Duratrax Evader BX Buggy

[Newbeme]

I believe they are truck rims. My daughter has the Evader ST and I put them on her truck and Then I tried them on my son's evader BX. They are a little larger than the buggy tires, but they have worked well for us and held up great. My children run on pavement about 60% of the time and you can barely see any wear on the tires.

[Wizardman_1]

Im looking for a step pin tire that will last a while, or any buggy/truck tire that is made for dusty conditions and some street running. As for the glue its called CA you can get it at your lhs.

[Knightsquad]

Thanks Wizard!

I'm familiar with Ca. Use to use it building planes.

Thanks buddy

Pete

[Knightsquad]

Hey guys!

How is everyone? I went to the LHS earlier today and bought some tires, rims,brushes and springs for the brushes.

Well I put the tires on the rims and ran some CA into the joint on both sides of tire but I'm not sure if that is correct way or not. Seems like tires are pulling away at some spots. Is there a trick to this?

The brushes: They were to wide to fit in the slot!! Is the Evader motor some weird size? I sanded them to fit but didn't like doing that. Is there a size I have to look for when buying brushes?

The brush springs: Well how could I go wrong with simple little brush springs?
The one spring went on fine but the other one was kind of like upside down or twisted wrong. When I tried to put it on the tang that you push over the clip was on the bottom! Does that make sense?
I thought maybe there was a left and right but no matter waht I did I couldn't use the one. SO I used one of the older ones along with a new one.
It works ok but they must be for a specifict motor or something huh?

Any input guys would surely help!! LOL

Pete

[Megazone23]

Hey, Pete -- I've come in at the tail end of this, but it sounds like you're still running the Photon Speed motor. I ran into the same problem you did with the brush springs. The LHS gave you stock springs, and the Photon Speed is a modified motor. You need to get modified springs (at least this is the way I remember my conversation with my LHS going). Both of the springs should be wound exactly the same way on the Photon Speed. I have a 19T Chameleon 2 Pro (great motor, btw) and it's a stock motor with laydown brushes, so I went through the same thing.

As for the brushes, you need to make sure you get stand up brushes. It sounds like they gave you lay down brushes. If you're looking at the motor with the endbell at the top and the pinion pointing down, stand up brushes are literally standing up on the narrow side like a book in a bookshelf. Laydown brushes are also literally laying down on the wide side like a book on the coffee table.

I hope this helps.

[Knightsquad]

Mega,

Hey buddy! Thanks for the quick resonse! Imagine how long it would take to learn all of the things we do on the internet WITHOUT IT!
With people like you and everyone else out here I'd still be at square one learning the very basics. I appreciate all of your help!

You're a %100 correct. I got laydown brushes and the wrong springs!
I'll have to talk to the LHS owner and show him this morning. He can learn something also because he wasn't sure of the difference either. LOL

Thanks again Mega
Pete

[Wizardman_1]

You should start looking for a new motor when you go back to your lhs.

[Megazone23]

Glad my misadventures could be of service! :) I agree with Wiz -- short of breaking things, I would look at getting a better motor. The difference between the Photon Speed and my Chameleon 2 Pro was amazing, and I was impressed as it was with the Photon Speed compared to my Radio Shack Lightning, which is the fastest consumer-grade RC car I've ever had. But as good as it is, it just can't compare to hobby-grade cars like our Evaders.

[elecracr]

Hi..

[microrcdude]

Hi..
wow. thats the shortest post ever!

[elecracr]

Haha, yea and the most pointless. Well, lately iv been playing with my boat alot and customizing it. But today, when i went to make a run my esc wouldnt turn on when it worked prefectly, so i guess the evader is going to get all my attention for a while being i havent got the money to buy another esc for my boat. It makes me mad, because i have no idea what went wrong, im like 8 cells under the limit, its water cooled and water proof. Who knows. And it didnt smoke or blow up, it just wont turn on. Wierd. But i guess for a while the evader will be my only rc to run.

[Wizardman_1]

Maybe it has some wires loose inside of it?

[elecracr]

Yea, thats what i thought, but the problem is the esc is sealed up with silicone and some other stuff. I emailed the company and i think it will be covered by some kind of warranty. This esc can handle 26 cells and i have only ever ran 12 on it. I may try some 12 cell action on the evader bx if i come upon a motor that can handle it.

[elecracr]

Well, i have decided that in a few months im going to start my project on my brushless evader, first bulletproofing the car and then getting the brushless system. Im not planning on having the lightest car around, im planning on making as strong as possible though. It may take me all the way untill next summer to get enough money for the brushless system, as im going to bulletproof it over the next few months and around christmas. I would start the bulletproofing process now, but i have a big dance coming up at school and such, and girls arent cheap haha. Im hoping to have my whole thing done by next summer with a lehner 4200 and i havent decided on a controller yet. Im going to probobly be running it on some 8 cell packs then too, which should make for insane speeds, and then an occational 12 cell run for speed.

[Wizardman_1]

I finally got some time to run my car today since mon-fri i have football practice and yesterday i went to the fair. I was just driving around on my track then it came to a stop all of a sudden, i went back inside and found some of the wire windings loose? Some strands of wires were inside of the motor that came off the armature, weird. While my battery was charging back up i went outside and made a dirt oval inside my track, now my track is a 2 in 1. I can run the regular set up or a dirt oval. There are 3 set ups now, dirt oval, regular track, or just jumping.

[elecracr]

So did you fix the motor, you can probobly try to rewind the motor, but more than likely you will atleast need a new armature. A rock probobly got inside the motor and caused it the break the wire.

[pudder]

Rocks tend to get in motors. :( I've had it happen to me before. Best thing to do is buy a new armature if you have a good motor can, or just buy a whole new motor.

[Wizardman_1]

I think that the mounting screws were in too long? Not sure, there were some windings around the screws and only the bottom part of the armature, maybe a rock got wedged in between the screw and armature. It worked fine afterward but then the comm died so i need to get a new armature anyway, I also wasnt running a motor guard cause i decided to take off my fan. Looks like i need to make an order to tower again.

[elecracr]

If the mounting screws were too long, im sure the motor would have went out on the first run.

[Wizardman_1]

Probly a rock got wedged in the bottom of the can or something.

[elecracr]

Yea, thats what it sounds like to me.

[elecracr]

Well, after running my car pretty hard today i was looking it over once done, and realized i cracked my two rear A-arms, just the inner webbing on them, nothing that will keep me from running. Im putting in an application at my local hobby shop so hopefully i can get a weekend job there for a while.

[Wizardman_1]

I havent had a chance to run cause of practice, where is everybody else at?

[elecracr]

I dont know? Tommorow i may fiddle around with some aluminum and see if can start making some parts to begin bulletproofing my car.

[Knightsquad]

Elec, Wizard, all of you!

Hey guys I miss you all! I know it's been a while but we took another direct hit with this last Hurricane and this one really finished up what Francis left behind. Took a lot of shingles and felt paper so we got a lot of water damage inside. Need new cielings, walls, rugs, some beds were thrown out so you can just imagine. MAN did this one scream through here!!!! Sounded like a jet engine outside the house all night with someone playing with the throttle all night! Really scary this time but we made it safe so that's cool.

