration was increased just enough to tell a difference but nothing mind blowing. it def cleared out alot faster then it had on the previous settings.

[soslo]

hehe!! Tall's just-a-playin now!!
The main thing is to have a good trail of smoke all through acceleration, and especially at the top end. The further you lean it, the less life you will have from the engine.
Just be careful not to go too far with it, and get it to where it is comfortable for you to drive also. Some people don't like a lot of power. On loose tracks, like M&M when it is dry and dusty, you may want to de-tune it, for better control.
Ofna told me the normal temp for the Hyper .21 should be around 250. Don't know what the v01b is supossed to be. Chk.with HB on yours.
If it didn't make much difference when you leaned it 1/4 turn (that is quite a bit), you may want to leave it where it was, or find a compromise around 220 to 240. Your motor and wallet will thank you for it, in the long run.
If you turn the bottom screw back out, and leave the top screw alone, that may drop the temp. also. Performance should be about the same it is now.
We have backup motors, so we can play a little. Just don't want to see your's go out prematurely on ya. You work hard enough for the things you get. :)

[tallcracker]

thanks soslo

i was out at M & M and saw dan, i think he was driving the crono, i didnt stay for the whole race but i saw him running pretty well. i also got a chance to watch smiley, he is really good but i wish he would have tried the triple more. he def has some major horespower on that lil xxx-nt.

yeah i can def see a nice white trail of smoke coming from right on idle and up to the full end. right now when i am coming off a fullspeed run, and i completely let off the gas it is sounding like a 2 cycle motorcycle when you let off the gas but still have the clutch out. (duuuunnnnngggggg dunnnngggggg dunnggggg) ok thats my best impression :D it does this once or twice and i think that the clutch shoes are not retracting and are dragging the engine at a higher rpm. i am thinking about going to the 3 shoe clutch with the aluminum shoes. i am gonna call tomorrow and see how much they run. how do the alum shoes bite up against an aluminum clutch bell? is it considerably more bite then the standard clutch? are these types known for wearing much faster then noramal shoes?

[geo8498]

After going through 2 wings, I decided to see what I could do by making a home-made one.

[soslo]

Dang geo! That thing looks awsome!

tallcracker... Go for the standard 3 shoe setup with the stiffest springs you can find. Thought I still had the label for the ones we got, but it got lost somewhere.
They are the Ofna gold springs anyway. Fastrak Hobbies should have them. 713-330-9500
This is what Nick, Thomas, and others run also. They woke the Hyper 7 up, compared to the stock springs.
Smeley just runs lean. That is why he is so fast. Not because of h.p. He runs the cv-r, just like we do. He will be crying to Dan that his motor won't run before much longer. It is a never ending circle with him. LOL!! He was trying not to break on the triple, probably. Those Losi's are kinda' fragile, if you hit em just right. Plus the track does need a little maintanence done on it. The triple isn't what it used to be!
Randy Porter (mini B.K.) tried the aluminum shoes on his 7.5. His dad (Dave) said they worked fantastic at first, but when they went out, they went out, and they had to buy another clutch bell also.

[anothermbdusted]

how good are the shocks on your guys buggies.do you like them and if not why not...

[tallcracker]

the shocks are not bad, they are pretty smooth and have good dust boots. mine havent leaked any oil yet. i have noticed that the adonizing color has been taken off part of one of my rear shocks. it is a cosmetic thing and doesnt really effect the performance. i think the upper turnbuckle is pushing the spring against the shock body and that is wearing it off.

i think i am gonna strip off all the coloring with over cleaner, then they will just look like a silver color and you wont notice the adonixing coming off certian parts.

[gkcontra]

The anno will come off from the spring compressing because it will lean in to the shock body and rub, it happens to all shocks. This car straight from the box has a very good setup and is easy easy to drive. I have had other cars that take a whole lot of work and testing to get to that point.

[tallcracker]

i agree it does have a very good base set up from the box. if the track has large jumps though i do reccomend a thicker chock oil.

gk
i have ran associated electric trucks for years and i have never had the adonizing come off them. that is the only reason why i mentioned it. i think associated used the aircraft alum for thier shocks and i dont think the same material is used on the lightnings shocks. that or the adonizing isnt of the same quality ?
you got me, i just know i am gonna strip mine soon and get that nice polished look
:D

[gkcontra]

Tall - there are 2 types, Hard/teflon annodizing and then just annodizing. On ass. team trucks and the ones you buy seperate they have the hard anno'd ones, on the regular 10 st and sport level trucks they have regular anno that will wear off. They have a 'racing' set of shocks for the lightning that are probably hard anno'd

[tallcracker]

thanks for clearing that up Gk, i guess you learn something new everyday. i think i am gonna get the "pro" shock caps, the plastic ones that come factory look kinda cheezy, and when i rolled my car in the street i tore up the plastic caps pretty good.

has any1 seen the new double front disk brakes? i wish they would have gone with a quad brake setup. i know the front does most of the braking, but i am gonna stick with a standard servo and i prefer my rear wheels to lock so i can slide the rear end around on tight tracks. i am afraid that the front will tend to lock before the rear now seeing as how the front has twice the friction as the rear does. just a thought, guess only time on the track will tell.

[geo8498]

Someone mentioned that the Lightning is a copy of the Kyosho 7.5

I've been looking at some pictures of the 7.5, and it does look like they are very similar. With the exception of some details like shocks and radio box etc

The A-arms look the same.

Does anyone here have any input?

[gkcontra]

The car is actually a very close copy of the mp 6. The 7.5 lowered the CG a bit and they redesigned the diff cases and arm mounts a bit so parts are not interchangable. They are really close though.

[tallcracker]

well i just placed my order for about $75 in parts from hotbodies. i got some new shock boots, new rims, tires, foams, and the front and rear chasis stiffners from the pro version. they said my parts will be here in 5-7 days unless they are out of stock, then my card will only be charged for what is sent, and they will charge my card when the other pieces are instock and i will get free shipping. i hope everything comes in 1 week, but i will live if it doesnt. i am really looking forward to those chasis stiffners, i think they will really give it a finished look and reduce chasis flex.
i will post pics as soon as they are installed so u girls can drool!! lol jk:D

[tallcracker]

today i went to M & M and ran my car after school. i probably got about 6 tanks run and i finally broke something!! the front suspension holder on the back of the A- arm. it cracked right in the middle after i cased the tripple and landed on my left wheel. it wasnt a big deal seeing as how they give u a free 1 degree block when u buy this car anyways, so i just put that part on and kept driving. in the cars defense it was nearing about 40 degrees when i broke this part and it was a pretty horrific crash. another casing of the triple ended my day when i completely shattered my rim. the track is very very rutted and just trying to get speed for the triple my car would bounce a few inches off the ground trying to gain speed and it often made me fall a little short. on a better note the engine ran really really well and it had plent of power. im glad i ordered new tires and rims :D

[atm92484_3]

Great to hear tallcracker. I know what you mean about that front brace; I'm waiting for one also. Are you still running the stock engine/pipe?

[geo8498]

Speaking of pipes...Has anyone tried a different pipe on their Lightning? I want to get one, but can't figure out what to get. Recommendations anyone?

Thinking of a new engine eventually too, but it's hard to judge, since there are no specs on his engine to reference. I don't know where it stands in relation to a $170 engine or a $320 engine. I don't want to get, say, an Ofna p6 or p8 and find out that it's not a better engine than the one I already have.

[HBLigHtnIngRR]

Hey guys, about that chassis brace, is it the kind that come from the front and rear to the center diff brace? I saw one of those on a monster truck, and I'm thinking about getting one. Also, on the engine issue: If you buy a $200 engine, it's got to be better than the stock engine in some way- either reliability or power.
Thanks yall,
Steve

[tallcracker]

as soon as i get the front brace i will take some pics of it on and off my car for every1 to see. yes atm i am still running the stock pipe and engine. i actually think the pipe and engine are pretty decent. i will be replacing the engine early summer most likely. i am considering the O.S. .21 RG. i still think my stock engine has at the least another gallon before it needs to be replaced. even after it looses compression i will get a new piston and sleeve and keep it for a backup.

i forget the specs on our engine exactly but it is somewhere around 1.9 or 2.0 horespower at 30k rpms.

the specs on the O.S. are very similar

RG specs

rpm range 3,000-35,000
1.9 hp at 30,000 rpm

the O.S. isnt more powerful but it does spin a higher rpms. so you can either regear and get more power and the same top speed, or use the same gearing, have the same acceleration and have a better top end.

and the O.S. w/o the pull start can be picked up for around $140 bucks. not too bad if u ask me.

[tallcracker]

hey hblightningrr
the braces we are talking about are very similar ,in terms of mounting, to the factory one on the back of the car. rather then having a turnbuckle and a ballcup they are one piece of aluminum and just screw directly to the frame. in the front they will go from the top mounting hole on the upper steering assemble (with the hole in the center) to about halfway between the front steering brace and the center diff holder. you already have a predrilled hole in ur chasis and it mounts there.
the rear one mounts in the exact same holes the factory one is mouted in.

[atm92484_3]

Ya the stock pipe and engine actually seem to work pretty well together. Geo, its a bit pricey (but what isn't for 1/8 scales? :p), but I really like the THS pipe/header.

