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Breaking seems to be about the same as before. I haven't noticed anything different yet, although I've only had it like this for one afternoon, so I may end up hating it completely once my batteries start dying.
The failsafe I have (MPI) protects against interference and transmitter failure, and that part seems to work well. It's supposed to kick in when the receiver batteries get low, and that hasn't happened at all, which I why I'm concerned about the TRS - the spring just can't pull the stock throttle servo back. It has no problem with a weaker servo though.
alvin1
12-10-2002, 11:19 AM
no you cannot remove the trs even if you have a failsafe!If you lose battery power for any reason then your car will runawayunless you have a trs,because the failsafe still needs power to operate!
nuespeed
12-11-2002, 07:52 PM
Will this fit the savage:
XTM Air Filter w/ elbow for .21 Eng-blue and for the pipe is a Associated Gas Truck Muffler Tuned Pipe for 18.49, the Ofna Tuned Pipe, Silver (Stock) for 29.99, or the AL12T Paris Racing TurboRing Pipe 1/10 On/Off road currently 32.99 but soon to be 27 at hobby people. The paris is what I'm leaning towards but I don't know if the guy at my lhs is full of BS he said that the Paris racing turbo RING WILL NOT Fit the savage :mad: :(. Will it fit :) :D :confused:. I'm sure it should no way it can't fit but it should fit. If it does I'll get it (the turbo ring). Give me your help ASAP before the 26th of December thanks.
wrenchguy
12-12-2002, 01:49 AM
Just thought I would give everybody a chuckle and let you know that I have really lost my mind......I took a short trip to my folks house and took my Savage with me, grabbed all my stuff to run it and the rest of a gallon of what I thought was Blue Thunder fuel. Haha, I must have pulled that thing a bzillion times until I figured out it was'nt fuel, so I emptied out the tank and lines and cleaned it all out good with WD-40 and went and bought some pink Sidewinder fuel, no more blue stuff for me. Luckily it still runs great and hopefully no damage done except to my ego..... On another note , I put a Hitec 645 servo in for the steering and have'nt hit the curb since, I cleared my LHS out of parts just in case.
See ya, Wrenchguy
rcrebel
12-12-2002, 12:29 PM
Is this truck any good? I heard about it getting dissed, saying the T-Maxx being the better truck, although the Savage isn't meant to race. I hear about parts breaking all the time. I hear the tranny is crap. It gets stuck in 2 gear. Need a truck baddly, but I am doubting this one:confused:
nfs_srt10
12-12-2002, 01:05 PM
the tranny doesn't suck if n e thing it better than the maxx the only reason it get stuck in second, or doesn't shift is because there is a screw that need to get locktite on it, and even thought it ay not be race ready you can get it there far less than the maxx, it handles alot better than the maxx also (meaning it won't flip in a high speed turn) it also flys better than the maxx on jumps and can take bigger jumps. now keep in mind this is all my opinion, but also keep in mind i have driven both savage and 2.5 maxx, (i got the maxx as a gift for someone and broke it in and everything before i gave it to them, and own the savage) if you want somthin that is more race ready out of the box then go with the maxx, but keep in mind if you want to eventually upgrade the motor you have to spend $$$ to get the truck ready plus more $$$ to keep the drivetrain in workin order) but with the savage all you have to do is change the motor, a guy out in a force .25 (dropped right in) and hasn't had any drivetrain problems, he also put a 15t clutchbell and a RB086 pipe...but like i said this is all just my opinion
newracer
12-12-2002, 01:06 PM
I don't know where you are hearing that, all I hear is that the truck is great. Mine runs great and hasn't broke at all. The only problem with the tranny is that the set screw needs threadlock so it doesn't back out, an easy fix. The hub carriers have been breaking with large jumps and landing on one wheel but the part has been updated and is cheap to repalce anyways. I saw apict of a guy that rammed his into a concrete wall and bent the chassis but that was all that broke.
check out www.maxxtraxx.com in the forums there is a Savage section with a lot of great reviews and answers to problems/questions.
a guy RCSavage is racing his with great success.
nfs_srt10
12-12-2002, 01:08 PM
Originally posted by newracer
a guy RCSavage is racing his with great success.
thats the guy i was talkin about by the way
This truck is excellent! It's tough as nails. I've had my truck for a couple of weeks now and I've put some serious hurt on it. Yes, I have broken some things, but, all my repairs have been simple and cheap, and in most cases they have been field repairable in a matter of minutes.
You may have heard that the uprights tend to break - this is true, however HPI already has thicker, more durable parts available that are already in stores - $5 to replace. But the beauty part is, that if one breaks, you switch it with one on the other side and you are good to go. That's the 10 minute field repair!
What other parts break? Nothing consistently. I've had a dogbone break, yet that seems rare. I've bent a shock shaft, but again, that seems rare from what I have read on the boards.
The two speed transmission has been a problem. There's a screw that tends to back out and cause it to stick in second gear, but a little threadlock (another 5 minute operation if you do it right) and you are good to go.
You may have heard that the T-Maxx is faster. True, it has more top end, but the Savage's .21 has plenty of low end grunt, and goes plenty fast out in the dirt. With a gearing change you can go faster.
The T-Maxx isn't meant to race either, but people still do and spend lots of money to make it raceable. I've heard some pretty favorable reviews of the Savage racing (stock), and don't forget that hopup parts are just starting to come out now, so it can only get better.
My buddy has a T-Maxx, and I must admit it is one really cool truck (and I came close to getting one myself), but he has put over $400 into it just to make it durable - titanium skid plates, aluminum chassis braces, shocks that don't blow apart after big jumps, and probably other stuff I don't know about. Not everyone has the problems he had, so maybe he was just very unlucky, but I find that unlikely.
Quite a few T-Maxx owners have purchased a Savage, and while they aren't throwing away their Maxxes, they have been very happy with the Savage.
Check out the Savage section in the MaxxTraxx Forum (http://www.maxxtraxx.com). A lot of Savage owners have sort of gravitated there. There's some good videos there too.
My 2 cents.
Did I miss anything? :)
All right, next time I'm going with the short reply! :D I'm typing my reply and all of the sudden there's 3 more posts!
nfs_srt10
12-12-2002, 01:17 PM
lol that more or less what i was thinkin, cuz i was typin mine and as soon as i finished there was reply after reply...but i think y9ou more or less got it all
rcrebel
12-12-2002, 05:17 PM
Thanx guys, I'm looking at eBay for a Savage
rcrebel
12-12-2002, 06:40 PM
BTW, I know parts break(been R/Cing 7 years and still going). Anything has to be better than a Maxx. I hit a wall head on and it destroyed bulkheads and A-arms and bent suspension pins. Dont like it 1 bit. The Savage does like more impressive than a Maxx to me.
wrenchguy
12-12-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by rcrebel
Thanx guys, I'm looking at eBay for a Savage
Check out my LHS, he has 6 Savages in stock and will ship to you, selling for 430 ea. But if you talk to John , he might match Tower's price. Monster Hobbies, Hayden, Idaho 208-772-0422 Im not sure if he has a web site yet though.
nuespeed
12-12-2002, 07:06 PM
How much does the RB concepts pipe cost 067 or 068 either one??? If they are over 40.00 tell me a pipe that'll fit the savage under that price:D
RCSavage
12-13-2002, 08:25 AM
Hey guys I'm here too!!! As stated above I'm the guy with the .25 engine in my Savage. I just want to confirm that the gearbox is rocksolid. Make sure you put Loctite on the one setscrew and your good to go. I've been running the 2.5HP .25 for about a month now. First the Savage will wheelie like crazy, and hits around 45MPH!! I took apart the tranny to inspect the gears the other day and I can report that they look just as good as the day I put the new engine in. You can't go wrong here. I've never seen another Monster truck (you know which one) handle that power without mods to keep it together.
SuperMaxx1985
12-17-2002, 09:34 AM
Hey RCSavage, where in Connecticut are you?
RCSavage
12-17-2002, 10:13 AM
I live in Northford, and work in windsor. I travel to every hobby shop in the state. Which hobby shop do you usually go to or which part of the state are you in?
I just noticed you are in Hamden. I'm not to far from there only about 10-15 min away. I'm just outside North Haven.
ronin8451
12-17-2002, 11:34 AM
If you want the RB 086 performance at a reasonable price, get the Dynamite # DYN6612 one-piece pipe set for $49.95 fron Horizon hobby or your LHS. I race 1/8 buggies and after bending a RB 086 I started running one of these and it's almost an exact copy !!! I think you will be very happy with it.
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=DYN6612
SuperMaxx1985
12-17-2002, 04:48 PM
RCSavage, I usually go to Clayton's or Wolcott Hobbies they are both nice places to go to. And yes I live in Hamden not too far from Northford
ViperStrike
12-17-2002, 06:33 PM
Has anyone raced a stock Savage yet?
I'm really curious to hear how it performed.
I'm like 95% sure I will get the Savage over the T-maxx
the more I research the more I find that that savage is just a much better value, and with a new pipe it basicly cancels the 2.5 Maxx's advantage of more speed.
ViperStrike
12-17-2002, 06:35 PM
Oh and for you guys from CT
I race at Xtreme RC in New Milford.
I ran a RC10T3 last season.
I also ran at Barnstormers in Chester, NY a few times.
RCSavage
12-17-2002, 07:04 PM
My cousin used to live in new milford just over the bridge, and we use to go there from time to time. I usually run at Madness but I have run at xtreme a couple of times.
