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tripplefatty
10-25-2003, 11:20 PM
i love how you guys jump all over the savage..& talk it down..saying they had to make three trucks to fix all the problems with the first & second trucks....give me a break...what about traxxas & there tmaxx they have more problems then they are worth..the hpi savage is by far the most worthy truck on the market today...out of the box it is very strong & very little work has to be done to make a winner on the tracks....on the first truck...ya it was under powered & had dog bones that needed to be moded...but thats it....there is not a truck on the market that is even close to the savage....maybe the monster gt will be up there with the savage....but hpi fixes there problems.... alot of companys dont..they wait for the after market to fix them for them....now when thing start to go wrong with the gt..because they will just like any other new product..will you say bad things about there truck or just deal with it because its associated????
im thinking about getting one of these gt ...not because its associated...because i want some thing new...i mite go with the ss to ...
jamie...

JEDKAR
10-26-2003, 01:59 AM
It was the front center cvd but check them all to make sure.

cbr74
10-26-2003, 03:31 AM
I'm done with the Savage debate. I'm not even going to go near a debate about the T-Maxx....

Instead... since this is the MGT thread, let's talk MGT.

OK.... a well known aftermarket company took theirs and beat the tar out of it. Quite literally set out to destroy it. The carnage is as follows...

rear shocktower broken, rear bumper broken, 3 shocks blown apart.

the shocks are no surprise... when you have plastic bodies and plastic caps, it's well known the damage that can occur.
AE... you've got FT aluminum shock bodies available already... how about giving us some FT aluminum shock caps?

The rear bumper.... a by-product of jumping a 12 pound truck high into the air and landing it on its butt. Also... while not pretty, doesn't affect the trucks ability to keep right on going.

The shocktower... now here's the part that concerns me... hopefully it was a freak incident, but might not have been. Time will tell. No doubt it won't take long for an aftermarket or FT alternative, but in the mean time... might not hurt to get a replacement or two ordered, just in case.

When you set out to intentionally beat a vehicle into submission.... break it to the point it's no longer functional... and all you manage is $10 in parts and ten minutes of down time to repair or replace them.... that says to me it must be a pretty good rig.

Jamie
10-26-2003, 09:00 AM
I agree with cbr74. This is not a what’s better , the Savage or MGT thread. It is about the MGT, your experiences with it, your likes and dislikes.
I have one of the first Savages and have enjoyed it very much. I fixed all the problems it originally had and it's been good ever since.:cool:
I bought the MGT yesterday not because it was better, bigger or faster but because I felt and now know that it is much easier to work on than my Savage.:D Every time I mention this on a forum I get slammed so I expect to again. I'm just one of those guys that likes to keep my stuff spotless and the MGT is going to be a lot easier to keep clean because everything is so well laid out and easy to get at. Way to go Team Associated.:D :D :D
I'm going to take the advice of this thread and loctite my CVD's and start breaking her in today.:D I will report any problems so others with the MGT can check things before it happens to them.

Jamie
10-26-2003, 12:00 PM
This engine just has to be built by OS. It runs like a champ even when super rich. :) Fired right up with a drill.:D
Checked my CVD's and all were tight. High speed was only 2 turns out so I set it 2 3/4 turns like the directions said. The low speed and idle where as per instructions. The slipper was tightened all the way so backed it out 1/4 turn as per instructions. All the adjustment screws were very accessible. So pleasant to work on compared to my Savage. Quieter than my Savage but still louder than my RC10GT FT. The neighbors are still smiling. This truck is in a league of it's own. It sets the new standard for RTR's of any scale.:cool:

tripplefatty
10-26-2003, 01:16 PM
i no this is a thread on the gt ...but why are all ...or most of you guys are comparing it to the savage?????...but any way...how is the power of the motor...dose it get out of the hole good???...dose it get loaded down when climbing or mudding....i no it will be a good running motor ..because i had a gt with a .15 in it made thunder tiger..& it ran great & never had a problem with it holding a tune...dose it get hot fast???...thanks guys..looking to get one but need a few thing answered
thanks jamie....& to say its the best rtr out there...well its WAAAAAY!!!!! to soon to say that....

RCSavage
10-26-2003, 07:40 PM
The engine does hold a tune good. It is extremely easy to start and will run threw a tank without fail. (even upside down!!!!) I love the fuel tank, no more running to your truck when it flips over. The engine really surprised me at the power it had. I thought the extra weight would make this thing slow but it really gets out of the hole and pulls hard in 2nd also!! (I think it's geared perfect!!) Mine can just about pull the wheels off the ground on take off. Sometimes it actually does pull wheelies but most times they come just short of leaving the ground but the truck really takes off. It doesn't bog in deep grass or off road at all. Actually, if I had to compare it too anything I would compare it to the Savage 25. They are both very close to the same, except the MGT is just plain HUGE!!!!!

Hope this helps.

cbr74
10-26-2003, 08:01 PM
Well I finally broke mine in today and put it through its paces. The engine is a total sweetheart, it ran flawlessly the whole day. Temps were mild, I'd say 230ish after some very hard running.

The engine has plenty of power to get the job done. You'll be spinning tires before it'll ever bog down. They did a good job with the gearing, first is nice and low for good take off and great hillclimbing ability, second is a fair jump and gets it up to a very respectable top speed. I didn't have a chance to radar it today, but I'd venture to say it's somewhere in the upper thirties and perhaps faster than that.

My favorite feature has to be the fuel tank. It's very comforting when you traction roll it 50 yards away and don't have to run to it and hope it doesn't die before you get there. Instead I just take a leisurely stroll over to it, flip it over and keep on going.

The ground clearance and steep angle of attack of the front end make it an off road monster. It tackled the toughest terrain I could throw at it and never once got stuck.

The reverse works very well. It's much like the T-Maxx in that you have to be at a standstill or close to it to switch from forward to reverse. BUT instead of the herky jerky take offs that the Maxx is known for, the MGT takes off smooth every time. It doesn't have the infernal clutches that the Maxx has.

Initially, the brakes were horrible. Stopping power was near zilch. I found that the linkage wasn't really adjusted correctly and the spring stopper on the throttle rod was too close to the attachment point. So... when the brakes were applied, the throttle spring was compressed to solid and stalled the servo. Since its equipped with a TRS, I simply moved the rod collar on the throttle rod until the spring no longer put any resistance against the brakes.

I also moved the brake arm out as far as I could from the pivot point, giving the servo more leverage and I turned the ATV on the transmitter as far as it would go. With those simple adjustments, the brakes now work very well. It won't quite lock those big ole tires, but it does come to a halt in a timely manner.


With a stronger throttle/brake servo, I'm sure it would be capable of endo enducing stopping power.

tripplefatty
10-26-2003, 08:16 PM
thanks guys ..im thinking this is the way to go....keep up the good work guys....keep the info coming on this monster....how are the shock on it...they look OK but do they hold a good build or do they leak a little......i put the associated shocks on my maxx & they were no good...the truck was to big...it was like they just took there long 10 scale truck shocks & sold them in a kit off 8...i hope they work on this...
thanks guys
jamie....

cbr74
10-26-2003, 08:26 PM
The shocks seem to perform fine but they are plastic bodies and plastic caps so they aren't going to hold up to severe abuse.

1 Bad STi
10-26-2003, 10:55 PM
Hey fellas, How many tanks did you run for break-in?

Ninja Viper
10-27-2003, 10:38 AM
I am wondering if the shocks are interchangeable with T-Maxx shocks. If that is true there will be no problems getting some good durable shocks. Proline has some awesome new shocks coming out soon.

tripplefatty
10-27-2003, 01:12 PM
yes the proline shocks are very nice....but i dont have alot off cash to throw around i would have to run it in the stock form for some time...& would like for it to hold hold up...i run very hard every time i play...so i need to no all these little problems with the truck....is there any meatel gears in the tranny...& is there 4 spider gears in the diffs...is it a 1/8th scale diff or a cheap diff like the maxx?????.....would it hold more power or would have to take out a loan to get the thing that i would need to run a big pony motor..???
what is the out put of the tt motor.......revs/bhp
thanks alll
jamie...

RCSavage
10-27-2003, 03:12 PM
So far I have had no problems with the shocks! That is all speculation right now. I have run my MGT as hard as I can so far and have had no problems at all. As for your second question, Associated claims to have built the truck and drivetrain to withstand the upgrade of a .70 engine!

My cousin is in need of some money and offered me his new MGT. I already bought one so if anyone needs a very slightly used one (8 tanks including break-in) for $400 plus $25 shipping. So if this is against the rules, Just trying to help.

PhishPhan
10-27-2003, 03:43 PM
I would have bought it but i just got off the phone with ultimate and they are sending mine today or tomorrow.. This is my first nitro truck and I have actually been away from the hobby for some time now. My last trucks were a monster beetle and a clodzilla IV. I am sooo excited to get this truck. Any advice you guys can give me is appreciated. I especially could use advice on engine break in and different tools/items i may need that i wouldnt have. thanks!

1 Bad STi
10-27-2003, 09:15 PM
Does anyone know the suggested HP this engine makes?
Also, how many tanks for break-in?

RDucky02
10-28-2003, 12:27 AM
....an awesome excuse to buy a new drill/driver cause you need one to start your engine!

I have a Ryobi drill/driver and its just not giving the power to start the engine. After a few starts its just not kicking like it was. So I went off to buy one today, then i stopped midstep and said, why dont i see what other people are using and see how its going... So my question is then what drill are you using to start it, and how is it doing? is it kicking it over with supreme ease or whining for you to stop pushing the trigger? thanks for the help...

dave

QUAKE&SHAKE
10-28-2003, 01:00 AM
This drill will work with ease. 450 in-lbs torque :) http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=3186

cbr74
10-28-2003, 02:42 AM
The drill start is certainly a nice feature... that I've yet to use. If you prime the engine properly and have a fresh glow ignitor it only takes a maximum of two pulls on the pullstart to fire it up.

One suggestion I do have is to get a cordless drill with an adjustable torque clutch. The reason being... if the drill has too much torque and the engine should flood, the drill could conceivably bend the con rod. Just a thought.