Also, for you guys like me who have broken the front lower pin mount (the one behind the diff case), I found it can be replaced with kyoif124. All you need to do is grind the little nub off of the case and it will bolt right on. Not sure if anyone else is in this situation, but this was the only part I needed and its on a back order from Hot Bodies right now.

[bubbastump]

my sample arrived so to the lab i go gonna idle a tank with 20% and idle a tank with same gal of gas but with a new thing added.
then on the low speed runs same way
then all out high speed except for turning around
gonne monitor temp and log it down and post it so yall can see if it works.
im expecting more power cooler temps and a more time to a tank of gas

[tallcracker]

bubbastump
what are u adding to ur gas? and whatever it is let us know how it goes

[bubbastump]

believe u me i will
and this stuff comes in a quart and it treats 320 gallons of gas so i figure 25 cc to a gal if my math is right im not sure

[tallcracker]

i dont know about every1 else but i am having problems keeping my engine hot enough. when it is in perfect tune it is only running 200-230 and i have to lean it out too much to get her up around 250-270. i am gonna wait till the weather gets a little hotter and see what happens. if she is still cold i am going to cut off the top 3 fins from the head and see of thats helps bring the temp up a lil.

[soslo]

tallcracker..
Don't cut the fins!! You WILL need them soon. 200 to 230 is plenty hot enough in this weather.
I always like this time of year because it is so easy on the engines. The cool, dense air makes them ballistic!
hmmm?? How about a dry ice air intake system for the hot days?
What temp does HB recommend for your engine?
Try a hotter plug for cold weather also.
see ya'soon! :)

[bubbastump]

ugh stupid question ????
how many cc to a gallon ?
how mony cc to a oz?
im all fu$%$d up on math today kant think straight
lol
e how much to add 2 a 75cc tank if 1 oz is for 10 gallons
any help would be apperaiced
so i kant spell either
i wanna try this out but i gotta figure it out first

[soslo]

bubbastump..
try here
http://www.onlineconversion.com/
or do a a search for "liquid conversions".

Have you ever used "hogshead" measurements before? hehe! Wonder what in the world that is?? :confused: Never mind .. I don't even want to know. Probably something left over from the midevil days. :cool:

What in the world are you concocting anytwhathoweverways??
What engine are you trying it on with the GT?
There is an old boy around here, who can make any percentage fuel you want. Let me know if you need his addy, if this one blows up on ya. Hopefully whatever you are doing will work.

[tallcracker]

hey solso
thats a good idea about the hotter plug.... dont know why i didnt think if it:confused: what shock oil are u running by the way? i went to a 35 and i think it is too thick. it feels a little thick on the bench and my car is getting tossed around like a skinny boy in prison. literally is is "jumping" into the air on the rough sections of the straight away. i went a little thicker thinking it would help me from bottoming out so badly on the larger jumps, but then i talked to a guy yesterday and he said the chasis are thick for a reason, let the car bottom out and set up the suspension soft so it keeps its composure on the rougher sections of the track better.

[bubbastump]

just a lil old cv 12 no big loss if it goes BOOM:D

[bubbastump]

k hears the problem by the way thanks for that site it helped alot
ok 10 gal uses 29.5 cc that makes 2.95 for 1 gal
hell thats just a drop per tank of gas
duhhhhh

[johnybravo129]

OK I want an off road 1/8th buggy. Tell me the pros of the HB lightning and where I can get one fer the cheapest.

[soslo]

tallcracker.. It sounds like it is too stiff.
Since all these shocks seem to be about the same, and the Lightning sounds a lot like the 7.5 and Hyper 7, use the 7.5 setup like we do on the Hyper. Drill the front pistons to 55 (w/35wt.) and the rears to 54 (w/40wt.) Dan's Crono was done the same way too. Set your arms slightly (not much even) above level. All these things bottom out. Just the nature of the beast. They are just heavy. The bouncing around is a definite no-no.
The blue (medium) kyosho springs are the hot ticket too. Don't know what the springs are like on the Lightning, but the springs that came with the Hyper were way too soft. Didn't have any choice but to upgrade on them. The dang Kyosho springs are $15.00 a pair though. If the Lightning springs seem ok.. stick with them.

A drop per tank bubbastump? We will watch for you on the news, when your block goes BOOM!! LOL!! :)
Bush would think it is another terrorist attack! Just be careful with that stuff.

Sorry johnybravo. I tinker with the Hyper 7.

[bubbastump]

ahhhhh its not that bad of stuff ive used it b4 in my work truck and pov works good . they claim its gor all fuels. but realy designed for diesel but they found it works everywhere even 2 stroke

[tallcracker]

johny
i went back a few pages and found this information for ya, hopefully it will help.

here is what i had to say in an earlier post kinda summarizing my lightning exoerience and what i thought of it...

i would assume the top speed is about 40mph. durability is great, havent broken a part yet(other then a wing and 1 rim).
considering it has a "sport" engine it gets along pretty quickly. it accelerates very well and i can easily accelerate with the best of the racing buggies. i really have no complaints about the engine, it has a 3 needle carb, hardly found on a sport engine. it produces about 2hp, and runs very reliabily. i can normally keep the temp in the low 200's and get plenty of power for all the large jumps at my track. the servo sucks, but its a standard servo and it easily replaced. just about all RTR buggies use a standard servo and have this problem. this car has great handling, i am able to toss it around anddrive it hard without it coming back and biting me. jumping is very good. i can easily control the nose with a simple stab of the brakes or the gas. alot of times i have to stab the brakes before the first jump so i dont overshoot the following ones. it lands very very well. alot of this is shock tuning and spring rates, but the lightning comes with a good shock settings from the factory. the radio sucks, but what RTR system doesnt? it has front and rear disk brakes, i can easilt lock all 4 tires on concrete, and can easily slide the rear end around the corners on tight tracks. maintnence is the same as all other buggies, very easy to clean it all off.

here is what a ofna owner had to say about the LX pro. in ofnas defense tho this guy (soslo) has a hyper 7 and has had very good luck with it.

I can tell you one thing. If you go to the Ofna site, and look at the notice section..Never mind.. The section is under construction now. Anyway... the LX's have been having diff. problems (there is a recall), and there is an upgrade ($60.00) from 6mm to 8mm axles you would need to get also. The 6mm axles bend very easily, from what is said on the Ofna website forum.
I HATE having to say this,... BUT....It is the truth!!
From what the guys say in here about the HB buggy, and from what I saw on the track, you would be better off with the HB. It seems to be a pretty dependable buggy. It runs good, and jumps well also.


i think that can kinda get a list for you of the pros and cons of these buggies. of course i want you to get the lightning because i belive it is a better car, but if you hop to the LX Pro forum (if thier is one) maybe they can give you some insight as to weathetr these problems have been resolved.

[bubbastump]

man if its not the glow plug ignitor its the barrery im chargin now.
hopefuly i can do the test today im bust for next 2 weeks i want to get it done and the info to yall before it starts warmin up roe race season kicks in full bloom

[soslo]

They have resolved the diff. problems now tallcracker. Someone forgot to put the shims in, on the assembly line, in about 500 of Ultra, LX, and MBX models.
The upgrade kit for the axles also changes it to the pivot ball suspension. But that is still another $60.00 to consider. Otherwise.. they b cruisn' now.

Just be patient with it bubbastump. You will get it together.

[Nitroooo]

Does everyone still run the stock shocks and springs???If so, what weight oil would be a good starting point for the average track? Also, how many of you guys have added the front chassis stiffner?

Thanks Nitroooo

[tallcracker]

i have bought the front chasis stiffner yet, but it hasnt come in yet and so i havent actually "added" the front brace. i should have it tuesday and i will install it that night

[atm92484_3]

Do you remember by any chance what the price was on the chassis brace? I'm still amazed at how cheap Hot Bodies hop-ups are; 3mm 7075 shock towers are less than $10 a piece.

[bubbastump]

well first phaze of test is done.ir temp glowplug=214,exhaust temp=201
thats with blue thunder 20% race
and with same fuel 205 glowplug and 197 temp on exhaust with a specail sause added i had to turn down idle it picked up rpms
naet phaze is tuesday evening i hope (low speed runs)
so i belive the results will be even better

1st stage(idle) pass
2nd stage (low speed) tbd
3rd stage (high speed) tbd

[tallcracker]

yeah they were like 16.98 each or something along those lines. i thought it was pretty reasonable and i will post pics when i get them bolted up.

[cbr74]

Who's gonna be the first to get the newly available Lightning Pro version?

[ttweedle]

Well I am putting some of Kyosho's shock caps on mine since I sheared off the plastic mount on mine. I also am getting a MP7.5 front lower hinge pin brace. I broke mine and am going to see if the measurements are the same. I hope so. Does anyone know if its bad to run a pull start engine without the pull start attached? mine broke, and now I use a starter box so i just left it off. Still need to fill my diffs with fluid. replaced my steering servo with a Hitec digital with 126oz of torque. Im good for steering now. Also installed a Hitec DCX receiver for use with my Hitec 3D radio. No more AM for my buggy. One hit in a brick wall was all it takes for me...lol

[HBLigHtnIngRR]

Hey ttweedle,
If u run your car without the pull starter on it, you have a risk of getting contaminents into the engine. I suggest you either go ahead and upgrade to a non- pull start backplate, with no shaft protruding out the back, or put the pull starter case on the back plate. When you take off that starter shaft, and get the backplate, you will take off rotating mass, and possibly get a little more power from the engine.
Hey tallcracker... who did you order the chassis brace from?