Private message me, I would like to ask some questions about xtreme's track and race program. I might want to change this coming season. Thanks again
To answer your question, I ran a stock Savage at the last race of the season and placed 2nd in the A-main against 2.5 maxx, supermaxx, hardcore maxx. So it is capable. It does needs shock tuning out of the box. With a pipe and motor it is waaaaaay faster!!!!
ViperStrike
12-17-2002, 07:07 PM
Great!
thanks for the info.
PM sent
2low4u
12-18-2002, 01:39 AM
Hey guys what's up! Dyin to pick up the new Savage! Been readin up a fair bit!! Thanks for all the Knowledge!! I'll be gettin it right after Xmas or first of the New Year! I'll let you know How much Monopoly money it costs me!!! LOL Any who any other tips other than what I've read for bein a Newby to Nitro RC!!
You're going to love this truck! I'd check out the MaxxTraxx (http://64.57.211.62/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=11;t=9118) board. It's extremely active with Savage people and there is an excellent thread with a bunch of tips to avoid some common problems with the truck. The link goes right to that thread.
TEAMDUZE
12-18-2002, 06:41 PM
We have now expanded our product line to include a new product which will fit the HPI Savage. Protect those long awesome shocks.
TeamDuze Online Store (http://www.teamduze.com/onlinestore.htm)
ViperStrike
12-18-2002, 06:49 PM
those are some long shock socks.
2low4u
12-18-2002, 10:14 PM
Well I got an Email back from my local RC dealer & We won't be gettin the Savage till some time after the first of January!! I figured it would be sooner but Guess not!! It's gonna cost me $755 Monopoly moneys LOL (Canadian) But OH well it'll be worth it!! I CAN"T WAIT!! The suspence is gonna kill me! Guess I'll have to keep Drinkin over the Holidays to keep my mind off it!!LOL
ViperStrike
12-18-2002, 10:20 PM
Torture isn't it?
I have to wait till after new years myself.
MaxxThrasher
12-19-2002, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by ViperStrike
those are some long shock socks. Kneehighs! :p
ViperStrike
12-19-2002, 08:42 AM
LOL, now that you mention it
yep they do remind me of knee highs :D
That's some nice long socks !
The red of my spring are flacking-off like dinner because it rubs against shock body... That might be a good way to hyde them :D
DFF
NitroRookie
12-20-2002, 02:42 AM
2low4u,
Where are you getting your prices from ?
Greathobbies is selling Savage 21's for $699.99 Canadian.
RCSavage or anyone else,
Does the Savage 21 comes with any starting Equipment ?
ViperStrike
12-20-2002, 06:26 AM
The Savage is pull start.
you will need to buy a glow plug heater.
SleepyGMan
12-20-2002, 05:44 PM
I was just checking out the Savage at my LHS. The have it for 429.99 (on sale for 409.99). The question I have though, is how is it better than the T-Maxx? The T-Maxx is 419.99, with the .25 racing motor and reverse. I have an MT Racer, so am partial to HPI, but the T-Maxx certainly seems to be the better deal.
alvin1
12-20-2002, 05:58 PM
the t maxx has a .15 engine in it not a .25;).why not do what i'm going to do and buy both!no more deciding wich one to go for then.[i already have the savage]
racer13
12-20-2002, 07:00 PM
you guys might really want to look at the savage forum or posts about the savage on the maxxtraxx forum. MonsterMaxx (guy from unlimited engineering) listed his problems, etc and did a full review on the savage and the t-maxx 2.5. overall he said the t-maxx 2.5 was a better truck
forum is here (http://64.57.211.62/cgi-bin/forums/ikonboard.cgi?;act=ST;f=3;t=11055)
if you aren't registered, here's what he said.
While we didn't put it to the test of racing it against a stock 2.5 there's little doubt in my mind who would win.
Still it seems like it could be nice truck.
From the pics I've seen of the trans it seems beefy. Time will tell.
Likes:
Looks.
Design layout
Package (you seem to get a lot for the $$
Dislikes:
Fuel Tank.
Handling
Weight (drives like a heavy truck)
Electronics (I'm spoiled by Airtronics, so this isn't even fair to say about a $400 truck.)
Wheel nuts.
Overall my opinion as a user is that it's a nice truck and should mature nicely. I don't regret getting it.
If a user only had the $$ to buy 1 RTRish truck, I think I'd have to point them towards the 2.5 as a more mature, better supported and better performing stock truck.
I think we'll support the Savage to some extent. How much will depend on my available time.
I hope this is not taken as harsh, as it's not intended to be. These are my opinions and impressions as I drove it for the first time. I was far less impressed with the original T-Maxx and far more impressed by the release of the 2.5 Maxx. I'd have to give the Savage the nod over the TC. Though the 2.5 takes an easy nod over the Savage.
this isn't all he said, but it would be way to long to post here.. gl every one!
crazyL
12-20-2002, 08:17 PM
why do u have to start trouble racer13? If you favor the t-maxx(which you cleary do) post in the t-maxx topic.
racer13
12-20-2002, 08:26 PM
i wasn't starting trouble.. i was just stating that whom ever has a savage, or wants to get one.. go look at what problems he had so you can fix them once you get your truck and wont have any problems with it.
Well, MonsterMaxx had some engine troubles too, which I think skewed his review a bit. Why did you leave that part out? "...didn't have enough power to get in trouble." Plus, he was running with a SuperMaxx with an S7 - guess which one is going to be faster? He mentions high temps - I'm guessing this was because of his engine trouble. And he reported some problems that many have never had, such as the grease coming out of the clutch and the wheel nuts falling off. I'm still wondering how he can say a Maxx 2.5 would win if he didn't even have his running right.
On the other hand, he did bring up one valid point - the fuel tank design. I'm sure HPI will re-engineer that one soon. At least, I hope they do.
The point is, that review was only one out of many. Most of the reviews I have read have been very favorable, and the rest were very VERY favorable. I'm guessing that MonsterMaxx had either extremely high expectations that the Savage could never live up to, or else very low expectations that he couldn't see beyond.
racer13
12-20-2002, 09:17 PM
um, i told you i didn't wanna post the whole thing cause it was too big!! and he did have engine probs, like it would spudder and starve for fuel half tank, but he also said that when he had a full tank it was running fine. too high expectations? no. i dont really think so, he's a very honest guy and showed people what magazines DIDN'T, so dont follow magazines to heart. cause they dont give the best reveiws.
Actually, I wasn't referring to the magazine reviews. I honestly haven't read one yet. I was referring to the reviews from real people in the forums - and many have Maxxes.
I just thought the whole tone of his review was negative. Even though he did say it was a fun truck with potential, he never really mentioned any positives. And actually, he didn't say it was running fine with a full tank. He said that though it was running ok, it didn't sound healthy.
If he's going to compare it to a Maxx, he should really point out similar shortcommings (such as electronics, servo savers, etc.) in both (which he does in a later post) and maybe point out some strengths and then maybe point out some differences. Just writing about his Savage's problems, then going on to say that a Maxx 2.5 is better without saying why is silly.
However, those later posts are all constructive and well thought out, so I really can't help but respect him. It's just the "review" I take issue with.
MaxxThrasher
12-21-2002, 12:09 PM
I just thought the whole tone of his review was negative. I think bias is the correct word.:D C'mon, the guy builds parts for Maxxes. Which truck do you think he'd like to promote? Yes he could easily just start building parts for the Savage which I would like to see, but maybe he's looking at the cost of changing tooling to do so and would rather not.
Anyhow, I read his review and that was the first feeling I got was that he was bias.
racer13
12-21-2002, 12:58 PM
well he's going to do a new review with an ofna tank, new servo/saver, S7 or hyper, with his own electronic stuff, stiffer foams in tires, etc and see how it runs then. i think that would be a better review against the sm1 or one of his trucks. and i think if he does like the savage after he does the review he might start making parts (would be cool) then that would be a really nice truck to race with (and show off!)
racer13
12-21-2002, 01:00 PM
also, he did mention quite a few good things about the savage, such as looks, stance, how it flew in the air, etc.
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 05:40 PM
i just bought a savage and i was wondering if i should change the tuned pipe or just leave the stock one on? if i should change the tuned pipe which one do you think would work the best for it?
ViperStrike
12-21-2002, 05:58 PM
Change it
most people like the RB 086
RB 086 (http://acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=20_21&products_id=2482)
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 06:20 PM
does that pipe bolt on or do i need other parts to make it fit the truck?
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 06:23 PM
does anyone know what the idle screw should be at? ever time i turn it down and i put on the brake the engine dies?
TEAMDUZE
12-21-2002, 06:30 PM
Take the filter off with the engine shut off! Then look down the barrel. Turn the idle screw counter clockwise till the opening is about 1/4 of an inch. This is how mine was set from the factory. It may take some tinkering to get yours precisely right depending on the amount of fuel you have run through and so forth.
You can also use your throttle trim a bit to adjust. Good Luck.
TEAMDUZE
12-21-2002, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by ViperStrike
Change it
most people like the RB 086
RB 086 (http://acehardwarehobbies.com/2.2/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=20_21&products_id=2482)
Do you see a big performance gain?
For instance when I got my T-Maxx 4 years ago one of the first things that people suggested I do was to replace the stock pipe with a aftermarket add on. So I did. It actually drove worse. I went back to the stock and I got better performance.
A thing to remember is that the pipe the manufacturer puts in there may look like crap but they are tuned to the performance of the motor that they have put in.
Don't get me wrong. You upgrade the motor then you better upgrade the pipe. But right now for me with the stock motor I am running the stock pipe.
Good Luck!