As for break in... opinions vary widely. I don't agree with the manual's suggested break in procedure. I've broken in many an engine and the heat cycling method has always worked best for me.
Instead of worrying about number of tanks, I get the engine up to operating temperature then cool it down and repeat.
There's a few things that heat cycling does. It stabilizes the molecular structure of the components, allows the piston and sleeve to mate to each other while at the proper rate of thermal expansion, and it doesn't cause loss of precious compression that other break in methods can.
Most important is that during cool down, the piston needs to be at bottom dead center. I mark the flywheel where bottom dead center is before I ever actually start the engine. That allows me to set it to BDC quickly and easily during each cool down period.
I give my engines at least ten heat cycles before normal running.

I'm not saying this is the best procedure or that others aren't just as good or better, all I'm saying is it has always worked well for me.

Techspert
10-28-2003, 07:06 AM
Hey Guys,

What kind of Bodies does the Monster GT take? Can it use standard sized 1/10th Savage/T-Maxx sized bodies. I would really like to get one of those Proline H2/Hummer bodies for it. Do you think it would be an issue fitting them on the Monster GT?

...and if getting a Proline-type body, would special body posts be needed? Does Associated make any additional body posts? Thanx...

Ninja Viper
10-28-2003, 11:13 AM
Hey Techspert, no and yes.

No on any of the traditional T-Maxx bodies. They will not fit or if you are able to get it to fit it will look funny because it is too small.

Yes on the Hummer. Proline is thinking ahead and already has a Hummer H2 body in production http://www.prolineracing.com/proline/bodies/3165/3165.html unfortunatley it is the Urban style and not the Militia which I would have preffered.
None the less it is our best option as Parma's bodies are the ugliest things you have ever seen.
Another thought would be to order yourself a Terra Crusher body, they are avaible clear on Ebay from time to time.

RDucky02
10-28-2003, 05:29 PM
As you can tell you all probbaly have read my posts many times, like some of the others. Anyway, after this weekend at the state park and running the truck I noticed a few things that I wanted to comment on.

The engine in my opinion as well as others also feel that it was a good choice and TT did a good job of producing the engines. Most notibly I thought was the access to the needles and the ease of starting it. I have 2 tmaxxs and other cars as Ive said and the most annoying part of the sirio is that you cant access the low speed needle without removing the fuel tank... That can get very annoying sometimes when running ina field and you gotta adjust but you gotta rip the car down, so instad i just run it as is. I also like how AE put the tuned pipe on there.

Reverse is so much beter than the tmaxx, super super smooth as well as the accleration thanks for the 3 shoe!

I like how the truck is layed out and hope to throw a second fuel tank on there. not like the run times are super long as is.

Everything else I think has been commented on, just wondering if anyone else has wobbly wheels and what they did to fix this. I havent sat down and wrenched to cure it yet, gotta run to class so wondering if i an get some prenotions for you what it could be. have a good night and thanks for any response.

dave

RCSavage
10-28-2003, 05:50 PM
I notice after running about 4 tanks threw mine that my tires were wobbling also. However it was just loose wheel nuts. I just snugged them back down and all was good again.

eurylokhos
10-28-2003, 07:53 PM
Here's a few things to report. I beat the hell out of the MGT today, running it up and over huge boulders/rocks, jumping off of big dirt mounds, and cartwheeling it inadvertently a few times. Only damage to report is a broken fin on my Force .26, and a dented header. After running it for a few days, I've come to the conclusion that it's just as tough as my Savage.

For bodies, Standard Maxx size bodie do NOT fit. I have been bashing wiht it wiht a Parma F-150 for the Maxx, and while it does fit, it looks ridiculous, it's MUCH too small, and isn't wide enough to cover the whole chassis, and the body is about 4" too short. I have a beat up Hummer H2 from my Savage that would fit, and not look wierd.

And, finally, for those wondering about the construction of the Diffs, I've just had the rear one on my MGT out to fill it with 5000wt DIff fluid. THe diff comes out pretty easily, I had it out in about 5 minutes, with about 12 screws. THe construction of the Diffs is great, it is held together with 4 large screws, and has 4 spider gears with notched cross pins. IN all, it's nice and heavy duty, and I don't see any potential problems with it.

Bigred94
10-28-2003, 08:25 PM
I have a NIB Monster GT with the limited edition paint scheme (Flag Design) for sale. I just moved into a new home and need the cash, my loss is your gain. I thought I would give everyone here a shot before I listed it on the buy/sell forum. $375.00 plus shipping. I have perfect e-bay feedback and accept paypal...PM or Post Here

nad138
10-28-2003, 09:56 PM
Some more questions for the guys with the BFT :

- will a one piece pipe fit without any mods ?
- what other engine have you tried ? (.26 ???)
- did you try using different wheels/tires ?

As I plan on using this to race, I'm thinking of how to make the thing lighter and faster. Your inputs are highly appreciated.

cbr74
10-28-2003, 10:01 PM
I doubt the one piece will fit properly... but I can't say for certain.

Haven't even considered changing the engine... the TT isn't the most powerful .21 ever... but it is so user friendly, I'd have a hard time parting with it.

A tire/wheel change would definitely lose some weight.

fuzzy2133
10-28-2003, 11:13 PM
nad138 - t-maxx tires fit and they look out of place. be one hell of a acceleration boost though. could try a savage set however I do not have any.

cbr74 is right on the one piece pipe, build a different pipe hanger and it looks like it may fit.

Kenny123
10-29-2003, 12:27 AM
Does anyone have a movie of the Monster GT in auction?

nad138
10-29-2003, 02:19 AM
Thanks for the inputs guys. I just might try to use the existing header and see if a different pipe will mount properly. I'll also try to put in a Picco .26 with a roto-start after I've checked the TT and see how that goes. As for the smaller tires, it'll definitely lower the CG and would be much easier for the engine/tranny to turn it. I'll just take out the servo for reverse to get a few grams off.

eurylokhos
10-29-2003, 07:19 AM
A couple questions I can answer for you. The engine is easy to change, I put a Force .26 in mine without ever starting the TT. It was a simple bolt on affair (getting the TT in a buggy was a little tougher!) I also have a Picco .26 that I'm going to put in in a while, and I son't see any problems with that either. THe engine mounts are fully adjustable, THe only thing you are going to have to change is the exhaust manifold, as the one from the TT is a narrow diameter, and wouldn't fit my Force, or my Picco. I tried putting a standard sized Ofna racing pipe on mine, and it didn't work because the pipe was too long, rubbing on the right rear tire. If you had a pipe that was short enough (none of mine worked) it'd mount right on the coupler like any other exhaust. THere is a cut out on the chassis to mount the pipe longitudinally (like a Savage, etc), that you could use. You would need a new manifold that would place the pipe 90 degrees from the engine to use it, but that would allow a longer pipe to be installed.

For tires, the Maxx and Savage tires fit. I've tried my Savage tires, and a set of Big joes, and they both worked fine, but looked a little out of place, as they are smaller than stock. BUt, there was a weight savings with the Savge tires, and a performance increase.

CHUCKMANDO
10-29-2003, 04:48 PM
Just ordered mine. I am getting the limited edition. Won't have it till next week though. Ordered another body which to run with . I am hoping to put in my team orion .26 which rocks in my hyper 7. My son wants wheelies. That should do the trick.

nad138
10-29-2003, 07:35 PM
Thanks Eury for the info. My best bet then is to get the .21 manifold for an 1/8 on-road car to mount the race pipe longitudinally. I'll check this option out when mine arrives. For the tires, looks is only 2nd to me as long as performance is good.

RDucky02
10-30-2003, 01:34 AM
Hi again,

After alot of thought and alot of heart break Ive decided to part with one of my trucks. Anyway, Im looking to buy a savage 25 or the SS... I have the MGT and i love it, i just want to extend my collection. Anyway, a stock tmaxx with a 2.5 that still needs to be broken in, brand new engine, practically brand new... im asking 275....obo, its on ebay if you want to bid instead. haev a good day, if your interested email me.... RDucky02@aol.com

TPhalen
10-30-2003, 01:37 AM
nad138:

- Not sure what you mean by a 'one-piece pipe'? If you're referring to a side exhaust, yes, it will fit, but you need to get a side exhaust header (available soon) and a new pipe hanger. You will be able to use the existing pipe in this situation...no need to change it out

- We've tried a couple other engines to make sure they fit correctly. So far, anything with a .21 sized case should fit without any modifications.

- T-Maxx size wheels and tires will work, but I would suggest throwing on a set of ProLines Big Joe or 40 series tires. We tested those awhile back and it made the truck come alive!!!! Handling was incredible (everything else in stock form)!!!! And, you shouldn't have to change the gearing unless your track is big and you would have to change it anyway. With the smaller T-Maxx size tires it is suggested that you do change the gearing...

fastharry
10-30-2003, 07:17 AM
Awhile back one of the RC car mags did an interview with Cliff...and he said one of Associateds goals was to produce a drivetrain that would be strong enough to take engine upgrades..all the way to a .50....

Is(and was) this still the case?.....?....

tell me yes and I'll add the truck to my gt,nitro DS,and 2 nitro tc3 collection....and while we're at it,I hear there's a new suspension being tested for the nitro tc3?......

Muffinman
10-30-2003, 07:44 AM
hey is the AE mt good for jumping and bashing around if so i whould get one instead of a savage ss could any one tell me who put it to the real test for high jumps and a real hard core bashing around

eurylokhos
10-30-2003, 07:46 AM
Read the posts in this thread and in the Monster Turck thread, your questions have already been answered.

nad138
10-31-2003, 02:51 AM
TPhalen, thanks for the inputs. What I meant with a 1-piece pipe is where the header and exhaust is connected together with 3 small springs with a gasket in between the two. With the engine mounted transversely, I'm guessing that a performance pipe will mount just fine in the stock position. Since Eury mentioned that the header will not fit either a Force .26 or a Picco .26, then I'll be needing a header that is short (to not touch the rear right wheel/tire) to make this work. That's why I asked if a one-piece pipe will work.