Thanks,
Steve

[atm92484_3]

You don't have to worry about dirt entering the engine if the pullstarter isn't on but the backplate and starter shaft are still installed. Afterall, the pullstarter isn't exactly much of a seal either. It will only cost around $7 though to upgrade to a non-pullstart back plate. I just installed one designed for the Force .21 on my HB .21 and it was a direct fit.

[tallcracker]

i ordered my chasis brace from ricks hobby shop
1-800-221-6053. i am a little pissed at them though. i ordered my parts on wed of last week, then today i get an invioce in the mail asking for the money, and on the invoice is my credit card reciept from when they charged me! it is clear some 1 made a mistake and i am kinda pissed off because i think my parts have not actually been ordered. not only that but all the things i odered are not even on the invioce. i am going to call tomorrow and see what the deal is. i will tell every1 what the deal is and see if my parts have been shipped.

[tallcracker]

ok i called today and they said that the invoice is already paid, and it has been charged to my card. the reason not everything was on it is because some of the items i purchased were backordered. it sucks because the back ordered items were the ones i really needed. i cant run my car again until i get some new rims, but hey that is just something that happens i guess. i know that companies are going to run out of things from time to time. but she said my chasis braces should be in today or tomorrow so as soon as i get then i will post pics for every. i may break down and next paycheck go buy some kyosho rims so i can atleast run it, there is no telling how long they are backordered.

[gkcontra]

tall - if you want a little cheaper option, the GS rims are only 7.95 a pair at Larry's. I work at 59+Hillcroft so I could pick them up if you needed rather than paying Meir's inflated prices.

[geo8498]

Proline Crowd Pleazer body for 7.5 and Ofna Hyper rims and tires. A splash of yellow and a coat of grape. . . and I wonder why my girlfriend won't let me paint the apartment.:rolleyes:

[atm92484_3]

Woah nice paintjob man. Did you airbrush it or literally splash it on?

[geo8498]

I literally splashed on the yellow and a little white, then can-sprayed the purple.

[tallcracker]

geo!!
that is the coolest paint job man! i love the way that thing looks.

hey Gk
i think i might take ya up on that offer man, are u planning on running at M & M anytime soon? maybe i could meet ya up there, run the cars and p/u the rims.
just let me know what ur schedule looks like and we can see if it will work out.

[Marciano1969]

I AM SORRY,BUT YOUR BODY LOOKS AS IF IT HAD AN SEXUAL INCOUNTER WITH AN ALIEN..........JUST MY THOUGHTS.......................................... .....................

[tallcracker]

do you know what this looks like from first hand experience? haha , sorry couldnt resist

[geo8498]

Originally posted by Marciano1969
I AM SORRY,BUT YOUR BODY LOOKS AS IF IT HAD AN SEXUAL INCOUNTER WITH AN ALIEN..........JUST MY THOUGHTS.......................................... ..................... Actually I kinda thought it has a Ghost Busters' slimed look to it. As though it ran through a wall of flubber. But the alien thing works too. Either way, I'm sure there's no mistaking it for anyone else's.

[soslo]

Hey tallcracker.. To simplify things until you get your order, I will give you a set. They were given to us, and they will never be used. Just say when and where to meet.
We can meet at Reflex if you want. Dan and Smelly are usually there late anyway.
That body really doesn't look too bad. you don't even want to see mine! lol!! :)

P.S. You have mail tallcracker.

[buggyman]

hey guys,

I've been wanting to get into 1/8 scale for a while, and a dude at the local track got one of the hot bodies and he loves it so I did some research. i found it on ultimate for 309.95, called 'em up and it'll be here next week, post pics when i get it.

p.s. hope you guys will help me get into the sport as you did everyone else.THANKS
:D

[gkcontra]

Not a problem, welcome to the hobby. The more of these things we get out there, the more possibility of more parts ;)

[tallcracker]

hey bugyman
congrats on ur recent purchase. you will love the car and that price was a steal man!

i just got my front and rear chasis braces today, i will try to post pics tonight. they are so clean! adonized purple and have a super smooth finish. hotbodies did an excellent job with these, and of course they came with screws and full instructions.

[bubbastump]

well i got my new body today i got the mugen crowd pleazer body after i paint i will show yall pics




i finished testing
overall no big temp change sometimes a few deg high and a few deg lower

but alot more power and a tank lasted about 30 to 60 sec longer depending on driving track

no fuel coming from exhaust only oil

im not sure if it lenghtens engine life or not that will take about 5 gallons to find out

the stuff is about 35bux a bottle 32oz
1 oz will treat 10 gallons
so that makes 2.95cc to a gallon
no more than 3cc
if yall want more info let me know

[soslo]

What's it called, bubbastump?

[k_bojar]

I know this is for the RTR version...But has anyone seen or tried the Pro Version of the Buggy??? I have one waiting for me at my buddy's hobby shop and wanted to know what the thoughts of this was :D:D

If I can, I'll post some pics of the new machine...From what I hear, they changed the paint scheme :D Its now Black & white with a yellow strip :D instead of that hot pink

[tallcracker]

hey k_bojar
i think you will be about the only person with the PRO version on this forum. when are u planning on picking it up?
my thoughts on this buggy.... hmm
i think they took a very good buggy and touched up all the areas that had room for improvement. i wuldnt call them "lacking" before but they could improve and did. i really dont think you have to buy anything, other then an O.S. motor maybe,to be very very competitive with this thing and just about any level.
i just installed the PRO chasis braces last night, if the rest of the car is anything like the quality and fit of those braces you are in for a rear treat man. about what is the PRO version running $?
and after you get it can you see if they have made any improvements to the motor? i am considering getting the PRO rear universal shafts, so let me know what you think of the quality of those.

and i pray to god they changed the paint scheme, the pink never really has grown on me and i am looking to p/u a new body just due to the colors of the old one.

[gkcontra]

tall - don't worry too much about the body thing, when you start racing you will need a new body every so often anyway, the longer races really take their toll on the rear body mount are of the body and cause cracks.

[cbr74]

k_bojar... better hurry and pick it up or I'll beat you to it. I have one coming in Tuesday of next week.

With all the whistles and bells too... MX-3, 358Z's, polished exhaust, etc.

[tallcracker]

looks like this buggy is starting to get popular... :D .. i see lots of hop- ups in our future

[HBLigHtnIngRR]

Hey Tall, if you like the stock body style, just wash the old paint off with water, maybe a lil' soap and a scrub brush. When I washed the dirt off my body with water, I rubbed on the body and the paint came off! I'll have to wait until I get my paint to change the paint scheme of the body. I just got an airbrush, so I hope this works!

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
k_bojar... better hurry and pick it up or I'll beat you to it. I have one coming in Tuesday of next week.

With all the whistles and bells too... MX-3, 358Z's, polished exhaust, etc.

I Doubt you'll beat me to it :D:D I'm getting in about 3 hours :D:D:D

Well, like I said, they supposedly changed the paint scheme to one that dumped the pink but got yellow...I just wished they didnt include (even tho its a nice gesture) one - or at least include an unpainted one :D:D I already have plans on getting a new body - pink and/or yellow isnt my favorite colors either

tall - everything I've read from you all seems to make me think that I am getting one dam good buggy :D Now I just need to get my radio gear in and then in the buggy and I'll be all set :D

[soslo]

tallcracker doesn't need a body.
He needs something more along the line of a basketball cut in half, and put over the buggy, so he can just bounce off of everything he hits. j/k :)

[tallcracker]

i swear you hit a few kids, dogs, cats. elderly people, parked cars, lamp post, mail boxes and homes and all of the sudden people are cracking jokes. ;)

[bubbastump]

its a fuel enhanser made for diesel engines but they found it works with every fuel

i also use in my work truck and pov
and now i use in buggy and gt

if u decide to get it
i would reccomend to idle a tank 1st
u might not have to lean or fatten but u will need to readjust the idle screw down a bit



http://www.fuelsplusinc.com/home.html

worst case u can buy it for your pov

not sure if it lenghtens or shortens engine life i feel like it will lenghten but not positive

i will tell u after 5 more gallons
whenever that is

[gkcontra]

tall- just wait til you hit the fence along the triple, I hit the triple just a bit out of shape and somehow caught the rear tire of my storm on it, can you say 720?

[tallcracker]

i stay away from the fence at all cost! lol
i have nightmares of an a- arm ripping off and the tires still dangling from the fence while my car crashes to the ground.

[soslo]

That dang fence can get some awsome multiple endoes started too. There was one guy that went over the fence a while back.. It'll get ya!

bubbastump..
That stuff doesn't sound bad. I can't see how it would hurt the engine. It does have lubrication chemicals in it also. That is a plus! If it makes the fuel burn better (as you proved by having to lower the idle).. why not go for it?
Fuel stabiizers/enhancers have been around for years for diesels and gas engines. They always seem to help.
Sounds like these people may have hit on something. Or else they have a dang good sales pitch! LOL!! :)

[k_bojar]

Man...this buggy is sweet :)

If you thought the RTR was a machine, then the PRO is awesome :D

Thicker front and rear shock towers
Front & Rear Chassis braces (or, anti-bending rods ;))
Aluminum front-rear pivot points :)
Aluminum Rear-front pivot points
Machine aluminum steering knuckles
"racing" tires - different thread pattern - little arrow like pattern

:) Now all I need is my electronics and I'll be all set to break her in :D:D

[gkcontra]

How much is the Pro?