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 06:39 PM
Heres the link to a pipe i found on ebay. has anyone seen this pipe or have it? if so what do you think of it?
http://**************/ws/*******************************3101113436
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 06:43 PM
opps sorry the last link i put on there was wrong heres the new one:
http://**************/ws/*******************************3101113436
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 07:14 PM
geez the link is
http://**************/ws/*******************************3101113436 just copy paste it.
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 07:19 PM
i'll try to put the link up one more time other wise i give up. ok here it is
Duel Exust Pipe (http://**************/ws/*******************************3101113436)
Originally posted by AFI/Misfits
does that pipe bolt on or do i need other parts to make it fit the truck?
It almost fits. I just used the header and coupler that came with the truck. I also used a chunk of a wire hanger to create the thing in the front.
http://www.slapmafro.com/images/pipe.jpg
Yeah, that link still doesn't work, but I've heard that those dual exhaust pipes don't work very well because they don't create the back pressure needed to help the engine run better.
The RB086 pipe works great. I notice a lot more punch in the low end, and I seem to have more top end too.
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 07:23 PM
ok thanks i think i might get that pipe for it
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 07:31 PM
does anyone know of some alumimum rims i can get for the savage? also where can you buy upgraded parts for the savage at? my lhs doesnt have any. (i dont think)
Any aluminum Maxx rims will fit the Savage. I'm not sure exactly where you should go to find them, but I think there are quite a few available.
As for aftermarket hopups, they are pretty scarce right now since the Savage is so new, but I've been trying to keep track of companies that have or will soon have stuff:
http://www.neweramodels.com/
http://www.triplehracing.com/page2.html
http://www.autohausrc.com/default.asp
http://www.vertigoperformance.com/index2.html
http://f4iracing.extremevelocity.net/
http://www.rcalloys.com/
http://www.kippster-racing.com/
http://www.kippster-racing.com/
http://www.action-rc.com/trickparts/index2.htm
http://www.teamduze.com/onlinestore.htm
http://www.hotbodiesonline.net/
And hopefully, http://www.racers-edge.com will make a drill start system for the Savage, because yanking that pull start gets to be a pain. Literally.
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 07:44 PM
b!!! how do you paste pictures on your posts? every time i try to i cant. thanks
pro nova
12-21-2002, 08:18 PM
I installed the ths pipe on my savage, it bolted right on the truck:D
You have to have a place online to host your pictures. I'm not sure about anyone else, but I have my own web space that I put my pictures on, then just link to them using the IMG button.
AFI/Misfits
12-21-2002, 08:56 PM
where do i find the ths pipe?
2low4u
12-22-2002, 07:27 PM
Originally posted by NitroRookie
2low4u,
Where are you getting your prices from ?
Greathobbies is selling Savage 21's for $699.99 Canadian.
RCSavage or anyone else,
Does the Savage 21 comes with any starting Equipment ?
I contacted Mighty Small Cars here in Halifax!!! I'm in Nova Scotia!! So I figured give him a chance & see what he could do for a price!!!
vector
12-22-2002, 09:40 PM
Where do u guys get those aluminum roll bars for the savage
Which aluminum roll bars? You mean the one that doubles as a carrying handle?
crazyL
12-22-2002, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by vector
Where do u guys get those aluminum roll bars for the savage
it comes on it stock.
savageowner
12-22-2002, 11:22 PM
sites for savage updates... any of them have some nice aluminum or titanium bumpers that will fit the savage?
dainjarouz
12-23-2002, 06:42 AM
sup guys...ive been reading the posts on here for hours upon hours. there are so many. i have finally narrowed my new rc car search to the nitro monster truck category...just a few weeks ago i didnt know if i wanted on or off road :confused:
i finally decided on a nitro mt. in order of consideration, i like the savage, the t maxx, the terra crusher, the dominator (go fez), the ek-4, and the future ae monster gt. i was leaning more toward the savage but the reviews have made me reconsider the tmaxx. it seems to be the best all around mt. i really dont know what to get though. but anyways, i wanted to know if any of you had some links of videos (preferrably with different trucks going head to head) and reviews from professionals. so i can compare these monster trucks from a more objective point of view. thanks!:p the only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
ViperStrike
12-23-2002, 11:01 AM
He's not kidding either.
the debate is endless.
its like asking whats better,
Losi or AE?
everyone has an opinion and no one is right.
charlyfarly
12-23-2002, 11:18 AM
Hi. I've just started to run my savage and have to say i'm more impressed with this truck than my SHUMACER 21 EXTREME. The SAVAGE handles really well at full throttle and is well balanced when atacking big jumps. I now look forward to getting my hands on some hop-ups. just wish English weather was better so i could get truck out more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
alvin1
12-23-2002, 12:18 PM
i'd just like to say that i changed the stock pipe on my savage for an aluminium thunder tiger one and apart from being quieter it has mad no differance at all!
dainjarouz
12-24-2002, 01:33 AM
does anyone else think troy lyman is awesome? haha...that guy rocks. sure, he gets paid to do what he does, but you can tell that this guy geniunely loves his work. and do any other companies do it? i havent seen any other guys from any other companies take the time to discuss probs with their customers. well, im new to this, so i havent seen as many posts as most of you guys have, but ive sat here for hours reading posts and troy is always explaining things. talk about great customer service...another point for the savage (and hpi) in my, seemingly never-ending, quest for my first nitro monster truck.
today we salute you, mr. hpi-customer-service-who-reads-tons-of postings-everyday-guy. you answer our questions, lower our doubts, raise our engine tuner self-confidence and console us when we screw up a carb needle. so crack open an ice cold bud light mr. plateful of knowledge, because youve served us up...and were still stuffed.
hua15
12-24-2002, 02:55 AM
http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/savage/bogger/1.jpg
http://www.rcrock.com/images/truck/savage/bogger/4.jpg
Those wheel are the new JumboSavage wheel.
-Hua
RC4WD.COM
ViperStrike
12-24-2002, 06:29 AM
Nice pictures man.
I need to buy a new camera :D
2low4u
12-24-2002, 07:52 AM
Man Lovin the deep Dish & the Swampers!! Magine it gives the Truck even more Stability!! Wild!!
PVO Engr
12-24-2002, 08:31 AM
Hey guys....
I've got a Savage body question....
I'm looking to use a Savage sized body on another chassis, so I'd like to know the following:
wheelbase of the body (center to center of the wheel wells)
width of the body @ the wheel wells
If someone has picked up the new HPI Dodge RAM body, the specs on that body would be even more appreciated.
-PVO Engr
dainjarouz, I don't believe anyone anywhere has ever said it better than that! :D
hua, that is some massive offset. Wouldn't that put a huge strain on the axles?
PVO, I get about 11.25" from the center of the wheel wells front to back. 6 11/16" wide in front. 6 15/16" wide in back.
savageowner
12-24-2002, 11:12 AM
buy the rims at? looks really nice
Originally posted by savageowner
buy the rims at? looks really nice
Try here: RC4WD.COM (http://www.rc4wd.com)
$169 for 4 rims.
charlyfarly
12-24-2002, 11:31 AM
HELP!!!!!!!!!!!! Hi guys, i'm finding it realy hard to fire up my savage from cold. Fully charged glow starter,good plug, 25% fuel and still at factory settings? I've followed set-up guide and checked for flooded motor but still struggle! I've run 7 tanks of fuel through motor and have no trouble starting her once motor is warm. (At present English weather is cold and damp) I never had this trouble with my other truck but i'm sure it must be something i'm doing wrong. Please help as blisters on fingers are getting pretty sore:( Thanks for any help ;)
Can you warm up your engine from an external source, like a hair drier or heat gun? Or maybe just put it in the warm house for a little while. I had the same problem trying to start the engine when it was near freezing here (must have pulled 50 times), but a few seconds after warming the engine with a heat gun, it started after 2 pulls.
charlyfarly
12-24-2002, 12:29 PM
Thanks B!!! I'll give that a go tomorrow
charlyfarly
12-24-2002, 12:32 PM
I bet weather is better in Minesotta than UK b!!!
charlyfarly
12-24-2002, 12:34 PM
OOOOPS:( Minnesota sorry
It could be better here - we have hardly any snow! It was cold, then it warmed up, then it got cold again. Still no snow worth mentioning. About 10 years ago, we got 2 feet of snow on Halloween! Silly global warming... That's it, I'm selling the snowmobiles! I've got a better hobby now anyway! :D
AFI/Misfits
12-24-2002, 07:12 PM
I just got back from running my Savage in the grass for the first time and it runs as fast on the grass as it does on the asphalt. On the grass it picked wheeles a few times. Now that I've got it tuned good it runs allsome. Anyone that dougts the Savage is crazy cause it is allsome!!
hi all!i was playing my savage for like 7 tanks now,and i noticed today that trucks steering is not working that i can easily steer wheels by hand turning left or to the right without any force nor the servo sounds so i opended the servo i saw 1 gear was half broken so i turn around the gear 180 degrees unfortunately this gear supposed to turn only 90 degrees so now it can mesh with the another gear, and tested working fine now!!but my question is where can i get this gear ?? because i dont know when the rest of the piece is gonna break! do i have to buy another servo??then which servo should i get i want at least a power for the factory servo or more! is there any cheap ones i can afford?? $30-80 i will be appreciate for the help!
ViperStrike
12-25-2002, 12:39 AM
Not sure where you can get the gear, but hitec makes an awesome servo.
the HS-645MG.
its much stronger then the stock servo and it has metal gears.
