Team Associated Monster GT

[speedydave]

Looks like AE is coming out with a monster truck! About freakin' time! Post your thoughts about it here! And the first thread about it is here http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92061

The second I can order one, I'm ordering one...heck yeah!

[NItro-Smoke]

Well No speedy the first post is in the General discussion Forum and the Famous Steve P himeself started it! It has now over 70 Posts---get to reading them!! But yea it looks like a bad truck to me!!

[speedydave]

Uhh, yeah..I already read all that...and you'll notice I even linked to that thread. This is more of a thread where, whenever the truck comes out, owners can talk about the truck and share ideas/questions...

[NItro-Smoke]

Thats cool! Just messin with ya!! Should be a interesting truck when it comes out!! The one guy noticed there was NO smoke coming from it! So is it a Nitro?? I hope so

[speedydave]

Maybe it's just really lean :p

[BASHER]

it is nitro

[speedydave]

I'm aware of that.

[NitroRookie]

Here are some pics of the Associated BFT.

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs/ProjectBFTFront34.jpg

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs/ProjectBFTRearView.jpg

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs/ProjectBFTHeadOn.jpg

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs/ProjectBFTWheel.jpg

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs/ProjectBFTChassis34.jpg

[nascarfreak88]

Hey is it me or dose it look like this thing has a dual exhaust?

Post copyright 2002 Nascarfreak88. All rights reserved.

[Skribble]

Yep .. It has dual exhaust. :D

[rc_racer269]

Screw the Savage, T-Maxx, Mad Force, and all those other trucks. I'm getting this one! I have to say this is one of the best looking trucks.

[R6905]

the bft looks like it will be expensive seeing as its "bigger faster tougher" and it has dual exaust, and those wheels look like this one companies "gun metal wheels" and they are like 149 dollars for a pair, if associated is including expensive stuff like that, this truck may be the first truck to come out over 1000$!! haha jk about the 1000$ part



Brandon

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

haha that thing is ugly naked compared to a naked savage....

[R6905]

I dont think associated goes for looks, i think they just want a truck that can beat everyone else's ass right out of the box





Brandon

[rc_racer269]

Originally posted by R6905
I dont think associated goes for looks, i think they just want a truck that can beat everyone else's ass right out of the box


Indeed, their other cars and trucks aren't the most flashy cars in looks, but they perform excellently.

[R6905]

Hmm.... Im trying to decide between the HPI Savage 21 and the Associated BFT, they both are built excelenly (I think) and they are both for racing, I wonder which will be better, I guess we will just have to wait and see



Brandon

[gixxer]

Looks like a small engine for a big truck .12? I think i'll keep my USA-1 with v01b. The mad force look tempting though i wish it has independent suspention. Too bad they dont sell the mad force without the crap engine.

[R6905]

i thought it was .21


Brandon

[R6905]

yeah, i just looked at the website, its .21



Brandon

[offroad4all]

Who know the spec of this truck:
lenght, width, height, wheelbase, ground clerance, weight

[R6905]

the specs arent out yet dude, it might say them on www.rc10.com though



Brandon

[Natec]

The new BFT truck looks quite interesting except for a couple of important points.

The pivot ball suspension is not as strong (due to less load bearing area) and is more difficult to properly set-up, especially in the field when running and no setup board is available. The pivot balls also bend and/or break much easier than some large diameter hinge pins would.

The muffler type tends to be more restrictive than a standard style pipe and the twin silicone exhaust extensions aren't going to last very long if they exit below and in front of the rear suspension arms. It is nice however if the exhaust exits where it doesn't slime the entire back half of the truck too badly.

The truck doesn't look too wide for it's length, but it's hard to tell from Associated's site...'square trucks' look terrible and don't tend to track as well. I like a good handling truck, but want it to maintain a proportionate look! Somebody's new wider T-ruck should've been a couple inches longer to go with that new inch of width. I've driven the current T-ruck and it is pretty good handling, but definitely a little short in the wheelbase and horsepower departments!

Other than that the BFT is looking good.

[speedydave]

Kinda like, if you're gonna get wider suspension on a Maxx, get a longer chassis with it, or if you're gonna get the longer chassis for a .21, get some wider arms with it...it just looks better.

[Liquid_cool]

I Will be selling my T's and getting one of these! This thing looks like a Hoss!! Cant wait for it to come out! Well Maybe I will keep my .21 T so I can compair the two!

[terracrusher02]

The specs for the truck are now out and it is named the "Monster GT" It is 22" long, 17.25 wide, 10.75 " High and the wheelbase is 14.5. The tires are 6.75" tall and 3.5" wide. I seems to be very close to the size of a terra crusher.

[phatboy001]

does n e one no when is it coming out and how much

[R6905]

OK.... when i went to chicago this weekend to go see the expo, this was by far the best looking monster truck there!!!! it was sweet, awesome engine, awesome shocks, awesome awesome awesome tires and whells, this thing is sweet and the flag comes with the body! the truck (according to an official from associated at the expo) is coming out after christmas, in early january... there was a movie about it and it went through water and all! it was fast, good handling, and sweet looks!


Brandon

[R6905]

also the dual exuast is rubber, so it wont break




Brandon

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Originally posted by R6905
OK.... there was a movie about it and it went through water and all! it was fast, good handling, and sweet looks!


Brandon

Were you there when they talked about the top-speed being around 32-33mph? When they told me this Im like "THATS IT" From the video it did look to handle very well but it just didnt seem to have great take-off speed.

[R6905]

unfortunately i didnt hear anything about top speed, but the movie looked sweet! i dont care if its not fast, im not gonna be racing, im just out to have tons of fun and this looks like the truck to do it with! it might just have tons of power instead of speed, that would be cool!


Brandon

[morfracerX]

ok two things i need to know about this BFT before i put my money down.

1 will the big freaking truck have a metal drive tran (thats what kept me away from the t-maxx and on the OFNA banwagon)?

2. what is the price going to be like? i hope no more then $400 anymore and i will stick with my good old MP.

[autotr8er]

Originally posted by morfracerX
ok two things i need to know about this BFT before i put my money down.

1 will the big freaking truck have a metal drive tran (thats what kept me away from the t-maxx and on the OFNA banwagon)?

2. what is the price going to be like? i hope no more then $400 anymore and i will stick with my good old MP.

MorfracerX: You shouldn't be worried about "Plastic." Reason being is that some of the plastics are stronger than most aluminums. I say "plastic" because nothing is plastic anymore, it is a composite material.

The BFT will be probably be called the Monster GT by the time it hits the stores next year. The pre-release date for OEM suppliers is January so look for them in hobby shops sometime around late January to February time frame. Price is still not determined but it will probably be $400 RTR. The new T-maxx is around $325 or so RTR. The BFT is a .21!!! You can't possibly think that it will be the same price as the T-maxx. I'm told, by Associated that it will be an RTR with a kit version available soon after with a plethora of aftermarket parts.

[drader]

FEBRUARY!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?!
Are they nuts?!?
I knew it, I just knew it - you can't go into production in September and have kits ready by Xmas. Well there goes that plan - guess I'll get the Savage.:(

[R6905]

is associated like TRYING to go out of business? they are missing the BIGGEST time of the year for their product to sell........ even if they only have lik 1000 or so made, can't they release them before christmas and sell them at higher prices or something so i can get mine?????? if i dont get it for christmas... then i will have to wait till next september.. when my birthday is


Brandon

[Crashmaxx]

Guys! Guys! Calm down.

This is associated were talking about. Of cousre it will take till feb. to get it in stores, but it will be worth the wait. Unlike the t-maxx and other trucks, that get designed and then test for about a month, then released. Associated will do extensive testing for months to work all the bugs out of it before we get it, not after.

So we will get a truck thats perfect out of the box. Sure it will be built by thunder tiger, but the major problem with there trucks is poor design, not assemble and production. And when we get the kit and the factory team stuff, it will be doing circles around the competition and will be worth the wait for sure.;)

[R6905]

Maybe it will be worth the wait for you, but im not waiting another year for it.... im getting a savage



Brandon

[autotr8er]

Well, guys. You can go ahead and make the same mistake everyone else did. They couldn't wait until the TC3 came out so they spent $500 to get the HPI to run like the TC3. Now everyone is scrambling to get a TC3. We are still talking about a Horrible Parts Inside, (HPI). Yes, the savage is launching before Christmas, but it's a rush job. Soon after the BFT is launched, HPI will come out with a Savage GT or something. The reason that Associated is going to wait until after Christmas is they want to be sure the truck is ready. They are also working on aftermarket parts to get a jump on OEM suppliers like me. It only takes me 3-5 days to manufacture a part, it takes them a couple of months. It's tough to change the way you do business. Remember, Associated just started to offer RTR kits. HPI has been doing it for eons. If you have to get a monster truck, try a Kyosho kit. By far the strongest built and highest quality you can get. Do what you feel is necessary to get your fix. I don't blame anyone for getting pissed about the launch date. Associated isn't happy either. But they'd rather wait and have an incredible truck on the first shot than to have customers disappointed in the product. My sources come directly from people directly involved with the BFT, in case you are wondering. I've told you all I know.

[autotr8er]

Crashmaxx:

Sounds like you've spoken with them too.

[R6905]

IT JUST FRUSTRATES ME! when i went to the chicago rc car show, i saw the new t-maxx, the titan, the ek-4, the bft, and all the other old and new monster trucks.... but BY FAR the best one i saw was the bft.......... and thats what sucks...... i will either get my first monster truck before christmas, or wait a year for one that is the best




Brandon

[autotr8er]

Well, right now, the best kit is the Tamiya Terra Crusher. It will out run and out handle a Tmaxx out of the box.

[drader]

After looking at pics of the BFT and the Savage (and remembering how crappy my RS4 was and how completely awesome my RC10T was) I've decided I'll wait for something done right. :D

R6905 advice: get CASH for Xmas!!!!

[autotr8er]

I agree completely with Drader

[R6905]

i want cash... but my parents would spend $600 on me, but not give me $600 or so for me to hold, they think its better to "open somthing and be surprised"


Brandon

[Crashmaxx]

Then get a dominator. It is a awsome truck. And just keep saving for the monster GT.

[Mr. WRX]

Hi All,

Since this is AE first MT, I'm sure the R&D team will take time to fix the bug. I believe quality and speed can't mix, unless we're robotic! :)
Btw, does anyone know if the cute little flag comes with it?

[emaxxgo]

i think that the first X amount of shippments come with the flag.

[terracrusher02]

Yea, it is like the first 2000 or something, will com with the flag

[Guido]

http://pub121.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtraxxasfrm97.showMessage?topicID=35.topic

Check the link. Savage in Europe already broken and not even dirty. Reminds me of my old RS4.

I'll wait for thr BFT to come out before I buy anything.