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by gkcontra
How much is the Pro?

As far as I know...It should probably cost your LHS about the same as the RTR...At least that's what I paid for mine :D

So as long as you dont have a price gouging Hobby Shop owner, you'll hopefully be able to pay around the same for either :D

[cbr74]

Where's da pics?

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
Where's da pics?

Forgot I gave the camera back to my Pop...I'll try to get some over the weekend :)

THe Pro even comes with fluid in the diffs - no idea what # but there is definitely fluid in the diffs - all 3 :D

[tallcracker]

k_bojar
my manual isnt very clear as to what shock towers are the PRO versions and what ones are the standard versions. can you give me the part number from your manual for the front and rear PRO shock towers. and do you feel they are pretty sturdy? looks like they can handle a crash of two? i had a kyosho land directly ontop of me after the big triple and he treaked my rear tower, a rollover treaked my front one, so i just wanna upgrade to towers that can handle substancially more abuse then the stock ones.

[bubbastump]

WOW i just ran my buggie with d2= and can u say fast FAST FAST FAST maybe i shouldnt tellevery one bout this stuff

instead of 150 feet of 160 mow its 140ish off full throttle
i defenitaly need to upgrade servos fer a quick response
and adjust shock positions and learn to drive better with all this speed

[tallcracker]

ttt:D

[JIMMYBANGBANG]

i have been trying to start my new engine and for some reason fuel keeps on coming out of the intake, well the air filter, could that be the glow plug is gone or could it be that i am just not getting any compression? if any body knows it will be a great help. thanks:D

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by tallcracker
k_bojar
my manual isnt very clear as to what shock towers are the PRO versions and what ones are the standard versions. can you give me the part number from your manual for the front and rear PRO shock towers. and do you feel they are pretty sturdy? looks like they can handle a crash of two? i had a kyosho land directly ontop of me after the big triple and he treaked my rear tower, a rollover treaked my front one, so i just wanna upgrade to towers that can handle substancially more abuse then the stock ones.

Tall - I'll give you sond good news and some bad news....First the good news :D

The pro comes with front and rear shock towers that are like 1mm thicker and supposedly a heavier grade aluminum...Yea they look like they will survive a crash or 2 or 3 or 4 :)

Now the bad news....I have the same manual as the RTR so I dont know exactly which part is on mine...but I'd assume its the shock tower with the "-1" after the part numbers...Looks like the Pro got all the "-1" parts :)

[gkcontra]

Tall-I asked Lance about this, the -1is 7075 3mm and the -2 is 7075 4mm, they are machined instead of cast/stamped like the ones on the rtr. not sure what the Pro has, but if they are 4mm then they are the -2 ones.

[tallcracker]

Originally posted by JIMMYBANGBANG
i have been trying to start my new engine and for some reason fuel keeps on coming out of the intake, well the air filter, could that be the glow plug is gone or could it be that i am just not getting any compression? if any body knows it will be a great help. thanks:D

hey jimmy it sounds to me like you are way too rich. go to the hotbodies web site and go check on the engine tuning section. it tells you how many turns all the needles should be set at for breakin. re set all your needles. pull your glow plug, turn the car upside down and pull the starter rope 5 or 6 times to clear out all the fuel. then check ur glow plug by hitting it with the igniter to make sure all the coils light up. if that checks out put it back in, make sure to add the gasket, then fire her up. if you have any problems still i think they might have installed your sleeve wrong, maybe the ports arent facing the right direction, and fuel is bieng forced through the carb. i really doubt this but you never know. keep us posted, we will get it runing soon

[tallcracker]

hey guys thanks for helping me with those shock tower part #'s. i am gonna call monday and see how much the 4mm ones run. if they are reasonable i will pick up a pair.

i have taken pics, but when i try to post them it says i am taking longer then the 200 second time limit. i have tried to make the pics smaller and even only post 1 at a time. nothing seems to work. i may just get a external picture hosting page and load all my pictures to that then give yall the link. but if you have a quick answer about what im going wrong or how to make my pics even smaller LMK so i can do that and post my front and rear chasis stiffners. thanks guys

[gkcontra]

tall - email them to me, I'll put them up for you.

Greg

gregk@hcss.com

[geo8498]

Can anyone tell me why my engine would be burning through plugs all of a sudden? It's actually happening to my RC10GT, not my Lightning. But I posted the question to the RC10 board, and nobody responded.

Every time I run the truck, I'll fry the plug. It'll go through about half a tank and then craps out. I've gone through 4 plugs so far.

[k_bojar]

here's a teaser shot of the Pro :) Its one of the pics of the rear shock tower :D Significantly thicker:)

I really wish the manual would make things clear :(

[k_bojar]

I have more pics...I post them when I get back to my house :D

[cbr74]

that tower looks beeefy.

[atm92484_3]

Mmmm 4mm. :D

[tallcracker]

here are some pics of my chasis braces

lightning (http://www.PictureTrail.com/tallcracker21)

tomorrow after soslo hooks me up i will take some pics of the car and post those.

[bubbastump]

for the guy with the gt

what engine r u running?
what plugs?
what is engine temp?
there could be many things

[geo8498]

My GT has the stock AE15. Plugs, McCoy MC59s or OS A3s. Not sure about the temp, as I don't have a guage. Using 20% nitro.

[soslo]

geo...
Make sure you aren't running too hot Lean), your fuel is good, and there are no air leaks. Are your head bolts tight?
Running rich would knock them out too, but you would know if it too was rich, because it wouldn't run worth a dang.

tallcracker... 2:00 still? We will be there.

[tallcracker]

2pm is good for me, i will be there. i dont think i am going to bring my car and run, but i will stop by and see whats up

[soslo]

yaaaawwnnn..
I'm awake....
Sounds most excellent tall..
Is the coffee ready yet?? :p

[cbr74]

I got coffee. I'm waitin for k_bojar to cough up some more pics of that Pro.

[JIMMYBANGBANG]

Originally posted by tallcracker
hey jimmy it sounds to me like you are way too rich. go to the hotbodies web site and go check on the engine tuning section. it tells you how many turns all the needles should be set at for breakin. re set all your needles. pull your glow plug, turn the car upside down and pull the starter rope 5 or 6 times to clear out all the fuel. then check ur glow plug by hitting it with the igniter to make sure all the coils light up. if that checks out put it back in, make sure to add the gasket, then fire her up. if you have any problems still i think they might have installed your sleeve wrong, maybe the ports arent facing the right direction, and fuel is bieng forced through the carb. i really doubt this but you never know. keep us posted, we will get it runing soon

THANKS TALL GREATLY APPRECIATE IT:D

[cbr74]

A few pages back, someone mentioned using a Mugen wing stay... tallcracker, maybe it was you? Can anyone confirm that the Mugen wing stay fits and is it MUG C0480?

[gkcontra]

Originally posted by cbr74
A few pages back, someone mentioned using a Mugen wing stay... tallcracker, maybe it was you? Can anyone confirm that the Mugen wing stay fits and is it MUG C0480?

cbr - it was bubbastump:

Originally posted by bubbastump
Mugen Wing Stay w/Body Mount MBX-4 In stock, shipping 1 $16.59

yep thats it hahahahaha i got the bump i think i hope

From page 11

[cbr74]

OK, so that's the one... how many of you have broken the stock wing stay? I've heard the wing itself is a weak spot, along with the wheels... but I got some Crono wheels and wing as well as some Ofna wings as spares.
I'm just wondering.. do I really need the Mugen wing stay? Should I go ahead and order it as a "just in case" precaution?

[bubbastump]

yup that was me
i got it it works but u need a wing with no holes it takes a small screw hold on let me find camera
but yes it does work even better than stock
the kyosho wing is good has alot more flex to it

[cbr74]

Yes, a pic. would be great. Speaking of pics.. does anybody have a pic. of the bottom of their Lightning?

[tallcracker]

the rims are a def weak spot, i have cracked 3 now. lukily soslow hooked me up with some spares until my replacements come in. the wing stay has been good for me, it has seen some pretty hard knocks and i havent had any problems. the wing is crap, when mine broke it literally shattered into about 6 pieces.

[gkcontra]

Here is one of the bootm, for a fullsize shot, click the link.

http://pages.sbcglobal.net/greg-n-jill/_images/Lightning/litBottom.JPG

CLICK HERE FOR FULLSIZE (http://pages.sbcglobal.net/greg-n-jill/_images/Lightning/BigBottom.JPG)

[atm92484_3]

I've seen a couple wings where the only part still attached to the car was the plastic around the two mounts. Probably one reason I've switched to Inferno wings :D (hey its been 5 months and I still haven't been able to break my stock 7.5's wing).

[tallcracker]

hey gk do you ever run that thing? i had more adonizing then that missing after breakin! lol

[gkcontra]

Not in about a month, work has been busy and then I bought a project VW Bug so that is eating up time.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
I got coffee. I'm waitin for k_bojar to cough up some more pics of that Pro.