For the tires, if you've already tried this and found it to handle much better I'd like to go with the 40 series bowties rather than the big joes. Which right now I still can't find.

nad138
10-31-2003, 03:08 AM
Scratch that.....found some:D

CHUCKMANDO
10-31-2003, 07:39 AM
Since I am more of an onroad guy,(ntc3 & mrx3) I will be doing alot of learning with the truck. As stated before, my son has a hyper7 with the team-orion .26 in it. AE took such a long time puttin out the ntc3 too, and I have a great expirance with the car. That was the deciding factor getting the MGT. It is going to be my sons truck(of cource I will be using just as much:) ), his main concern is that if the truck is as heavy as it is, will he be able to do tricks with it. Once broken in, can the mgt do wheelis stock, or has anyone tried different gearing or tires to make it work. Also is there any sites explaining how to do tricks the best way. Please do not get me wrong, we did not get the truck just for wheelis and endos, but he wants the capability to do them. I thought about it and I rather keep the team-orion in the hyper7. Plus in reading earlier posts, I may need another manafold.
Thanks in advance
Charlie

Muffinman
10-31-2003, 07:58 AM
all i want is yes or no

RCSavage
10-31-2003, 08:19 AM
yes

RDucky02
10-31-2003, 02:14 PM
wheelies.... yes definatly!
flips..... with a little practive you can

i put big joes on the monster gt last night with mambo rims and i dont know. it look cool, but i just dont know, they look cool but still dont seem to fit, so im gonna run it on them and see how performance does, much smaller side walls so i might be able to do turns a bit faster

Lordkett
10-31-2003, 06:47 PM
Finally got to run mine today, man this thing is awesome. It has more power than I thought it would, especially for something so big. It is so easy to start and tune. I am extremely happy with this truck.:D

Ninja Viper
10-31-2003, 09:19 PM
Finally got to drive mine tonight (had to dodge the trick or treaters) but wow!!! You guys, seriously, this truck rocks!!
Awesome acceleration, beautiful suspension and the attention to detail, WOW!
My favorite is the way ot squats when you lay on the throttle, with a little stiffer springs and gearing this thing will wheelie all day.
All you nay sayers.....watch out, cause this truck is going to surprise you. Unfortunatley it will be sometime next spring before I will get to try it on the track, but I can tell already that it will be great there too.

It is going to be a great dual purpose truck (both bashing and racing, probably a better basher though).

CHUCKMANDO
10-31-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by RDucky02
wheelies.... yes definatly!
flips..... with a little practive you can

i put big joes on the monster gt last night with mambo rims and i dont know. it look cool, but i just dont know, they look cool but still dont seem to fit, so im gonna run it on them and see how performance does, much smaller side walls so i might be able to do turns a bit faster

Tks RD, Guess I will keep the rtr engine in if it can pop it up afterall. Please let us know how the big joes work. I was talking to my lhs about putting them on too. He did have a concern about using the 26 on the truck though. He wasn't sure the diffs would hold up but noone around here has tried it yet. Can't wiat till it arrives
.

nad138
11-01-2003, 12:51 AM
Chuck, Eury has already mounted and run his Force .26 in the BFT. Some reports here says that it was designed to handle .50 to .70 engines.

RDucky02
11-01-2003, 12:57 AM
The big joes hooked up well and to my surprise actually looked good on the truck when i wasnt sitting like half a foot from it... It had more acceleration and about the same top speed. better turning chareteristics but it looked like a big car instead of a monster truck... Better accleration due to the lightened weight. about hte same top speed, although the circumfrence is smaller the tires are lighter so it got up there still to mid 30's... and witht he smaller side walls as i hoped it turned better however because the tires were wider the stock servo had a hard time getting them moving at slower speeds. but once it did get the tires turing it did fine but just beaware if you run them that they dont get turning as easy, especially on those high speed run when u need to make a small adjustment and it doesnt happen right away.

as fot the .26 ive heard of people putting them in, i haven seen it, but i seen it in a few threads and my LHS confirmed what people have been hearing that the drive train was desgined to run on a .30 motor so ive got no concerns of dropping in a bigger engine, but for now the .21 will be good for the rest of fall, maybe upgrade in winter when i want some more raw power.

took the truck through some pretty rough terrain and hard hits, faired fine, no broken parts. had alot of fun. cant wait for 2marra, another beautiful day here in the burbs of chicago.

dave

CHUCKMANDO
11-01-2003, 07:52 AM
Good news to hear. I will be going onroad today, but hopefully I can get a chance to check some offroad sites since they are pretty close to where I am going. Tks guys and have fun.

eurylokhos
11-01-2003, 09:10 AM
Yeah, as they said, I have the .26 in mine, and the truck works great with it. I'va also taken the diffs apart to put some diff lock fluid in, and you don't have to worry about their durability, they are VERY well made, and heavy duty.

PhishPhan
11-01-2003, 01:39 PM
Hey i am in the middle of breaking in my motor and have some ?,s While idling i really cant see any smoke from the exhast. Is that normal? Also how can i tell if my idle speed is too high?

fuzzy2133
11-01-2003, 04:58 PM
the idle is too high when the truck rolls away under its own power.

fuzzy2133
11-01-2003, 05:08 PM
the stock t-maxx body makes a good temporary with some cutting.

PhishPhan
11-01-2003, 05:38 PM
it wont run away on its own but it will start to run away when i pinch the fuel line to stop it

mugenman1
11-01-2003, 07:55 PM
Broke mine in today and all I can say is AWESOME!!:D :D Went through the truck and used threadlock where needed. Ran about six tanks. No problems at all. Just waiting on a new body. Stars and stripes just look too nice to beat up. Once I get the new body I'll take it to the track to see what it can do. Best part was how easy it was to swap out the receiver. I like to use PCM for my nitro vehicles. SO much easier than the Savage to replace receiver. :)

RDucky02
11-01-2003, 09:45 PM
i also found it easy to play with the electonics, before i even ran it i through in an ofna fail safe, i have 2 of them on my other 2 cars and they work fine, even tell me when my receiver batteries are low. anyway, ill have to rip apart a tmaxx body to see how it does.

on my 2nd gallon of fuel in the truck and the engine is starting to come even more alive as i tune it to the ever changing temps of chicago. gotta like that engine, excellent choice form associated. really torquey and responsive.

fuzzy2133
11-02-2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by PhishPhan
it wont run away on its own but it will start to run away when i pinch the fuel line to stop it

any nitro you do that to will want to go since you are making the engine leaner by blocking the fuel flow.


the truck has nice brakes out of the box I just wanted a little more. I changed to a aluminum servo horn and made a new brake lever that is longer. let ya all know tom. if it was worth my 15 minutes of work.

cbr74
11-02-2003, 01:35 AM
A little tip to improve braking since the stock servo isn't extremely powerful.... back the spring retainer collar on the throttle rod off a little bit. It reduces the load against the servo under braking.

RCRACER2471
11-02-2003, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by cbr74
A little tip to improve braking since the stock servo isn't extremely powerful.... back the spring retainer collar on the throttle rod off a little bit. It reduces the load against the servo under braking.

and to add onto that take the spring off the brake linkage and replace it with fuel tubing to give you better stopping power......

fuzzy2133
11-02-2003, 08:11 PM
that did the trick. it will not lock up the wheels at higher speeds but it can once the truck is going slow enough on the dirt.

rcagp
11-03-2003, 09:14 AM
What spline are the servos ? Is there a match for them ( fut, airtronics, JR,etc )

Ninja Viper
11-03-2003, 01:02 PM
I know somebody posted it already, but can somebody please give me the part # again for the stock unpainted body?

cbr74
11-03-2003, 01:58 PM
Part #25179 MGT Body - Clear, with sticker sheet

Ninja Viper
11-03-2003, 02:39 PM
Im thinking I am going to try and find the new Proline Hummer before I order another stock body. Any suggestions on where I might be able to find one? Tower and Stormer are out and I do not know of too many others that may stock it.

RCRACER2471
11-03-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by rcagp
What spline are the servos ? Is there a match for them ( fut, airtronics, JR,etc )

I believe they work with Futaba......

fuzzy2133
11-03-2003, 08:03 PM
Well looks like some one is going to make working reservoir shock caps.

New Era (http://www.neweramodels.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?session_id=wlatuqmkmxvokgcplmwivevremhptx ai&part_id=1886)

RCRACER2471
11-04-2003, 06:59 PM
thats a little pricy just for resevoirs......

fuzzy2133
11-04-2003, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
thats a little pricy just for resevoirs......

$10 each does not sound too bad. you got some secret you are not sharing with us RCRACER2471? I got a set comming and should have them friday.

eurylokhos
11-04-2003, 08:45 PM
THe nice thing about buying parts from New Era is they are a known quantity. They will be made of the best materials, and will last forever. With some other manufacturers (GPM, and a couple of other manufacturers out of Hong Kong that you see on eBay), it's hit or miss, some parts are great, some are worthless. I'm going to upgrade the shocks on my MGT, but since winter's coming up, and I won't be running it, I"ll wait to see what else comes out. I'd really like a set of those new Pro-Line shocks that they have for the Maxxes, just valved and sprung for the MGT. I bet we'll see those sometime around March.

SVTMaxx
11-04-2003, 10:47 PM
My only complaint with New Era is that I've never ordered anything from them that DIDN'T end up being worse than pulling teeth to get my parts from them. If you call and they say it's in stock, it should NOT take 4-6 WEEKS to get the parts. The ProLine shocks for the Maxx are due out in December.

CHUCKMANDO
11-05-2003, 11:26 AM
Received my truck yesterday, and boy is it. Won't be able to start it due to the rain out here till friday. One thing bothered me so far though, the pins kept falling out of the axles if I wasn't careful, when puting the wheels on. On every other car or truck I own, the pins fit in rather snugly. Has this happened to anyone else. Can't wait to rip.
Tks
Charlie

RDucky02
11-05-2003, 03:41 PM
The pins in my tmaxx also are like those in the MGT. I dont know why they make they like that where they are as tight as they normally are in other kits... I think its because the hex's are there so you dont have to worry about losing the pin anyway. Gotta love the aluminum hex's that are INCLUDED! take care...

about that rain, its been raining here since friday night and has only stopped once for about 4 hours on monday afternoon, yesterday it poured at night. i have an explorer and i was stupid and went and played in it, got water in my intake..... bad news.... we'll see what happens.... gotta go call the insurance company, take care

dave

RCRACER2471
11-05-2003, 07:16 PM
Originally posted by fuzzy2133
$10 each does not sound too bad. you got some secret you are not sharing with us RCRACER2471? I got a set comming and should have them friday.

Ya i can get them cheaper because I live about 5 minutes away from them.... :p

dreedjr
11-06-2003, 02:11 PM
I have a MGT with about 20 tanks through the stock engine. The complete truck including the engine is impressive. A little higher priced, but you get what you pay for. I had the same concern with the brakes. I will make the changes mentioned here and hopefully this thing will stop better.