G

[atm92484_3]

Originally posted by R6905
i want cash... but my parents would spend $600 on me, but not give me $600 or so for me to hold, they think its better to "open somthing and be surprised"


Brandon

Tell your parents to hold most of the money and just get you a few little things for Christmas. Then when the BFT is released, whatever money is left can be put towards the truck. Its well worth the wait. Plus AE doesn't keep producing trucks with problems (like the Rush chassis and NMT arms).

[noodle]

I am the most impatient person in the world and that is BAD !!! I am jonesin for the TMAXX and want to sell my b3 (still gonna keep my T3) and go nitro for the first time and get the new Tmaxx. ARRRGGGG!!!!! I have seen the TMAXX for $377.00 and want to get it soon but now seeing an ae product on basically the same idea that attracted me (monster) that I am just in a funk!!! I want a Tmaxx but now arrggg!!!!!!!!!!

[JEEL]

Guys, lets not forget that this BFT is a joint venture by Associated AND Thunder Tiger!! I think I wait to see it in person before I went crazy and waited 3-4 months for it. I know Associated makes great vehicles, thats all I currently race, but I am waiting this one out until some solid consumer testing is complete. The T-Maxx, however is a proven design except we need to see how the new hi-po engine holds up! Just my .02!

[noodle]

true. Good points.

[drader]

Actually, Thunder Tiger assembles Associated's RTRs. The BFT will be the first time Thunder Tiger manufactures AND builds for Associated. All previous Associated manufacturing comes from dozens of smaller machine shops; consolidating makes sense. And make no mistake - the BFT is 100% designed by Associated, so - it's gonna rock!

[noodle]

Dont get me wrong. I am excited for its release but I think there should be a wait and see attitude. Blind loyalty is unhealthy. :p

[drader]

For me - yes, I am very loyal to Associated. Out of all the dozens of RC cars I've owned the only 3 that were Associated's were by far my favorites: a 12th scale carpet thing, a RC10T, and now a T3. Even with similar designs to other brands, the AEs were faster and more robust. And price? I was looking to get some rear springs for my T3 - they were sold out, but only cost $1.50. So I thought, "I'll just get some HPI's". Those were $8.00. The BFT will be done right!

[noodle]

I hear ya! I have a B3 and a T3 and love both of them (although I am more of a truck kinda guy) but I do question a stated spd of 33 mph. That is low compared to the Tmaxx. AE pretty much always does it right but if I am looking for something else or something that is not really what they are aiming for then I will look elsewhere. I feel funny about it too but I am swinging to the Tmaxx. A very good truck with a good track record RTR for $377.00. That says a lot.

[aluminumcrusher]

do anybody know the true mph on the monster-gt & the true mph on the hpi savage-21? because traxxas post their mph on all their car's & trucks. and speed is part of performance that's why traxxas not only show you how their vehicles handles by video, but they also post how fast they will handle=mph. because it's all part of performance. I believe that hpi & team A did not post their mph because they are slower than the new t-maxx and by posting the mph lets say about 30mph, to the public would hurt their sales against the new 40+mph t-maxx. don't get me wrong i like the moster-gt and the savage-21, i prefer the monster-gt because it looks like an real monster kinda like the REAL SIZE USA-ONE and i like the savage-21 for it looks like an real baja racer or desert racer,both are sweet but if they only do about 30mph then forget them i will just buy the new t-maxx or the monster- titan. please respond steve p, hpi, team-A, or anyone that know's the truth on these monster trucks mph. thankyou your friendly neighborhood ALUMINUM CRUSHER!

[drader]

I drove a Duratrax Thunder Quake at a BMX park and was extremely disappointed at the gearing. It was geared waaaaay too high for the weight, and took a long run to get up to full speed. All I wanted was a burst of torque to launch off the jumps, not something that gives good radar numbers with a tailwind. If the AE car is 25% slower - it will have 25% more torque. Kids always come up to me and say "How fast does your car go?" I say "You're looking at it". What else is there? What does 40mph mean anywhere except a flat, straight road? Besides, you don't really think Associated would make a SLOW car, do you?

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by drader
I drove a Duratrax Thunder Quake at a BMX park and was extremely disappointed at the gearing. It was geared waaaaay too high for the weight, and took a long run to get up to full speed. All I wanted was a burst of torque to launch off the jumps, not something that gives good radar numbers with a tailwind. If the AE car is 25% slower - it will have 25% more torque. Kids always come up to me and say "How fast does your car go?" I say "You're looking at it". What else is there? What does 40mph mean anywhere except a flat, straight road? Besides, you don't really think Associated would make a SLOW car, do you? Dear drader 40mph means a lot when it comes to monster truck racing. Most of all monster truck racing is done on a straight away with an ramp and junkyard cars to get over. It's called dragracing monster truck style. And this is where it's going with the radio control nitro & electric monster trucks, soon you will see more monster truck dragracing indoors & out, just about everywhere they're sold. So racing on a track like this i would say call's for (THE NEED FOR SPEED)=MPH, ALONG WITH AN GOOD OFF-ROAD SUSPENSION. PLEASE RESPOND YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD ALUMINUM CRUSHER. PS BY THE WAY I THINK TEAM-A WOULD NOT MAKE AN SLOW CAR, BUT FOR AN FIRST MONSTER TRUCK??? YOU MAY BE LOOKING AT THUNDER QUAKE PART 2. MAN THAT THING IS SLOW, OUT OF THE BOX IT WOULD NEVER WIN ANY MONSTER TRUCK DRAG RACE. NOT EVEN AGAINST AN ELECTRIC MONSTER TRUCK FROM THE LATE 1980'S.

[NoPepsiForYou]

PS BY THE WAY I THINK TEAM-A WOULD NOT MAKE AN SLOW CAR, BUT FOR AN FIRST MONSTER TRUCK???

An Before Vowels...a before constinates

And I don't care about top speed, performance and handling are 80% of a race.

[RCtinkerman]

I tend to agree with drader, I prefer realizism and with a Monster truck that means climbing ability not speed! But, to each their own. If you want to race Monster trucks fast in a straight line, ENJOY.:D

[rs4-3]

I like to race that is why i do not have a monster
truck yet
when they can make a monster trucks handling be
up to a RC10GT or a good buggy i will by one.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by RCtinkerman
I tend to agree with drader, I prefer realizism and with a Monster truck that means climbing ability not speed! But, to each their own. If you want to race Monster trucks fast in a straight line, ENJOY.:D MR.RCTINKERMAN I DO PREFER REALIZISM ALSO, JUST LIKE THE FULL SCALE MONSTER TRUCKS THEY HAVE TOQUE AND RPM=MPH ALSO THE LOOKS OF A BIG TRUCK. I DID NOT SAY I JUST CARE ABOUT TOP SPEED ONLY! FROM THE VIDEO'S BFT, IT SEEM TO HAVE TOQUE. NOW THE HPI SAVAGE-21 & THE OFNA MONSTER TITAN JUST SEEMS TO BE BLOATED WITH TOQUE AND GREAT TOP SPEED! BUT I JUST LIKE THE LOOK'S OF THE NO LADDER BAR'S ON THE BFT=EXTRA GROUND CLEARANCE TO GO OVER BIG RED BRICK'S. SO I AGREE WITH YOU BOTH,& DOUBLE AGREE WITH YOU RCTINKERMAN=TO EACH THEIR OWN. I JUST WANT'S A RC MONSTER TRUCK THAT HAS IT ALL. BY FOR NOW YOUR FRIENDLY NEIGHBORHOOD ALUMINUM CRUSHER.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
An Before Vowels...a before constinates

And I don't care about top speed, performance and handling are 80% of a race. DEAR NOPEPSIFORYOU I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT RC MONSTER TRUCK'S PLEASE STICK TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND! IF YOU WANNA TEACH! GO TO WWW.TEACH ME NOW.COM! BY FOR NOW ALUMINUM CRUSHER.

[RCtinkerman]

:p

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Originally posted by NoPepsiForYou
An Before Vowels...a before constinates


The real funny thing about this is you didn't spell "constinates" correctly. The spelling is
-consonants-

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=consonants

:):):)


In Dec. rcca they say the MGT has over 5" of ground clearance.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by QUAKE&SHAKE
The real funny thing about this is you didn't spell "constinates" correctly. The spelling is
-consonants-

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=consonants

:):):)


In Dec. rcca they say the MGT has over 5" of ground clearance. Hey quake&shake that 5" of ground clearance is sweet! do you know the shock travel? I have not figured that one out yet, but i guess 3"-3 1/2" of shock travel if you find out let us monster trucks fans know. thank you your friendly neighborhood aluminum crusher!!!ps another thing i like about the monster-gt is the xtra space on the other side for another fuel tank, maybe team-A will make a special 250 to 300cc direct bolt on fit???

[NoPepsiForYou]

:D

[stistu]

Monster trucks are about offroad thrashing and not drag races for top speed. At top speed they all will flip over if you even think about steering.

Try going out to a full-scale monster truck event and asking one of the drivers and ask them what the top speed is. They'll look at you like your some kinda wierdo.

Or better yet buy yourself an F-350 and get a lift kit and some huge tires, then work on the engine and gearing so it will do 200mph. I'd like to see that, and youd probably win something on "Americas stupidest videos". :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:

[crazyL]

they wont look at you like a weirdo cause i asked and the guy said 80mph.

[NoPepsiForYou]

Wow, thats pretty fast for there size.

[stistu]

80? Thats it???? they have like 2000 horsepower and all they can do is 80??? Tell him your moms Camry will beat it and see what he does.

[drader]

"Or better yet buy yourself an F-350 and get a lift kit and some huge tires, then work on the engine and gearing so it will do 200mph"

Lamborghini did that with the LM02 - they took their 450hp V12 motor and stuffed it in a huge GI-Joe SUV thing. I think the top speed was still tested around 150!

[NoPepsiForYou]

It kinda looks like the cross between a shirmp and a Hummer.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by stistu
Monster trucks are about offroad thrashing and not drag races for top speed. At top speed they all will flip over if you even think about steering.

Try going out to a full-scale monster truck event and asking one of the drivers and ask them what the top speed is. They'll look at you like your some kinda wierdo.

Or better yet buy yourself an F-350 and get a lift kit and some huge tires, then work on the engine and gearing so it will do 200mph. I'd like to see that, and youd probably win something on "Americas stupidest videos". :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes: Dear stistu i guess you never been to a monster truck pit party? they have those pit party's so that fan's question's will be answerd!=like how fast will it go? just like cray-L , i myself ask the driver's of different truck's how fast will it go? and how much horsepower it have? And if you watch a monster truck video the inside camera show's that they are doing some serious steering while dragracing & shifting gears over jump's and uneven car's while feeding that big block all of the fuel it can handle to reach maximum rpm quickly that it's driver is asking for! by for now your friendly neighborhood aluminum crusher. ps i hope that the monster-gt will produce these same results for it's driver's.

[stistu]

Sorry dude but the LM002 isn't a tall monster truck with huge tires and it has a top speed of 130mph. Its more of a desert truck.