I'm working on it...I'm having a few "issues" with the CDRW in my PC (basically cuz mine sucks)...I'm gonna try again tomorrow at work...if that dont work, guess I'm headed back to philly to try again

For those of you that dont want the "stock" kit paint job....Get some warm water and a green scribbing pad...Let the body get nice and wet (let soak for a bit) and the pad will wash all the paint away - with very little rubbing :) Gotta love that Parma Fascolor paint ;):)

[gkcontra]

good 2 know, maybe I'll scrub mine down, I did another body like that, except it was done with Pactra cans, had to use brake fluid on the one ;)

[cbr74]

gkcontra... thanks for the pic.

Does anyone happen to know if MP7.5 side guards fit the Lightning?

[k_bojar]

Here's one shot of the front of my Pro :) (I got my CD issues straightened out :D)

[k_bojar]

And another:

[k_bojar]

Here's the triple breaking :) 2 in the front and 1 in the rear (kinda sounds dirty huh??)

[k_bojar]

Here's all the high-grade aluminum in the front...Notice the Front Center Universal (that looks rebuildable - CVD-like) right below the chassis stiffener :) What you cant really see is the aluminum hinge pin parts behind all that :)

[k_bojar]

Here's the last shot I'll post - for now ;)

Its the rear...Showing the chassis brace, rear Center Universal, and the aluminum hinge pin part (cant think of what its actually called)

[k_bojar]

ok...I lied :D here's another shot of the rear...showing all the new components

[cbr74]

Put some radio gear in that thing and go get it dirty.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
Put some radio gear in that thing and go get it dirty.

I know already...I need to wait for the servos to come in :D My throttle servos had to go in for service and the steering hasnt come in yet (high powered digital)...I've actually done a couple of things to it already...Shoe-goo'ed in the receiver pack and personal transponder...and attached the switch

its getting there :D:D

[cbr74]

Everything I need for mine is coming with it. All I'll have to do is install and go.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
Everything I need for mine is coming with it. All I'll have to do is install and go.

I ordered mine at the same time...Unfortunately they are coming from 2 different distributors :(

My throttle servos and receiver I already have - just need to get repaired :)

Once these are in, all I need is my fuel (30% Trinity Platinum, baby:D) and I'm ready to rock-n-roll :D:D:D

[atm92484_3]

Very nice looking car. Any body pics?

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by atm92484_3
Very nice looking car. Any body pics?

Not yet...Its now a clear vesion - no more white and black with the yellow trim :D

Havent decided how I wanna do it yet...but I'll post some pics when I'm done

[Ron74]

The paint really comes off that easy?

My Pro will be here tomorrow. :D

Wonder what I did to get banned as cbr74?

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by Ron74
The paint really comes off that easy?

My Pro will be here tomorrow. :D

Wonder what I did to get banned as cbr74?

Yes!! The paint comes of really easy...It took me about 20-25 mins to strip the entire body of its paint...I now have a clear shell

It looks like Hot Bodies used Parma's Falscolor paint - which it very weak in and around water...I had another body for my tourer, that I painted in Fascolor and striped it and then repainted it - and that paint sat for about 1.5 years...Lovely quality :D

[ezequiel]

Originally posted by soslo
Here ya' go tailcracker..
Thought you would like to get the scoop on what is going on around here. This is the THRC newsletter that got sent out tonight.
My driver (son) won't be back in town for racing this weekend, but I need to run up there and round up some things. Things are good to have around! You ever needed one of those "things", and didn't have it? LOL!! Need to harass Alberto anyway, just because. :-)
.....

soslo what ever happened to Alberto? I have not seen him there
for a while now. Do you happen to have his email? Thanks!

[soslo]

Alberto quit, and went back home. (whatever island he was from.. I forget)
I think he will probably get married, from what Ms. Meir said. So his play days are pretty well over with. :mad: LOL!!
He has a biology degree he needs to do something with anyway.
Hated to see him go. He really loves r/c.

Nang, at Reflex, may have his email.
713-464-4458

Do you race??

[ezequiel]

soslo, thanks! Alberto's also from the Phils.
the same island I came from, he helped
me alot on my hyper7. I do not race, though
I got my buggy, I definitely need more track time
before I even think of racing, to think when I practice, Scot will be there and destroys my concentration since he just flies around the track, you know this guy with a kanai? I like running onroad more, even if the M&M onroad track is so slippery and dusty, coz it's the only one near here. actually i just came from M&M, with my workmate, we ran his new ntc3, and last friday, when the offroad was being maintained, there was like a derby in the onroad track, buggies,MT's and sedan cars were running at the same time..it was a blast! I do not know what
race was that last saturday, some guy told me
it was a bigger than usual saturday races..
sorry guys for disturbing your forum here, but i found out that
there are many houston guys here...

[cbr74]

Can the front CV's be used in the rear? For some reason I thought the Pro came with rear CV's, but it doesn't.

I got the servos in and the new exhaust installed:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003243599426352647410.jpg

Here's the body shot, as requested:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003253577136891246132.jpg


I also put in some steering bearings. (6X10X3)

[cbr74]

These tires are cool I think:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003243141495774853362.jpg

[atm92484_3]

When I had my Lightning apart I checked the front universals to see if they fit the rear and everything seemed to fit nicely, so you shouldn't have any trouble installing a pair.

[gkcontra]

Looks good cbr<- good to see you got your ID reinstated. It only takes a few minutes, you should be able to swap out the front and rear pretty quickly to size it up.

[cbr74]

atm92484_3... thanks for the info.

[tallcracker]

wow, its great to see so many good looking buggies around here :D
those PRO's are really awesome. does anyone know the specs on the replacement chasis marked -1 in the manual? is it just thicker? hard ano'd?
i noticed they are working on the web site, i hope it provides us alot more information.

[bubbastump]

did yall see the reports from testing? is so did any of yall order some ? my buggie flys now

i gots a feeling im gonna be ordering some as soon as this quart runs out

[soslo]

Hmmm?? Looks like the Lightning is shaping up nicely.
I do believe Kyosho is losing their foothold.
Now ya'll have to take on Ofna! LOL!! :)

bubbastump...
Thought you blew yourself up! hehe!!
That stuff sounds pretty good. Just may have to try it.

ezequiel...
Talk to Nang about running nitro onroad at Reflex. They are building a drivers's stand for running in the parking lot.
They are also going to court tomorrow, for the noise issue, so everyone hope for the best!
There are excellent indoor electric onroad races there too. Just something you may consider, since there isn't much nitro onroad going on.

[cbr74]

Some tips for future Pro owners...

Install the antenna mount first, it requires removal of the radio plate.

Pre-cut the threads in the servo mounts before installation.

On page 20, step 38, the 5.8mm ball with the flat side (C8102) wasn't tapped all the way through. You'll either have to finish tapping the threads or drill it out.

Put the splash guard on last, it just gets in the way otherwise.


Where do you guys have your downstops set at?

[gkcontra]

I don't have a Pro, but I have the down limiters set to stop the arms right where they normally hang, I like as much travel as possible for jumps, but my ride heighth is set at front arms level, rear dogbones/cvds level.

[tallcracker]

hey pro owners how is the chasis in tems of stiffness? any idea as to the thickness? i think is is 3.5 as opposed to the standard 3.0, but i have no idea because it is so hard to find specs and pictures of these parts anywhere. and some 1 please get those pro buggies muddy, they are making me jealous all shiny and clean, maybe when they are dirty i wont feel so bad, lol!

[cbr74]

It's 1/8", 3.2mm. It seems very rigid.

These plastic radio tray posts have got to go... the throttle servo flexs the plate almost to the point of touching the spur gear. I had to dial the brakes down to 50%. Maybe a 94358Z is just a wee bit overkill for throttle/brake.

Got 2 tanks of break-in done before I ran out of daylight.

tallcracker... if it's any consolation.. it does have a bit of dirt on it now. :p

[tallcracker]

i am still using the standard servos and i havent even thought about the flex the plastic post have... if a part isnt released soon i have a friend at the local machine shop who makes me parts very cheap and i will ask him about helping us out.

[cbr74]

They're a very simple piece. A piece of 6mm aluminum bar drilled and tapped for 3mm would do the trick.


Mugen ones are too long (29.5mm), Ofna's are too(31mm).
The Lightning's are 27.7mm.

I'll talk to my Raven pals and see if I can convince them to maybe make some for us. On that note... assuming the price is decent.. how many of you are interested in some aluminum radio tray posts?

[soslo]

Try the 7.5 or Hyper 7 posts. The 7.5 posts work on the Crono.
Looks like another rainy weekend tallcracker. :mad:

[cbr74]

Aha... the Kyosho's are 28mm, so those'd work if you didn't mind them being blue.

So if the 7.5 fit the Crono, then the reverse should be true, right?
CRN S1977A ALUM RADIO TRAY POST 3 PCS
But that's 3 and the Lightning uses 4, so you'd have to buy two of them.

Ya know... by the time we get it all figured out, HB will have aluminum radio tray posts available as an option :p

[JIMMYBANGBANG]

WOW these lightnings look nice and also run nice, i saw a couple run in person and they run just as good as any other 1/8 scale buggy. its getting me jelous of you guys, spend alot les and got alot. i found them things rtr for 275!!! that is amazing. they are nice buggies. the only prob i see is not much of hop up parts, well there is some but not enough for me:D

i dont know, with it being that cheap i might get one my self:D

[cbr74]

Hop-ups are limited.. at the moment. But this is Hot Bodies... you can bet they're working on hop-ups for it... lots of 'em.