Juts wanted to touch base with you all to let you know I'm still alive and everythings ok(well kind of !) lol

Talk to you all soon! I'll post some Hurricane damage pics on my web site soon! http://www.pbase.com/ralosa

Pete aka (Knightsquad)

[elecracr]

Well, my house is finally together after isabel last year at this time, 85 foot oak tree onto house, second story all got water damage.

[Wizardman_1]

Have any of you guys tried the tower hobbies stock motor?

[elecracr]

No, but i think its based off of some older racing motors.

[Knightsquad]

Hey guys!

How is everybody? I think I have a slight problem with one of my sons buggy I was hoping I can get some feedback from you experienced guys!

OK you know I got three buggies a few ago. The one buggy in question has more time on it than the other two. If I pick up one of the two with less time on it and hold it in the center under the motor let's say and spin one tire with my finger of course the other tire spins in the opposite direction but it sounds real smooth, feels real smooth, no funny noises coming from anywhere.
This happens on both of the buggies that have less time on them and no adjustmenst on my part have been made yet. I'm figuring this is factory settings and this is the way it should be.

The one buggy that has more time on it if you remeber I had to replace one of the dog bones and I made a few adjustments to differentials AND the slipper clutch. When I rotate one of the wheels on this car I get a weird click-click-clicking kind of sound. Actually sounds like it's coming from the gear-box but I'm not sure. Shouldn't be anything wrong with gear-box already should there? My son realy hasn't had and major crashes or anything yet as we are still just messing sround on the streets still.

So I guess my question is: What steps do you take to adjust everything kind of back to factory settings so everything is jiving just right? Do you adjust differentials BEFORE slipper or does that matter? SHOULD any gears turn while holding buggy up and turning any tires?

Sorry for such a big post but I need to get the younger sons buggy
Tuned UP! LOL
Thanks guys I appreciate all your help
Pete

[pudder]

Your diff may need a rebuild. Try cleaning it, relubing, flipping the rings and putting it back together. Also examine your diff balls for uneven wear and rings for wear as well.

[guver]

Here is how to adjust them,

Lock slipper clutch down so it won't slip.
Hold 1 wheel and spur gear from moving while trying to turn the other wheel. It shouldn't turn easy at all. It should be very hard to turn (this is the diff slipping which should never happen)
After that adjust slipper clutch backed off maybe 1/4-1/2 turn or to desired tightness.
Do this by holding a wheel and the spur gear again and you'll get a feel of how tite you want the slipper clutch in addition to being able to see the disk slipping.

[Knightsquad]

Pudder,

Ya think it should need a rebuild after only 15 or so runs? Sounds kind of soon doesn't it? I'll open it up and have a look. Thanks for info.

Thanks Guver! I'll adjust them after I open it up and put it back together.

Pete

[elecracr]

Ok, i seriously doubt you need a rebuild, it probobly just needs to be tightened. Look in the manual on how to tighten the differential. It loosens every once in a while, just take the dogbone out, and tighten it with an allen wrench.

[Knightsquad]

I'll have to check it out. I just don't understand what actually happens by tightening the differentials. I mean I understand the slipper but what actually happens when you tighten the allen screw inside there?

I didn't quite understand Guvers post about this part:
""Lock slipper clutch down so it won't slip.
Hold 1 wheel and spur gear from moving while trying to turn the other wheel. It shouldn't turn easy at all. It should be very hard to turn (this is the diff slipping which should never happen) ""

Is that just a test to see if the differential are slipping?

Again, I appreciate it guys

Pete

[guver]

Yes, kinda. You lock the slipper down cuz it is supposed to slip first and when you turn the wheels it would make it impossible to check the diff setting with the slipper slipping. So it's a temporary tightening. When the diff slips it is the diff balls sraping or sliding on thier pads or rings instead of the normal rolling operation.

It's kinda easier to do it than to tell how to do it.

[Wizardman_1]

I havent ran my bx for about a month and a half now, no money to buy a new motor, one good thing was that it was homecoming this weekend, we won the game 56-28 or something like that i cant remember. We're now guarranteed playoffs spot and the JV team is undefeated. Yesterday was pretty tight too, went to homecoming with a german foreign exchange student. Can't wait to get my class ring too. Hope you guys are havin fun.

[michel-2000]

I just rebuilded one almost from scratch !!!! Very nice buggy...and very fast, even with the stock motor...
This morning, I ran it with its brand new street tires, and, BANG, hitted a concrete wall..... broke the front tower....bou-hou, bou-hou !.....
Lucky me, I have another one (from a ST) at home.

Anyway, this is a great buggy to bash around (except in stronger stuff than itself...lol)

My experience so far...

MIchel

[elecracr]

I have also put the rc hobby on hold being i need a new surfboard and wetsuit as soon as possible. Once i get those two things it will be back to rc. Probobly in a month or so.... Around december. Il still run the evader from time to time. But the waves this weekend were overhead so no rc then.

[Wizardman_1]

Have you guys tried a 19T with the stock esc, i know it voids the warranty and all but i think itll work. The Orion Element looks like a good motor, probly keep it at stock gearing or maybe one tooth down on the pinion since it supposedly has a lot of torque.

[microrcdude]

If you run in decent weather to cold weather your fine. But keep in mind if the ESC gets hot to park you car.

[Wizardman_1]

Still debating on wether to get a new car (maybe an s-maxx) or getting new parts for the evader. Oh well, at least ill get something new.

[Megazone23]

I run a Chameleon Pro 2, which is a 19 turn, with a 21T pinion/88T spur setup, and I haven't had any heat-related problems...at least as far as I can tell so far. The ESC has never thermal'd on me.

I live in Texas and ran it all summer long (upper 90's, both temperature and humidity), so that should give you a good idea of the conditions.

[elecracr]

Im getting a brushless system later this month i think for my birthday. So when i get it il post pictures on install and performance and such.

[pudder]

Cool, know what brand system you mightbe getting?

[Wizardman_1]

sweet, let us know how it goes

[microrcdude]

I imagine He will get Novak. they seem to be the big BL maker these days.

[elecracr]

Im not getting the novak, they are nice, but i want something a little different... For now im getting a new Hacker Master esc and a 8s nemesis motor. Il be running between six and 8 cells on it. Im getting the hacker now... But in the future il probobly get a shultze uforce.

[microrcdude]

ya, hacker would be my second guess.

[elecracr]

I think i may just wait untill about christmas time because then i think i can get a U force and a motor. I think im going to wait instead of getting something i will have to upgrade in the future.

[Wizardman_1]

I might end up getting a brushless for x-mas too, probably a novak, since it is much cheaper. If tower keeps their savings things going for the next month, i can get new batteries, steering servo and tires too. Then for my birthday in feb ill get a synthesized radio, that new futaba one, i think its called the 3PM-S.