Next time your at a monster truck jam ask the whats the fastest its ever gone. None of those guys are going to see how fast it can go, its stupid because they would probably wad it up trying. The fastest they go in a show is probably 50mph and even then they almost roll over when they steer. Top speed is one of the last things a monster truck driver cares about. It would be like making a big deal about fuel economy, it just isnt what the truck was built for.

So what if the tmaxx goes 40, you cant do that in the dirt unless you like flipping over all the time like the mad force does. Plus the tmaxx has a high rpm small engine that is stressed to the max so it overheats and doesnt have a very long life compared to a 21 with lots of torque and power. Wait till the BFT comes out cuz its gonna stomp the tmaxx.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by stistu
Sorry dude but the LM002 isn't a tall monster truck with huge tires and it has a top speed of 130mph. Its more of a desert truck.

Next time your at a monster truck jam ask the whats the fastest its ever gone. None of those guys are going to see how fast it can go, its stupid because they would probably wad it up trying. The fastest they go in a show is probably 50mph and even then they almost roll over when they steer. Top speed is one of the last things a monster truck driver cares about. It would be like making a big deal about fuel economy, it just isnt what the truck was built for.

So what if the tmaxx goes 40, you cant do that in the dirt unless you like flipping over all the time like the mad force does. Plus the tmaxx has a high rpm small engine that is stressed to the max so it overheats and doesnt have a very long life compared to a 21 with lots of torque and power. Wait till the BFT comes out cuz its gonna stomp the tmaxx. Dear stistu the only reason the mad force flip over a lot is due to a stiff suspension set up, just watch the video the shocks barely move. And the t-maxx engine will not overheat with the proper carb settings it was modified at the factory to put out and handle the new power it's creator has given it. And people do care about top speed! if they did not care about top speed, then why did our forefather's invented the theary on MPH??? because people do care! and a lot of rc-caraction subscriber's care about MPH that's why they post it in their performance test on monster truck's & car's. And i assume that rc-caraction post the truth, and i hope they will post the truth on the MONSTER-GT performance & top speed. by for now your friendly neighborhood aluminum crusher.

[aluminumcrusher]

Hey you monster truck fans all over the USA, call up team-A, and demand that they put out more video's on the monster-gt. Ask them to cut out the music & the slow motion! just make a natural performance video like traxxas & hpi, so that all monster truck's fan's will be able to here the truth and see the truth,so that the performance of this truck will enter our vain's as the t-maxx did 2 years ago.By for now your friendly neighborhood aluminum crusher. ps request that they make it downloadable size please.

[morfracerX]

Funny i thought i was the only one that was pissed qabout not being able to hear the motor.

By the way as long as a truck can do 35 i am one happy r/c'er.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by morfracerX
Funny i thought i was the only one that was pissed qabout not being able to hear the motor.

By the way as long as a truck can do 35 i am one happy r/c'er. Dear morfracerX your not the only one who would like to here & see natural performance video's, a lot of people just do not speak up.By the way as long as the monster-gt can do 35+ mph with lots of torque behind it! I'll will welcome that. Remember the thunder quake it reach a speed of 32mph but has no torque to get it up to speed quickly=(no moe-joe as Austin Powers would say). By for now your friendly neighborhood aluminum crusher.

[RCtinkerman]

So the BFT will be out around Feb03', I think I can wait that long. Actually most of these new nitro Monster trucks are beefed up statium trucks. Compare the Terra Crusher, BFT, and Savage 21 which have a lower stance, to the TXT-1 which really resembles a Monster truck. See the difference?

[Skribble]

Because of the Solid Axle design. What's so bad about the supersized Stadium Truck on Steroids? It's a formula that works, and works well at that with the correct setup. My definition of a Monster Truck is lots of power, and huge wheels ..

[ALJR]

what do you guys think of the bft's engine position as it relates to the drive train?? this is the one area of the truck that has me a lil uneasy... in order for the engine to connect to the drive train, it has to make a 90 degree turn... seems like allot of abuse on these gears..... unless they use a different method to connect the engine to the center diff???

will the bft be available with out reverse? i don't want it, there for i don't want to pay for it :)

will it have metal gears in the trans? kinda like the savages?

will maxx bodies and tires/rims fit? lots of options here :)

any one know the weight of the bft, savage and new maxx.. i heard (and this is only hear-say) that the savage will be just under 10 pounds, new maxx was a tad over 9 and the bft was around 12.... any truth to this??

[Guido]

The Savage looks like there won't be room for optional engines without using the ofna short pull start engines. The diff gears are housed in a plastic lower skidplate and flat aluminum plate that looks like dirt could get in between the seams and ruin your ring and pinion gears.

The lack of an upper control arm in combination with c-hubs looks to be a problem in the Savage. The disk brake is exposed down low to dirt and debris which would cause your brakes not to work. The vertical chassis plates do not encompass the suspension arms to provide support for the mounts. They may tear away from the chassis in a jump, tumble or impact.


The BFT may be heavier but it will also be alot stronger than the Savage. Lets wait and see when they are all out on the market before we make judgements.

G.

[NoPepsiForYou]

after seing the BFT in the new issue of RCCA I don't like it anymore:(

It just looks too bulky, heavy, and boring. I would much rather have a Savage (with a better engine) than this. But HPI stuff really stinks so im gonna get a new T-Maxx and spend a bunch of money on it to make it kick *****.

But I will more than likely change my mind, only time will tell.

[draggerman11]

Originally posted by stistu
Sorry dude but the LM002 isn't a tall monster truck with huge tires and it has a top speed of 130mph. Its more of a desert truck.

Next time your at a monster truck jam ask the whats the fastest its ever gone. None of those guys are going to see how fast it can go, its stupid because they would probably wad it up trying. The fastest they go in a show is probably 50mph and even then they almost roll over when they steer. Top speed is one of the last things a monster truck driver cares about. It would be like making a big deal about fuel economy, it just isnt what the truck was built for.

So what if the tmaxx goes 40, you cant do that in the dirt unless you like flipping over all the time like the mad force does. Plus the tmaxx has a high rpm small engine that is stressed to the max so it overheats and doesnt have a very long life compared to a 21 with lots of torque and power. Wait till the BFT comes out cuz its gonna stomp the tmaxx.

It isn't stressed out, and isn't overheating. If it was stressed, it wouldn't be flipping over on its top.

[Guido]

I'm sure those long Savage shocks will bend really well with the slightest impact and be really expensive to upgrade.

The radio box looks like it will work well for collecting dirt and water since it's not sealed. I can't see it being easy to get your radio equipment out easily when it comes time to clean. Also that radio cover looks like the shock tower is in the way and difficult to remove.

When is Hpi going to use the more reliable clutched two speed? I see the Savage has that same pin unit two speed trans that only works half the time in the RS4.

I hope the BFT works out well because if it turns out to be a lemon then I won't buy anything.

G.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by Guido
The Savage looks like there won't be room for optional engines without using the ofna short pull start engines. The diff gears are housed in a plastic lower skidplate and flat aluminum plate that looks like dirt could get in between the seams and ruin your ring and pinion gears.

The lack of an upper control arm in combination with c-hubs looks to be a problem in the Savage. The disk brake is exposed down low to dirt and debris which would cause your brakes not to work. The vertical chassis plates do not encompass the suspension arms to provide support for the mounts. They may tear away from the chassis in a jump, tumble or impact.


The BFT may be heavier but it will also be alot stronger than the Savage. Lets wait and see when they are all out on the market before we make judgements.

G. Dear guido go to hpi web site and check the video's on the savage-21 i do not think that anything will tear away from it's chassis after taking & handling a 13ft. jump so don't worry be happy & review the video's again & again & again. by for now your friendly neighborhood aluminum crusher.

[ALJR]

Originally posted by Guido
I'm sure those long Savage shocks will bend really well with the slightest impact and be really expensive to upgrade.

The radio box looks like it will work well for collecting dirt and water since it's not sealed. I can't see it being easy to get your radio equipment out easily when it comes time to clean. Also that radio cover looks like the shock tower is in the way and difficult to remove.

When is Hpi going to use the more reliable clutched two speed? I see the Savage has that same pin unit two speed trans that only works half the time in the RS4.

I hope the BFT works out well because if it turns out to be a lemon then I won't buy anything.

G.

since when is a shoe type 2spd more durable than a finger type? its more accurate, but not as durable... now add large, heavy tires and watch those shoe's get smoked....

rather than bash the savage in the bft forum, why not post your opinions in the savage forum. or better yet, why not post some of your opinions on the bft?? i, and im sure other in the group are interested in hearing credible comments you might have on this subject:)

[Guido]

Actually ALJR.

I've voiced my opinions on the HPI site before the forums closed. I've also had a discussion with you on the Hpi site regarding some of these things. If the truck is a gem then so be it, but i'm personaly jaded from my previous HPI vehicles.

Why are You on the BFT forum boasting the Savage? The reason I even entered the discussion was because I'm sick of reading about your Savage raves. Let them all come out, then decide!

Speaking of which, why don't you go back to your Savage forum if you love the truck so much. Personally i'm holding off untill everything is out on the market. I'll give them all the oportunity to impress me. So far i'm just making observations and have not driven your precious Savage and neither have you!

G.

[senvek]

In regards to the MGT video...as is the case in any marketing strategy, only flattering, quality video is utilized. Some events are staged, ie. the T-Maxx string-wheelie episode, some events are actual, and some events are cut from final production. The old pearl of wisdom states, "Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." In my opinion, the only significant element in the MGT saga is this, "Does the design and suspension geometry work?" From what I can see, I would have to give it an emphatic yes (this coming from a Losi guy...imagine)! Torque and speed are typically elements that can be manipulated by gearing, engine upgrades, and even tire choices. If the price is right, and it is truly intended for monster truck bashing, it will not make an ounce of difference whose truck is faster, because some nice kid with enough money to buy a good T-Maxx set-up will always get his tail crushed with his hopes, by some jerk who has more money than brains with a $3000.00 set up. It boils down to this...IT IS AN ASSOCIATED PRODUCT, THEREFOR IT WILL BE DURABLE, IT WILL BE RELIABLE, AND THERE WILL BE EXCELLENT AFTERMARKET SUPPORT. END OF STORY. (a distant "A-men" is heard from father Reedy)

[ALJR]

Originally posted by Guido
Actually ALJR.


Speaking of which, why don't you go back to your Savage forum if you love the truck so much. Personally i'm holding off untill everything is out on the market. I'll give them all the oportunity to impress me. So far i'm just making observations and have not driven your precious Savage and neither have you!

G.

i am here to get information about the bft, not to hear your rants about the poor quality of hpi products. i personally could care less, but i would rather hear your thoughts on the bft.....

i didn't think i was boasting the savage in here (bft forum). if i did, then i sorry, that wasn't my intention.... truth be told, i am leaning toards the savage. i don't much care for the placement of there engine and how it relates to the drive train. i brought this point up a few posts back, but no one had any comments on this, so....

i am trying to get as much information as possible about the two trucks and as soon as possible... i have the savage on back order and want to have enough time to cancell the order if i feel the bft is the better buy!