I clocked my MGT at 32mph, my T-maxx w/sirio .18 at 32mph, a brand new Savage 25 at 33mph, an old savage 21 at 27mph, and a T-maxx .15 at 29mph. My sirio maxx isn't running properly and should be capable of more than 32mph. I recently replaced the clutch bell to a 22 tooth and spur to a 66 tooth. I haven't clocked it yet.

I took the MGT to the track last Sat. then again to a different track last Sun. It really handled the jumps well. It jumped higher and further than a Savage 25 that was there with me. They both land as if they were landing on a cloud. I broke my steering servo saver by overtightening it when I was trying to center the servo for steering. Therefore, I kept snapping makeshift servo horns if the jumps weren't hit just right. I'm sure the stock servo saver would have held up. I did however manage to pull the rear bumper out from the mount. Simple fix-larger screws.

After some serious jumps and high speed rolls, the truck quit moving. The engine stayed running and ran smooth, even upside-down. The drivetrain was locked. I kept switching forward and reverse and it wouldn't free up. Giving it throttle only reved the engine. The thing wouldn't go. After a serious cleaning, I removed the transmission and took apart the case. A severley scarred screw fell out. It had backed out of the forward/reverse clutch housing. The screw was flopping around in the tranny damaging gears until it finally got wedged between some gears locking the thing up. It got mailed off to Associated Tuesday for immediate warranty repairs. I will advise on their turn-around time for this repair when I get it back.

Oh yeah, one more thing. Make sure your drill is spinning in the correct direction before you engage the drill start on the engine. A friend attempted to start mine backwards and broke the pull start spring.

fuzzy2133
11-07-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
Ya i can get them cheaper because I live about 5 minutes away from them.... :p

NICE!

RDucky02
11-07-2003, 06:29 PM
I was at the LHS store today. I just bought a Model 120 electic heli from lite machines and am learning to fly.. FYI... heli's are hard to fly.... more on that in a few.

Anyway, tongiht about 30 mins ago i was running my MGT with my buddies Emaxx and we were having fun ina park with a baseball diamond and a public garden area. So we hit head on with me going top speed... i walked away with a broken bumper, at the end of it, just a little piece of the actually bumper... his emaxx however was totalled.... the bulkheads, differential, bumper, bumper mounting and right a-arms all are broken. the case on the diff is broken so hell have to replace it, but based on that he prolly has a few gears inside the diff gone too.... so ouch... anyway, i was happy that his driving mistake didnt cost me to shelf my MGT for a month till i am able to get parts.... i took some had hits today and drove it harder today than i have yet and the truck took it all in stride... kudos again to AE..

however, my heli, is totalled. i was getting the hang of it when i accidentally gave it to much throttle and it went up, so trying to bring it back down was hard but i rolled to much and went into a tree about 25 feet in the air came crashing down.... one of the main rotors broke... and my chassis cracked.... so ill have to fly it how it is till the aluminum one comes out in about a month. its not too bad, but it is cracked...

have a good night, today was a good R/C day for me.

Dave

QUAKE&SHAKE
11-07-2003, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by dreedjr
A severley scarred screw fell out. It had backed out of the forward/reverse clutch housing. The screw was flopping around in the tranny damaging gears until it finally got wedged between some gears

Aaah They copied Duratrax on this issue I see. RTR ready-to-repair. Didnt think AE would have something in common with Duratrax.

RCRACER2471
11-07-2003, 08:15 PM
They dont it was probly just a coincidence....

nad138
11-08-2003, 12:11 AM
I like how AE designed there radio plate...just 4 screws and it's off. :p Anybody found were the upgraded steering servo saver can be found. Got the gold and red springs and hope to tune this baby at the track.

Grifter
11-08-2003, 02:27 AM
I know this was probably asked about a million times but I cant find it.

I know that T-Maxx Rims and Tires fit, but do the Bodies fit also?

Thanks!

nad138
11-08-2003, 02:49 AM
Back up a couple of pages and you'll see a pic of one with the Tmaxx body.

RCRACER2471
11-08-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by nad138
I like how AE designed there radio plate...just 4 screws and it's off. :p Anybody found were the upgraded steering servo saver can be found. Got the gold and red springs and hope to tune this baby at the track.

I have this one on mine and works a lot better than the stock one.....

http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?part_id=5709

Grifter
11-08-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by nad138
Back up a couple of pages and you'll see a pic of one with the Tmaxx body.

Ok, thanks!

Grifter
11-08-2003, 01:20 PM
One more Questoin: Does the Monster GT come with Dual Exhaust? I know the prototypes had it, but it seems like the production Model doesnt. Just Curious.

Thanks!

fuzzy2133
11-08-2003, 01:24 PM
no it comes with a tuned pipe that only has one stinger and a deflecter that goes out to below the lower a-arm.

cbr74
11-08-2003, 01:26 PM
They did away with the dual outlet pipe in favor of the AE tuned pipe with single outlet.

Grifter
11-08-2003, 02:33 PM
Thought so. Thanks for the quick relpy.

mooplea
11-08-2003, 07:33 PM
anyone know anything about the thunder tiger version ? its cheaper and looks EXACTLY the same to me, even the box is the same...the decals on the windows are the same!..
cant find any information about it tho.

RCSavage
11-08-2003, 08:05 PM
The trucks are the same. Associated will market the Monster Gt in the USA and thunder tiger will market it under their name overseas.

mooplea
11-08-2003, 09:07 PM
thats funny, because in england we get both, side by side in the shop...might go for the TT then

rampbrian
11-09-2003, 02:05 AM
so your telling us that thunder tiger is releasing the same exact truck under their name?

is it exactly the same? exactly?
I dont see how they could do that. some thing would have to be diffrent, and not just logos. I would like to see one.

mooplea
11-09-2003, 08:07 AM
picture here (http://www.modelsportuk.com/v20020702/dynamic/ms_dynam_20020702/list_products.php?ManufacturerID=59&Powered=Nitro&Drive=4WD&ChassisID=253&ChassisName=MTA-4&Scale=1%3A8&ShowCar=1)

its a MGT ! but cheaper... great!..

rampbrian
11-09-2003, 11:53 AM
you are right, I wonder how much L475. is ? in american dollars?
and with 20L off ? like that makes it like 455L
wonder how much that is? any one,
btw, thanks for the link.

eurylokhos
11-09-2003, 01:08 PM
Don't bother if you are in the states. At the current exchange rates, 475 pounds is $790.64. And that's before shipping, and VAT, if they charge you it (they may not since it's not staying in the UK.) The pound has been much stronger than the dollar for as long as I can remember.

mooplea
11-09-2003, 01:54 PM
its nothing to do with the exchange rate, its just the price of ANYTHING over here...
i would buy it from overseas like my b4, but its very heavy and not gonna be worth it...

eurylokhos
11-09-2003, 02:18 PM
As a former UK resident, I realize the high prices over there, I said that about the exchange rate because it looks very attractive if you aren't aware of the value of the currency.

mooplea
11-09-2003, 04:03 PM
see what you mean.. my rc10b4 is from tower, because its $200 MORE over here, $360 or there abouts...
its funny (!) to hear people talk about high prices over there !! everything is half the price of here!!!!!

nad138
11-09-2003, 11:29 PM
Saw a MGT today with a Sirio .27 engine. That engine is a monster, was trying to do wheelies from let-go. The problem was the stock pipe limiting top end speed.

I'm currently going through mine and changed the engine with a Picco .26 and opted to have the pipe mounted longitudinally. Used an on-road header to do this. Now changing the bushings at the bell cranks to flanged bearings. Hopefully, I'll have this thing ready to be broken in by tomorrow. Will post some pics here if anybody is interested.

cbr74
11-10-2003, 03:57 AM
At some point someone said Maxx knuckles were a direct fit for the MGT. No, they're not. They're very close, but the bearing spacing is wrong. When the wheelnuts are tightened down, the hex drive side loads the bearings and creates a lot of rolling resistance and would certainly lead to premature bearing failure not to mention a siginificant loss of performance.

Bottom line.. Maxx knuckles no workie on MGT. :(

Blacktiger
11-10-2003, 08:12 AM
Hey nad138, I would love to see pics of your MGT. Mainly the way you have the pipe mounted. To me it looks as if they had thought of that as an option anyway cause the chassis tray has a cutout for the pipe allready.

nad138
11-10-2003, 02:10 PM
Here's a pic of how I mounted the pipe along the left side guard. I used a .21 on-road header with a J-coupler onto the stock pipe. I've looked into using a high-end exhaust (RB 063/086) and I think it's going to be a tight fit as the battery compartment is in it's way. Also used an HPI back plate for roto-start use.

nad138
11-10-2003, 02:16 PM
Here's another pic of how I did some minor mods to the throttle/brake linkage. Used a ball used in the shock ends and fuel tubing.

eurylokhos
11-10-2003, 10:07 PM
I've found a body that fits beside the stocker. HPI's Bronco fits great. It's the perfect width, and it's long enough that it doesn't look tiny on the chassis. I happened to have an unpainted one sitting around for a copuple months that I was going to do up for my Savage when I have it on display, and when I pulled it out of the bag to mask it, I noticed the similarities to the stock MGT body. THe width measurement is the same as the stocker, and the length is only about an inch shorter. I'll post some pics tomorrow when my digital camera recharges.

It'll be a great runner, it has plenty of protection for the engine head.

fuzzy2133
11-10-2003, 10:18 PM
Hummer H2...

Does not look too bad. I messed up when I was painting, ran out of black when I was backing the blue. so it is darker in the middle than the F&R.