It runs $39.99
but would it be little slower than the stock?? stock=.16sec hs-645mg=.20sec and yeah it does have powerful torque! thanks for help!:)
AFI/Misfits
12-25-2002, 02:57 AM
has anyone jumped the savage off any stairs? i havent really ran it that much so i never got the chance to try it out on stairs. i've seen some vid's of it on dirt but never on stairs. so just wondering if anyone has stair vid's.
newracer
12-25-2002, 04:00 AM
I got the 5945 in mine .13 sec and 181 oz!!!:D
charlyfarly
12-25-2002, 05:25 AM
Happy Xmas SAVAGE owners;) Hope weathers ok to go extreme xmas bashing. If you've just opened your SAVAGE be prepared for awesome off-road fun and huge smile :D
2low4u
12-25-2002, 07:11 PM
Man I wish I was openin my Savage today!! Oh well Soon enough!!
Anybody know anywheres in Canada Preferably Ontario that I can contact about gettin one of these Sooner!! Thanks!!
dyslexic
12-25-2002, 11:30 PM
hey AFI/Misfits I've jumped several stairs, I live near the beach and their is a series of steps off the broadwalk that get you to the sand height varies from 3 ft to 8 ft I done it all with my savage, just gotta find a nice ramp to get some big air off the jumps. now that I have an 8 port hyper in there it flys farther and faster then before.
romulus
12-26-2002, 04:50 PM
Hi everyone,
I was just checking around and I found this hop-ups for the Savage from GPM Racing in Hong Kong. Although I am an on-road racer, I couldn’t resist giving you this info. Maybe I will get one to drive around in the dirt. :D The following is the list of the hop-ups that they came out. Right now I don’t know the price, the availability or who sells them here in the US. BTW, here is a picture of most of the parts. I tried to put them all in one picture because of the limited files that I can post. Hopefully you can see them clearly
SAV1005 ALLOY WHEEL LOCKER - 4PCS
SAV1010 ALLOY DRIVE ADAPTOR 5MM WITH PINS SET - 4PCS
SAV1010W ALLOY DRIVE ADAPTOR 10MM WITH PINS SET - 4PCS
SAV1010N ALLOY DRIVE ADAPTOR 5MM WITH 2MM FLANGED+PIN SET (4PCS)
SAV1011 ALLOY FRONT/REAR GEAR BOX - 1PR
SAV1012 ALLOY FRONT/REAR BULK HEAD SIDE PLATE SET - 1PR
SAV1012A ALLOY FRONT/REAR GEAR BOX BRACE - 2PCS
SAV1014 ALLOY 3MM CHASSIS SET - 1PC
SAV1014A ALLOY FRONT/REAR CHASSIS MOUNT - 1PR
SAV1014V ALLOY 4.75MM CHASSIS SET - PC
SAV1015 ALLOY GEAR BOX PROTECTOR - 1PC
SAV1016 ALLOY 3MM MAIN CHASSIS SET - 1PC
SAV1016B ALLOY MAIN CHASSIS MOUNT - 1PR
SAV1016V ALLOY 4.75MM MAIN CHASSIS SET - 1PC
SAV1019 ALLOY FRONT/REAR C-HUB WITH STEEL KING PIN SET
SAV10193 ALLOY FRONT/REAR C-HUB WITH STEEL KING PIN SET (3DEG)
SAV10195 S ALLOY FRONT/REAR C-HUB WITH STEEL KING PIN SET (5DEG)
SAV1021 ALLOY FRONT/REAR STEERING BLOCK SET - 1PR
SAV1026 ALLOY FUEL TANK MOUNT - 1PR
SAV1028 ALLOY FRONT/REAR ADJUSTABLE DAMPER PLATE
SAV1028P ALLOY FRONT/REAR DAMPER PLATE WITH SPRING BODY POST SET
SAV1032 ALLOY FRONT/REAR BODY POST WITH MOUNT - 1SET
SAV1039A ALLOY BRAKE DISK ADAPTOR - 1PC
SAV1048 ALLOY BEARING STEERING WITH PLATE - 1SET
SAV1049 ALLOY STEERING TIE ROD SET
SAV1052 ALLOY FRONT/REAR ARM LOCK PLATE- 3PCS
SAV1054 ALLOY FRONT/REAR ADJUSTABLE UPPER ARM SET - 1PR
SAV1055 ALLOY FRONT/REAR ADJUSTABLE LOWER ARM SET - 1PR
SAV1080 ALLOY ENGINE MOUNT WITH SCREW - 1SET
SAV1088 ALLOY FUEL TANK CAP - 1PC
SAV1089 ALLOY FUEL TANK PROTECTOR - 1PC
SAV1100 ALLOY FLY WHEEL - 1PC
SAV1112 ALLOY 4MM HANDLE WITH MOUNT
SAV1330F ALLOY FRONT BUMPER
SAV1330R ALLOY REAR BUMPER
SAV1331F ALLOY FRONT ANIMAL GUARD
SAV1331R ALLOY REAR ANIMAL GUARD
SAV1305 ALLOY AIR FILTER
SAV1306 ALLOY AIR FILTER WITH PAPER FILTER
SAV1308R ALLOY TUNE PIPE - 1PC
SAV1311 ALLOY FRONT/REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR
SAV13170 ALLOY DAMPER (170MM)
SAV13170A ALLOY FRONT/REAR DAMPER (L-SHAPE A) UP- 1PR
SAV13170B ALLOY FRONT/REAR DAMPER (L-SHAPE B) DOWN - 1PR
SAV1815 ALLOY ENGINE HEAT SINK (13FIN)
Question? How many people are having problems with cracked gears inside the SF-2 steering servo? I was wondering if it is a problem for many people or if I put to much stress on the plastics while running it in 19 Degree weather here in Denver. :p
Also here are a few links to the parts that Romulus was just talking about.
Main Site - http://www.gpmracing.com.hk
Savage Hop Up Part Number List - http://www.gpmracing.com.hk/car/page/desc_popup.asp?a=SAVAGE%2021
Pics Of Savage Hop Up Parts - http://www.gpmracing.com.hk/car/page/pop_sav1.asp
Pics Of installed Savage Hop Ups - http://www.gpmracing.com.hk/car/page/pop_savg1.asp
-=MUD=-
Denver CO
Another Proud Owner Of A broken Savage.
(Wonder if it was that wall I Hit)
OmegaTrac
12-26-2002, 05:39 PM
Happy Holidays guys!
Just got my Savage for Xmas and have a couple of questions. I got my savage with a rechargeable rx batt, and McCoy MC-9's. When I went to start breakin in the motor, I took the stock plug out and it was broken. So I replaced it with an MC 9. So I got it started and let it idle the first tank. During this time it stalled once, so I took the plug out and the coil was snapped in half like the stock plug. I replaced it, and finished the tank at idle. Why did my plugs break?
Also, I noticed after the first tank of idleing, afterwards that motor had gotten much looser. Is this a normal occurance?
crazyL
12-26-2002, 06:08 PM
about your glow plugs, yes it is normal to go through them easily during break in. So far on my 3rd tank i just lost one. And you're suuposed to loose some compression but i didnt loose much when idling. If you lost alot maybe u overheated it or you left the piston at top dead center after a tank.
OmegaTrac
12-26-2002, 06:57 PM
The hottest it got was 254.
coolracer47
12-26-2002, 09:25 PM
Hey guys I just got a savage for Christmas and i think this thing rocks!!!Is it ok to run it without loctite cause i dont have any and i really want to drive it.
Originally posted by coolracer47
Hey guys I just got a savage for Christmas and i think this thing rocks!!!Is it ok to run it without loctite cause i dont have any and i really want to drive it.
Yeah, just check all your metal to metal screws before and after each tank and make sure they are nice and tight. Get loctite when you can, and have fun!
skelator
12-26-2002, 10:47 PM
hellow all, i have a savage that i havent broke in yet. i also have a rb86 pipe. should this be put on before or after the break-in of the engine? also is the hyper 8 port worth the money, and if so how will this pipe work on it? nitro rookie thanks you.
RCSavage
12-26-2002, 10:59 PM
Put the pipe on before break in. A tuned pipe is always better than the stock plastic one. And yse the 8 port is well worth the money.
skelator
12-27-2002, 01:16 AM
thanks, will the stock header be ok on their? also, what other kinda simple hop-ups can i ad to smoke a stock dominator?
rookie nitro star in traning thanks all.:rolleyes:
charlyfarly
12-27-2002, 05:20 AM
Hi guys, Can you lot tell when your SAVAGE is hitting second gear? Is it by sound of engine or sudden change of speed? I get mine to full throttle but can't tell. Top end speed seems ok so i thought i would just check with you guys first before messing. Thanks B!!! for info about warming engine from external source before starting. It starts first/second pull now ;)
coolracer47
12-27-2002, 10:36 AM
I have one more question would it be ok if i didnt have any loctite on the setscrew in the two speed? If it fell out would it hurt the tranny? thanks
coolracer47
12-27-2002, 11:43 AM
Well I just got done breaking in my first tank and I think thge truck is awesome. Im going to finish break in today and if i cant tommorrow and after see what the truck can really do. Only thing that was a pain was starting it. But Im going to have alot of with the truck.:D
ronin8451
12-27-2002, 01:49 PM
For anyone that wants to know, the Hyper 8 port works best with a Picco 69 pipe ! The engine will make gobs more bottom end power and have super top end run on too. I guess the similarities between the porting of this engine and the better Picco engines is the reson why. The engine works good with the RB 086, just better with the Picco pipe though.