[Coconut]

The thing is that their is ntot enough information out abouteither ofthe truck to amke a user review. From past experience: I will say that Associated usually does not miss much when making a off road vehicle. You will find that they are innovators andlike to go their own way;but they always turn out excellent off road vehicles. Like you I'm looking at them all. Generally I've found HPI vehicles to be more on a parr with Traxxas vehicles. Just from onroad experience;the fingerclutch two speed is not very durable. Ifyou'll check you'll see that none of the on road two speeds use them and the all the newer 200 vehicles have gone away from them because of compalinants. The finger clutch is cheaper to make is their only advantage. I do think the Savage is aneat looking vehicle;and HPI makes great bodies;but for getting the suspension geometry right;making a more durable vehicle ;preproduct testing Associated just has the people and experience to do it better. That's just my opinion from my experience. Hopefully Associated will come out with a team version minus the RTR stuff.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by Coconut
The thing is that their is ntot enough information out abouteither ofthe truck to amke a user review. From past experience: I will say that Associated usually does not miss much when making a off road vehicle. You will find that they are innovators andlike to go their own way;but they always turn out excellent off road vehicles. Like you I'm looking at them all. Generally I've found HPI vehicles to be more on a parr with Traxxas vehicles. Just from onroad experience;the fingerclutch two speed is not very durable. Ifyou'll check you'll see that none of the on road two speeds use them and the all the newer 200 vehicles have gone away from them because of compalinants. The finger clutch is cheaper to make is their only advantage. I do think the Savage is aneat looking vehicle;and HPI makes great bodies;but for getting the suspension geometry right;making a more durable vehicle ;preproduct testing Associated just has the people and experience to do it better. That's just my opinion from my experience. Hopefully Associated will come out with a team version minus the RTR stuff. WELL SAID, MY FRIEND WEEL SAID!!

[ALJR]

i agree, a kit would be sweet....

i like the fact that the bft comes with universal center shafts, or at least the prototype bft does. does any one know if it also has CVD's for the front and rear drive axles? i have no problems running dogbones and most likely will not upgrade to CVD's. but if the truck already comes with them, its just a bonus :)

my theory is cvd's are nice on touring on-road cars as they reduce some of the drive train slop. but on a MT, its not really noticable and adds to the maintenance. there for, i wouldn't add it as a hop-up:) jmo

the brakes on the bft also look better than the savage... looks as though hpi is using there plastic disk:mad: and associated is going with duel fibers???

little things like that bother me about hpi.... wish they would include more "extras" in there kits...

but on the other hand, hpi does have a couple advantages. there bodies are very detailed and come with lots of stickers. the price of there kits is very resonable. there products are relatively durable. parts availabitlity is good in my area and the aftermarket loves making parts for them :)

[Coconut]

I also noticed the heavyduty looking universals (sliders). I also think that CVD's are a pain and expensive to keeup. But dogbones are ok for on road short travel suspension but a pain in long travel suspensions. Can't say I've seen ever seen a heavyduty slider in MT but if made right maybe the ticket for bashers. Its in the hop-ups I think Associated has the advantage. They have great factory drivers to develop their truck and tell them what it needs to perform better. They can then produce the parts cheaper than the small aftemarket companies can even if they had the drivers to tell them. There is also the fact that associated just does not come out with a new model evry six months;but just keeps on developing it for years. Every person I know thinks they got their money out of their original stadium Gt and still use most of it for parts.

[rcrebel]

Check this out. OK, AE has the most world record wins in the world, right. OK than, there you go. Expect the same from this truck. More actually. If any have seen the 4:25 long video, you can tell this truck is nice. Thats running in the woods, it has to perform better on-road! I have a pond by my house and I like the 5in. GC. Going swimming.

[rs4-3]

To me if the AE MONSTER GT was 100% AE it would be the best mounster truck of all time but it is
not it is a joint venture with THUNDER TIGER
and that is what i do not like ,thunder tiger help
design the monster gt,that to me was one very big
mistake on AE part.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by rs4-3
To me if the AE MONSTER GT was 100% AE it would be the best mounster truck of all time but it is
not it is a joint venture with THUNDER TIGER
and that is what i do not like ,thunder tiger help
design the monster gt,that to me was one very big
mistake on AE part. why was it a big mistake on team-a part? is it because thunder tiger isn't a american company? or is it because thunder tiger makes sorry parts? what what what's the answer?

[Coconut]

Thunder Tiger produces the truck and Associated designed and deveoped the truck. Like all their RTR vehicles;they don't make or assemble them. In fact most US companies don't and alot don't even design theirs.

[RCtinkerman]

Just by the mere fact that Associated has it's name on it, it'll be QA'd to the max. It might not be the very best Monster truck in all areas, but it'll be hard to beat.

[rs4-3]

Originally posted by Coconut
Thunder Tiger produces the truck and Associated designed and deveoped the truck. Like all their RTR vehicles;they don't make or assemble them. In fact most US companies don't and alot don't even design theirs.

NO going on what i read in one of the mags it
was a joint design and developed by going on that
to AE made a big mistake not designing it all
them self.

it is fact that Thunder Tiger can not design a
truck or a car like TEAM ASSOCIATED.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by Coconut
Thunder Tiger produces the truck and Associated designed and deveoped the truck. Like all their RTR vehicles;they don't make or assemble them. In fact most US companies don't and alot don't even design theirs. I AGREE BROTHER FOR YOU ARE PREACHING THE TRUTH, YOU HAVE BEEN SENT WITH A MESSAGE FROM ABOVE AMEN. PS AND WHO CARES WHO BUILDS OR DESIGN A RC TRUCK? AS LONG AS IT'S ALL GOOD AND BRINGS LOTS OF NITRO POWER TO THE PEOPLE! AMEN

[fezzy]

My LHS had a BFT in yesterday, unfortunately i couldn't go and see it but he said it looked very impressive

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by fezzy
My LHS had a BFT in yesterday, unfortunately i couldn't go and see it but he said it looked very impressive we need info that we can dwell on please let us know how much BIGGER,FASTER,&TUFF THIS THING REALLY IS ONCE YOU FIND OUT; OH AND DON'T FORGET TO GIVE US THE INFO ON THE STEERING! THANK YOU ALUMINUM CRUSHER.

[rcrebel]

I honsetly believe the Maxx has met it's match, possible beaten. AE is going to do their best to make this the best monster it can be. They did it with the RC10s, and they have world champions. And TTR can make some nasty engines.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by rcrebel
I honsetly believe the Maxx has met it's match, possible beaten. AE is going to do their best to make this the best monster it can be. They did it with the RC10s, and they have world champions. And TTR can make some nasty engines. THUNDER TIGER DOE'S MAKE SOME PRETTY FUNKY ENGINES;THEY HAVE THE POWER TO DIGG IT'S WAY THROUGH THE GROUND! AND NOT YOUR WALLET. AS THEY SAY IN KOREA...LAST LONG TIME!!!

[fezzy]

The one my LHS has in was a 'demo' model, I'm sure the guy who works there will have pics because he said he'd take some with a digi cam, he wasn't able to run it.. But he was very impressed with the build quality and craftsmanship (typical AE).

I don't know if it'l dethrone the T-Maxx, i have a Dominator myself and i ran with the new 2.5 T-Maxx and i was very impressed, it was faster than my Dominator in a drag race (I don't have a 2-Speed yet) but even so its quite impressive.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by fezzy
The one my LHS has in was a 'demo' model, I'm sure the guy who works there will have pics because he said he'd take some with a digi cam, he wasn't able to run it.. But he was very impressed with the build quality and craftsmanship (typical AE).

I don't know if it'l dethrone the T-Maxx, i have a Dominator myself and i ran with the new 2.5 T-Maxx and i was very impressed, it was faster than my Dominator in a drag race (I don't have a 2-Speed yet) but even so its quite impressive. WE NEED MORE;BETTER,SOLID, INFO!... B.S.I ON THE B.F.T COME ON MAN GET OUR HOPES UP HIGH, REAL HIGH!!! OR AT LEAST INCLUDE 100mg tabs of VIAGRA WITH YOUR NEXT POST.

[fezzy]

It looks to be a super truck but at the end of the day there are alot 'other' super trucks for different reasons, After last Sunday i have high hopes on the 2.5, I'd hazard a geuss to say it will be faster than the BFT.

[rcrebel]

I know everybody like speed and all but what if U can get to a big space to hit 40+, there are too many jump at my park to move that fast, thats where trucks like this come in. BTW, I love drawing crowds! Its so fun!

[senvek]

As if my input really matters...beyond the truck itself, I personally think the entire monster truck agenda needs to be looked at in close detail. The most glaring area is the track itself. If all I want to do is race a monster truck on a well groomed packed track, I would use a pan style truck like a dominator or the like. It would even be worth looking at .21 conversions for the existing stadium trucks, but if you really want to test the "Monster" in the monster truck, the track should be tailored for such. Example: How about crawling over bricks and crumpled sheet metal, then turning up the speed for a straight stretch of loose gravel, then concluding the race with a series of death defying moguls (perhaps the hollowed remains of the 1/10th 2wd B main)? Too many people want to simply race monster trucks like stadium trucks...I ask you, "Why bother with the 4wd and the elevated ground clearance if you are going to drive on a nice, pretty clay track?" 4wd is slower and power draining, and the higher center of gravity increases roll-over and forward rolls with braking. I want a monster truck, but I want to use it like one. If it looks pretty, it belongs in a dress catalog, not my track brothers.

[rcrebel]

That is so true. I hope this is more of the off-road monster. And it looks like that from the video. Running through creeks, rock pits, and straight dirt paths. Sound like a true monster!

[Coconut]

Hey;this is America were they race the lawnmowers on weekends and race the family vehicle at the drag strip on Saturday night. Most tracks in my experience change the track for MT race to where it would be unsuitable for staium trucks or 1/8th buggies. Besides most only race their MT's one night a week and 90% of time it is bashed. I know guys who race at dirt track,bash and then race it on parkinglot at times. I say more power to them;even if its not for me. If you look at the basic design this is no roack crawler or mudder to go thru creeks,it is made for same purpose as the T Maxx. which is more what I call all Terrain RC.