[Wizardman_1]

I joined the band wagon with elecracr and got a brushless. I sent in the order today for a Novak SS. :D I also ordered a Duratrax SX210MG servo, its $29 at Tower and has about the same specs as the popular Hitec servo that costs $39, you guys should check it out. Tower also has some Orion GP3300SP V-maxx Rocket Pack for $33, cheapest GP3300 ive seen that come assembled. Dirt Hawg I's were also on the order and some other stuff that i needed. How fast do you think my evader will go wit bl?

[Megazone23]

I'll be very interested to hear what your brushless results are. Are you guys planning on beefing up the tranny with metal idler and/or diff gears?

[Cain]

The novaks have loads of torque. Very impressive.

[Wizardman_1]

Dang dude i totally forgot about the tranny, oh well i still have a while since that is going to be my x-mas present. Ill probly get the duratrax metal idler and if needed i read in the evader st forum that a b2 metal diff gear will work although i need to get different bearings if i do. I ordered a 22T pinion with it hopefully the esc wont get that hot like ive read, at least i still have my fan from my experiment. I think ill run it in limited mode while bashing and unlimited when im with my friend that has a nitro truck. Thats why i like the novak also cause the price is good.

[elecracr]

Ahhh... My funds fell through do to a recent car accident.... maybe around christmas. Il keep you updated.

[Megazone23]

That sucks, bud. I hope you're okay.

[elecracr]

Yea, im fine, my brakes locked up and i totalled my car when it i hit another truck.... Sucks...

[microrcdude]

What car were ya in?

My dad hit the back of a dualie 3 years ago. Totaled his little truck, just a ding in the other guys bumper.

[elecracr]

I was in a 94 Ford ranger, so not too much money that it was worth, hit a toyota truck..

[Megazone23]

Just don't take the insurance money and put it all into your RC car! ;)

[elecracr]

Ya, i wont, its going towards a new car and trying to deal with insurance increases.

[Megazone23]

I sure don't envy ya, but as my Dad once told me -- cars can be replaced, you can't. Just glad you weren't seriously injured.

[Wizardman_1]

Wat did the guy in the toyota say?

[gene465]

Not to hijack on this thread, but if anyone is interested I have a very good condition BX available for trade as a roller or with electronics. Just check the trade/wanted forums. Thanks Gene

[Megazone23]

Okay, everyone -- WAKE UP! :D

Wiz, are you still doing the brushless thing?

[Wizardman_1]

Yep, the novak is here in my house somewhere, now i just have to find it :p .
I have to wait till xmas cause its my present. The only bad thing is that the order was under paid cause the price of the battery pack went up while the order was in the mail. Oh well, im not paying :D . Its been such a long time since i have driven my evader, hopefully my drivetrain holds up. I plan on using it in limited mode in the dirt and unlimited in the street until i get some metal gears. For my bday in february i want to get a better radio, but then again im being tempted to buy another kit.

[Megazone23]

Ah yes, the Xmas limitations. I'm in a self-purchasing blackout period because of Xmas -- fortunately the E-Maxx slipped in under the wire. Although to be fair, my wife is easing the restrictions if I can make a good case for it, like better tires and new wheels :D

I'm thinking about getting a Futaba 3Pwhatever system, but as long as the AM radios work fine for me, I can't really justify it even to myself.

[Wizardman_1]

That radio is pretty good, its the cheapest sythesized system isnt it?

[Megazone23]

As far as I know it is. BTW, the true model is 3PM-TFS. Tower has just the Tx and Rx listed at $130. With the S3305 servo (hi-torque, metal gear, ball bearings), it's $160, which is a good deal since the servo itself is $38.

[Wizardman_1]

Megazone23: what kind of upgrades are you going to make with your evader, it seems as if your using your emaxx a lot now.

[Megazone23]

Truth be told, I don't know that I'm going to do any more upgrading to my Evader. I'm really happy with the way it performs as it is now, and I haven't broken anything recently despite driving the snot out of it. Here's what I've done to date:
- purple aluminum hinge pin brace
- purple aluminum front bulkhead
- purple aluminum transmission brace
- purple aluminum heat sink/motor mount
- yellow ball cups just for show
- yellow steering bell crank assembly just for show
- yellow motor cover just for show
- yellow antenna tube, you got it, just for show
- 30W/40W shock oil for better handling on the street
- RPM Clawz rims with Pro-line Dirt Hawg skins (I actually have the ST)
- Futaba S3305 servo (hi-torque, metal gears, ball bearings)
- Chameleon 2 Pro 19T motor with 21T pinion (26.4 mph according to my GPS)

I think that covers it. I may buy a new body for it and try to paint it. Other than that, the only foreseeable upgrade will be an FM Rx module if I ever buy an FM radio system.

The only other things that I would want to do to it are pretty expensive -- new ESC (~$80), or tranny upgrade to metal for brushless setup (more than the truck is worth even with upgrades). Since I don't race, I can't really see any reason to replace any more chassis parts until they break, and even then I'll probably just replace them with stock parts.

That's kinda why I got the E-Maxx -- something new/different, and I wanted to get a 4WD truck.

[Wizardman_1]

From what i know an FM radio makes a difference, it might be worth the money. From what i can remember here are my upgrades.

DuraTrax Purple Hingepin Brace
DuraTrax Yellow Ball Cups
DuraTrax Blue Front Bumper
DuraTrax Blue Battery Strap
DuraTrax Blue Bell Cranks
DuraTrax Yellow Shock Bushings
Associated Front B3 Rims on Pro-Line LP 4-rib
Pro-Line B3 Rear Rims on Pro-Line Bowties
30W/30W shock oil
DuraTrax Sway Bar running the yellow bar
Deans Plugs

[Wizardman_1]

I found the Novak! I'll have to check out if everything made it in one piece.
Where's everybodies x-mas spirit? Go look for your presents :p

[Megazone23]

w00t! Now that you found it, do you have to wrap it up and plant it under the tree? ;)

[Wizardman_1]

lol, ill have to investigate the contents inside the box first. The box is already open because my mom took out the receipt to check how much we owed. I dont think ill be wrapping my own present though.

[mauricerc]

Does anyone know if an aftermarker buggy body will fit and if so which one?

Any pics??

[Wizardman_1]

Welcome to the forums! From what i have read through in this thread B3 Deja Vu Tu, and B4 interceptor bodies work but i have not tried them myself. Just to make sure i would buy the DuraTrax clear replacement body.

[elecracr]

Haha, my parents and i went and got my christmas present the other day, a new surfboard finnally. So now that i have got a wetsuit and board some of my money can now be devoted to my wonderful evader again. I now have a job so eventually brushless will be in my car! But i have no idea how long... haha because i have to pay my parents back for the car accident and buy myself my own car first, good thing i have a bunch of money in the bank!

[Wizardman_1]

Thats sweet man. My parents are gone right now, im off to search, muwahahahaha

[Wizardman_1]

Found it! :D The tread on the Dirt Hawgs wasn't as deep as i thought it was and the duratrax servo only came in bag? No box or specs. Other than that everything looks good, here's a pic.