Look what we have already:

7075 chassis
7075 4mm shocktowers
chassis braces
suspension holders
front hubs
center CVD's
etc..

I'd like to see aluminum radio tray posts and center diff. mounts.

[bubbastump]

well i had to faten a bit more with the d2+ but man is this stuff awesome
now if i can learn to drive at these speeds and quick i might qual for c main or better and the funny part is i am using os cv.12

fuel lasting longer =less pitstops
more top end= less time on full throttle
more bottom end =up to speed quick
powerban sweeter
idles smooth
idle at 1/2 factory reccomendation

i started using in buggie man is it quick
i blew by a kyosho the other day by an experienced driver
he asked about buggy and powerplant
he didnt seem happy with his untill i gave him some juice
now hes tickled to death

[tallcracker]

i am not going to have the high trq servo installed on my throttle and brake until the end of march. i will probably wait till then and see if hotbodies makes alum radio tray post. we could find something that will work, but seeing as how the hotbodies parts are so inexpensive we would probably pay alot more finding parts on our own.

soslo
yeah the weather looks pretty bad, is THRC planning on running at M & M again? i kinda hope not, i was hoping to run some laps there if by some chance the weather holds out. if it does hold out are u and justin gona run?

[cbr74]

Ok guys, noticed something on the Pro here which might or might not also be a potential problem on the RR.

It's a minor detail, but it pertains to reliabilty and it's an easy fix.

Notice that the threads of the screw don't fully engage the nylock:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003262647179236601074.jpg

The fix: replace the 3X16 flat head with a 3X18.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003261677566065003982.jpg

2mm can be the difference between finishing a race or going home early.

[soslo]

He is wanting to race tallcracker. We may just go to Reflex and tinker with things if this mess keeps up. I will let you know. If we tinker, bring the HB on by, and we can see what fits.

[cbr74]

New tech tip... easy adjusting brake bias.

These came in a C8112 bag of parts:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003266293934221945045.jpg

Now I can adjust brake bias in very small increments without having to move the rod collars.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
New tech tip... easy adjusting brake bias.

These came in a C8112 bag of parts:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003266293934221945045.jpg

Now I can adjust brake bias in very small increments without having to move the rod collars.

OOOhhh very nice...I'm thinking that may find its way onto my buggy :):D

[cbr74]

I wouldn't mind having another one to put on the throttle rod.

[gkcontra]

My Storm had those, wish I had thought to take em off before I sold it, they come in real handy. Not sure on a throttle one though, Trim seems easier to use.

[cbr74]

Not sure on a throttle one though, Trim seems easier to use.

True, but it'd look cool to have another one on the throttle.

[cbr74]

Another thing worth noting. The brake pad screws were way too tight, there was barely room for the disks to turn in between the pads. It was creating a lot of unwanted drag brake. I backed them off a bit and much better now. They sure are a pain to get to.

[gkcontra]

Did the Pro come prebuilt?

[cbr74]

Yes it did.

[tallcracker]

when u say that came in parts bag c8112 did you purchase that seperatly or did it come with your car? i know i didnt get anything like that in my box so i was just wondering.

does any1 have any ideas to boost the power on the stock engine? some light porting? any of the ofna piston and sleeve sets fit that have more ports?

does the pro come with the 3 shoe clutch? i am thinking of upgrading to this so let me know how performance is.


hey soslo
the weather is saying we only have a 20% chance of rain on saturday. i dont really know of anyplace that i can run tho. if reflex is going to be practicing with electrics and M & M is going to be hosting the THRC race pretty much all tracks will be full. just let me know what u and justin will be doing and i will make plans around that.

[geo8498]

Okay, what I consider, my first official hop-up. (Body and Wheels not counting)
Some things to note. This pipe did not come with a stay screw, and the screw from the stock pipe didn't fit. So the only thing I had was a phillips head screw from my box. Considering how much shorter the pipe is, I also wished that I had it in before I trimmed my new body to the other pipe.

You may also notice the thin guage I used for the wire. It's all i had at the time. I'll need to take some time this weekend to replace it and find the best mounting method.

I only ran it for half a tank, but I think it leaks. Not sure, because I may have just been running too rich. Didn't take the time to make any real adjustments. But the seam may need sealed.

I think for the cost, ($51) the pipe could have been flanged as well. I really had to crank down on the ties to keep it from popping off when running.

The retainer attachment for the fuel line also seems a bit whimpy.

Otherwise, I'm excited about it. It's adjustable, which should be fun. It sounds great too.

[chevelledude33]

Hello im curious about the pro buggy. Im wondering were you can get it? How much? and does it come with engine?, radio?:D

[cbr74]

when u say that came in parts bag c8112 did you purchase that seperatly or did it come with your car?
It came in a bag that HB sent me since my Pro was missing servo mounts when i got it.

does the pro come with the 3 shoe clutch?
Yes it does.


chevelledude... Ricky's R/C has them for $380 1-800-221-6053
Yes, it includes an engine. No, it does not include a radio.

[k_bojar]

cbr74 - You somehow got lucky with those parts...I was looking at the parts pic in the manual and it didnt look like they were included in the picture...I know I didnt get them in my Pro kit either...Or the RTR that's at the hobby shop :mad:

Hmmmm

[gkcontra]

Originally posted by cbr74
Ok guys, noticed something on the Pro here which might or might not also be a potential problem on the RR.

The fix: replace the 3X16 flat head with a 3X18.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003261677566065003982.jpg



I just checked on mine, and the screws on the RTR do go thru nut all the way, maybe the Pro has a thicker steering bar?

[bubbastump]

rember bubba u dummy get the pro car
then u can use the regular as a backup




i have to remind myself

[cbr74]

gkcontra... I think the knuckles on the Pro are different and that portion is a little thicker. Are the RTR steering knuckles purple?

[gkcontra]

No, they're just the standard cast stuff that most come with, are the Pro ones machined? (I see another item being added to the I WANT list)

[cbr74]

Well... according to Hot Bodies' part listing... they're 7075.

C8081-1 STEERING ARM L, R 7075 (LIGHTNING SERIES) :eek:

Aren't digicams great? Notice the area just below the ball link, and LOOK... actual dirt! ;)
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003273454612135217744.jpg


Add another reason to the list of "Why I want the Pro version." Or in my case... why I HAVE the Pro version. hehehe

[tallcracker]

hey cbr have u got the engine broken in yet? i am probably gonna finish off my 2nd gallong of gas by the end of the month and i will let every1 know how compression is. so far so good, still has a tight pinch at the top of the stroke.

i need to order a new body, any suggestions?

[cbr74]

It's broken in, today I should be able to let her rip. just have to wait for the wife to get home to watch the lil one.

I hear the Pro-Line body for the MP 7.5 fits nicely.

I'm getting a quote to have some aluminum radio tray posts done up. They'll also work for the front fuel tank mounting post.

[gkcontra]

Tall - the Proline crowd pleazer for the 7.5 should fit fine, I did a test fit with the one from my storm and it looked OK. Adn as much as I hate to say it, you won't save much going thru mail order on it, that is one thing that you can safely buy at M&M.

cbr - need to look at the arms when I get home, but I think the cast arms also have the built in concave washer for the ball mount, I thought it was part of the ball itself though, hard to tell when they are both silver. :)

[gkcontra]

I gotta learn to type faster, always someone sliding a reply in while I'm typing something...

[atm92484_3]

Tall, defiently go for the 7.5 Crowd Pleazer. I just mounted one on my Lightning and it lines up perfectly. I cut it along Proline's lines for everything but the body mount holes. Those I had to figure out, but aside from that, everything else was perfect. I'll get some pics up soon.

[cbr74]

Do any of you use the lil fuel filter mount option?

[tallcracker]

hey guys
thanks for the replies about the bodies. mine is getting pretty cracked up near the rear body mount so i think i will knock out the pink color and the cracked body with 1 stone.

Cbr
that fuel mount thing looks pretty clean. the tank is supposed to have a fuel filter built into it, altho i probably shouldnt be trusting that.

and you might consider keeping the standard plastic post for the gas tank. the small amount of flex they have might help prevent the gas from foaming so much during crashes. that and the fact this part doesnt really have very much stress on it. maybe i am overthinking the foaming of the gas and it wont make any difference, but it sounds good, lol

[cbr74]

Between the mounting post and the tank, there's a rubber insulator piece so I wouldn't worry too much about the foaming thing.

It doesn't NEED an aluminum mounting post... but it sure would look nice.

Now for the latest tech tip... if you're experiencing cutting out at high speed or in general inconsistent running... check to make sure your fuel tank is getting a good seal at the lid. Mine wasn't and was making the engine run a bit off. I tightened the two screws in the bottom of the lid of the tank and now it seals nicely and provides consistent back pressure.


I had a blast running a few tanks today. It handles amazingly well for box set-up. The tires don't have optimal traction on my loose dirt and sand terrain, but they do fairly well.

Once I got the tank sealing well, it ran flawlessly. Idle is rock solid, it pulls strong from bottom to top and has almost (but not quite) the power of a 4 port Hyper. It's definitely got more juice than your average P4.

[tallcracker]

thats true, it would look better if all the post were the same material and look. let me know as to how much the post are going to run. i will talk to my friend tuesday and see what he can do for us in terms of pricing.

[cbr74]

cracker.. shoot me an e-mail when you get a chance.