[senvek]

RCRebel...that's what I'm talkin' about! Everybody was saying how awesome the suspension articulation was on the TXT-1, then proceeded to complain about the serious lack of speed. HELLO? If you want a four wheel drive stadium truck, look to xtm, or make a conversion for an xxx-4. The reality is, Tamiya hit the nail on the head. It is all about power, torque, and suspension articulation. It is about powering through pastey mud, climbing up insane inclines, and clawing four fearsome tires over unimaginable obstacles. The MGT looks like it has an excellent independent suspension, with plenty of travel for those big rocks. A .21 from any manufacturer should be sufficient to pull it through the mud, let alone a well tested TT nitro. The trick now, remains, did Associated cave in and cater to the buggy fans who where looking for another class to race at the track, or did they develop a machine DESIGNED to tackle truly tough and unforgiving terrain? Literature and biased promotional material will never tell the true tale. So, for now, we are resigned to relying on our own experiences with Associated and their products. Personally, I am not blindly loyal to any manufacturer, so I can say quite unbiased, Associated always makes a well designed, well machined, well supported product, and even if it is 10 months late with release, it will be well worth it.

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by senvek
RCRebel...that's what I'm talkin' about! Everybody was saying how awesome the suspension articulation was on the TXT-1, then proceeded to complain about the serious lack of speed. HELLO? If you want a four wheel drive stadium truck, look to xtm, or make a conversion for an xxx-4. The reality is, Tamiya hit the nail on the head. It is all about power, torque, and suspension articulation. It is about powering through pastey mud, climbing up insane inclines, and clawing four fearsome tires over unimaginable obstacles. The MGT looks like it has an excellent independent suspension, with plenty of travel for those big rocks. A .21 from any manufacturer should be sufficient to pull it through the mud, let alone a well tested TT nitro. The trick now, remains, did Associated cave in and cater to the buggy fans who where looking for another class to race at the track, or did they develop a machine DESIGNED to tackle truly tough and unforgiving terrain? Literature and biased promotional material will never tell the true tale. So, for now, we are resigned to relying on our own experiences with Associated and their products. Personally, I am not blindly loyal to any manufacturer, so I can say quite unbiased, Associated always makes a well designed, well machined, well supported product, and even if it is 10 months late with release, it will be well worth it. even if it's 10 months late with release, i say dear old chap we all might be dead by then! so the sooner the better, we do not know what the next day will hold for us in it's hand! but i can tell you this; it will not BE the monster-GT. HA HA HA, what a BUMMER, so lets all go to sleep until it come out next SUMMER.

[RCtinkerman]

aluminumcrusher, you're a RAPPER too!:D :cool:

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by RCtinkerman
aluminumcrusher, you're a RAPPER too!:D :cool: NA i'm just a silly ol redneck hillbilly who just like's to have fun;But i do dream about being MnM the rapper who just made the movie 8thMILE, i also day dream about being the best rc monster truck driver in the world, and i also day dream about building a real looking monster truck kit 30"to36"long with a 500cc tank, thunder tiger's 90 or bigger engine etc. I would put out 3 kits that looks just like the full size. bigfoot#11, gravedigger,& wrenchhead. But these are just dreams that will get me no where in life that's why i am an ol redneck hillbilly.yeeeeehaaaaa

[rcrebel]

Ya, I'm seriously waiting for this truck.

[rcrebel]

I am just wondering who exactly said the truck was coming out in the middle of next year? I think it should be way out before then. I have seen pics of this truck months before the now. I could show you guys if I could get to the old MaxxTraxx fourms. I think it was at one of those shows. I'm good to go because I already have the money:D Just waiting now

[rs4-3]

CAN SOME NOW WHEN THIS TRUCK GOING TO BE OUT
:confused:

[ALJR]

i heard the biginning of next year, around march.

don't understand why they wouldn't push it for the x-mass season... seems like allot of sales will be lost..

in my opinion, traxxas did it best by releasing theres with pleanty of time to get it into the shops. the inital rush of purchases would have slowed down by x-mass and lots of ppl would have already seen them running. so they can ask santa for it:)

hpi is going to be tight or really hard to get a hold of them for x-mass. seems as though there not going to be on the shelfs till the end on the month (november). the ppl who have been on back order and waiting patiently will clean them out quick. leaving customers high and dry. most likely, they will buy the maxx for there bratty kids just to shut them up :)

but associated has always marched to the beat of there own drum. maybe they have ther own ideas for marketing.. even though there not good ideas :)

[rcrebel]

U know, if U have read your RCCA issues like your surpose to:) , they already talk about hop-ups like: ; Functional, aluminum-body reservoir shocks; A blue-anodized aluminum Factor Team dual-chamber tuned pipe; A light-weiht Factor Team blue-anodized chassis; and it will have all the starting materials: a fuel bottle, a glow-plug igniter with a charger and various tools. That could be a slow down on production.

[NoPepsiForYou]

AE themselves told people that it would come out in Early January at the RC-expo. People have just made up there own dates around that for some odd reason. So at the very VERY VERY latest it will be out in March (if for some reason they find some defectes or are slow in making them)

[ALJR]

hey man, i was only relaying what i heard :)

[NoPepsiForYou]

ohh, no I wasn't saying that you made it up, its just one person says a date and everybody beilves it. Before ya know it its all over the forums.

[rcrebel]

ALJR,Good ear! I need you on my RC Spy Team:D

[ALJR]

Originally posted by rcrebel
ALJR,Good ear! I need you on my RC Spy Team:D

lol... and what "rc spy team" would that be.....haha :)

[aluminumcrusher]

Is it true that the bft is bigger & tuff, but not faster? so team-A decided to work on the gearing and this resulted a hold on it's release date??? is it also true that they could not get the truck faster than 30mph, and that led them to change the name from BFT to monster-GT??? because it's purpose was set out to be the biggest, the fastest,& toughest truck around; and this they could not accomplish because of the speed of the 2.5 t-maxx, so now they just call it the monster-GT. And by prolonging it's release date, they hope that all will forget that it was ever called the BFT. IS THIS TRUE??? I think it will be the biggest,& toughest but not the fastest, if it is the fastest out of all the new RTR monster trucks from 2002, then team-A will go down in rc history as the GIANTS, THE TOP DOGGS,THE KINGS OF RC OFFROADING!!! SOMEONE PLEASE RESPOND FROM TEAM-A (just like troy lymon responds from hpi) i think that's great.

[rcrebel]

I might try to talk a representive down here. I've done it before.

[NoPepsiForYou]

Yes! do that so we can finally get some truth on this Thread:)

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by rcrebel
I might try to talk a representive down here. I've done it before. Yeah man do that talk to someone from team-A, thank's because they don't do the customer service xtra's like hpi.& also ask them to put out a new video all natural no music and no slowmotion thanks.

[Mr. WRX]

Originally posted by rcrebel
I might try to talk a representive down here. I've done it before.

What did you guys think about those roll-bar? Kinda look like made from coat-hanger! Don't ya think? :D Yeah, mention this to the AE rep...I already sent an e-mail about this, but they ignore it! :(

[aluminumcrusher]

Originally posted by Mr. WRX
What did you guys think about those roll-bar? Kinda look like made from coat-hanger! Don't ya think? :D Yeah, mention this to the AE rep...I already sent an e-mail about this, but they ignore it! :( May be team-A is not so great after all, going downhill anyone??? give us more customer service and more video's like hpi or they will out grow you; hpi, they know what vitamins to take to make their company grow=customer service & great video's! come on team-A step up to the plate it's time to play some serious ball and hpi is winning. YOUR NAME IS ON THE LINE!!!

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Originally posted by rcrebel
A light-weiht Factor Team blue-anodized chassis;

I saw this chassis at the hobby show.
This hop-up will most likely be expensive and a waste of money.
#1 you wont be able to see it unless the truck is upside-down and then you only see a little bit of it, so much for the pretty blue color.
#2 save only a few ounces. UH the truck weighs 12 pounds a few ozs wont even be noticed.

One thing to think about is that it uses a 16 tooth clutchbell put a smaller one in there and the power will be even better. Say an 11 tooth. Gearing makes a BIG difference.

[aluminumcrusher]

Man that thing must takes off pretty slow i guess; with a 16 tooth clutchbell, sounds like it's starting in 2nd gear, but with the internal gear ratio things could work out just fine.

[rcrebel]

I e-mail them and didn't get a respond. BUT!!!! I am a very smart man and kicked in plan two. I e-mailed my buddies at RCCA to see how much they can help. They should be able to get something happening! I'll keep you guys posted.

BTW, I have a lot more phases if this doesn't work

[Mr. WRX]

Originally posted by rcrebel
I e-mail them and didn't get a respond. BUT!!!! I am a very smart man and kicked in plan two. I e-mailed my buddies at RCCA to see how much they can help. They should be able to get something happening! I'll keep you guys posted.

BTW, I have a lot more phases if this doesn't work

Thanks rcrebel for your help! :)
Please keep us up to date info. ;)

[wrenchguy]

I would'ny mind this big thing but it seems too sow to get out of it's own way, and is'nt very nimble. The Savage seemed lke a huge staadium truck the way it scooted around on the video's. Does A-team have any plans to lighten it up a bit before release ?
Is it true it is only powered by a .12 engine? Big waste of money if so.
TTFN, Wrenchguy

[rcrebel]

.12? U must mean .21 by Thunder Tiger. And it would still be good to have a person fom the company to ask questions.

[Skribble]

Factory Team options will be available to lighten it up a bit, and what so slow about 30-35MPH for a 10+ lb. monster? You could always get a Rody modified RB Concepts C5. Lmao.

[rs4-3]

are they going to come out with a team monster GT
that would be nice.

[rcrebel]

Who would thnk a 12lbs monster with tall tires could move 35mph?
Good engine performance

[cbr74]

Not that hard to envision since my Hyper .21 powered Terra Crusher pulls 40 mph and tips the scales at over 13 pounds.

[rcrebel]

not bad at all. But engine has to strain to push that truck, doesn't?

[senvek]

I am certainly no expert in the area, but it would seem to me that speed is quite non-factorial, here. It is conceivable that by changing the spur and cluth bell, you could achieve the speeds you wish, but not without sacrifice. By gaining speed, you may lose desired torque, or over-strain your engine when climbing higher end inclines. I believe the objective in the monster truck arena is to generate high amounts of torque, and force. Bear in mind that, "force equals mass times accelleration." Mass? Not a problem with ANY monster truck. Accelleration is generated by torque. Have you ever tried to pull out uphill in a five speed in fifth gear? I assure you, not even a Mustang Cobra is going to accomplish that with any sense of grace. So, fear not, it is far better that the MGT be able to power up 45 degree inclines without breaking a sweat, than it is that it is unable to keep up with with your Serpent on a tarmac straight. (watch that last turn...its a loo-loo)

[rcrebel]

Good point

[aluminumcrusher]

Hey you guys lets all go and do something better with our life; that truck will not come out until next summer, by then we all will have fallen in love with the savage-21 and all it's hop up's. So for now let's forget that truck and fucus on the present, those things which are here now like the savage-21 and 40mph t-maxx etc. by for now ALUMINUM CRUSHER.

[nascarfreak88]

Hmm, you what would be cool? a .70 powered MGT........ that should solve both the speed and torque! (well accually it might over do it in the toque area, but hey you can never hav toooo much HP!):D:D :D LOL........

any body know how much the Thunder Tiger TK-4 weighs???