[Megazone23]

You'll like the Dirt Hawgs. I've been running them hard (on the street a lot) and they really only show wear on the extreme outside corners.

[Wizardman_1]

Ill try to do balanced dirt and street bashing. It might be wearing on the edge because of your camber settings.

[Megazone23]

That's exactly what I do, and that's why I got the Dirt Hawgs. The Masher 2000s would probably be another good choice.

Actually the wear was from before I cranked up the negative camber. Whenever I would make turns on the street, the truck would always be riding on the outside wheels big time. :D

[elecracr]

Yea you will love the dirt hawgs. Im loving that box of goodies!

[Wizardman_1]

Im gonna be scared to run the SS in unlimited cause i totally forgot to upgrade the tranny. Did you get your brushless system yet?

[Megazone23]

Well what better way to get you to upgrade the tranny than to turn it into a puddle of plastic slag with the SS? ;)

[Wizardman_1]

Yea itll be fun running it but if it does break it might be a while before i get some metal gears.

[elecracr]

No, i dont have the money yet for brushless. But if you set the slipper loose and get a few extra idler gears running in the unlimited should be no problem, you should see speeds around or above 40 if geared well i believe.

[Wizardman_1]

I got a 22t pinion so hopefully the motor will be geared correctly, on the novak site it said 1 tooth lower than if you were running a stock motor. The Photon is close enough to a stocker. Ill have to start doing stuff around here to get $16 for the aluminum idler, i just dont want to keep replacing the plastic units. Cant wait till friday night.

[elecracr]

Yea, well iv only blown one idler and one differential with all the 12-15 turn motors iv ran in the past year with a locked slipper. Also, you gear a stock motor such as the monster horsepower stock with a 23 pinion also so 22 should be good for you, just keep and eye on the temps. If you have any glitching problems that have been discussed i have heard you should tape around your reciever, put a layer of aluminum foil, then tape that again and you should be fine. You will love those tires. After i buy a few parts for my boat im going to start saving for brushless, im hopefully gunna get a shultze uforce and a lehner or comparable motor. And il be saving about 30 dollars a week for it being i have to give my parents half my pay check to help pay for the car and have some money to spend over the course of the week. IM hoping to have the money for one in the next month or two.

[Wizardman_1]

I have never heard about the foil thing, thanks for the tip. The shultze is gonna be a killer system, way better than my novak. Well good luck with the savings.

[elecracr]

Haha, the shultze may be a more powerful system, but maybe not a better, it may be too much power for the evader. If it is il either move it to my boat or drop down in cells, im hoping for a uforce but i may go for a new hacker controller.

[Wizardman_1]

I dont think it will be too much power, unless you are running a lot of cells. Craps uses the shultze with a plettenburg motor (sp?) setup that cost him about $450 supposedly its the best around. It would be nice to have it in your boat, only downside would be the runtime.

[elecracr]

Yea, i dont really know exactly what im going to get yet, have to get the money first, i think im gettting excited too quick because it will be a few months before i get the amount of money i need.

[Wizardman_1]

The main reason i got the novak is cause it was the least expensive, hopefully novak will come out with more things to make it faster.
Has anybody else been running their buggies or trucks? Its been a long time since ive driven something rc, maybe ill go finish my propeller car......

[elecracr]

I will start running my evader again soon, i actually just charged my batteries up tonight. I havent been running it due to the weather, but the next few days should be ok. My new boat esc im getting handles 10-24 cells, i have a 550 size motor im going to retry in my car possibly on 12 cells that should give me insane speeds, or i may just hook up one of my old motors that barely works and have really crazy speeds for a few minutes.

[Wizardman_1]

Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!
Man its takin a while to get everything together. Alright so i got all of the o rings on the ballstuds, mounted the steering servo but it has a different patern for the servo horn, so i just CA the stock horn on there, hopefully it works. Man the SS has a lot of wires but its mounted and ready to go, battery is charged also. I just have to get my old tires off the rims and i can run it.

[elecracr]

Good luck man, i got some money along with all of my surf stuff. So i am going to get a hitec 625 mg for my car then im going to start hopefully saving for brushless. I went by the hobbyshop yesterday, and got a reciever pack for my boat but got one that will fit in my car for when i go brushless. I also got those ball cups i needed, i got the rpm ones that are more beefy than stock.

[Wizardman_1]

Well i got a report for today. Broke a front arm and bent a kingpin, its all good though cause i have some spares and i bent the kingpin back into shape. Steering is way faster now with the new servo, it looks like the CA is holding up. Im sorry to say that the tires do not hook up good on the dirt in my yard, it does work good in gravel and street though. The SS seemed a little sluggish but i think its because of the new battery pack, ill check it out again tomorrow. Well here are some pics

[Wizardman_1]

another

[smileyboy]

how do thes buggies compare against a BK2 or a B4. I am looking ot get a buggy soon. I want to do some club racing with it. thanks
thanks

[pudder]

With the right setup I'm sure they would keep up with other racing buggies. The only downside is that most tracks carry parts for those racing buggies and not DuraTrax.

[Wizardman_1]

For club racing it will do fine. Its also a lot cheaper than the b4 or bk2.

Man its snowing over here and i cant run my brushless :(

[pudder]

Hey, tell me about it! I got my Ford Granada stuck in a nice snowbank in my yard doing a bit of offroading yesterday. :D

[Wizardman_1]

Well it melted over here already, its still raining a little though. Ill have to get some balloons for the motor so the solder tabs won't short.

[bigair78]

I am looking to buy a buggy soon. I bash really hard and really jump my rc's pretty high. I was wondering about the evader bx pro's durability. Can it take the abuse of a hardcore basher? I had a xxx4 that couldn't take it. It broke way to easy on small jumps. Keep in mind I don't race at all. I just bash!!! With that in mind would you recommend the evader bx pro or something else?

[pudder]

Have you ever thought of getting a stadium truck? They can go more places a buggy can and are better for bashing since there are no exposed shock towers, they are bigger, ect. I can't tell you about the BX's durability since I dont have one, but I do have a B3 that can take just about anything I can give it.

[Megazone23]

I was going to suggest the same thing, but pudder beat me to it. In addition to what he said, STs have wider wheels both front and rear, which make it a little harder to roll due to the wider stance than the BXs. I've had my ST since May, and I've driven the snot out of it. The only things I've broken are the rear tranny brace and one stripped servo. I replaced the brace with an aluminum part, and I replaced the servo with a Futaba S3305 with metal gears and ball bearings. So far so good.

[Wizardman_1]

Bigair: If you would like to just and stuff i would recommend just getting one of the original evaders instead of the pro version. Either the ST or BX its your choice they are both good cars. The graphite in the pro versions would make it more prone to breaking because they are made more for racing than for bashing.

I did the WD-40 trick on my dirt hawgs and they are way better on dirt now, the tire is a lot more flexible and gets more grip, well im off to run my buggy again.