[bubbastump]

we3ll i got anothe crowd pleaser body today
after i paint ill post pics
i found my camera
do yall want to see mugen wing stay???
well here it is

[bubbastump]

oops i forgot to post pic i havent put it on yet

[tallcracker]

hey cbr i sent u an e mail but im not sure if it works. you have to send it through the forum and i cant just see ur address for some reason. anyways mine is
tallcracker21@aol.com for any1 who needs it
-later-

[cbr74]

I got it and ygm back. Let me know if the attachment works for you.

[tallcracker]

yeah i got the attachment, thanks for doing that man. i already blew it up and printed it, i will drop it off tuesday and see what he will do for me. should have an answer tuesday night or wed morning.

[bubbastump]

well paint job is done im not the greatest painter
i know its ugly nothing like the alien goo :D

[cbr74]

cracker.. get a quote for a hundred of them.

bubba.. doesn't look too bad. I'd like to see a pic. of it on the buggy.

[bubbastump]

ill show that tommorow night after i put it together

[soslo]

tallcracker...
You have mail! :)

[geo8498]

Everytime I tried to do a nice paint scheme, it screw it up. So I thought I'd run it through the alien goo right from the get-go and have it done with.

Nice paint job.

[cbr74]

haha... I don't paint any of my own bodies any more. I bought my buddy a Badger 155 for Christmas... now he paints all my bodies for me.

For the Lightning, I'm just going to run the stock one until it's toast then have my painter do up a 7.5.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003284657773718055402.jpg

[cbr74]

Well, I gave it a couple tanks of good thrashing today. 30 acres of forest in your backyard makes for all kinds of challenging terrain.
It was able to go some places I wouldn't have expected from a buggy. So far, no broken parts but the real thrashing is yet to come.... the BMX track. I've yet to have an R/C last a full day there without something breaking. The GT, T-Maxx, MBX R2, and Nitro Stampede have all come back from the BMX track a little less whole. Even my mighty Terra Crusher busted a few rear tie rod ends there.

The Dominator and the Lightning will be initiated to the BMX track very soon and I have high hopes for both.

[bubbastump]

here r my 2 rides
bodies on cars

[bubbastump]

oops

[bubbastump]

k i had to change image size

[HBLighting PRO]

The Pro Lighting doesnt come with the radio, nor the crappy steering servos:) which means, i get to use my own radio and y own high tourq servos, all the aluminum is great, I'm hoping it will hold up to all the race thrashing at my local track!:) :) :)

[HBLighting PRO]

Originally posted by cbr74
New tech tip... easy adjusting brake bias.

These came in a C8112 bag of parts:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003266293934221945045.jpg

Now I can adjust brake bias in very small increments without having to move the rod collars.


HOW DID YOU GET THOSE SERVO ARMS??????? I as well have the Pro, and I noticed I'm missing alot of parts that we're suppose to come with the kit.:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

[HBLighting PRO]

Originally posted by atm92484_3
Yes and yes on the engine and wing. The stock engine seems to be holding up fine. From my experience with other Lightnings, these engines seem to be pretty durable.

Its looking really hopeful right now for the following 7.5 parts:
-7.5 universals
-hinge pins
-turnbuckles (checked some online specs and they'll work but you'll need the upper arms from a 7.5 for the rear and any balls that go with them; the upper front 7.5 ones are 6mm shorter but you could probably get away with that or go with 7.5 parts for the outer piece that bolts onto the hub)
-7.5 clutches/flywheels
-brakes
-chassis braces
-pinion/bevel gears (same tooth count as 7.5)
-wheel hexes (looks like you'll just need to use the 2.6mm pins included with the hexes instead of the 3mm HB ones and the set screw will need to be tight)
-also doesn't look too hard to put bearings on the steering bellcranks (looks like 4x8s)

I'll keep ya guys posted after I test these out. Has anyone found a complete online manual for this buggy or any exploded diagrams?




Do you have any idea where to get an alumimum wing, thats pretty sick man, nice deal:)

[tallcracker]

hey lightning PRO
cbr got an extra bag of parts from hotbodies because something was damaged or missing, i forget. and in the bag of parts he got, c8112 it had the parts to hook up the throttle linkage that way. if you look back a page or two you can see where i asked him about it and he told me what else came in the bag of parts.
good luck with your pro man!
-later-

[cbr74]

HOW DID YOU GET THOSE SERVO ARMS??????? I as well have the Pro, and I noticed I'm missing alot of parts that we're suppose to come with the kit.

The servo arms are Ofna 10732 and 10742.

As for the parts... make sure you check both ends of the box it came in. They stuff parts into the enclosures in both ends.

If you're still missing parts, call up HB and they'll take care of it. My Pro was missing servo mounts, so I called them up and they sent me a complete C8112 parts bag.

[cbr74]

Doh, cracker... you beat me to it.

Also wanted to say welcome to the forum HB Lighting Pro. (I think maybe you were shooting for "HB Lightning Pro"?)

You are now 1 of 3 priveleged members that have managed to get their hands on a Pro Lightning.
(one of them obviously being me, k_bojar being the other)

Just out of curiosity.... where'd you get your Pro, what did it cost you, and what radio gear are you going to use?

[slamminsam]

I got one also. As a matter of fact, My hobby shop sells them. thie is where Kbo gets all his stuff. we sold about 8 rtrs and 2 pros
so far.

[cbr74]

Where's your shop located?

[slamminsam]

www.pottbellysrc.com in Vineland NJ:D

[cbr74]

Wow, race days must be jumpin wth all those different classes. I would so much like to have an offroad track like that somewhere in my area.

Does PotBelly's carry all the Lightning parts and do they do mailorder?

[HBLighting PRO]

Hey whats up,

I got my lightning at my LHS, Sheldons Hobbies, I got it for about $350, I did however check when Opened my box, if there were parts stuffed in the end of both ends, and there wasn't, I guess I'll have to call HB and have them send the right stuff. RATS!! Oh wel, I just use the servo arm's that came with servo.
And after that I have to wait for my new Futaba Magnum Junior to come in from boston, then I finally get to break it in after waiting a week.:mad:

[tallcracker]

ok well i got all my taxes done today and i am expecting to get a decent chunk back. i am in the market for the following items. i should be getting my check and ordering within the next 2 weeks.
i just kinda wanted to get every1's suggestions and opinions on these parts.

-FM radio (preferably with micro reciever)
-good steering servo that is race worthy
-throttle servo(if you think standard wont do)
-maybe a new motor(not more then $200 though)
-starter box

i am also going to order the thicker PRO chasis, bearings for the steering belcranks, stiffer rear shock tower, pro shocks and rear universals.

[atm92484_3]

Check out the 3PDFX. It comes with the transmitter and a pretty small receiver, but it leaves the servos up to you. The JR XS3 is another nice choice, but the receiver is a little bigger. If you don't have it already, get a rechargable NiMh rx pack (you'll need it when you upgrade the servos). For the servos, if you have the cash, check out Hitec's 5945 digital metal gear servos. For a cheaper alternative, you could also go for a 5645 or just a 645 servo. I was running the 645 in my Inferno this summer for the steering and it still did pretty good, but atleast go digital since its no more (with Hitec atleast) than $10 more over the analog versions. For the throttle/brake, I would upgrade to a 5925, a 5625, or just a 625. (The 45 servos are a little slower but offer more torque over the 25s and the 900 ones are more powerful than the 600s.) For the engine, Nitrohouse.com has a deal going right now on Novarossi P5s for $230 or if your LHS has MDP as a distributor, they might be able to do a little better on the engine. You could also check out the Hyper 21 8 ports. Lastly, I just picked up an Ofna 10250 starter box (single 12v motor). I would reccomend this to anyone looking to get a 1/8 box.

[tallcracker]

thanks ATM
as soon as tower gets its site back up i will find and look over some of the items u mentioned and start adding them to my shopping cart.

[cbr74]

Radio: Airtronics MX-3 The receiver fits fine in the Lightning radio box. It is the easiest programming, best bang for the buck FM radio on the market period. And I also own an XR2 and XR3 and had a Lynx 3D synth.

Servos: I've run Hitec 9 series in lots of cars with good luck, but for my Pro I opted for Air. 94358Z's... overkill for throttle, but absolute excellence for steering.

NiMh rx pack is an excellent suggestion as made by atm. Hump configuration fits great in the Lightning. I'm running an Ofna 1000 mah NiMh in my Lightning. The extra punch is noticeable between alki's and NiMh.

As for engine.. I'm not much help, I've never run anything stronger than an 8 port Hyper.

I agree with atm about the starter box.. I like the single 12V motor variety. Pick up a 12v gel cell battery and charger for it and you're set.

The Pro chassis isn't thicker by much if any, but it is higher grade aluminum.
The steering bearings are (4) 6X10X3. Also consider them for the brake cams.. (2)5X8X3.5 flanged. For all my bearings I look to Big Ball Bearings rubber sealed, distributed by RcBoyz (http://www.rcboyz.com/)


I detonated my wing today... hit the ramp crooked, cartwheeled, and kablooee... wing pieces went everywhere. I laughed when it shattered since I knew from information from this forum that it wasn't a matter of IF I'd break the wing, but rather WHEN.
And I was prepared... I'm drilling mounting holes in an Ofna tri-wing as I type this. :D


Does anybody perchance have access to a Mugen MBX4? I'd like to see if the center diff mounts are interchangeable.... those purple aluminum Mugen center diff mounts are gorgeous.