Post copyright 2002 Nascarfreak88. All rights reserved.

[fastruck]

the ek4 weighs in at 3200g dry w/o engine, tuned pipe,
(sorry I dont know the actual pounds)

BFT needs at least a o.s 91 heli motor to
be the fastest. :D
or a hyper .21 8 port, any 3bhp .21 will do the trick.

I really think they should go for the kill and put a bad a$$ motor biger and faster than any ek4, 2.5 maxx and crush the compitison. :eek:

just a thought tho. :rolleyes:

Fastruck

[Skribble]

any 3bhp .21 will do the trick. RB Concepts Rody Modified C-5. That'd do it. :)

[fastruck]

RB Concepts Rody Modified C-5. That'd do it

yep it shure will and then some. :)

[rcrebel]

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Where is this truck?!!:mad: :mad: :mad: They will force me to go to HPI if they keep playing with me :mad: I want to see RCCA test drive it. Always after a test drive, the trucks hit the market soon.:mad:

[wrenchguy]

(Qoute) Where is this truck?!!:mad: :mad: :mad: They will force me to go to HPI if they keep playing with me :mad: I want to see RCCA test drive it. Always after a test drive, the trucks hit the market soon.:mad: [/B][/QUOTE]

Hey rcrebel, don't worry about it, just buy the HPI and you will be much happier in the long and short run. The Savage is just a better all around truck and should suit most fine.

[rcrebel]

Well, I guess your right. I can buy both if I wanted. The Savage seens like it will be a big hit!:)

[wrenchguy]

Wow, I wish I had the luxury of buying more than one, I have to pick just 1 though.

[aluminumcrusher]

HEY YOU GUY'S A NEW MONSTER TRUCK IS ON THE WAY IT'S CALLED THE SP- MONSTER TRUCK=SLOW PRODUCTION-MONSTER TRUCK AND THE COMPANY SAID; THEY MIGHT MAKE SPARE PARTS HA HA HA

[Coconut]

My experience with associated is that they will not release a new truck/car until its been well field tested. Lokk at the nitro TC3. Came out and started winning but they tested it along while. I won't look for the monster Gt to be realease until at least Feb. That will be the RTR and hopefully a few months later a team version;which what I will wait for. If you get to have it now;I suggest you buy something else.

[Corey_25]

I think i'll wait to see the reviews on the Monster gt and the hpi savage...i figure the monster gt will be a way better truck though since it is designed by associated...i hear too many people say hpi is crap....

[wrenchguy]

Originally posted by Corey_25
I think i'll wait to see the reviews on the Monster gt and the hpi savage...i figure the monster gt will be a way better truck though since it is designed by associated...i hear too many people say hpi is crap....

Believe what you must, but obviously if you are listening to what others are saying about HPI you don't know for yourself. DONT KNOCK IT TIL YOU TRY IT. All companies are going to have there faults, I believe HPI makes as good or better product than most, and I've owned Traxxas, HPI, Tamiya and spent some time around the rest.
Personally I think the BFT is going to be a backyard basher only, and not going to be very competitve, I like bashing and don't care, but lots of people like to race and the Savage is going to WIN.
Good luck on whatever you purchase.

TTFN, Wrenchguy

[cbr74]

lots of people like to race and the Savage is going to WIN.

Yeah, unless it's on the track with a Dominator. bahahahahaah
:p

[Corey_25]

actually i happen to have an hpi nitro rs4-3 and a super nitro rs4 and i dont like the quality of the hpi kits, dont get me wrong i like them but in my OPINION they arent the best....i happen to like the associated nitro tc3.....just an opinion......not trying to start a fight.....

[wrenchguy]

That's what this forum is all about, people talking about what they like and dislike and getting answers for questions.....The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

[Corey_25]

i'd like to get a new monster truck, since i really like off road better than onroad....its a good thing i have some time to save up for the new monster gt, i just hope it isnt so complicated that i cant work on it....im sure associated will make us one heck of a truck...:D

[Corey_25]

i'd like to get a new monster truck, since i really like off road better than onroad....its a good thing i have some time to save up for the new monster gt, i just hope it isnt so complicated that i cant work on it....im sure associated will make us one heck of a truck...:D

[Corey_25]

sorry for the double post :D

[Skribble]

Yeah, unless it's on the track with a Dominator. bahahahahaah LOL .. Everywhere someone mentions the Savage you pipe in. ;) It's pretty funny though that people believe the Savage would "dominate" the Dominator. :D

[cbr74]

It's pretty funny though that people believe the Savage would "dominate" the Dominator.

You're right.. that is hilarious. Don't think my comments are arbitrary banter.. I own or have owned every vehicle I comment on. I have a Terra Crusher, Dominator, T-Maxx and I HAD a Savage. I also have a Monster GT on order.

The Savage is a good effort by HPI... but it isn't as good a basher as my Terra Crusher nor as good a racer as my Dominator.

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[senvek]

I stated it before, and I stand by it still...everybody keeps comparing apples and oranges. Yes, the Dominator is a great truck, so is the Savage, but they are far from the same cast. The Dom has about an inch and a half lower ground clearance. Thus, a steadier ride on a groomed clay track. However, let is take both vehicles across a rocky, pile of broken cinder blocks. The Dominator will be grounded before you get 1 foot in. Understandably, that is the appeal of the MGT (this forum is for the MGT isn't it? Doink!) The MGT is a Hybrid between the racing stance of the Awesome Dominator, and the high ground clearance of the Monster purists (TXT-1, X-Factor, Cold, etc..) The T-Maxx will always be a formidable foe, because it has successfully incorporated speed and high ground clearance, and therefore it should come as no huge surprise that it did not perform as well vs. the Dom. on the clean, groomed, and well maintained packed track. They are two different breeds...a three legged Greyhound will always outrun a pit bull, and yet doesn't stand a chance in a cage with a pit bull in dentures.

[wrenchguy]

Originally posted by cbr74
You're right.. that is hilarious. Don't think my comments are arbitrary banter.. I own or have owned every vehicle I comment on. I have a Terra Crusher, Dominator, T-Maxx and I HAD a Savage. I also have a Monster GT on order.

The Savage is a good effort by HPI... but it isn't as good a basher as my Terra Crusher nor as good a racer as my Dominator.

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Nov/200211231022739327553834.jpg
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i'M CURIOUS, HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO GET AND GET RID OF A SAVAGE THAT HAS ONLY BEEN RELEASED FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF NOW ? I DIDNT SEE A SAVAGE IN YOUR PIC, ARE YOU SURE YOU ARENT A SMOKE BLOWER ?

[cbr74]

i'M CURIOUS, HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO GET AND GET RID OF A SAVAGE THAT HAS ONLY BEEN RELEASED FOR ABOUT A WEEK AND A HALF NOW ? I DIDNT SEE A SAVAGE IN YOUR PIC, ARE YOU SURE YOU ARENT A SMOKE BLOWER ?

You didn't see a Savage in my pic? Are you sure you're not blind?
It's the shiny new looking one being dwarfed by my Terra Crusher.

I got a Savage from a global distributor from the initial U.S. shipment. Kept it for two days, was not at all impressed with it. Now it's on its way to Bruce at Xtreme Racing. I believe he plans on some carbon fiber side plates for it.

Tell me... what would possibly be the point of blowing smoke about a Savage in a thread created for the Monster GT?

[wrenchguy]

dont get all steamed up, I wasnt out to ruffle your feathers there guy, as for the thread, I was just curious why you all think the bft is going to be top s**t.

[cbr74]

I'm not steamed, I'm amused.

As for the MGT.. AE has a solid track record of fine vehicles... so we are expecting nothing less with their latest offering.

[rcrebel]

Cbr74, I've been trying to tell him that for about as long as this forum has been going. AE has top notch poducts, in small race truck form(RC10GT), they will be better as monsters. I expect more from this monster. I asked workers at Wild Hobbies about the MGT. They said they are delayng the sales for a reason. I believe it is to do test to make sure U are getting a good monster and your money worth. I'am getting more info daily. Will keep posted.

[wrenchguy]

Allright already, call off the attack dogs. I can see u guys are stuck on this thing. For your sake I hope it is as good as you expect it to be, but from my standpoint it doesnt look like it will be. Did ever occur to you that the reason they are holding off sales is to avoid competing against the new TMAXX and the SAVAGE sales. I might not be 100% correct but I'm sure that it has something to do with it.

[cbr74]

I believe they're taking their time to make sure it is just right before they release it. I could be wrong. But look at how long they took on the NTC3... forever it seemed like. But when they did finally release it.. wow, it was awesome. (Yes, I have one of those too) :D

[wrenchguy]

Tell me what you do for a living so I can have one of everything too. Right now all my money goes to diapers ( not for me though, even though you hurt my feelings and made me cry earlier ).

[rcrebel]

not for me though, even though you hurt my feelings and made me cry earlier ).
LOL:D , its all good, we're just civil people sharing thoughts. We all have different thoughts.

[Jamie]

I'm also going to get a Monster GT though I have one concern. Anyone have any thoughts on the Monster GT's right angle gears used to get the power into the trans. and allow the side ways mounting of the engine. One more set of gears to wear out, fail and use up valuable power.:confused:

[Mr. WRX]

Originally posted by Jamie
I'm also going to get a Monster GT though I have one concern. Anyone have any thoughts on the Monster GT's right angle gears used to get the power into the trans. and allow the side ways mounting of the engine. One more set of gears to wear out, fail and use up valuable power.:confused:

I'm sure AE engineers thought about it, hopefully they'll use durable material. Yeah, I'm looking forward getting a Monster GT...is gonna be a top notch! :D

[Corey_25]

I see the pic with the savage in it, im curious as to why you got rid of it....does your terra crusher and the other monsters out perform the savage? did you not like the setup? any info would be greatly appreciated....you must have good reasons since you have 3 other monsters.....

[Corey_25]

Does anyone know if the Monster Gt will come with the support euipment, like a glow starter, fuel bottle, fuel etc?

[rcrebel]

Yes it will. Bottle, Glow igniter, charger, and tools. That some of the $500.00 price.

[Mr. WRX]

Originally posted by rcrebel
Yes it will. Bottle, Glow igniter, charger, and tools. That some of the $500.00 price.

Say, how did ya know all this information? :D
Any latest info that you might wanna share? :)

[rcrebel]

I'll find the article but here are some great pics: http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/nchic0201.htm

U will find it here first for buy: http://www.autohausrc.com/category.asp?catid=KITS&count=1

Quote"Happy Halloween!!! Hope everyone has a safe holiday. Job update. Let's just say that working in the R&D department puts me in touch with some of the COOLEST ideas around. So far I've seen some sweet prototypes of projects (no need to ask...it's ain't gonna happen!!!!) Team Associated is doing. I know I can say we are doing some testing on stuff with the BFT. That truck rocks!!!! SO much fun to drive. And it's BIG, too!!!! Put it next to a T-Maxx and the T-Maxx looks TINY!!!! It has some other really cool features, too. It's gonna be a great truck to have... I do have to say there is ONE downside to this job....sitting next to Barry Baker all day!!!! Hahaha, just kidding Barry. He's a great guy, if you keep him in check!!! heh heh."