Jagged
12-28-2002, 12:15 AM
Sorry for the dumb question but I've never hopped up my previous cars other than new engines...
Can someone tell me what the advantage of having alloy hop up parts (I'm looking at the ones by GPM Racing) over the factory ones? Lighter and stronger? Wouldn't you just end up with bent parts instead of broken ones or is the alloy that much stronger?
Anyone else notice that the Savage diffs look remarkably similar to the diffs in Kyosho buggies? Anyone try installing a Savage diff in a MP7.5 or a MP7.5 diff in a Savage?
Anyone notice that the Savage's diff housings look like they can be used in a 1/8 buggy of HPI's own design? The mounting points on the Savage diff housings look similar to the mounting points on a Kyosho MP7.5 diff housing. Could there be a HPI 1/8 buggy in the works?
newracer
12-28-2002, 12:56 AM
the Hot Bodies Lightening is basically an HPI buggy
http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/hotbodies/lightningrr/image2/image.jpg
charlyfarly
12-28-2002, 05:01 AM
How do you guys tell if your SAVAGE is engaging second gear:confused:
Charlyfarly, when it shifts you can definitely hear it. When I first got mine running, it was sort of stuck in second (or maybe first) gear. I adjusted the shift point so it works better for me. Here's the HPI faq on the subject:
http://www.hpiracing.com/rcforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57586
Also, read this one: http://www.hpiracing.com/rcforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57523
Coolracer, the set screw in the transmission is supposed to be threadlocked at the factory, but it usually comes loose anyway. If you can threadlock it yourself before it comes loose, it will save you the time and effort to take apart the whole truck to get into your transmission and fix it. See the second link above on how to do it.
savageowner
12-28-2002, 01:49 PM
Iv'e looked on the net and they have a ton of cool parts to offer but not seeing how to buy them. As for the question on alum hop up parts. Well they arent lighter but they are stronger and if you pop into something really hard you can bend them back into shape unlike plastic which will break. I have a pretty amazing savage project im working on right now I will unveil soon. It has some of the hop ups avail
Those GPM parts will be available at Hobby Etc, but it's all "on order" now. Here's the direct link:
http://www.hobbyetc.com/cgi-bin/catalog2.cgi?car_id=129&abbreviation_show=gpm
I think I will wait until I break a few arms before going aluminum. The knuckles and c-hubs however... mmmmm....:)
AFI/Misfits
12-28-2002, 04:02 PM
i cant wait untill the alum parts come out. do you guys suggest upgrading to alum? if so what parts should i upgrade to alum?
tallcracker
12-28-2002, 07:34 PM
what engine temp is everyone running the engine at? a guy at my local track was running about 400 and i brought it down to 250. i assume that the normal range is about 230-260 depending on nitro content and weather conditions. i have the hotbodies car that uses the same engine so i am kinda asking this question for my benefit as well. thanks guys.
savageowner
12-28-2002, 09:11 PM
well I know the lhs told me not to run hotter than 300. most of my runs have been in the 250 range. you can tell quickly by the 2 second method
tallcracker
12-28-2002, 09:30 PM
i have a temp gun and on my car i keep this engine between 245-260. i never let it get over 270 for any reason, it seems like a pretty strong engine, i hope to get 3 gallons out of it running like this
HPI says to run the engine between 220 and 280.
tallcracker
12-28-2002, 10:16 PM
kinda a wide range, but i guess it is atleast a starting point, and since i am right in the middle i asume i am safe. thanks guys
ragamuffin
12-29-2002, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by savageowner
Iv'e looked on the net and they have a ton of cool parts to offer but not seeing how to buy them. As for the question on alum hop up parts. Well they arent lighter but they are stronger and if you pop into something really hard you can bend them back into shape unlike plastic which will break.
I would not recommend aluminum parts for off-road use, especially items such as the arms. Some reasons why:
1. If you do bend something you will never ever get it back to its former state, no matter how hard you try to get it straight. And once any metal is bent, once it's straightened you have just created a weka point.
2. Heavier weight than its plastic or composite counterpart.
3. If you are using aluminum suspension parts that attach to stock plastic (arms to bulkheads, for example), and you hit something hard enough chances are that the metal part may remain reasonably straight, but the impact force will go straight to the weaker plastic part. Do you really feel like disassembling most of the vehicle just to replace such a part, that odds are would have remained inatact if you had stuck to the standard plastic item?
4. More expensive and generally availability is poorer than stock parts.
It's your call, though. IMHO most fancy aluminum parts are eye candy that are better off belonging on a show truck.
theramman
12-29-2002, 09:27 AM
I have noticed 2 things about the Savage that can be done to get a bit more performance out of it. 1st, the throttle/brake linkage is just not right, it pushes the throttle instead of pulling it at the servo, and with the spring loaded servo horns the throttle just doesn't open all the way, only like 3/4 or less. I have attached an image that shows what I have done, pretty simple to do if you have a couple of extra buggy parts laying around.
http://www.motherboardsdirect.com/dougtemp/savagelinkage.jpg
2nd, the pipe is too restrictive, I have changed it out for this pipe: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXCWH0 the OFNA 9.5 tuned pipe, looks pretty too. Really opens up the bottom end. Just have to make a pipe bracket, but that's no biggy and the pipe is only 29.99 from tower.
http://www.motherboardsdirect.com/dougtemp/savagepipe.jpg
Just thought everyone would like to see these tips.......
theramman, interesting solution to the throttle problem. The only problem I see is that your throttle linkage is now hanging way outside the chassis and is more easily suseptable to damage. Other than that it looks good!
I actually took a shock spacer and clipped it over the spring on the throttle servo which tightened it up enough to pull the throttle open all the way.
Is your throttle return spring able to pull the carb back all the way?
theramman
12-29-2002, 11:48 AM
Yeah, the TRS pulls the carb back all the way. I know the linkage is outside the chassis, but the tank is a bit out there too, not to mention the brake linkage. But the main advantage is the servo is "pulling" the throttle open. Beatin' T-maxxes all over the place now!
That's cool that it works. I'd just hate to see a stick get caught in there and cause a runaway. I'm not flaming or anything, I just want to make sure you are able to beat those Maxxes!
theramman
12-29-2002, 12:53 PM
No worries, no flame taken...... Well that stick better watch out, it won't last long..... But a very good point. I might try flipping the bell-crank mount around and get it inside of the chassis.......
newracer
12-29-2002, 03:17 PM
here is how I did mine, I used an OFNA linkage kit
charlyfarly
12-29-2002, 03:38 PM
B!!! I'm still struggling to engage 2nd gear, engine in sceaming but just doesn't change? I've just tried to adjust set scew anti-closk wise 90 degrees to adjust gear change timing but set screw is jammed solid and all i seem to have done is rounded 2mm wrench and set screw. I would be very grateful for any advice you could give me (again:p ) as lhs is a 1hr drive away .thanks!
charlyfarly
12-29-2002, 03:38 PM
B!!! I'm still struggling to engage 2nd gear, engine in sceaming but just doesn't change? I've just tried to adjust set scew anti-closk wise 90 degrees to adjust gear change timing but set screw is jammed solid and all i seem to have done is rounded 2mm wrench and set screw. I would be very grateful for any advice you could give me (again:p ) as lhs is a 1hr drive away .thanks!
You could cut (or grind) the rounded end off your hex wrench, or go get a new one. The ones you get with the kit are kind of weak. Hopefully the set screw isn't stripped too. Other than that, I have nothing. :(
ViperStrike
12-30-2002, 11:25 AM
Hey guys,
Just wanted to let you know about a new site dedicated to the Savage.
it just opened so it does not have whole lot just yet.
Savage21.net (http://savage21.net)
charlyfarly
12-30-2002, 12:22 PM
Hi guys. just a note to tell you that since having my SAVAGE for two weeks I had not been able to engage 2nd gear, after trying help/tips you guys gave me (cheers B!!!) and trying to adjust 2nd gear adjustment I still wasn't having any luck. So I swallowed my pride and took truck back to LHS (1hr drive away) and asked for advice. As a result I found I was still running the high-speed adjustment too rich so truck was not revving high enough to engage 2nd gear (another reason why truck can be hard to start because motor is still tight) Shop owner srongly advised me to purchase temp guage so as to tell when motor is running at peak performance, and also to purchase a quality 2mm wrench as kit wrench could not budge VERY VERY tight set screw:mad: (kept rounding off tip of wrench) After proffesional wrenching from shop owner I can confirm the SAVAGE is totaly MENTAL:D 2nd gear engages about a second after standing start (easily tell by sound of motor) and blasted around estate better than my Shumacer XTR Dessert Storm ever could! I'm sure you guys no all this stuff already, and i'm the thickest basher in UK:p but looking back at previous threads plenty of other people have had same trouble with 2nd gear :confused: as I have. Hope this as helped other SAVAGE owners. By the way T-MAXX owners the shop owner said he has only had 1 damaged truck back to thet shop(hit moving car:eek: )
charlyfarly
12-30-2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by ViperStrike
Hey guys,
Just wanted to let you know about a new site dedicated to the Savage.
it just opened so it does not have whole lot just yet.
Savage21.net (http://savage21.net) Cheers VIPER, checked site out and it looks promising! Nice smilies too:D
ViperStrike
12-30-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by charlyfarly
Cheers VIPER, checked site out and it looks promising! Nice smilies too:D
Thanks much! :D
AFI/Misfits
12-30-2002, 04:55 PM
do you guys know how much the brake rod should move? my savage stops pretty fast but i read in a magizine about the braking and they said "you have to be careful on the street because it might tip forward." i dont know if this is exsageration or what.plz help.