[cbr74]

Pic. of my freshly installed Ofna tri-wing (OFN 16011):

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003294150103392476920.jpg

And today's tech tip... use the busted piece from your old wing as a template to mark the mounting holes for the new wing and drill the holes at 9/32". It's 1/32" over stock and makes putting the wing on much easier.

[tallcracker]

yeah it is so funny how the wind just doesnt crack, it literally shatters. mine musta broken into 4 or 5 seperate pieces!


ok guys
i looked into the MX3 and i really like its features. i wish it had a built in lap counter, but we cant get everything we wish for right? i found the X3 at some mailorder company for 90 bucks w/o the servos. because i am going to be replacing them they arent worth anything to me anyways. and this deal seems to be almost too good to be true.

the mimh is something i have needed for a long time. here is my delima. i have pretty much sold of all my electric stuff from back in the day, so i dont have a variable amp charger. i dont want to be stuck with a 4 hour charger on the reciever pack and on the other hand i dont want to buy an $80 charger just to charge my reciever packs. any suggestions?

the engine might stay for a while. it has actually been a pretty good performer, but i am considering getting a standard backplate and getting rid of the pullstarter. i will then get that ofna box suggested and just start it up using that method. the 1 way has been slipping and as of late that pull starter is more trouble then is worth.

dos any1 know what ofna backplate will fit?

and thanks for the info on where to get the bearings cbr.

maybe we could drop by the mugen forum and trouble them for some dementions on that center diff casing.
if they can give us some quick numbers we would compare it to ours and see if it will fit.

[atm92484_3]

I'm running the backplate for the Force engines. If you want, I can get the part number tomorrow at work. Its an exact fit though.

[cbr74]

The 21BB, P4, and .25 all use the same parts. (Because the 21 BB is made by Force)
The backplate is OFN 52090.


As for a budget charger.. I just picked up a SuperBrain 959. So far it seems pretty good. $45.99 at RcBoyz.
They also have the MX-3 with (1) 94102 servo for $95.

[tallcracker]

thanks guys
i think that the backplate will free up just a tad bit of power. and thanks for the info on the Mx3. the standard servo is worth the 5 bucks, if anything to keep as a back up for the throttle. i think i will check that site out

[cbr74]

The NiMh packs I'm using are OFN 10212. Also available at (you guessed it) RcBoyz for $20.

Now to go bug the Mugen guys for some measurements....

[HBLighting PRO]

i thought you guys might like this, i took my brothers titan wheels and put them on my pro lol.

[slamminsam]

Do Not go to his home page. I don't see the humor in this.

you an ass yourself.

[HBLighting PRO]

ahhhh......isnt that nice, a brand-spaking new Hot Bodies Lightning Pro!

[HBLighting PRO]

Originally posted by slamminsam
Do Not go to his home page. I don't see the humor in this.

you an ass yourself.


sorry about that, but I found it to be the funniest thing I have ever stumbled onto:p

[slamminsam]

Smooth move. I retract the remark about calling you an ASS.

[HBLighting PRO]

Originally posted by slamminsam
Smooth move. I retract the remark about calling you an ASS.



lol

[cbr74]

Yeah that brand new Pro is nifty, but I like it when they've been driven.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003296148730855135405.jpg

[HBLighting PRO]

Originally posted by cbr74
Yeah that brand new Pro is nifty, but I like it when they've been driven.
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/2003296148730855135405.jpg


yeah, that is nice when you know it runs

[cbr74]

It runs and runs well. I'm going to run this 21 BB into the ground then look into something with some more oomph. Picco XP maybe.

[tallcracker]

hey guys
how are the shocks on the pro? i was thinking of picking up a set because i assume they are smoother then the standard shocks, and having an extra pair would make turning much easier and quicker. and do the spring from the 7.5 fit?

[gkcontra]

Originally posted by tallcracker
hey guys
how are the shocks on the pro? i was thinking of picking up a set because i assume they are smoother then the standard shocks, and having an extra pair would make turning much easier and quicker. and do the spring from the 7.5 fit?


Smoothness is all in how you build them, a good shock builder could make plastic shocks feel smooth, the benefit of the Pro shocks would be hard annodizing as opposed to just the nifty colored anno. Also the caps are alum. instead of plastic. Yes the 7.5 springs will fit. For M&M I would go with blue all the way around.

Meganitro has them on ebay for 68.00 for all 4 right now.

[cbr74]

The Pro shocks also have the hardened shafts.

[cbr74]

Well, gave it a thorough inspection after the thrashing it received.

Found nothing bent or broken, but I did discover the front upper chassis brace bolt was loose. Getting it tightened is a bit of a pain. I took off the left front wheel and turned the steering all the way to the right so I could get to the nylock with some needle nose pliers.

So far I'm impressed with the quality of the build and the durability of the parts.

[tallcracker]

today i got in my 4mm front shock tower!! that thing is a hoss!! i dont think i could bend it if i tried, it is literally indestructable. i cant wait for my rear tower to come.

the parts are starting to come together :D
its going to be a great racing season here in houston!

[cc2096]

Heys guys. I'm new to this thread, and will be getting a Lightning Pro on friday w/electronics. I'm getting a JR XS-3. and I am wondering what servos I should get. Whats the rating of servos that most of you guys use? The ones that come with the XS-3 are JR obviously, models Z590 & Z270. Are these good to use with the Pro, or should I scrap them and get better ones? Thanks in advance for the help.

Chris

[ttweedle]

For steering I would get a servo that has at least 100oz of torque. I got a hitec digital I think its a 9525. @ 6volts the transit is .08 and 130oz of torque. This one is working fine for me. And it is less than 90 bucks. And since it has a 2 yr warranty on it, Hitec will get all my business. I have a stock throttle servo but am getting a hitec 945 for that, it put out like 140 oz of torque @ 6volts. That should be able to lock up all 4 tires at once.

[ttweedle]

Got a question about setup for the lightning. Mine came with toe-out on the front end. Is that normal for a 4wd? on all my 2wd offroaders they usually have toe-in. Well thats all for now. I also ordered some mp7.5 K2 parts for my lightning. Will let you know how and if they work. Im replacing those plastic shock caps, too.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by ttweedle
Got a question about setup for the lightning. Mine came with toe-out on the front end. Is that normal for a 4wd? on all my 2wd offroaders they usually have toe-in. Well thats all for now. I also ordered some mp7.5 K2 parts for my lightning. Will let you know how and if they work. Im replacing those plastic shock caps, too.

tweedle - what K2 parts did you get?? Just curious since I'm looking to be able to add some things to my Pro :D:)

[cbr74]

The Z590 is 85oz and .15 seconds which isn't great but not bad.

I run 94358Z's on throttle and steering. 200 oz. and .10 seconds. Only downfall to them is the $100 a piece price tag.

Mine came with toe-out on the front end. Is that normal for a 4wd? Yes, it's normal. The toe out improves turn in on the 4wd's. I dialed a little of mine out on my Pro because it felt a little "twitchy"

[nad138]

Hi, I'm relatively new on the R/C hobby and was reading through this thread. To the guys that actually live in Houston, besides M&M, are there any other on-road/off-road tracks around ? Later guys.

[cbr74]

OK guys, if your diffs are leaking, check to see if they have the C8021 gaskets installed. Mine didn't.

Also for you Pro owners, if your buggy didn't come with a C8058 switch cover, HB owes you one.

The HB tech recommends 5K/10K/1K for the diffs.

[k_bojar]

Originally posted by cbr74
OK guys, if your diffs are leaking, check to see if they have the C8021 gaskets installed. Mine didn't.

Also for you Pro owners, if your buggy didn't come with a C8058 switch cover, HB owes you one.

The HB tech recommends 5K/10K/1K for the diffs.

hmmm...guess I'll be checking that out - about the diffs that is...I know I'm missing the switch cover - but a $2.00 purchase from GS racing gave me 1 plus a spare :)

I should call them anyways, I was missing a couple of pieces out of the servo plastic parts bag

[HBLighting PRO]

Originally posted by k_bojar
hmmm...guess I'll be checking that out - about the diffs that is...I know I'm missing the switch cover - but a $2.00 purchase from GS racing gave me 1 plus a spare :)

I should call them anyways, I was missing a couple of pieces out of the servo plastic parts bag


Water Ballons work just as well. Is It just me, or was the PRO missing alot of parts when you bought yours?

[cbr74]

Mine was missing a few knick knacks, but it isn't surprising to me. A new kit like that is bound to have a few initial issues. Mine was missing servo mounts, diff gaskets, and the silicone switch cover.
A few bucks worth of parts.

It's costing HB more in shipping than the missing parts are worth. LOL

[tallcracker]

went to the track today and ran through about 1/3 gallon. alot of people showed up with 1/8th scales so i had some good competition. one guy with a kania was really running good. overall we were neck and neck, when 1 person took the lead the other wasnt more then 2 feet behing until it swapped again.

this was nice because it was really the first occasion i was able to push myself and my car to its limits for 8 minutes and truly know that we are both capable against machines costing much much more.

my engine now has 2.5 gallons through it and it still has great compression. i am thinking it can go 4 gallons then i will either replace it with an O.S. or pinch the piston and sleeve.