[bigair78]

Megazone and pudder thanks for the reply. I should've given more background on what I meant. I have had several ST's and currently have a BL stampede and a emaxx. I've had a xxx-t,xxx4 also. I've been in it for a while. http://www.******.net/member/BigAir78 this is my videos if you haven't seen some of them. After watching pudder let me know if you think your b3 would hold up to some of that jumping.

Wizardman_1, I thought graphite is stronger than standard plastic that comes with it. I mean that's how Losi and Duratrax advertises their Graphite Additions, as being stronger I thought. What do you mean prone to breaking?

[evaderstracr]

graphite parts are more stiff than plastic and plastic has more flex in it.

[bigair78]

So being stiff equals breaking easier. I guess I can see that. Is graphite lighter? And that's why it is so much better?

[Wizardman_1]

Graphite will snap rather than bend like plastic, thats why it breaks easier. Yes graphite is lighter but not by much, since you are not going to race, the difference wont be as big of a difference to you.

[bigair78]

I just watch a video of a guy jumping a bl B4 and you can tell it broke something. 10th scale buggys don't look to have as much air control as ST's. This b4 got bad squirrelly and he didn't land it. I just don't know if a buggy will hold up to my abuse.

[Megazone23]

From what I understand, graphite is good for racing because it's greater stiffness (compared to regular plastic) allows racers to tune the frame geometry better, because it holds the settings with tighter tolerances. The downside of this is that when graphite takes impacts, that stiffness which is great for frame tuning works against you in that it will try to hold its position harder, breaking first before giving.

I hope that made sense. It does in my noggin. :D

[baldie]

okay guys I just got done breaking in my evader bx and guess what....I accidentaly crashed it into a curb. Everything was fine except I broke the front right shock. The part that connects to the wheel. It cracked. Where can I get parts for this?

[Wizardman_1]

Ah the power of curbs, you'll be seening more of those. Some guy in the evader st forum put a link get it in aluminum. I dont think you cant get the rod end seperately but here is the tower hobbies link
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAMK6&P=ML

[baldie]

Ah the power of curbs, you'll be seening more of those. Some guy in the evader st forum put a link get it in aluminum. I dont think you cant get the rod end seperately but here is the tower hobbies link
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXAMK6&P=ML

Wow...will that fit the nitro evader bx? The link states that its for an ST. I was about to buy the whole shock part with springs and all,until you showed me that? Thats exactly what cracked on the shock. The part that connects the shock to the suspension arm.

[Wizardman_1]

Yea that part should fit, the shock shafts are the same diameter on the ST and BX, the nitro ones as well. I think the name of the part is a "ball end" or "rod end"

[baldie]

Yea that part should fit, the shock shafts are the same diameter on the ST and BX, the nitro ones as well. I think the name of the part is a "ball end" or "rod end"

THANK YOU!! You saved me from buy a set of new complete shocks!!

[Wizardman_1]

No problem sometimes the parts you need are right under your nose!

[baldie]

No problem sometimes the parts you need are right under your nose!

Well I'm new to this rc scene and this forum has been a great help to me. I'm so glad this hobby lets you buy the exact part and not have to buy the whole thing.

[elecracr]

Yea the other day i broke that same part as also with a suspension arm, wasnt pretty looking. I got those rpm ballcups on the car and they hold up great.

[microrcdude]

I have had RPM's on my trusty old B3 since 1998, and i havent had to check or replace them once. Im so satisfied, all my car (Exept the Micro) Have RPM parts.

[pudder]

Ya, I have no complaints on RPM parts either and I have them all for my T3, B3 and RC10 buggy.

[microrcdude]

Same here, i got them on all my AE cars. I refused to drive my B4 till my RPM parts came in from tower.

[Wizardman_1]

Too bad you cant get many RPM parts for the evader other than generic stuff. They should make a wide front bumper for the evaders.

[elecracr]

Im almost possitive that one of the wide front bumpers they make will fit the evader. You will just have to find the one that fits.

[Wizardman_1]

Like which one?

[pudder]

Possibly a customized T3 one or maybe they have one for the XXXT?

[elecracr]

Well today i went into the hobby shop for an upgraded servo, and the shock parts and cae out with them and a new orion revolution 13x2. This motor looks sweet!
Il let you all know how it runs later.

[Wizardman_1]

What servo did you get?

[elecracr]

I forget exactly what model it is but its a hitec high torque servo, it works great, now all i have to do is screw my motor in, once im done with that il have to go to work so i will play tommorow. The motor soldering was a bit difficuly b/c the soldering part is sooo small on these revolution motors. I think it will be alot faster than my old machine wound 15x2.

[Wizardman_1]

Those revolutions last for quite i while, or so i hear. Im stuck too, we got 6" inches of snow during the night, hopefully it will melt soon. My gp3300 pack is only charging to around ~8.950v, is that just because it is still pretty new or is my charger crazy? The mah doesnt go that much past 3300 only to around 3400 and my epic pack gets better numbers than that.

[elecracr]

Nope, your battery is fine. Most of my good GP packs peak at about 8.9 volts or so on the charger. The reason your epic packs get higher mah numbers are because the charger has to pump more juice into them because of the internal resistance. So in all reality there is wasted energy that is mistaken as more mah to the battery. I ran the revolution today, man this thing is a beast. I have it geared the same as my old 15 turn and it has better pickup and way higher speed. Have you been running your ss on sportsman mode, because you said takeoff was a little sluggish.

[Wizardman_1]

Well the first time i ran it with bl the diff was really loose so i went back and fixed it. Then after that the slipper was also loose so i tighten it up, pretty close to locking it. Acceleration got better with those fixes but it was still kinda funky, i was using the GP3300 pack, it was its first charge. Next i tried the epic pack and it helped out a lot, it had a lot of wheelspin. Since then i've put WD-40 on the tires and they hook up a lot better on dirt. After that run i havent been able to use it because of the snow around here. In sportsman mode the motor kind of twitches a lot at high rpm, that is supposed to be normal though i guess. I dont use it on sportsman anymore though, not after the first run with the GP's.

[pudder]

Sportsman mode sucks anyways, who wants less power? Balls to the walls man! I did try my Novak SS 5800 on sportsman once, and it is kinda funky at the top speed because its governing power. Think of it kinda like a full size car with a speed governer. Like my Chevy Malibu. It governs at 175km/h and kinda kicks out like the SS speed control. I guess they could have made it smoother, but its just better to use full power mode.

[Wizardman_1]

Yea, modes with reverse suck too, it seems as if the speed control glitches more. This might seem as a dumb question but what is the high/low minimum brake?

[elecracr]

Yea, i have to almost lock both the diff. and slipper in order to get any descent acceleration.

[elecracr]

Man that motor is awesome, il have to check what im geared, but im sure its over 19 teeth on the pinion, and the motor has so much torque that if the slipper is all the way tight it pulls wheelies. I keep it looser so i can keep all fours on the ground though. This thing flies too, the new hitec servo also is alot better than stock. I would highly recomend the revolution motors for anyone looking for them. I still think that speed gems are good for the money though... Haha.