Originally posted by theramman
I have noticed 2 things about the Savage that can be done to get a bit more performance out of it. 1st, the throttle/brake linkage is just not right, it pushes the throttle instead of pulling it at the servo, and with the spring loaded servo horns the throttle just doesn't open all the way, only like 3/4 or less. I have attached an image that shows what I have done, pretty simple to do if you have a couple of extra buggy parts laying around.
I had the same problem. I re-centered the horn on the servo. Now I get full travel on the slide carb.
Don't trust the factory settings.
I also replaced the steering servo with a Hitec HS645MG and added a team orion 6V 1100 mAh. Now I have 130oz to push those tires around while standing still.
-=MUD=-
Denver, CO
I've read just about every post in this thread, here's my question:
Do I spend my $420 on a Savage right now or keep shopping? Who has the verdict? Savage owners only please.
ps. Does anyone know of a website selling a package deal of a receiver, strong servo, throttle servo, maybe a battery, etc.. WITHOUT radio? I have another car I need to get rolling and have been wanting to use an old radio (Airtronics Z style) to run it. (Too many cheap radios).
gaus
newracer
12-30-2002, 09:54 PM
yes get the Savage. you can't get it without a radio unless you get it from Europe though.
I got a Hitec 5945 in mine 181 oz of torque, yea baby!!!
I just got back from the local BMX track, very fun!!! It handled all the big jumps no problem, I even went off the top of the 7' tall burm a few times onto the flat landing behind, soaked it up and didn't bottom out.
Gaus, what else are you looking at? What kind of driving are you going to be doing? Bashing or racing? As a basher myself, I think this truck is fantastic. Stock, it's very tough with loads of power. I love my truck!
By the way, of course we're going to say "go with the Savage!" Ask the same question in the Maxx forum and they will say "go with the Maxx!"
the ofna 25 isn't a direct fit into the savage. however, with a slight mod it will bolt up nicely.
the problem that i encountered while installing the ofna 25 was the motor mount screw locations were too far spaced on the stock hpi mount. so i had to drill two new holes on the rear part of the ofna 25 mounting tabs (measure the mount and transfer the demensions to the ofna tabs for perfect placement of holes).
aside from the motormount screws, every thing else was a direct swap/fit. i used the hpi collet rather than the collet that came with the ofna 25 engine. another thing, i didn't use the brass spacer that was installed on the end of the clutch bell (like the way hpi had it set-up on the stock engine). instead, i used a couple shims to get the desired fit.
enclosed is a picture of the new hole i had to drill in the ofna 25 mounting tab. if you look close, you will see the original unused hole right next to the new hole......
just though i would share this with ya... i didn't backtrack through all the previous posts, so im sorry if this was already covered here :)
dainjarouz
12-30-2002, 11:24 PM
i dont have a savage yet, but i am almost certain im going with the savage over the tmaxx...and the other 4 trucks i was considering. just wanted to know if i could fit this kind of pack in there, the space looks really small.
newracer
12-30-2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by AFI/Misfits
do you guys know how much the brake rod should move? my savage stops pretty fast but i read in a magizine about the braking and they said "you have to be careful on the street because it might tip forward." i dont know if this is exsageration or what.plz help.
I have tipped mine on grass and the street, if your brakes don't work enough tighten the adjustment screw a little
Originally posted by dainjarouz
i dont have a savage yet, but i am almost certain im going with the savage over the tmaxx...and the other 4 trucks i was considering. just wanted to know if i could fit this kind of pack in there, the space looks really small.
Yes, a 5 cell hump pack fits in there very nicely. I would recommend getting one with a separate charging jack so that you don't have to open your receiver case ever again.
http://www.ballisticbatteries.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=110030&InfoID=200
And if you need one with a charger:
http://www.ballisticbatteries.com/Store_Detail.cfm?ID=110031&InfoID=200
newracer
12-30-2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by dainjarouz
i dont have a savage yet, but i am almost certain im going with the savage over the tmaxx...and the other 4 trucks i was considering. just wanted to know if i could fit this kind of pack in there, the space looks really small.
yes a hump pack will fit
NSBD 1
12-31-2002, 01:52 AM
Ok Im deciding on a Savage or Dominator. I will be racing at a large track approx 190x120 ft with large jumps , gaps, doubles, triples step ups ETC ETC..
The big issue is the competition I will be running against 3 JT Hybrids running Racer x suspensions and big power IE RB C-5 WS7
and O-1s.
I need to stay in my budget and that will alow for a good power plant and CVDs In YOUR HONEST opinion what would my chances be with a Savage against that kinda competition??
I hope to get a racers perspective .. Ive never seen a Savage run ... I like both so what would be my best bet Savage on Dominator.... Thanks...
nfs_srt10
12-31-2002, 02:12 AM
well i think you would have a pretty good chance if you changed the pipe and maybe even the clutch bell (16t) the stocl pipe robs the engine, don't get me wrong its a great engine with that pipe but not if you want to race with it....other then that i think you would do pretty well. now keep in mind you are up against some d@mn good enigines so don't go expectin to win right away ;) also the savage handles extremly well, where others trucks slide in turns the savage sticks, where some trucks wheelie, the savage goes, where some trucks bouce the savage soaks it up and keeps goin and where some trucks have trouble "flyin" the savage is like a bird.....now this is my opinion, and i haven't driven every truck out there, but i have seen just about evey one of them run and driven most
cynical_zen
12-31-2002, 10:24 AM
ALJR, I see you've gone and bought the Sav. How do you like it thus far?
I got through break-in last Sunday at UMass campus (a lil more space than Hobbytown has in the back).
Anyhow, not many mods as of yet...other than the home-made lexan skid plate underneath and and both sides of frame for snow running.
I'd love to see that Ofna 25 on yours run.
PS-I saw an ad for HotBodies Al. shocks in a recent RCCA mag...but no info on their site...anyone have anything on this?
TEAMDUZE
12-31-2002, 12:16 PM
As a former racer I find it hard to compare the T and the Savage.
I still have my racer T that runs etremly well. But I find that I am breaking parts on the T and the Savage is taking the same abuse.
The thing that people are forgetting is that the T is a 1/10 scale, great ruck with Ton's of Hopups out on the market now. Should be considering that it has been out for almost 4 years.
The Savage is an 1/8th Scale built after the T. HPI had the luck of watching all the faults with the T and built it using different components.
Give the Savage time and I am sure that it will be racing and being a serious competitor to the T.
Just my $.02
I love both. I take both out with a large bottle of fuel. Run a couple of tanks in one then turn around and run the other. Hard to decide.:confused: :D
TEAMDUZE
12-31-2002, 12:16 PM
Sorry double post
Originally posted by cynical_zen
ALJR, I see you've gone and bought the Sav. How do you like it thus far?
I got through break-in last Sunday at UMass campus (a lil more space than Hobbytown has in the back).
Anyhow, not many mods as of yet...other than the home-made lexan skid plate underneath and and both sides of frame for snow running.
I'd love to see that Ofna 25 on yours run.
PS-I saw an ad for HotBodies Al. shocks in a recent RCCA mag...but no info on their site...anyone have anything on this?
lol.... ya, i broke down and bought one. i went to the hobby shop to buy a bottle of fuel and a control arm for my nmt, i walked out spending $550 :( i had to buy it though, he gave me a sweet deal on the savage and ofna 25... im such a sucker for a sale :)
mine only has a couple of mods on it as of now. i have the ofna 25 in it, a kyosho .21 racing clutch (same kind of clutch i used on my .21 nmt with great success) and a motorsavers .21 air filter. ohh, and i also scrapped the stock radio and reciever. i got a novac xxl for my ntc3 a few weeks back and since i can't run the tc now, i fugured i would use it in my truck.
im in the process of breaking it in, so it should be ready by next sunday :)
ive seen those HB shocks. they look decent. but i would like to find some with threaded bodies. it just makes life easier.
hey, whats your name again? im really sorry, but i am terrible with remembering names;)
Newbie_101
12-31-2002, 02:08 PM
Hey guys, I'm new to the nitro game. I was given a Savage for Christmas and d@mn! Talk about an impressive profile. I've done the best to self educate but I'm still very green when it comes to a nitro engine.
I had a quick question for you guys. I live in Edmonton Alberta (cold and lots of snow!). We've been lucky so far this year and have very little snow. I completed the break in process on Chrismas day and left the truck to finally DRIVE the next day. As luck would have it it snowed. I ran the truck in no more than 1/2 inch of powder and within 5 minutes the truck was going no where. The engine was reving high but the truck was crawling. I popped off the body and noticed a thin sheet of snow/ice covering the air filter. After that I paniced, took the truck home, disassembled and dried it off the best I could. I have not even started it since. Do you think that the lack of movement was due to the covered air filter? Do any of you run your Savage in the snow and if so do you have any problems?
I hope you guys don't mind the "newbie" questions, I have a million of them!
Newbie_101, this forum is here to help one-another. so ask all the questions you want:)
my sugestion would be to read the previous posts before asking a question. chances are, some of your questions have already been asked before. also, the hpi home page has a decent forum section with quite a few savage posts (www.hpiracing.com). thats also a good source for savage info.
reguarding your current problem. no, the air filter wouldn't cause the problems your having. a cloged air filter will give poor performance (not rev to its fullest).... it sounds like your having a clutch problem. either the clutch bell or the slipper clutch got wet and started to slip... you did the right thing by stop using your truck and drying it off.... once every thing is dry, you should be good-to-go :) i personally avoide snow, rain and pritty much any thing that could harm my electronics... servos don't like water, and there not covered.... also, since your air filter got wet, you should take the foam out and clean it, then re-oil it :)
hope i helped;)
Dmartz
12-31-2002, 03:44 PM
Has anybody Stripped out there gears in there steering servo? Or can you tell me who makes the savages servos and where to find the correct replacement gears.