Strike 4
11-10-2003, 10:27 PM
Hmmmmm I know I a going to get this car some time in my life I was going to get the S Maxx because 500$ is too high, I could get another 8 scale. So do you think it is worth the extra dough?

fuzzy2133
11-11-2003, 12:06 AM
Strike 4 - placing 3rd out of the box with only a change of tires against hybrids is pretty impressive. did you see that race you posted about in person? the only thing I am changing at the moment is working piggybacks and 50wt oil.

eurylokhos
11-11-2003, 09:26 AM
Here's the Pics of the Bronco body. This is also a quick paint job, I wanted to do a Pearl blue, but I ran out on my last body, and I was too lazy to buy more!

http://www.bigpuppy.net/bronco.jpg

http://www.bigpuppy.net/bronco2.jpg

rampbrian
11-12-2003, 07:38 PM
hey that bronco boddy looks sweet!
I would of painted it all red, but that looks killer any how,

dang, I want one more than ever now, cause, I always liked the way that bronco boddy looks. nice stuff,
does it wheely?

eurylokhos
11-12-2003, 07:43 PM
Thansk, yeah, it'll wheelie, I've got a Force .26 in it, but I'm thinking about buying a wasp .26 tomorrow for it to match the Picco in my Savage. The power is addictive, so who knows.

rampbrian
11-13-2003, 08:13 AM
im not trying to jump ship here, but have you seen the cen genisis, ? do you think it will be larger than the mgt?

im glad the mgt does wheelys, did you ever get it to do them with the stock .21 thunder tiger engine? I have the same thunder tiger .21 in my schumacher nitro fusion, it seems like its a good midrange and top end engine, but that may be because of the tuned pipe set up on it.

if I was you id swap in the engine from the savage for some testing before I went ahead and droped more cash for a new one. even tho more is better, I know Im not made of money:D altho it does grow on trees = its made of paper.

o yeah, I have the ofna mbx buggy that came with the .25 engine. so far ive got more than 4 gallons on it and its still running good. how much better is the force .26 from the force .25? im running maxy fuel 25% nitro, and loving it, what % do you run?

eurylokhos
11-13-2003, 10:33 AM
Yeah, I've seen the pics of the Genesis. It looks nice, and pretty huge. As for whether it's bigger than the MGT, I don't know, but it looks like it is. I'm going to take a look at it when it comes out, maybe I'll end up buying one of those too, although who knows how my wife will feel about that :D

On the engines, I never ran the stock engine. I sold my Ofna Ultra MBX pro to finance the MGT, and I sold it with the TTR .21, and put the MBX stock Force 26 in the MGT. The Force is still pretty new, barely broken in, and it's making decent power, but it's definitely not up to it's full potential yet. I thought about trying the engine out of the Savage, but that's where I run into the big problem with the Savage. It's such a pain to work on, I don't really want to go through the trouble of pulling it apart to get the engine out and try it in the MGT. I'm running Monster Horsepower 20% in all my engines, and it runs great. I'm still deciding, I'm probably not going to buy a Wasp for a while, just because winter is almost here, and I won't be running the trucks much at all.

fuzzy2133
11-16-2003, 03:08 PM
I managed to bend the top cooling fin some time between yesterday and today. the roll bar is not bent up at all, good quality material however it is flexing enough to allow damage to the cooling head.

Any one got ideas for stronger roll bar?

RCRACER2471
11-16-2003, 08:59 PM
making your own out of steel wouldnt be a bad idea....

fuzzy2133
11-16-2003, 09:55 PM
I am suprised that no parts broke. I knew I hit hard this just proves that it was far worse. the nice thing is it has had no noticeable effect on the engine temp. and who said TT is not that great.

RCRACER2471
11-17-2003, 02:55 PM
TT is great. Mine performs very well. I did end up breaking a part already because I hit a telephone pole at full speed. I just got a new lower arm from Stormer Hobbies after searching for a place that has them in stock. But I still love my truck:)

Lordkett
11-18-2003, 08:46 AM
TPhalen,

Is there a plan to release an upgrade engine for the Monster GT? I don't mean a .25 or .27, but a more powerful .21. I see that Thuder Tiger makes several .21 engines, even one that can max out at 38,000 rpm with 2.4 bhp. I was just looking for a good and reliable option if I decide to upgrade.

I must also say that I love my MGT, it is by far my most fun rc vehicle.

dragracer28
11-18-2003, 10:00 PM
New Era Models (www.neweramodels.com) has a new larger roll bar. It covers from the front shock tower to about where the stock one is.

fuzzy2133
11-19-2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by dragracer28
New Era Models (www.neweramodels.com) has a new larger roll bar. It covers from the front shock tower to about where the stock one is.

that is what I was thinking would work perfectly.

RCRACER2471
11-19-2003, 10:20 PM
Speaking of roll ball my is starting to give out. Every time i have a bad crash it start to bend one way a little bit and I have to bend it back. I see a new era roll bar on my Christmas list....:)

Techspert
11-21-2003, 06:00 PM
The MGT is an AWESOME handling truck! I just broke mine in today and rough terrain is NO PROBLEM.
Are the stock tires and rims heavier than BIG JOE tires and rims. I want to lighten this baby up a little.

cbr74
11-21-2003, 07:33 PM
They are very close in weight, but the Big Joes are smaller in diameter and so will have less rotational inertia (better acceleration)

fuzzy2133
11-21-2003, 09:03 PM
Big Joes are also wider and this makes the stock servo move a little slower.

rcagp
11-22-2003, 10:41 AM
Should I cut a hole in the windshield to let more airflow to the engine ? I really hate to cut up the flag body.

eurylokhos
11-22-2003, 11:52 AM
Come on man, don't use the Flag body! When you kill it, you're going to hate yourself, go buy a body to run, and keep the flag for when it sits on your shelf.

As for holes, it depends on the season. If it's cold out, don't have any holes. I"m in NH, and the bodies I run in the winter are as closed as possible, to retain the heat. But in the summer, when it's 70 +, I have a hole in the windshield, and one in the side window. (of course it depends on the body). Between 70 and 40, I'll run whatever, and just adjust the needles and glow plugs for heat.

rcagp
11-22-2003, 02:55 PM
Do you think the flag body will be worth money later ? I was thinking about getting the Bronco body above or maybe Hummer H2.

RCRACER2471
11-22-2003, 05:01 PM
You cant get the flag body. Its limted edition. It only comes with the first 2000 MGT kits. After that there gone. I believe you can still buy the flag for it though....

RCRACER2471
11-22-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by eurylokhos
As for holes, it depends on the season. If it's cold out, don't have any holes. I"m in NH, and the bodies I run in the winter are as closed as possible, to retain the heat.

Hey eurylokhos,

What part of NH do you live in?? Im in Nashua....:)

eurylokhos
11-22-2003, 09:29 PM
I live in Strafford, work in Portsmouth. Do you guys have any good bashing sites down there? Like construction sites, sandpits, or anything? I've got some good sandpits, but no one around to drive with, so I always keep 2 RCs around so I can get my friends to drive. You should see a total newbie when I hand them the transmitter to my Picco .26 powered Savage, or my MGT!

RCRACER2471
11-23-2003, 08:03 PM
I found a HUGE construction site that ive not tried out yet but will soon. Its perfect. Has huge mounds of dirt for some monster truck climbing and some flat areas that are some perfect for some off road racing. Theres even cliffs you can go off and land onto dirt or gaps that you clear. A risky place to drive your truck but still is a lot fun. Im still practicing my jumping with this big truck but im hoping I'll be able to try it out next weekend....:D

Boostedbruiser
11-25-2003, 12:21 AM
has anyone had any problems with the ring and pinion on these trucks? or any of the gears? I read on another post that the ring and pinions are weak.

I'm just curious thanks

fuzzy2133
11-25-2003, 09:36 PM
the people that have put out law engines in will be able to tell you another couple months. so far I have not heard any thing.

SVTMaxx
11-26-2003, 01:13 PM
I believe there were some gears that were defective, tho I can't remember which ones. Associated has made a running production change and all new MGTs will come with the new gears. Call Associated up and see if they will send you the new version of the gears. There's more details on Maxxtraxx if you are a member there.

RCFAN
11-26-2003, 07:23 PM
what glow plugs are you all running in the stock engine wit 20 %

RDucky02
11-27-2003, 10:36 PM
im running os 8 plugs in chiacgo weather

BCat125
11-28-2003, 10:48 AM
The MC-59 plugs work good in it

RCRACER2471
11-29-2003, 09:40 PM
I still currently using the stock one that first came with it but will be using the O.S. 8 plug

After a few days of running I ran into a few problems. I lost the screw that holds the cvds on. Im guessing they either forgot to threadlock that one or didnt put enough on. Also I popped a few shock caps and lost some shock oil from some pretty big jumping. Anyone know what the stock oil wt is for the truck?

RCFAN
11-29-2003, 10:40 PM
i have a wasp 26 on order for my savage but now i'm not so sure i'm going to put that in the savage.i might try it in the gt the only thing is it's cold here and i dont want to break it in when it's cold.

fuzzy2133
11-29-2003, 11:29 PM
RCRACER2471 - 40wt oil is stock.

RCRACER2471
11-30-2003, 11:26 AM
thanx fuzzy...

raderrustler
11-30-2003, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by BCat125
The MC-59 plugs work good in it

These will work as they are a hot plug and will let it fire up quickly but are mainly for small block applications, the os 8 will work well and last longer.
Randy

RCRACER2471
11-30-2003, 05:20 PM
I lost that screw to the cvds that connects to the front differential. I put in a screw from a traxxas vehicle while I try to find the part # of the screw and find it in stock. Still no luck. Anyone know the part # so I can order it????

1 Bad STi
12-01-2003, 10:38 AM
Does anyone know the specs for the stock AE .21, hp? rpm? Thanks.

cbr74
12-01-2003, 11:15 AM
I lost that screw to the cvds that connects to the front differential. I put in a screw from a traxxas vehicle while I try to find the part # of the screw and find it in stock. Still no luck. Anyone know the part # so I can order it????

The pin isn't yet available as a seperate part. It comes with the hub itself (25053). I lost that very same pin, called AE and they're sending me two replacements at no charge. My advice is contact AE and they'll make it right by you.

BCat125
12-01-2003, 03:13 PM
Does anyone know the specs for the stock AE .21, hp? rpm? Thanks.

Im pretty sure that i read on the associated website that the AE .21 runs at 2.1 HP but im not sure of the RPM.

RCRACER2471
12-01-2003, 03:18 PM
Thanks for the help cbr74. I just called them and there sending me free replacements like you said. Supposedly they werent de-greased after the screw was made causing the pin to fall out even though they were thread locked. Ill be sure that they stay in for good this time....

BCat125
12-02-2003, 04:00 PM
Well im glad to say that i finnaly got mine last night and it looks really sweet. Too bad it has been snowing all day here and if the weather keeps up like this than it will be a long time until i get to drive it.:mad:

RCRACER2471
12-02-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by BCat125
Well im glad to say that i finnaly got mine last night and it looks really sweet. Too bad it has been snowing all day here and if the weather keeps up like this than it will be a long time until i get to drive it.:mad:

Thats what ive been waiting for is the snow. Just a little more and I can make a big track in my back yard with snow. Cant wait!!!:p

Jamie
12-03-2003, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
I lost that screw to the cvds that connects to the front differential. I put in a screw from a traxxas vehicle while I try to find the part # of the screw and find it in stock. Still no luck. Anyone know the part # so I can order it????