[NitroNewby]

ooops

[vetmxer]

Im almost possitive that one of the wide front bumpers they make will fit the evader. You will just have to find the one that fits.
the rpm bumper for a losi xxt fits right on the evader st should fit the buggy too

[evaderstracr]

will the t4 bumper work on the bx? :confused:

[Prelude14WRX]

hello all.......Ive joined the ranks of people with BX's :D I got a Bx off of my friend for $70 and have put a lot of time getting this thing ready for racing during the spring/summer. This buggy is awesome and is highly tunable for racing.

Ive got a quick question....I just bought some front team losi XXX rims with new tires on them....will they fit the BX?(They also came with sealed new tires) im 99.99% sure.....thanks :D

[evaderstracr]

yes they will fit I'm not sure if the stock bearings will fit on it?????????????


:confused:

[Prelude14WRX]

Ive got old losi front rims and I test fitted the bearings and they worked. Maybe the XXX's do....not sure

[bigair78]

Still thinking about getting one of these. Could someone tell me about the "known" weak points on the evader as far a breaking points.

[guver]

If you get the regular one the motor and rear tires are not so good. Also the wing falls off. I think they really have the breakage issues ironed out pretty good.

[Wizardman_1]

You just have to bend the wing wires to get it to stay on, its not that hard. Another weak point is the rims, they crack on the edges if you jump the evader. B3 rims will give you more width in the rear, dont know if it is legal for racing but its worth a try. You just have to do some minor mods to the front rims to get them to work. You should also pick up a hingepin brace if you are getting an evader, the hard anodized one is like $4. Another little part to get is a robinson 23T pinion, the stock one is kind of blunt and doesnt mesh very well.

[bigair78]

Even for a hard core basher. I'm not talking about your typical racing.

[bigair78]

I run bl systems so I'm set on the motors.

[Prelude14WRX]

I think i read the mods were to get rid of the spacer and turn the nut backwards.......should be easy :cool:

[pudder]

XXX's use a hex on the front rims and will not work on BX's.

[Wizardman_1]

Prelude14WRX: The mod is not to turn the nut backwards, you have to cut some of the inside "spokes" of the rim because they rub on the arm on extreme left/right movement. I think on page 17 of this forum i posted i picture of the mod. Either way i would still recommend getting B3 rims.

bigair78: The little upgrades i posted will help even if you are only a basher, it is kind of like preventative maintainance, just buy the better part before it causes any trouble.

[pudder]

Wizardman makes a good point. Sometimes those little upgrades will go a long way! I for one can say Duratrax rims are crappy. Sure, you can get them in colors which is why I bought mine. I have a blue set of rear rims for my T3 and the bead is cracked on the rim in more than one places, thats just from racing and I barely ever race that truck!

I think I have a set of rear Blue BX rims lying around. Someone can have them for like 2$ plus shipping costs. LMK

[elecracr]

You may also want to pick up a pair if front suspension arms, which i have broken two in 2 years. And also maybe a rear shock tower if you jump alot. If you run brushless you may want to get some cv's for the nitro evader because they are more dependable. You can always bulletproof your transmision with a ally diff and idler, and carbide diff and thrust balls. If you are already running brushless you may want an upgraded servo to go with that speed.

[Prelude14WRX]

Well, if the rims dont work...thats ok. The tires I need are not glued on anyway. The only one glued on to the rims is a used pair of fronts...which i dont need.

[pudder]

I looked and I have the rims. They are rear blue bx rims. Looks like I tried to fit them on something, but they have not had tires mounted and basically new. Anyone want them?

[Wizardman_1]

Since i didnt want to spend any money on a bumper i just made my own out of some spare sheet metal i had lying around, yea i know it will make more interference. I also took apart the 12v fan i had lying around and made it as good as new again, and cleaned up the wiring on the SS a little bit. I put some balloons on the motor and servo so ill see if i can do some snow runs today. Pudder do you have any white ST rims that you will sell for that price? I want some paddles for my buggy. :D Well here are some pics

[Wizardman_1]

Pic #2

[pudder]

Sorry, no ST rims. I dont know if they still sell them, but DuraTrax made buggy paddle tires...

I looked on Tower Hobbies but they dont seem to have them. If you REALLY want buggy paddles like that I could check at the LHS see if they still have a pair.

This is my RC10 Graphite buggy

http://midcanrc.mine.nu/pudder/DSC02260.JPG

[Wizardman_1]

Well thanks for the offer pudder but ill just have to save up for some rims and tires later on.

[pudder]

Offers always open :)

[elecracr]

How does that buddy run in snow, mine runs pretty good as long as i can keep snow off of the front tires. It doesnt really snow that much here for me to buy tires though.

[Wizardman_1]

Well most of the snow right here is powdery, i drove it mostly in the drive way where the cars packed it down. Traction was only alright, it the powder the buggy wouldnt go anywhere, but in ice and the packed stuff it did better. The buggy spun out a lot of times too. Right here its a good place to go to the dunes for some sand bashing in the summer, thats another reason why i want the paddles.

[Prelude14WRX]

I like the front bumper....but just dont hit anyone :D

[evaderstracr]

will the t4 bumper fit on the evader st?




:confused: :eek:


:rolleyes:

[pudder]

I highly doubt a t4 bumber will fit, but I think XXX(T) bumbers will.

Those paddle tires work great in snow, but I never drive my rc's in the snow anymore. They keep the buggy going strait which can sometimes be hard with other tires, and you can actually go through some deep snow with them too. :)

[elecracr]

Thats cool. I have ran my buggy in thick sand numerous times running i think it was bowties and it worked great. It would get descent speed and run pretty well.

[evaderstracr]

can you make it fit like drill new holes or something???? :confused:

[Prelude14WRX]

found a bumper for the BX on ebay..................

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34063&item=5951275116&rd=1

[evaderstracr]

what is the minimal amount of torque i should have in my evader for bashing/racing??????????? :confused:

[Wizardman_1]

Evaderstracr: I suggest making your own bumper like i did so you can design it just the way you like. I was going to get the one that Prelude posted but i didnt like it because its kind of big and doesnt really look that good IMO. If you want to drop $8 just to see if a bumper will fit or not is your choice. About the torque, thats a weird question, you just have to gear your truck depending on the motor. There is a "sweet spot" in gearing for each motor. Everthing varies depending on your application, there is no set number for the amount of torque you should have.

[evaderstracr]

im talking about torque in servos!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

:rolleyes:

[Wizardman_1]

Well you should have said so, honestly it sounds like you have no clue what you are typing half the time. Jeez man you should learn to revise your typing, if i would have posted that what would you have thought? You should pick up a hitec servo, forgot the model name, maybe you should look it up yourself. :rolleyes: People these days....