D :mad:
nuespeed
12-31-2002, 04:03 PM
Futaba does I think
nascarfreak88
12-31-2002, 04:08 PM
I don't know if any one haas posted this pic before. Look at it, its as wide as the chassis, unlike the maxx where you have tons of room! I dont own one, but i was surfin' e-bay, and came across the pic and found it kind of unique.
http://www.hpiracing.com/graphics/savage/DSCN2025k2.jpg
Oh and how dose every body like there trucks? Anybody absolutly HATE it?
Post copyright 2002 Nascarfreak88. All rights reserved.
TEAMDUZE
12-31-2002, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Newbie_101
Hey guys, I'm new to the nitro game. I was given a Savage for Christmas and d@mn! Talk about an impressive profile. I've done the best to self educate but I'm still very green when it comes to a nitro engine.
I had a quick question for you guys. I live in Edmonton Alberta (cold and lots of snow!). We've been lucky so far this year and have very little snow. I completed the break in process on Chrismas day and left the truck to finally DRIVE the next day. As luck would have it it snowed. I ran the truck in no more than 1/2 inch of powder and within 5 minutes the truck was going no where. The engine was reving high but the truck was crawling. I popped off the body and noticed a thin sheet of snow/ice covering the air filter. After that I paniced, took the truck home, disassembled and dried it off the best I could. I have not even started it since. Do you think that the lack of movement was due to the covered air filter? Do any of you run your Savage in the snow and if so do you have any problems?
I hope you guys don't mind the "newbie" questions, I have a million of them!
I agree with ALJR.
I live in Powell River BC. We get snow and allot of rain here also. My suggestions would be to have a look through the forums here and also on HPI and find the one about water proofing.
There is not garranty for us people here in BC being that it rains allot you need to be atleast some what water proof to run.
You can never get 100% water proof but protect the major components and you should be fine.
JFawwaz
12-31-2002, 04:24 PM
i LOVE running it.. it handles like a dream and jumps very well. The only bad part is wrenching on it. The TVP design makes the chassis cramped and small 10 minute jobs now turn into 30 minute ones. Im definately going to get the BFT when it comes out and if its good, my savage will be very very lonely. Dont get me wrong, i love my car but its just to hard to work on. If you dont like wrenching alot then wait for the bft because of its simple design.
Dmartz
12-31-2002, 04:30 PM
I Can't get ahold of anyone at futaba or hpi about finding the part number to order.
D
Originally posted by Dmartz
I Can't get ahold of anyone at futaba or hpi about finding the part number to order.
D
are you sure its the internal gears that are gone? seems like the servo saver would have protected them... maybe the servo saver is the problem... just a thought :)
mundenbk
12-31-2002, 06:22 PM
I had the same thing happen to me. It did have the servo saver on and I guess one to many hits(still learning to drive):) . I just replaced it with one I had laying around. Unfortunately, I didn't have the right adapter for the horn, so I don't have the servo saver on, just a horn with the extra arms cut.
Speaking on servos/linkage I had to change mine to the Ofna setup, posted earlier and works great. Except I put mine to the inside of the frame.
Did read somewhere that Futaba makes the electronics. Mine was the double white gear. LHS should have something.
mundenbk
12-31-2002, 06:32 PM
Has anybody looked into the notion of 4 wheel steering. It looks like there should be enough room to fit a servo and some linkage in.
I think I have just found my next project!!!:D :D :D
nfs_srt10
12-31-2002, 09:40 PM
yea, i'm lookin into quadra steer i ordered the setup awhile back for my maxx so i have somthin to go by
http://www.projectrc.com/reviews/upgrades/t_e_maxx/rad_rc/rear_steer.html
nfs_srt10, that 4 wheel stearing is pritty cool. but how would it handle at higher speeds. in the video, the guy was just driving it around at slow speeds.....
RushMan86
01-01-2003, 01:54 PM
Hey guys my name is mike and by my log in name i obviously own a rush. Well my dad on the other hand just got his new savage21 for his birthday and seeing how he is 55 and a little illterate to the R/C world other than my constant trips to the lhs. Nothing agianst him obviously i just mean that he asked me to do the little things that he can't do yet like break it in, test it, wrench on it, etc... But Seeing how i have never ran a monster truck. Is there any pointers i need before i really start working on this truck or break it in or run it or anything. Thanks in advance!
Hey,
I just saw the posts on the hump cell battery pack.
I got a cheap aircraft 7.2V (6 cell) battery pack. 600maH NiMH, but i'll charge it after each run.
It is the same size as a standard 4-cell pack, but i was wondering if it would be OK to install it in the savage. Reasons are:
1. it will give more "voltage headroom" above the fail-safe's threshold (not a major issue)
2. Faster (and more powerful) servo response. I have a 645MG for steering, but i just want more speed for it. and some stock Traxxas (sacrelige!!!) (spelling!!!) servo for the throttle. I i will change this for a fast servo, but want more strength in it too.
Has anyone done this before or know of any problems related to this....
Thanks dudes.
nfs_srt10
01-01-2003, 05:24 PM
ALJR...just turn the dual rate down all the way so it doesn't turn as sharp
rushman...the main thing you will want to do is to locktite all metal to metal screws and the screw on the 2 speed (the one in-line with the shaft, not off center) there is other stuff and the best thing to do is to surf around and find the info that you need
Originally posted by Kebv
Hey,
I just saw the posts on the hump cell battery pack.
I got a cheap aircraft 7.2V (6 cell) battery pack. 600maH NiMH, but i'll charge it after each run.
It is the same size as a standard 4-cell pack, but i was wondering if it would be OK to install it in the savage. Reasons are:
1. it will give more "voltage headroom" above the fail-safe's threshold (not a major issue)
2. Faster (and more powerful) servo response. I have a 645MG for steering, but i just want more speed for it. and some stock Traxxas (sacrelige!!!) (spelling!!!) servo for the throttle. I i will change this for a fast servo, but want more strength in it too.
Has anyone done this before or know of any problems related to this....
Thanks dudes.
7.2 is a bit high... im not sure if your reciever would handle it ok. you should deffinatly check with the manufacturer of the reciever beforing using the 7.2v batt pack.... most reveivers have a max of around 6.25v. any thing more and you might fry it
RushMan86
01-01-2003, 07:45 PM
Yea I did have a question about that, where do i adjust the 2 speed anyways?
Here's a post on the HPI Forum/FAQ about the shift point set screw and threadlocking that you should probably check out:
http://www.hpiracing.com/rcforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58325
smallblock
01-01-2003, 11:37 PM
Originally posted by TEAMDUZE
As a former racer I find it hard to compare the T and the Savage.
LOL, thats almost a picture of my Savage you got there
Got your shock-stocking just a few days ago, the same colour you used. They arrived even faster than stuff i order from Germany and that's right nextdoor.
Weather is the same here in Holland. So i also have to seriously consider waterproofing.
Happy newyear
AFI/Misfits
01-02-2003, 01:36 AM
i know that the savage has a 14 tooth cluthbell and i was thinking about putting a 15 or 16 tooth on. would it affect the low end and if so how much?
Originally posted by ALJR
7.2 is a bit high... im not sure if your reciever would handle it ok. you should deffinatly check with the manufacturer of the reciever beforing using the 7.2v batt pack.... most reveivers have a max of around 6.25v. any thing more and you might fry it
I think if the receiver supports BEC (battery eliminator circuitry) then i will be fine. These receivers can handle 8.4V packs as their power scource when used in Electric cars....
If this is the only issue, i'm going in! Cover me! (i'll cover the receiver!) Let u know how it goes.
Thanks
hey firef0xx, any chance youre gonna get that video back up there? i havent seen it yet and i really want to!!!:D
AFI/Misfits
01-02-2003, 03:31 AM
i know the savage has a 14 tooth cluthbell and i was thinking about puting a 15 or 16 tooth in. how much would it change the low end power?
nfs_srt10
01-02-2003, 09:03 AM
i don't know how much it would, but it would lower the torque
TEAMDUZE
01-02-2003, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by smallblock
LOL, thats almost a picture of my Savage you got there
Got your shock-stocking just a few days ago, the same colour you used. They arrived even faster than stuff i order from Germany and that's right nextdoor.
Weather is the same here in Holland. So i also have to seriously consider waterproofing.
Happy newyear
Glad to hear that everything got there quick.!
Wait till you see the custom paintjob that I did. Here is the linkSavage (http://www.teamduze.com/i/conglom.jpg)
When you are ready for another color or a custom paint job let us know. We should have some pre painted items up soon.!
RushMan86
01-02-2003, 03:08 PM
Hey TeamDuze how much do you charge for a custom paint job?
TEAMDUZE
01-02-2003, 03:25 PM
Rushman. Email me at duze@teamduze.com and I will send you a quote form.