Some people have reported that the drive cup retaining screws from a Savage are a very close match.

BCat125
12-03-2003, 03:02 PM
Thats what ive been waiting for is the snow. Just a little more and I can make a big track in my back yard with snow. Cant wait!!!

I dont have a problem with the winter or the snow. The thing that am dissapointed about is that i will have to wait for a warm day and a day with clear skies to break in the engine. i need to break it in this winter so i can drive it at monster truck shows. I do have a fully broken in picco 26 but that goes in my ofna buggy which i will use at the mt shows also.

RCRACER2471
12-03-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by Jamie
Some people have reported that the drive cup retaining screws from a Savage are a very close match.

The screws from the Savage are close but not close enough. There are 2.0mm thread, i needed a 2.5mm. Its enough to make a diffrence of where it wont work.

cbr74
12-05-2003, 11:32 AM
Got my replacement screw pins from AE yesterday. My MGT is 4WD again, woo hoo.

I removed all the screw pins, thoroughly cleaned them, and re-installed with High Strength red threadlocker. Oughta be about bullet proof now.

RCRACER2471
12-05-2003, 08:03 PM
I got mine a few days ago. They shipped it out pretty quick. Im surprised I got mine before you considering your in CA and im in NH. Cant wait to use my truck tomorrow with 4wd again in a big snow storm!:D

cbr74
12-05-2003, 08:10 PM
Today... my shims arrived, now I can install the RPM bearing carriers.

microrcdude
12-06-2003, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
I got mine a few days ago. They shipped it out pretty quick. Im surprised I got mine before you considering your in CA and im in NH. Cant wait to use my truck tomorrow with 4wd again in a big snow storm!:D
sooo.......how is it???

RCRACER2471
12-06-2003, 08:57 PM
Great. Glad to have 4wd again because the screws they put in the first few shipments of Monster GT's were defective. Used in the snow and its crazy. I can do donuts easily and still have plenty of traction and control. Great all around truck no matter what season of the year it is...:)

Toycar
12-08-2003, 04:21 AM
GH has larger cooling head for the stock mgt .21 engine. I will post a pic tomorrow. They have other Al upgrades arriving this week. Quality 1st class machined billet Al parts.

RCRACER2471
12-08-2003, 03:08 PM
whats their website? Theres nothing on Tower yet from them for MGT parts....

MikeWz
12-08-2003, 11:58 PM
Guys, just ordered me one of these big guys. I've seen my friend bash his and it just keeps going. Just wondering what the overall consensus is. Anything need to be changed or modded? Any mods? I've been racing for a few years now but never had anything for AE (sorry guys, I'm a Losi fan) but I saw this and had to have it :D

cbr74
12-09-2003, 12:14 AM
High Strength red threadlocking compound on all CV set screws and drive pins.

Put a piece of fuel tubing in place of the spring on the brakes.

get some 5mm steel nylon insert locknuts and stack them onto the stock wheelnuts. (keeps wheels from loosening)

That's about all I can think of.

MikeWz
12-09-2003, 09:35 AM
Thanks cbr. As for the nylon nuts, I already have some nut locks so I'll just throw those on.

Hey, anybody know when that sexy milled blue chassis going to be available. I have GOT to get me one of those! :D

RCRACER2471
12-09-2003, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
. Anything need to be changed or modded? Any mods? I've been racing for a few years now but never had anything for AE (sorry guys, I'm a Losi fan) but I saw this and had to have it :D

Well look who it is? :p The first thing I would change right away is the roll bar which really shouldnt even be called that considering it doesnt really protect anything. I would look into the New Era one: http://www.neweramodels.com/cgi-bin/item.cgi?session_id=afjvtuaqkfgjrqrpxxhcgtalqvxaij pi&part_id=1894
Its way better than the stock one. Mine kept bending and I had to re bend it. Then I finally gave up and got a roll bar.

Another thing you might want to think about doing is changing the radio if you have a chance. It works pretty good but just feels kinda cheap. Other than that you should be set to go....

RCRACER2471
12-09-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
Thanks cbr. As for the nylon nuts, I already have some nut locks so I'll just throw those on.

Hey, anybody know when that sexy milled blue chassis going to be available. I have GOT to get me one of those! :D

They should be arriving in Mid Dec at Tower for $90.

MikeWz
12-09-2003, 05:58 PM
Sweet deal. Definatly going to pick up one of those bad boys.

Toycar
12-09-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by RCRACER2471
whats their website? Theres nothing on Tower yet from them for MGT parts....

It's not available as of yet. It's sitting in their warehouse. I imagine it needs packaging. www.ghhobby.com

RCRACER2471
12-09-2003, 08:57 PM
I am now aware of that considering they have no product listings for the truck as of right now....

fuzzy2133
12-09-2003, 09:21 PM
the new era rol bar is a very nice addition to my MGT. the only probablem it causes is spur gear changes, it blocks a good portion of the spur gear making changes a little more longer.

MikeWz
12-09-2003, 09:32 PM
That's okay, I wasn't planing on getting the roll bar anyway. It just adds extra weight. From what I hear the truck is jacked anyway so there's no worry of breaking parts. I'll just put zip-ties on the cooling head so it won't get scratched.
I'm really hoping that AE comes out with a whole bunch of cool blue stuff. That chassis looks hot and it's milled so it'll be a bit lighter. They also have the Ti turnbuckles in blue but hopefully they'll get some more eye candy too. I can't wait to get my truck in the mail
:D

Grifter
12-10-2003, 01:11 PM
Are there any videos of the MGT yet?

Thanks.

RCRACER2471
12-10-2003, 02:49 PM
http://www.monstergt.com/videos.html

cbr74
12-10-2003, 02:53 PM
In case anybody wants to put RPM T-Maxx steering knuckles on their MGT like I did... here's what you need:

TRX 4933 X2
TRX 4934 X2
ASC 7363 X2

You have to use the Traxxas pivotball retainers and put the AE shims in between the bearings. (7 per axle)

MikeWz
12-10-2003, 03:01 PM
Man, that video just makes it harder for me to wait for it to come in the mail :(

cbr74
12-10-2003, 03:05 PM
W i l d Hobbies has a video with their review of the MGT.

MikeWz
12-10-2003, 08:00 PM
Yeah I heard about that vid but I couldn't find it. If anybody could post up a link that'd be great.

fuzzy2133
12-10-2003, 11:29 PM
here is the wild hobbies vid.

http://www.monstergtforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6

MikeWz
12-11-2003, 03:09 PM
Man, this thing looks sick. Drop in the .27 and the fantom .21 and it'll be insane...and sound amazing too

fuzzy2133
12-11-2003, 09:44 PM
I am very close to taking the siro .27 out of my mutant maxx and putting it into the mgt. if there is a clear forecast for this weekend I most likely will. let ya know if I do.

MikeWz
12-12-2003, 01:27 AM
How is that sirio.
Well...I take that back. Doesn't matter how amazing it is, I don't have the $11386541658 to buy one :D

RCRACER2471
12-12-2003, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
How is that sirio.
Well...I take that back. Doesn't matter how amazing it is, I don't have the $11386541658 to buy one :D

I think $348 is the price your looking for....:)

fuzzy2133
12-12-2003, 10:10 PM
it runs about $350, I got it for my mutant maxx after I over rev'ed a .26 wasp from a melted clutch. I had never fired it up, so now I can't wait to see what it will do with stock gearing and tires. :D

cbr74
12-12-2003, 10:55 PM
I've never been shy about spending money on my R/C toys.. but $350 for an engine is just nuts to me.

fuzzy2133
12-12-2003, 11:11 PM
hopefully it will be a good tree fifty spent to hop up the MGT. turbo plug insert included and the race and pro piston and sleeve fit the pull start version, a cheaper way to get more power if you feel the need for more speed.

MikeWz
12-13-2003, 08:52 AM
I heard that the standard version has more low end punch and the pro version has more high end punch. Which one did you get?

fuzzy2133
12-13-2003, 03:09 PM
I got the standard version it is the only one with a pull start. I am getting ready to go and see what this thing can do.

RCRACER2471
12-13-2003, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by cbr74
I've never been shy about spending money on my R/C toys.. but $350 for an engine is just nuts to me.

Amen to that. I feel the same way. I wouldnt pay that much for an engine. Id just buy a Savage SS to add to my collection or get some performance accesories......:p

MikeWz
12-13-2003, 05:41 PM
Yeah man, true dat. That's why I'm going to wait for the Fantom .27 to see what kind of reviews she gets. If they're not too hot I'll go with a Picco or something. I mean...I have to wait anyway cause I just spent all my extra money on the truck. Hopefully over the winter break I'll be able to work at the LHS (they said I probably would be able to) so that way I can get money AND discount. w00t w00t :D

RCRACER2471
12-13-2003, 06:18 PM
Discounts are cool. Ive had them since March.:D The only problem is that im spending a lot more money than I should be becuase of all the great deals. I can get a Ofna Picco .26 for $120. Can you believe that?

MikeWz
12-13-2003, 08:46 PM
man that's a pretty hot deal. Aren't they like about $200? If I get in there I'd probably look for a discount on the G4 pro first, but than follow up on anything blue that fits the monster GT :D

fuzzy2133
12-13-2003, 08:55 PM
OMG the .27 is freeking sweet! the stock gearing does not do the engine justice. I got a 16/49 gear combo on and ready for next run. you all think it will be enough?

MikeWz
12-13-2003, 11:23 PM
Maybe get a smaller spur if at all possible. Will lower the ratio a bit and give you some more top-end. I'm going to assume that's what you're looking for?

BCat125
12-14-2003, 09:53 AM
Get the 46 tooth spur gear and modify the gear holder to put an 18 tooth clutch bell in.

MikeWz
12-16-2003, 01:56 AM
Guys, do you any of you have pics of your MGT? I'm trying to get a bunch of pictures together for a slide show so if you could post pictures of your truck that'd be hot!