[pudder]

I use Hitec 625 MG servos for my Corally RDX, B3, T3, RC10 Graphite, Pede and I race several of these vehicles. These servos provide about 125 oz/in or around there or torque, they are more than enough for a buggy. Somewhere around .16 sec travel time. Go to their website to find the actual specs, I dont know if mine are quite right, but somewhere near the real thing. They are also fairly inexpensive. I think about $50 U.S.

[elecracr]

I got a nice plastic geared servo from hitec for like 25 or 30 dollars from the hobby shop, it works very nicely. If they had the 625mg i probobly would have gotten that but i havent had any problems with the gears yet.

[evaderstracr]

what are some tips to decrease glitching in my evader????

[elecracr]

First of all, what setup are you running.
Then check a number of things...
1. Is your reciever wire frayed or broken
2. How fresh are your radio batteries.
3. How far away is your reciever from the esc.
4. Check all connections, battery, plug ins on the reciever.
Let me know if any of these solve your problems, if not i may know of a few other things.

[Prelude14WRX]

try a new crystal set.....usually fixes the problem.

[Wizardman_1]

You could always switch the Rx crystal with the Tx crystal to minimize interfernce.

Pudder: Do T3 rims work on your B3? It would be nice to know so i can get the right type of rims the first time and not having to reorder new ones.

[pudder]

I dont know. Never tried. I dont have any stock offset rims either for the T3.

[microrcdude]

Yes, T3 and B3 rims are the same, only diff is width.

[Wizardman_1]

Well i knew that they were wider i just wanted to know if the rims would hit anything. For example: if you are going to use B4 wheels on the Evader you have to use the inner shock mount because the wheels will rub on the shock.

[elecracr]

If you really want to use the wheels and you have to move it too the inner mount, just make sure that you change your spring and oil setup and then you will get great handling.

[Prelude14WRX]

im sorry i have to ask this....but, Will B4 rims fit on the front? The stock evader rims dont hold wide tires very well(for the front anyway)Also, will i have to put the shocks in the inner hole if i buy rear B3 rims?

thanks :D

[Wizardman_1]

I dont know if B4 rims work but you could get some wide B3 fronts that will fit with little mods. You dont need to do anything to get B3 rears to work, they actually make the rear wider.

[Prelude14WRX]

thanks Wizardman_1, Ill pick up some B3 rims, front and rear. The tracks i race at wont know if my buggy is a little to wide :D

[elecracr]

What class are you racing in? Do they check your motor and esc? Or is it just an trust deal where they hope you use the right kind of motor?

[Prelude14WRX]

Im running stock. Its pretty much a trust system.

[evaderstracr]

what is a good servo for the evader st that has at least 80 torque?

[elecracr]

Try the hitec625mg, as its a nice aftermarket servo that will be great for the evader.
I just got the last parts in for my rc boat so now i have two working rc's! The only problem is the water outback is frozen about 6-8 inches thick....
Oh well... i got my new esc for my boat, that is completely water proof, and can run 10-24 cells.... I think i have an old drill motor that may see the evader with 12 cells... it will probobly fly. I may even try my old speed gems, i dont know though, that would be like throwing it away.

[Wizardman_1]

Wouldnt 12cells be too heavy for the evader? I would guess that handling would suck with all that weight on the car. You could get some AA's and make a pretty good 12cell pack, its worth the try if you just want to do speed runs.

[Megazone23]

I replaced the stock steering servo with a Futaba S3305 (mg/2bb) in my Evader -- it's a direct replacement for the stocker which is basically a Futaba S3003.

[Wizardman_1]

How does it compare to the stock servo? I would rather have a faster transit time than more torque.

[guver]

Wouldnt 12cells be too heavy for the evader? I would guess that handling would suck with all that weight on the car. You could get some AA's and make a pretty good 12cell pack, its worth the try if you just want to do speed runs.


You are corect, I used to have an 8 cell street evader BX. It was very fast. I went to 12 cells, and was very top heavy and would corner with 1 front wheel off the ground. 8 cells I found was the best.

[Wizardman_1]

One of these days im gonna have to try the novak on 7 cells. How fast do you think you were going on 8 and 12 cells? Its sounds as if the buggy was trying to take off already.

[guver]

8 cells was geared with a 35 x 78 tooth on a stock motor. slight taller tires maybe twice as fast as stock. The 12 cell was a flop, it wouldn't steer any good and didn't seem any faster.

[elecracr]

Well, if i run 12 cells im going to rework the suspention and get another chassis and hack it up to run two packs well...

[Megazone23]

How does it compare to the stock servo? I would rather have a faster transit time than more torque.

Transit time is the same, but with the greater torque, it seems to be faster than the stock since it actually has the power to turn the wheels. If I recall correctly, it's a pretty good step up in price to get an appreciable decrease in transit time. The S3305 was like $35.

[*Supreme Losi*]

Hey guys. I'm replying to the people who asked what rims fit.


1)Front:B3 Rims
2)Rear:B4 Rims

I have a fully modded BX, that's how I know this.

[*Supreme Losi*]

Guys, next time I post in here I'll post some pics of my car. It's awesome. :D

[*Supreme Losi*]

Ok, so maybe not next time... This thread is getting dragged down by the TCP thread!

[pudder]

tcp?

[*Supreme Losi*]

Yeah, the Traxxas TCP offroad car thread.

[Megazone23]

I'm not quite sure I understand either, pudder...even with the explanation... :confused:

[elecracr]

Well, my esc crapped out on me.... Im going to try and go brushless as long as my parents let me spend that much money.... I need to use their card of course... Otherwise i may just buy a Novak at my lhs. But i think i might get the u force and stay with a brushed motor for a while, then go for the brushless motor. I really want that nice higher voltage setup though.

[Megazone23]

Don't forget to factor in the cost of bulletproofing your tranny

[elecracr]

oh i know, but il get brushless first if i can afford it so that my parents wont complain a whole lot about that.

[Wizardman_1]

Well surprizingly my tranny has been holding up to the novak. I tried different suspension set ups over these last few days, the green sway bar is way to stiff just like this one website said. You could do 2 wheeled turns and it would flip if you were going fast. Also found out that if you want to use the inner shock mount on the shock tower you have to grind away part of the camber link mount.

[elecracr]

I really want the u force... but i dont know if i can justify spending that much money.

[evaderstracr]

how do you guys fix the slipper clutch so it dosn't self-tighten?

100th post YAHH!!!!

[Megazone23]

What I did was I took a second nut and tightened that against the first nut to lock it into place. The downside is that it is a biyatch to adjust the slipper, but once you get it right, it stays that way until some other factor forces a readjustment, like the pad wearing.

[evaderstracr]

can i use denatured alcohol for motor spray until i get some real motor spray?

[Wizardman_1]

I would just wash out the motor with water or something, you can try using a degreaser like simple green. For the slipper i just put some threadlock on it and it works fine.

On the other hand I decided to check how my diff was doing, there were pretty deep ruts in the diff rings so i flipped them around while i order some new ones. I dunno if i just dont remember how fast it really was but today the evader was flying. It will wheelie from gravel to road now its sweet, left some ruts in the dirt from donuts too. Elecracr you should get the novak its good for the price, the performance is great on the SS. I cant wait to try it on 7cells.