There is tons more, but I have to find it.

[Mr. WRX]

Originally posted by rcrebel
I'll find the article but here are some great pics: http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/nchic0201.htm

U will find it here first for buy: http://www.autohausrc.com/category.asp?catid=KITS&count=1

Quote"Happy Halloween!!! Hope everyone has a safe holiday. Job update. Let's just say that working in the R&D department puts me in touch with some of the COOLEST ideas around. So far I've seen some sweet prototypes of projects (no need to ask...it's ain't gonna happen!!!!) Team Associated is doing. I know I can say we are doing some testing on stuff with the BFT. That truck rocks!!!! SO much fun to drive. And it's BIG, too!!!! Put it next to a T-Maxx and the T-Maxx looks TINY!!!! It has some other really cool features, too. It's gonna be a great truck to have... I do have to say there is ONE downside to this job....sitting next to Barry Baker all day!!!! Hahaha, just kidding Barry. He's a great guy, if you keep him in check!!! heh heh."

There is tons more, but I have to find it.

Just curious, where did you get this quote from?

[tmaxxinbud]

hey,

I was just wandering where you people heard of the 500$ price? Not saying its wrong, but i have looked all over for it, and not found anything about it. Also, when is it supposed to come out? I read **************** review and they said late November. Its now December 1st, and i still havent found anything, no price or date. My decision between monster trucks is down to Monster GT, Savage, and Titan. They are all awesome sounding, but which really has the best suspension, engine, handling, etc. for a person who just does every type of bashing. Jumping, any off-road obstable, streets, and an occasional race. My truck needs to have AWESOME suspension, power, and reliability. Please help in any way possible.

[wrenchguy]

I could'nt wait for the BFT so I bought a Savage instead, it handles great and has plenty of power. Probably not a racer though, too heavey and too long. But great for everyday play. I wish I could have waited to see the BFT in person but you know how toys are, gotta have it now.

[rcrebel]

Sorry it been a while seen I touched the computer. I have to find it agaian. The quote was from a guy who did the driving i the video. And Wrenchguy, the BFT may have been the better truck, but like you said the wait is kill'n sells. But those that wait shall be happy when they get it

[Jamie]

Originally posted by tmaxxinbud
hey,

I was just wandering where you people heard of the 500$ price? Not saying its wrong, but i have looked all over for it, and not found anything about it. Also, when is it supposed to come out? I read **************** review and they said late November. Its now December 1st, and i still havent found anything, no price or date. My decision between monster trucks is down to Monster GT, Savage, and Titan. They are all awesome sounding, but which really has the best suspension, engine, handling, etc. for a person who just does every type of bashing. Jumping, any off-road obstable, streets, and an occasional race. My truck needs to have AWESOME suspension, power, and reliability. Please help in any way possible.

January's issue of Radio Control NITRO shows the Monster GT at $499.00 US.:cool:

[tmaxxinbud]

well, does it say anything else about the truck other than its price?? such as release date. thanks

[Jamie]

It just said that they expect to test it very soon. :) No release date yet.:(

[coward]

Originally posted by Jamie
It just said that they expect to test it very soon. :) No release date yet.:(

hmm.. that could mean the prototype testing.. then they would build a production version and do more testing on that. some changes and modifications.. back into testing...

this is guess but i would think its at least 2-3 months away. unless they are testing the prod version already? but all indications say its still at prototype stage.

[Jamie]

This is a magazine (Radio Control NITRO) that is hoping to test the Monster GT so it could be a preproduction or early production model. Let's hope.

[Coconut]

FDrom the video's released it loks like the protype has been in testing. Best anyone has gotten from Assoc. is estimated release in mid-Jan. but from their record on releases;don't hold your breath. They apparently have already worked on a team chassis(blue;1oz lighter) and a normal configuration team tuned pipe. Since Pro-line released their 40 series maxx tires and associted uses pr-line tires;Im thiking that's not a coincidence.

[birdy233]

Any word on release date yet???

[tripplefatty]

what is the (hp) on the motor...what kind of drives are on it..sliders or dog bones..OR..cvd's..LOL ...that would be nice..what kind of motor waranty will it have???if it has the same waranty as there rtr gt then ill take one(that is a great motor..good power & good top speed..put about 10 gallons threw that motor)...maybe that why they gave that motor the waranty they did!!! You guys/girls are doing great job..I hope it is better then the t maxx..(witch i no it will be)..I think thats why there is so many tmaxx out there, is because there is nothing out there that can do all that the t can do..if this truck is anything like there other kits or rtr's TRAXXAS better come up with some thing better then there 2.5 maxx..& if the sport maxx is your answer then the tmaxx will be a thing of the past..(nothing against traxxas or the tmaxxes..i have had alot of there stuff but..if you put traxxas stuff up against associated stuff,(off road or on road products)you can see that associated makes a better product..Im not talking about sm maxxes,because they(traxxas)didnt make that truck ue did..

[DCLXVI]

Seems like I'm the only one that likes TTR in here... :)
The BFT will smoke the T-maxx, that won't be that hard, the maxx is so small it's rediculous...
Next car I'm gonna get is a EK-4, I have better TTR parts support here...and nothing will get close the .70 engine for torque, speed is of the lesser value, 25-30 MPH will suffice.
If I ever go serious into elec., the only reason would be to get a TXT-1, but on hte other hand there is always the Mad Force and the XTM, but I don't think I can get a XTM here and talk about bad parts support, shipping evey broken part across the Atlantic! LOL!!!

/DCLXVI

Must start and post coherent posts, thats no. 2 on my list of things to begin with, right after starting the list of things that I must begin with... ;)

[tripplefatty]

as for the bft beating a 2.5 maxx,I had a 2.5 & they very fast...i dont no how fast the bgt is, but i have out run a friends full sm with a hyper 21 in it....so let me tell you that the 2.5 is not slow...for a .15,...... that truck is fast ...as for the mf been there..nice truck, but im not into trait axle trucks(the mad force is VERY,VERY fast truck,(different monster)I dont no about the ek4 with there.70, but i no i would never get one,just a nother mp with a bigger motor to me..as for the txt-1 , they are very slow..if you want put a lot of money into it then it would be O.K(unless you want crawl with it)you should go with the xtm truck..same set up but nitro..2 speed with a 247 motor..should be ok

[Coconut]

I don't think we have to worry about the T Maxx being a thing of the past. Even with alot of Supermaxx guys it has spawned a whole new interest in small block racing. Traxxas just has a knack of hitting the right spot in it's market. I think the EK-4 got off to a terrible start with it's poor pre-testing. But of course they are making the NGT RTR for Associated and I bet they will learn alot. Associated just has the people with experience in engineering and developing great Rc vehicles. The RTR seems to be a vehicle targeted at the curreent price range with the basics for a better higher end vehicle.

[amazeing]

do you think it will do 40?

[tripplefatty]

If the after market didnt get behind the tmaxx it would be a thing of the past(how many stock tmaxxes race????) & traxxas did get lucky when they put out the tmaxx..the reason all the other trucks havent took off is because the after market world is set on the tmaxx..& why people say they that looks like a maxx...is because the manufacturers of these trucks no that & they want some of pie..when a new design comes out,people say that not going to work or that video wasnt any good..Thats because every one is under the maxx spell......it took me a long time to get out of that spell..(yes they make a good truck...but after market makes it what it is )I think the associated truck is going to be that truck to take a few people out of that spell... & the after market will attack the bft, after all its associated...as for the people racing there tmaxxes i would go with native racing..set up over any sm I had a native truck that i would put up against any sm..ANY .21 & weighed less the a stock maxx...nice(if you can look past the starter set up then you will have one great race truck)...NATIVE ALL THE WAY IF YOUR GOING TO RACE
jamie

[tripplefatty]

I would say yes it would hit over 40..It may not have the bottom end with those big tires, but ill say it will do 40 all day..(if you want more bottom end then just put the proline 40 serious tires on her ...the rims seem to be the same size as the tmaxx...O'no not a nother clone)..LOL

[rcrebel]

I think U are right about it hitting 40 mph. The best example I can think of is the Terra Crusher. Stock it is 12lbs. 22in. long 17in. wide, .18 moving 32 mph. With a .21 it hits well over 40 mph. Monster GT is same size with .21 made be racing pros.

[Coconut]

Never seen a native truck. I would go the JT racing chassis because the Dominator is the dominate truck in big block racing and looks only to get more so with the new center diff and rear brakes. The aftermarket just follows popularity. Everyone has an opinion.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

At the Chicago Hobby Show the AE reps said it goes 32-33 mph is geared for power not high speeds.

[tripplefatty]

the reason the doms are so good on the track is because there cg are lower than the tmaxx,(using a 1/8th scale chassis)so they can corner better(the jt looks good to)..The native kit is nice because they move alot of thing around like the tank(they put in the front so it is more even ) If you want to see what it looks like go to the sm page & look at there race truck that they made,the way that sm did there chassis lay out is like the native set up??very nice

[tripplefatty]

did they gear it that way so it would have good bottom end(those tires are huge..you would think that 40 wouldnt be a problem) at the show did they say anything about a team KIT & what mite come on it(are those shocks coming on the rtr trucks)

[DCLXVI]

Originally posted by tripplefatty
did they gear it that way so it would have good bottom end(those tires are huge..you would think that 40 wouldnt be a problem) at the show did they say anything about a team KIT & what mite come on it(are those shocks coming on the rtr trucks)

Big tires = lower bottom end = higher speed

/DCLXVI

[pistole]

What DCLXVI posted is correct.

All things being equal , a smaller tire/wheel will result in better acceleration but a lower top speed and vice versa.

The manufacturers usually play around with the gear ratios vis the wheel size in order to place the power band of the engine in the most appropriate place.

Bye and safe runnings.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Originally posted by tripplefatty
did they gear it that way so it would have good bottom end(those tires are huge..you would think that 40 wouldnt be a problem) at the show did they say anything about a team KIT & what mite come on it(are those shocks coming on the rtr trucks)

I asked for the gear ratios but they didnt know at that time. They said it is geared for low end power.
Another person asked if it would wheelie reps said no.
Didnt ask about a team kit but they did have the blue light weight chassis, but its a 12 pound truck whats a couple less ounces going to do.

[tripplefatty]

just would like to no about a team kit,because i have no need for any more radio gear,when associated comes out with a team truck ..i thinking lighter chassis,cvds ,alu skids,foc,different tires & rims,alu shocks & caps (i think there team kit would be more for the racer..I think the monster gt that is the (rtr form) is more the basher)

[Coconut]

They ahve also said that they will come out with a standard type tuned pipe;holes already there in rock guards. The team chassis is only 1oz lighter they said but don't know if of a different material etc. They also advised somone at the show that real resivors will be available;I personally don't want them.