Techspert
12-16-2003, 03:50 AM
Originally posted by MikeWz
Yeah man, true dat. That's why I'm going to wait for the Fantom .27 to see what kind of reviews she gets. If they're not too hot I'll go with a Picco or something. I mean...I have to wait anyway cause I just spent all my extra money on the truck. Hopefully over the winter break I'll be able to work at the LHS (they said I probably would be able to) so that way I can get money AND discount. w00t w00t :D

Where can I find more info on this Fantom .27?

Gravedigger
12-16-2003, 09:17 AM
Hi guys, i'm planning to get myself the this friggin huge truck, but i have seen the vids and some comments, it seems the engine is really not very impressive....well, atleast to me that is.

Is it possible to fit maybe like a .50 engine into this baby or maybe the ek4's .70 without any modifications? Or can someone recommend a really more powerful engine for this truck?

I would be ordering this car very very soon so i hope someone can help me out here....

Thanks

MikeWz
12-16-2003, 05:07 PM
Techspert-Fantom has not released the engine yet. It is still in its testing phase. You can check out www.fantomracing.com for updates.

RCRACER2471
12-16-2003, 07:17 PM
Originally posted by Gravedigger
Is it possible to fit maybe like a .50 engine into this baby or maybe the ek4's .70 without any modifications? Or can someone recommend a really more powerful engine for this truck?

Thanks

Depends on how much you want to spend. Two nice engines for the price your getting is the

Wasp .26- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEKX1&P=7
Picco .26- http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXESC2&P=7

If you $300+ and you want the best out of the best then id go for this one:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEPH7&P=7

For some reason they have the wrong picture on there. Heres what it looks like

fuzzy2133
12-16-2003, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
Guys, do you any of you have pics of your MGT? I'm trying to get a bunch of pictures together for a slide show so if you could post pictures of your truck that'd be hot!

what type of pics do you want?

MikeWz
12-17-2003, 01:08 AM
Any pictures really. Just put it in the terrain it belongs in, maybe a pic or two of her being used in the mud or something along those lines. I've seen a few on these boars already but nothing I really had in mind. All indoor stuff :(

RCRACER2471
12-17-2003, 03:00 PM
I just started taking pics after it started snowing from a few weeks ago. So mine wouldnt be dirty. They either be in the snow or indoor....

MikeWz
12-18-2003, 09:02 PM
Snow's just fine. That's where she's meant to be :D
Just got mine in the mail yesterday and gave her the first run today. I must say I am quite impressed. The layout of this truck is excellent. Everything is very easy to get too. The TT .21 seems to be a great engine. Even at the very rich settings it's got some decent pick up. It's also very easy to start. The factory body is also very nice. Not painted but rather died and the design is quite nice (I love the little flag:D). Can't wait to get it totally broken in a see what this baby can do. I plan on dropping Fantom's .21 single chamber pipe in too. Get some more torque, better runs times and some more low-end grunt. Can't wait. I have not mud or snow by me right now but as soon as I get her out for a REAL run I'll post up some shots! This is my first experience with AE products and I'm quite impressed.

rampbrian
12-19-2003, 08:46 AM
I just got one too, I cant play till x mas but the truck looked awesome at superior hobby shop, the first time I ever saw one, I had to get it. its realley smooth drive train, nice all over.

MikeWz
12-19-2003, 02:57 PM
Well I finished my 4 tanks today. The engine hasn't been tuned for power but I can see this TTR .21 has some pretty good potential. Looks much faster in person than it does in the vids. The drive train is super smooth and the 2-speed is amazingly smooth. The one on my maxx pretty much slammed into second gear (when it shifted) and this one you can barely tell when it does shift. I can't wait to get it fired up again on Monday and try to find me some dirt to get her tuned on. I figure 3 tanks in one day during the break in period is enough.

RCRACER2471
12-19-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
Snow's just fine. That's where she's meant to be :D
Just got mine in the mail yesterday and gave her the first run today. I must say I am quite impressed. The layout of this truck is excellent. Everything is very easy to get too. The TT .21 seems to be a great engine. Even at the very rich settings it's got some decent pick up. It's also very easy to start. The factory body is also very nice. Not painted but rather died and the design is quite nice (I love the little flag:D). Can't wait to get it totally broken in a see what this baby can do. I plan on dropping Fantom's .21 single chamber pipe in too. Get some more torque, better runs times and some more low-end grunt. Can't wait. I have not mud or snow by me right now but as soon as I get her out for a REAL run I'll post up some shots! This is my first experience with AE products and I'm quite impressed.

Let me know when you plan putting the Fantom in there. Id be curious to see how much power it would put out for such a big truck. BTW did you get the flag body or tribal flames?

MikeWz
12-20-2003, 12:41 AM
Tribal flames :( . They only made 100 of the flag bodies. But hey...It's all good. I'm going to wind up painting my own body anyway. Just so I don't have to have the same scheme as everybody else. I mean, the blue tribal body is really nice, but EVERYBODY that has an MGT has that now.
As for the Fantom, It's not going to be out untill the spring time, but as soon as I get one I'll definatly let you know. Do you have any of those snow pictures?

BCat125
12-20-2003, 10:58 AM
I got the tribal flame body also. It looks pretty good on the truck but i like the flag body better.

By the way they made 2000 originally.

RCRACER2471
12-20-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
Tribal flames :( . They only made 100 of the flag bodies. But hey...It's all good. I'm going to wind up painting my own body anyway. Just so I don't have to have the same scheme as everybody else. I mean, the blue tribal body is really nice, but EVERYBODY that has an MGT has that now.
As for the Fantom, It's not going to be out untill the spring time, but as soon as I get one I'll definatly let you know. Do you have any of those snow pictures?

Im working on those pics. You can find some pics at www.monstergt.com in the meantime while I work on mine. They some pretty good ones there. You should try putting standard Tmaxx tires on. It looks like a huge stadium truck raised a couple of inches......:D

RCRACER2471
12-20-2003, 08:29 PM
I just got the idea of running dual tanks on the truck because of the extra room on the chassis. Any one else think of this. It would give longer run times obviosly and less times that you would have to fill it up....How would the fuel route from one tank to another and then to the engine? Anyone know?

fuzzy2133
12-20-2003, 08:53 PM
you take the line to the carb off the first tank and move it to the cap of the second tank. then use the second tanks fuel out put and have that one go to the carb.

MikeWz
12-20-2003, 08:53 PM
Bcat-My mistake. BTW...I think you meant 200. That's what all my LHS said they found on their site
RCRACER-I was thinking dual tanks too. I'm going to use a Maxx tank as my second tank. I'm going to put that one closest to the engine and use the MGT tank farther forward. Still not sure how to connect them but I'll send you some pics when I've got it figured out.
I just did the Engine work job from the latest issue of RCCA on the .21 and will let you know how it works out on Monday. Unfortunatly I won't have time to run it this weekend.

RCRACER2471
12-20-2003, 08:58 PM
Thanks for the help Fuzzy im going to try that out...

fuzzy2133
12-20-2003, 09:14 PM
I would like to see pics of what the truck looks like with dual tanks on. also keep in mind that the truck might need to be balance to allow level flight with the weight of a second tank.

MikeWz
12-20-2003, 09:39 PM
It won't really make much of a difference with the layout that I have in mind. Especially with the bigger tank up front. That'll be the one that'll empty out first. I want the larger tank to fuel the smaller one. I'm going to have the exhaust flow directly into the second one (so as to push the fuel into the maxx tank) and the maxx tank being the smaller one won't require as much pressure to push the fuel into the engine, especially with the shortened length of tubing.

rampbrian
12-21-2003, 04:30 AM
what kind of speed reduction do we see if we got maxx size tires and put them on the mgt?
im thinking it would be the same as going down to a 13 tooth clutch bell?

my mgt is hiding in the closet till x mas, its verry stressful knowing its there and I cant work on it.

I was also worried for a minute that it diddnt have a sg shaft on the engine, I now know the advantages of the sg shaft and will never go back to threaded cranks,

does any one know the power output and rpm of the thunder tiger engine thats stock on the mgt?
im mostly intrested in the rpm they claim so I can base my decision on a new power plant for it come spring time.

the xtm 24/7 and dynamite .26 make peak power at 30,000 rpm. but my onfa force .25 revs up to 38,000 rpm meaning more top speed could be obtained from the force engine wtih the same gearing?

does this make sense to you?

BCat125
12-21-2003, 10:52 AM
Bcat-My mistake. BTW...I think you meant 200. That's what all my LHS said they found on their site

Second frequently asked question
http://rc10.com/racerhub/mgt_talk/mgt_talk.htm

Heres a picture of a monster gt with 2 fuel tanks
http://www.ultimaterc.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=22&pos=10

MikeWz
12-21-2003, 12:51 PM
Bcat-Sorry, guess the guy at the LSH miss read it.
That picture is somewhat like what I plan on doing, however I'm going to use a Maxx tank cause it's smaller which = less weight and lower engine temps (less fuel to burn)
Ramp-The lower the RPMs where an engine hits max power that means the lower the RPMs where it's going to hit max torque (in most engines) which means that it's going to have more bottom end. To get the same pull on the low end with your ofna you'll have to gear it higher.

fuzzy2133
12-21-2003, 01:33 PM
MikeWz - if you have your engine tuned right you can run a gallon in one day and not have any temps that are too high.

MikeWz
12-21-2003, 02:06 PM
Well I got her tuned good now. She runs great with the "porting" job from the article in RCCA. Definatly a noticeable differene. Won't be anything near what you'll get from Maverick but for free (as long as you do it right :D) it's definatly worth it.

RCRACER2471
12-21-2003, 02:22 PM
I was thinking about doing the porting to see if it would make a difference which I know it would but I said to myself Its just better to get the Wasp .26 come spring time when its good weather to break in. So Ill be keeping the stock motor throughout the winter and put the big block in come spring time....

MikeWz
12-21-2003, 03:51 PM
RACER-While you're keeping the engine why don't you just port it? It doesn't really take much time and hey, It's free. Why not! It definatly gives a good performance increase, however the first thing I noticed afterwards was how off my needles were. They were crazy rich for the new porting. Once I got it set it she ran amazing.

CK9887
12-21-2003, 09:41 PM
Hey guys,
I just got a MGT about 3 weeks ago and its impressive but i think it has a few downsides too (just like any truck).

First off- My steering servo was shot after hitting a wall at about 5 mph, so i went to my LHS only to hear that i will need a JR 8550, lol, $115. There goes my Xmas shopping money.
The 8550 has 188oz of torque and is impressive but unless you have lots of extra cash then dont waste the money.