[evaderstracr]

will denatured alcohol ''hurt'' the motor?
:confused:

[pudder]

No, it shouldnt.

[Prelude14WRX]

only use motor spray to clean out ur motors; spend the extra $5 and clean your motor the right way. ;)

[Cain]

I believe mineral spirits will also do the trick. check out www.rccars.com and the Big Jim motor forum for more info on this.

[Wizardman_1]

After some more fooling around with the evader this week you can see a big difference in speed between the cheap epic 3000 pack and the orion 3300 SP rocket pack. The bad news is i ended up breaking my rear shock tower in a roll over. Should i get an aluminum one? Dont know if its worth it to add all that extra weight. I think i found a new way to mount the esc though. You could lay it down on the battery strap and make a little platform for it to attach to.

[elecracr]

I dont really aluminum is neccesary. Just get two plastic. I have 140 saved for brushless i think.. If my parents let me spend the money i think im gunna go for a higher powered one. Im sure the novak is nice, but want to try something insane.
Good to hear that the novak worked out for you.

[Wizardman_1]

You should get a video of your buggy once you get your bl going. Run times will be cut shorter with a more powerful system though, might have to save up for LiPo at the same time. Another thing is that after getting your buggy to go that fast you wont be able turn that much cause you will flip like crazy, especially on road.

[elecracr]

Yea, if i can get one of the systems im looking at i will definately have to do some mods. I have made my own aluminum shock tower with hand tools. I think that if i can get it it wont be too out of contol on 6 cells, but on 8 it will be fun. Who knows, it all depends on how much money my parents let me spend.

[Wizardman_1]

The faster the better, as long as you're smoking the nitros. Well since its my bday coming up i think im gonna try and max out the evader, right now im thinking these parts:

Anti-wear grease
slipper pads
titanium hinge pins
titanium kingpins
titanium turnbuckles
Hard anodized light slipper plate
Aluminum idler gear
new gear cover
new spur
double sided tape
aluminum rear shock tower
wire to relocate the esc
novak xxl reciever

[elecracr]

Well, i had to keep with brushed because of parents. But i am running a 13 turn handwound so im moving around pretty good. I also got some new rear tires, and soft springs for the rear, il let you know how they handle with 30wt oil

[Wizardman_1]

Nice, i always thought that the rear needed stiffer springs but trying a new spring rate wouldnt hurt. Were they the duratrax ones?

[evaderstracr]

could the team losi or team associated shock springs work with the evader st truck? :confused:

[pudder]

Losi springs should work. Associated wont.

[elecracr]

yea, duratrax.. I dont do huge jumps so the softer suspention will keep the back on the ground. Becuase i was bouncing around after jumps and bumps.

[117]

Hi,

Can anybody tell me all the Evader BX parts compatible with Asso and Losi?

Thank you guys!!

[Wizardman_1]

For the truck springs the rear shocks are longer than most other ones, but i dont know this isnt the truck thread. I would just stick to the duratrax ones so you know they will work.
I dont think the soft springs would work for my setup, novak esc is pretty heavy. I need the stiffer rate for some street running. Hopefully now that the esc is lower the buggy will handle better. Im planning to mount the reciever flat on the chassis too, gonna grind some of the battery tray away. I dont think it will affect the strength of the chassis much.
Parts like shock towers and suspension arms would probly work from a losi xx, im not sure though i havent tried it. If you want graphite parts just get some from the evader pros, the parts arent that expensive.

[elecracr]

Well, i ran the evader today, in the mud. I waterproofed my reciever and splashproofed the esc, and put an old motor in. I had the reciever underwater at one point and it still works great.

[Wizardman_1]

I got my parts for the evader yesterday, pretty much got all of the titanium parts. I got hingepins, kingpins, turnbuckles, all of that good stuff. The aluminum tower fits pretty good, just that the body has a hard time fitting. With the lightened slipper plates the spur has a hard time screwing on as well. I havent had any time to try it though, ive been having tennis practice after school.

[elecracr]

Sounds cool, thats the only problem with my custom made shock tower, i could make it so the body worked so i ran without one.

[vegasdrift]

Are the rear shocks of the evader st the same as the rear shocks on the evader bx?

[guver]

yes, with different springs

[vegasdrift]

Ok good. They're just over 4 in long right?

[guver]

they are considered 4" shocks. fronts are 3.5 I think.

The bx has different fronts than the st they are 3" I think.

[vegasdrift]

If I wanted to use different shock pistons and springs what other companies could I use?

[pudder]

Team Losi may work.

[vegasdrift]

Team Losi may work.
Is that for both(piston and spring)?

[pudder]

Yes, just check that they are the same length and diameter. As I said I'm not forsure on this, if someone else knew thta would be great.

[vegasdrift]

Thanks for the help Pudder

[jjmag26]

Just figured I show my new bx.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1001102/EvaderBXPro016(Medium).jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1001102/EvaderBXPro017(Medium).jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1001102/EvaderBXPro020(Medium).jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-4/1001102/EvaderBXPro018(Medium).jpg

[pudder]

How do you like the Novak SS in your BX? Do you have the 5800?

[jjmag26]

It's almost too much for such a light buggy, but it is a blast. Yes, It's the ss5800.

[pudder]

I've run my 5800 in my buggies afew times, usually on the dirt road with paddle tires. :D

Heres my pede with 5800 in it

http://midcanrc.mine.nu/pudder/carjump.gif

[elecracr]

Hey guys, its been a while, i havent been able to use my car too much lately. I wrecked it a while back going around 25-30 and hitting post. It broke the whole left side of the front end pretty much, the chassis, shock tower, bent shock shafts, and broke the upper plate that holds the stearing together. I will get around to getting her back up and running soon, but my brushless fund was used up when i got a real car...

[davmoor76]

Well I started at the very beginning of this thread and read all the way thru, took about an hour and a half but im much more informed on my evader. I can relate to some of the problems ppl have had with their evader, such as the servo saver being to stiff, battery strap very tough to clip to the posts, the crappy tires, etc. All in all its still a pretty good buggy for the money. After reading thru this whole thread im not so sure i want to go with a 10t hand wound motor, seems like allot of maintence. Saw a 16t fantom handwound motor for 25 bucks, seems like a pretty good deal. Oh and my sprint didnt last too long after running a 19t motor in it. I made the mistake of sending the whole car in (multiple repairs) with the 19t motor still in it. They told me the motor burned the speed control up and they wouldnt honor the warranty. I bought a rc10 about 11 years ago and it seems like there are way less 1/10 scale off road buggies out there now. I guess the market for rc cars has diminished in the past 10 or so years.

[vegasdrift]

I bought a rc10 about 11 years ago and it seems like there are way less 1/10 scale off road buggies out there now. I guess the market for rc cars has diminished in the past 10 or so years.
Right now nitro monster trucks are the most popular vehicles compared to the 80s and early nineties when elec buggys were the craze.