[tripplefatty]

so those shocks are not coming on the rtr kits ..if this is so ill go for the team kit...

[Coconut]

No from waht they said they are fake;just for looks I guess. Question is will there be a team truck? That'snot a given since the highest demand for Mts is for RTR;whether you or I want one. I personally though the terra Crusher and mega force would hurt T sales but dealers say no. Tower having over 2000 on pre-order says traxxas knows what they are doing. My guess is that the MGT will hurt Savage sales more than the T maxx.

[tripplefatty]

well went out today & got a tc & if all have to do is put in 21 & no other mods for the power of a 21..Then ill be :D
Im not looking to go race ....more of a basher(so tc it is)sorry associated i cant wait...im no your truck will kick a$$ , but its a tc for now..

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

Originally posted by tripplefatty
just would like to no about a team kit,because i have no need for any more radio gear,when associated comes out with a team truck ..i thinking lighter chassis,cvds ,alu skids,foc,different tires & rims,alu shocks & caps (i think there team kit would be more for the racer..I think the monster gt that is the (rtr form) is more the basher)

It does come with aluminum skids BTW

And yeah plastic shocks dont belong on a monster truck:)

[birdy233]

That sucks!!!!

More news on the MGT at ****************
Release date is Spring 2003

Spring!!! that 3 or 4 months from now!!! Damn Associated!!!

[tripplefatty]

it comes with half a aluminum skid(there not a full skid)That may not come on the rtr either...

[rc man37689]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I CANT WAIT FOR THIS TO COME OUT . WHEN I FIND OUT THE EXACT DATE WHEN IT COMES OUT THE DAY BEFORE ILL GO TO THE HOBBY SHOP AND SLEEP BY IT IN A TENT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

J/K lol im not going that crazy over it
but i still want it badly

[rcrebel]

I hear rumor, this is a rumor, that the Team Version of this truck will have a .50 or bigger engine:D

[Coconut]

rumor? sounds more like gossip. I would think that a team version will not come with a engine. If they can bring this thing in at 12lbs;with it size and the amount of aluminum then it will weigh just alittle more than the Savage and way bigger. OFNA is releasing a longer titan that will be about the same size. Bet that spring date is good news to the OFNA and HPI as I bet their sales would drop like alead weight if it were released now. I can wait as I just got a Dominator for Christmas. Must say I'm impressed with it. Should be a great race truck. But I still want a Associated. They know more about off-road than OFNA and HPI combined.

[Techspert]

Originally posted by Coconut
rumor? sounds more like gossip.


Not gossip. I believe I read that in an article in RC/Extreme or RC/Racer (???) magazine. It was an article with Cliff Lett. He is a major contributor in the design of the Monster GT. He states something to the affect that the traverse engine setup is not race oriented but is reliable. He talks about the .50 as a future possibility in the GT and states this truck was designed with quality and ruggedness to handle a .21 or better. Not like the T-Maxx that stripped more parts than a Vegas prostitute.

:p


I'm waiting for it... I have my EK-4 for sale on Ebay to fund it.

[Techspert]

Originally posted by Coconut
rumor? sounds more like gossip.


Not gossip. I believe I read that in an article in RC/Extreme or RC/Racer (???) magazine. It was an article with Cliff Lett. He is a major contributor in the design of the Monster GT. He states something to the affect that the traverse engine setup is not race oriented but is reliable. He talks about the .50 as a future possibility in the GT and states this truck was designed with quality and ruggedness to handle a .21 or better. Not like the T-Maxx that stripped more parts than a Vegas prostitute.

:p


I'm waiting for it... I have my EK-4 for sale on Ebay to fund it.

[Coconut]

Sounds like about the same type of rumors;if you prefer;we heard when they were developing the NTC. A .50 ruinged engine really wouldn't be a good choice for anything but bashing and even then would require a new truck in my opinion. When you look at the team pipe and chassis that have been anounced;I think that indicates the way they are going. I rellay think that the demand for the RTR will have the team team version of the .21 pretty far off as it is. So we will see;but i wouldn't hold my breath.

[QUAKE&SHAKE]

I read about the .50 engine too in XtremeRC with the Lett interview.
They also say there are plastic gears inside.
Plastic gears dont belong on a truck this size.

[raderrustler]

Personally I think its a shame that associated released pictures of the BFT and then keep kicking back its release date, 6 months from time of press release to production release? OFNA will have two more monster trucks by then....lol. I wonder what their reasoning is? Are they going to do a big release at RCX or what I am just curious. btw I couldn't wait either and now I have a X-factor to go with the Mad Force and new Maxx. Just venting thats all.
Randy

[birdy233]

I'm with you, I love Associated stuff, but come on!! I did the same, bought a new Maxx and a Savage, but I will get the AE when it comes out, it looks huge!! I just wish they would come out sooner!! I will have to be the first one in line, as the first 100 or so will have the flag paint scheme!

[Coconut]

I rather them test it and get it right;which assoc. has a habit of doing. I imagine that working with another company is also slowing it down. The same happened with the NTC. In fact they missed the Tc nationals because of What I think is getting it right. I don't think they would have missed the Christmas seasonif it wasn't for testing;testing;testing. A guy that works for Assoc. advised that they have done alot more than just testing in stock configuration. Also I expect thsat some of their drivers have been busy with traveling to national;worlds to helpout much with development lately.

[nascarfreak88]

I read earlier that this MGT won't beable to pull a wheelie? What kind of monster truck cant pull a wheelie? crap. I'm more of a torque fan than a top speed/end fan. A truck that takes off and quickly tops out at 30, is a heck of alot more occupieing than a truck that dose 40 but take forever to get there.

Big trucks need big engines! a Savage- has the same wheel and body size as the T-maxx (the treds are slightly bigger), and it has a 21. now the MGT is bigger than the Savage (it may weigh the same, but is still larger) shold have more than a .25! The X-Factor had a .247! now thw Titian (thats the ornge thing right?) has a .25. Its like the old maxx with the crappy underpowered TRX .15. And now it has the TRX 2.5, that can give most entery level .21's a run fo the money! the thing kicks butt! It has the power that will NEVER GET OLD!!! a boreing truck is one that aint go no go-power aka torque. It took 2 years for Traxxas to build the TRX 2.5 and look at the outcome. now imagine if Assoc. applied the same power principles as the TRX 2.5 to what ever .21 they plan to put in there and that thing would be sweet. And how come assoc. has to elsewhere to get the power? Traxxas didn't. Like another saying goes- If your going to do it right, do it your self!! In the T-maxx book it spacificly states to don't even waste your money on an aftermarket air filter- it wont do ANY good, the stock one is the BEST of the BEST. Same with the pipe, my LHS tried several pipes on the 2.5, none of them made a difference. that engine is the most powerful .15 in the industry! and thats what sells-POWER!

Attn. Assoc.- dont skimp in this dept. put your excelent design qualities and the best powerful engine there is (not the most powerfull like the TTR .70 thing) that BEST suits the MGT and you'll have an award winning MT.

Post copyright 2002 Nascarfreak88. Allrights reserved.

[rcrebel]

I believe that is why the team version will be 4-stroke. .50

[Coconut]

Associated isn't in the engine business and never has been. Traxxas only was able to come out with that engine because of the position they are in from the first maxx. Just the cost of the plastic moulds is very expensive to make one of these trucks. One reason many of the aftermarket makers use alumunum is they can't afford the cost. The money is in the RTR market at a reasonable cost not for the limited all out performance market which is small by comparison. OFNA is just the supplier in the US. Looking at it they seem to have come out much better engine wise than HPI has. Probaly the only way they could come out with this truck is their relationship with TTR. My hope is that their success in the RTR market with this truck is such that they can come out with a more performance version later without engine or radio. That's probably as long way off tho.

[DCLXVI]

From what I heard, the TTR .21 engine is quite good, and on the plus side for Team Associated is that TTR is one of the BIGGEST R/C companies...so getting a good relashionship with them might prove good in the long run for both TTR and AE...

/DCLXVI

[fasterthanyours]

GRRRR...Anyone nail down a release date yet? Feb03 or Spring03?

Mike

[NitroSafari]

I picked up a CML new imports flyer (UK) n it says its available early 2003 :D The sooooooooooner the better!

JIM

[drader]

My buddy and I got tired of the drifting release date, so he bought a Titan and I got a dirt cheap Monster Pirate ($359 rtr). We are both EXTREMELY happy with our purchases - sorry AE. Maybe this time next year.

[Lordkett]

Does anyone know which issue of XtremeRC it is when they interview Cliff Lett and he talks about the Monster GT.

[speedydave]

I know the February issue of RC Car has it...page 36. If you look at the RC Car issue, be sure to check out page 102, too! ;) :D

[Lordkett]

Cool thank for the info.

[outfitter540]

i dnt know ifany posted this but RCCA has a vid of the BFT in the videos section

[morfracerX]

Has there been any word on when and how much the bft will cost? last i read it was sometime in march, sorry i know u guys have seen this post like 60 times.

[Lordkett]

There has not been an official price announced as far as I know. It should cost $500 or less though.

[aluminumcrusher]

HEY YOU GUYS I WAS ASLEEP FOR A LONG TIME AND I REALIZE IT'S A NEW YEAR DID TEAM-A RELEASE THAT BFT YET?

[NitroSafari]

No still waitin :mad: :mad: :mad:

JIM

[morfracerX]

Thanks Kett

[Kenny123]

any new info. on the BFT?

[metal gear]

yeah, the AE Monster GT or "BFT" is a Thunder Tiger. Here are some pics from the Swedish TT (Thunder Tiger) importer of the new "MT-A"

[metal gear]

actually, the pics are right here: Thunder Tiger MT-A (http://http://db.mallverkstan.net/ca/news/FMPro?-db=ca%5fnews.fp5&-format=record%5fdetail.html&-lay=cgi&-sortfield=date&-sortorder=descend&-max=10&-recid=32772&-findall=)

[DCLXVI]

Originally posted by metal gear
actually, the pics are right here: Thunder Tiger MT-A (http://http://db.mallverkstan.net/ca/news/FMPro?-db=ca%5fnews.fp5&-format=record%5fdetail.html&-lay=cgi&-sortfield=date&-sortorder=descend&-max=10&-recid=32772&-findall=)

Tat link does not work, but this sould do...

http://db.mallverkstan.net/ca/news/FMPro?-db=ca%5fnews.fp5&-format=record%5fdetail.html&-lay=cgi&-sortfield=date&-sortorder=descend&-max=10&-recid=32772&-findall=

/DCLXVI

[metal gear]

lol :D

I entered the address, but I forgot to check it and is partially correct. Yeah, click the link above.