The little CVD pin coming from the center diff also came out, so now all i have is FWD.

The radio Box is way too tight.

The shock reservoirs are also a little annoying, its impposible to get on any of the shock adjusters with those stupid things in the way.

I like the truck overall , its almost identical in speed next to my friends Savage 25, i think i will try to port it and see what happens.

What tools do you need, just a dremel..?

RCRACER2471
12-22-2003, 05:56 PM
Originally posted by MikeWz
RACER-While you're keeping the engine why don't you just port it? It doesn't really take much time and hey, It's free. Why not! It definatly gives a good performance increase, however the first thing I noticed afterwards was how off my needles were. They were crazy rich for the new porting. Once I got it set it she ran amazing.

It would be nice if I could port it but im just afraid Ill screw it up and there goes my engine. It would be a good excuse to get a Wasp .26 but Id rather not take my chances....:)

CK9887
12-22-2003, 07:11 PM
I got the replacement pin today at my LHS for the CVD outdrive since mine came off and i onyl had FWD. The pins though are shorter than the original and the dont go all the way thru the blue CVD outdrive? They are too short.
What do i do?

CK9887
12-22-2003, 07:12 PM
The parts number match up from the manual, so its the right part.

CHUCKMANDO
12-22-2003, 11:21 PM
Just a reminder, locktite those pins and anything other screws going into metal. On a good note, I replaced the stock brake with the Vertigo brake. I found it to be of excellent quality. I noticed no fade in performance. Quicker stopping and very consistant. Overall I am very pleased with the brake.

CK9887
12-23-2003, 10:12 AM
The replacement pins i bought are shorter than the original but they are the right part #????

cbr74
12-23-2003, 11:26 AM
The pins are ~14mm. The threaded portion will sit well below the edge of the outdrive, the pin portion should be about flush.

CK9887
12-23-2003, 05:15 PM
ok, the pins are 14mm but they arent even close to being flush with the outdrive???

cbr74
12-23-2003, 05:26 PM
Are you sure it's the outdrive pin you're missing and not the CVD pin? The outdrive cup is 14mm where it attaches to the transmission. Where the CVD attaches is 18.75mm and uses an entirely different pin.

CK9887
12-23-2003, 05:31 PM
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=25115&FVPROFIL=++

This is what i have.

CK9887
12-23-2003, 05:32 PM
I think this is what i need?

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFUB7&P=M

cbr74
12-23-2003, 05:52 PM
OK, now I see... had me confused because I thought you were missing the output cup screw pin:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFUB5&P=Z

but apparently you're missing the CVA pin:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFUB7&P=M

So, yes you need ASC 25055.

On a sidenote... when my screw pin fell out and I had only RWD... I called AE and they sent me two replacements at no charge.
Just a thought.

CK9887
12-23-2003, 05:57 PM
I will give them a call,
Where do the pins go that i have? (first link) Im Just wondering??



Thanks for the help

cbr74
12-23-2003, 06:01 PM
The parts you have are for the differential to wheel CV's which use a shorter pin than the transmission to diff CV's.

CK9887
12-23-2003, 06:06 PM
ok,


Thanks

MikeWz
12-23-2003, 07:19 PM
CK-I'm surprised that you shot your servo hitting a wall that slow. Were you really going that slow ;) ? The stock servo is slow as molasses and kinda weak but I didn't know it was THAT weak. As for porting, all you need is a dremel with a tapered conical bit, a really fin grit drum bit and a rubber polishing bit w/polishing fluid.

RCRACER-Psh, it's easy. Unless you have parkinson's I'm 99.9% sure you won't mess it up. Just keep the speed on the dremel as low as you can get it and don't push too hard and you're set. If you don't have any Marvel Mystery oil and WD40 you'll want to look into that too. Give it a shot. It's worth it. If you have any friends with the Savage 25SS you'll be able to take em out now. Not only is size but in speed :D

RCRACER2471
12-24-2003, 11:51 AM
MikeWz- Ill give it a try but if I mess up im blaming it on you!!!:D

cbr74
12-24-2003, 01:26 PM
I set out to improve the steering. The RX trick made a big improvement to servo performance, but the stock steering still seemed terribly slow. Not wanting to shell out for a 94358Z until after Christmas... I looked for ways to improve the stock set-up using what I had available.

First up... the plastic bushings on the bellcranks had to go. They are an odd design... kind of an inverted flange. Nonetheless, their essential dimensions are a standard size... 5X10X4. That just so happens to be T-Maxx clutchbell bearing size which meant a quick search of the pitbox turned up 4 shielded bearings of just that size.

Next.. to solve the issue of the stock bushings being 6mm in total height yet the bearings are only 4mm... for the inside of the bellcrank, this was a non issue, but for the outside... it left 1mm of slack to be dealt with. Well, since I was already dealing with T-Maxx clutch parts... the solution presented itself right away.
A pack of TRX 1985 fiber washers 5X8X.5mm.
2 went on each bellcrank post under the bellcranks and two more on top.

While I had it all apart I noticed there was a lot of friction on the ball links in the stock drag link. I solved this by making my own drag link using two Traxxas rod ends and an ancient stubby tie rod from an RC10GT. I also experimented and found the friction could be eliminated from the stock drag link by simply replacing the stock ball inserts with Traxxas ones.

Making my own drag link allowed me to set up the servo saver (Kimbrough) so it was exactly parallel with the bellcrank while at center. This allows equal "swing" in both directions.

When I installed the newly fabricated drag link, I used some Racer's Edge cone washers to help level the drag link for optimum efficiency.

The result... although I haven't driven it with these mods, just turning the wheels back and forth shows a noticeable improvement in steering responsiveness and speed.

And some pics:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312236365375708097358.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Dec/200312236501865550746145.jpg

I know the purple doesn't exactly go with the blue of the rest of the truck, but hey.. I used what I had.

RCRACER2471
12-24-2003, 07:46 PM
Looks like an easy modification. I might try that out myself. I too dont feel like spending $100 for a high torque servo. Thanks for the tip....:)

cbr74
12-24-2003, 07:58 PM
One thing worth noting tha a member from another board pointed out to me. When I leveled the drag link, it raised the height of the screw head to the point it's no longer being shielded by the servo guard. This creates potential for impact damage.

I could remove the cone washer and stack it on the other end of the drag link, but that would give more leverage against the bellcrank, creating the potential for tweaking it under load.

So now I have to weigh the advantages and disadvantages... run the risk of damaging it by leaving it the way it is... or change it and risk decreasing efficiency through bellcrank flex.

Opinions?

Sarge
12-25-2003, 12:11 AM
What is the best site to get spare/new parts or a new body??? I would like to get one of these beasts but my LHS doesn't carry anythig that I could find. Sounds like better shocks could be in order right off the bat. Looking for good reliable online stores. Thanx in advance

Sarge
12-25-2003, 01:15 AM
Also does this come with a 6 cell battery pack or does that need to be purchased seperately.

cbr74
12-25-2003, 01:25 AM
For parts, I look to RcBoyz (http://www.rcboyz.com/) .

Their site doesn't always have the parts listed, but I e-mail them and they always have or can quickly get what I need and their prices are excellent.

6 cell battery pack? Don't need one.

The MGT includes a 4 cell AA battery holder. It is highly recommended that you get a 5 cell NiMh receiver pack and appropriate charger.

It does not include a glow ignitor or fuel bottle so add those to your shopping list as well if you are new to nitro. (And some fuel of course)

Better shocks... matter of opinion... the stock ones work quite well, but being plastic on plastic... they WILL come apart in a hard crash. AE has Factory Team aluminum shock caps and shock bodies that will be available soon.

Sarge
12-25-2003, 01:38 AM
Thanx for your input. One other question has come to mind. Out of the box is there anything I should swap out/upgrade, from the get go, to keep from having a hassle??

This might be a dumb question or you could call me lazy but is there a way to combine the many mods you all have discussed into one post. Trying to find a specific mod in the 30 pages would be a nightmare for somebody like me that is just now thinking about buying one of these. I know that is a stretch but I had to ask. Thanx again

cbr74
12-25-2003, 01:47 AM
There are only a few out of the box mods that are particularly significant.

See my post above for the steering bearings.

Replace the brake spring with fuel tubing and put heat shrink on the brake rod.

Swap the battery connector at the receiver to channel 4.

Remove, clean, loctite and re-install all CVD set screws and drive pins.

Double nut the wheels with 5mm nylocks.


That's all the mods I can think of.

Well, there is the RPM steering knuckle upgrade... but that comes later and isn't a "must have".

RCRACER2471
12-25-2003, 11:02 AM
Did anyone know that the Tmaxx knuckles will work on the Monster GT? I was measuring the inside and outside diameter yesterday at my shop and I notcied that there there the same. One is slightly longer than the other. Otherwise there the same...

cbr74
12-25-2003, 11:31 AM
Yeah. I already have RPM Maxx knuckles on my MGT. (bigger bearings ya know)

It requires some extra parts though...

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rampbrian
12-26-2003, 06:22 AM
im on tank # 7 for my mgt, I have a question for you all, did any one have problems with the shift points on the tranny?
my truck seems to be stuck in first gear, and top speed is about 15 mph, at around 30,000 rmp for the engine. ive heard that guys cant see it shifting cause it shifts smoothly, but im thinking that my truck is going stupid slow to be in second gear.

I finaly figured out how to ajust the black screw for the 2 speed, after fooling with the spur gear and rolling the truck fowards, I tightened it all the way to snug and backed it off 1/2 of a turn, btw, it was about 3 turns to snug it.
and I drove around with it only in first, and that = the same top speed of around 15 mph, I went to ajust the 2 speed gear again to see if I could get in 2nd gear and while trying to get the ajustment hole and the set screw to line up, i noticed that the drive train did not want to spin nicely and was acting like it was being "hung up on something"

this worried me so I shut down the truck and I guess I have to take it all apart and see whats going on in side my tranny,

can any one tell me how many turns out from snug ( not tight ) is your black set screw for the 2nd gear speed ajustment.

Im going on vacation for the next 2 days, when I get back on sunday, im going to have the truck all apart and see whats up.

thanks
brian

VWVR6
12-26-2003, 05:19 PM
Swap the battery connector at the receiver to channel 4.

Anybody know why this tips works so good? caus' it's like day and night so much more power.

MikeWz
12-26-2003, 06:23 PM
Haven't tried it yet. What exactly does it do?