AFI/Misfits
01-02-2003, 08:18 PM
i know the savage comes with a 14 tooth cluthbell but im thinking of putting a 15 or 16 tooth on it. howmuch would it change the low end?
hi guys,where can i get the reverse module for my savage??
i already try tower and omni model and they dont have in stock!
any help?!:eek:
dainjarouz
01-02-2003, 09:27 PM
what kind of fuel and glow plugs do you guys use on the savage? and why? :D
dainjarouz
01-02-2003, 11:14 PM
just wanted to know if you can fit a crankcase vent filter aka breather (a tiny air filter) into the savage...or any other rc nitro for that matter? breathers look really cool too, they got wire guards on the side and have some chrome on top with that red oil...but they might add more weight. if you want to see a pic of one go here... k & n crankcase vent filters (http://www.knfilters.com/vent.htm) . thanks for your help, sorry i keep posting silly questions, i just wanna get the most of out my future savage :)
fastharry
01-02-2003, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by dainjarouz
just wanted to know if you can fit a crankcase vent filter aka breather (a tiny air filter) into the savage...or any other rc nitro for that matter? breathers look really cool too, they got wire guards on the side and have some chrome on top with that red oil...but they might add more weight. if you want to see a pic of one go here... k & n crankcase vent filters (http://www.knfilters.com/vent.htm) . thanks for your help, sorry i keep posting silly questions, i just wanna get the most of out my future savage :)
not only do they add weight,they don't filter either....
cardesigner
01-03-2003, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by dainjarouz
what kind of fuel and glow plugs do you guys use on the savage? and why? :D
I use Trinity 20% fuel, just because it's not "questionable" fuel. It's always the same thing every time. I've used some cheaper fuels in the past and it's not worth it. The trinity stuff is worth the extra few dollars.
I use Mccoy Mc-8 plugs. I used the plug that came with the truck (R3) and I replaced it with a Mc-8 today. I ran 5 tanks and it always started within the first 2 pulls. It might vary on your climate, it was warm and sunny today in So. Cal so if you're in the snow, you might be better off getting that info from someone in similar climates. :D
AFI/Misfits
01-03-2003, 01:49 AM
I use O'Donnell racing fuel. 20% nitro. Works the best.
RushMan86
01-03-2003, 02:43 AM
Well I use Trinity Monter Horsepower in my Rush and now I used it o break in my dads Savage in. It is a good all round fuel for lubrication and regulating temps. But I also use the HPI Power Fuel when I run out of Trinity fuel.
fastharry
01-03-2003, 07:58 AM
Just keep in mind that HPI's fuel and Trinity's are both mixed by Wildcat..both GREAT fuels...HPI's ahd a 14% oil content..Monster HP has a 12% oil content.....
savageowner
01-03-2003, 02:47 PM
is my choice with a special premix i get form my lhs. Hasa great shelf life. plenty of power and oil content very pleased with it
I use Tornado 25%. It ain't no El-cheapo stuff either (man! do i know it!) but it really kicks butt.
I used to run 20% Blue Thunder but when i changed to the 16% Tornado the improvement in my Traxxas rustler and my HPI MT were amazing!! power was much increased and my temperatures dropped by 40 degrees (celcuis).
Obviously the 25% has even better power but still the same cooling. nice.
Dunno what the composition of it is.
dainjarouz
01-03-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by fastharry
not only do they add weight,they don't filter either.... how do they not filter?
savageowner
01-03-2003, 06:13 PM
are you checking your orders? I havent heard from you on my blue shock socks I ordered on or around the 20th
TEAMDUZE
01-03-2003, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by savageowner
are you checking your orders? I havent heard from you on my blue shock socks I ordered on or around the 20th
I sent a reply on the 31st asking what type of shipping you wanted.
I will send again as well as PM you the message.
Thanks
Duze!
savageowner
01-03-2003, 06:25 PM
mount an suv body to a savage? none of the mounts I c are tall enough?
RushMan86
01-03-2003, 07:46 PM
Well me and my dad tried starting the engine today, and there was a loud clanking sound when i had the glow igniter on it and i tried starting it. But with out it and i pulled the starter it didn't make the noise. Any idea why? But another thing it has never been started either. So I have no idea whats wrong. Hope you guys can help.
savageowner
01-03-2003, 07:51 PM
that it is indicative to the 21BB engine. I thought the very same thing when I pulled it the very first time. I even paniced and went to my LHS about it which is 20 miles away. They told me it was normal but it was smart yo head back because they wanted to play with a new savage anyhow :). Make sure you didnt flood it
RushMan86
01-03-2003, 07:55 PM
Alright good because we were gonna go down to our lhs neways. But ok umm i have one of those metered glow ingniters and it only says 2 and it should be between 3-6 and when i put it on my 12R SS it says 6 and also the same with my 12SPD engine. So do you think it could be the glow plug. But i havn't even run it yet so how can it be dead already.
smallblock
01-03-2003, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by savageowner
mount an suv body to a savage? none of the mounts I c are tall enough?
It's in the box, so no problem
savageowner
01-03-2003, 09:38 PM
those glow igniter meters are off. You might just take the glow plug out and hook it up to the igniter and see if it glows bright orange first. My duratrax igniter shows a 2 on the scale when I know the plug is fine.
savageowner
01-03-2003, 09:38 PM
I will have to look closer in the box then I didnt see it.
savageowner
01-03-2003, 09:40 PM
happened to savage 21.net? It doesnt seem to be around anymore.
Also can someone post an updated list of hop ups for the savage? I saw some awhile ago but there has to be more companies now on the band wagon.
nitro tiger
01-03-2003, 10:49 PM
ok nobody is using 30% because hpi said no i am not an idot i know i have to run richer i am going for it:D it makes such a nice differene
RushMan86
01-04-2003, 12:52 AM
Yea I tried that and no where near close to the one on my 12R SS. Except one problem. No extra glow plugs and i just came from the lhs
Crushedreams
01-04-2003, 01:05 AM
I am having a helluva time getting my savage to shift. I have had it for about a week and today was the first it shifted. I had to lean it out to run about 300 and ran it on the road. I takes about 100 ft and very very high rpm to shift. I adjusted the shift point 1/4 turn counter clockwise and ran it again. No change. I adjusted it again 1/2 turn. No change. Can something be stuck? I loctited the set screw above the adjustment screw already.
Josh
savageowner
01-04-2003, 01:13 AM
that way. matter in fact we weren ot sure if it was going to shift, then it just started doing it about the 4th tank full
Crushedreams
01-04-2003, 03:05 AM
I have probably run 10 tanks or more through it.
I had the same problem with my truck right out of the box. Check to make sure the heat sink is on tight. Also, check the carburator set screw. I got rid of the air leaks and mine runs great now.
prototype
01-04-2003, 09:18 AM
could some one please tell me how much the transmission of an HPI savage would cost assembled or un-assembled case, spur gears, clutch basically the whole setup that you put of the truck after putting everything together (transmission only) thank you
Martin Lee
01-04-2003, 12:18 PM
Go to the hpi website, and look at the exploded view, in the back of the manual. Take down the part numbers, and price it up at whereever you would buy spare parts.
taadaa
prototype
01-04-2003, 01:07 PM
tadaa already check but thanks anyways hpi didn't put it online as yet so anyone who has an manual for the savage ur help is needed heres another question Are any of the 2 speed setups or spur gears from the cars compatiable with the 2 speed and transmission setup
wavejake
01-04-2003, 04:01 PM
Here's the manual for ya...
http://www.hpiracing.com/instructions/instruct-savage21.htm
Also what all should I order when I order my Savage?
Fuel Filter, umm what else...
Thanks.
wavejake
01-04-2003, 04:02 PM
What kind of fuel are you all running?
Thanks.
crazyL
01-04-2003, 05:39 PM
im running o'donnel 20% it's good stuff in this engine.
ViperStrike
01-04-2003, 09:04 PM
Savage21.net (http://www.savage21.net) is back online. We had a bad storm last night.
It knocked out the web server.
I also use O'donell 20% works great.
Even the Traxxas Top Fuel works well
pro nova
01-04-2003, 09:27 PM
Dudes i installed the force25 and Ths buggie pipe and can now say watch my savage rip wheelies now!:D If you want a fast savage this is a must! another owner saw mine and could't believe it was the same truck. But the only problem is that i keep breaking my dogbones in the rear, but it did this when it was stock also :confused: Has HPI adderessed this yet? I thought that the slipper was to tight, but still broke one after losing it up!
Any suggestions:confused:
ViperStrike
01-04-2003, 09:32 PM
HPI just released heavy dogbones
pro nova
01-04-2003, 09:35 PM
Thanks for the info ,i broke three already and was thinking mip cvds,:)
savageowner
01-04-2003, 09:49 PM
a force 25 in mine with a cvec pipe and it could ride wheelies even the larger tires Are nothing to slow it down. this is an 1/8 scale and truck it will chew up any 10th scale . its just wicked now. Project soon to be revealed
pro nova
01-04-2003, 09:58 PM
I was just on GPM's web site and can say way cool parts. Looking foward to seeing you project :D TMAXX's beware of the rampent savages!!!
That's Hobby Etc. site.
savageowner
01-04-2003, 10:32 PM
they are making some great stuff. I just wish some people would actually have it in stock instead of all the teaser photos. HobbyEtc has very little if any and new era puts these photos up of really cool stuff but doesnt have it.
ViperStrike
01-04-2003, 11:11 PM
I just put up an article on my site showing how to make your servos water resistant. Nothing new but I figured the pictures would help for people that never tried it.
Click here (http://www.savage21.net)
Crushedreams
01-05-2003, 12:03 AM
It runs really good, It will rip the jumbo maxx tires from the start and revs to the limit. It just doesnt shift right.
wavejake
01-05-2003, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by ViperStrike
I just put up an article on my site showing how to make your servos water resistant. Nothing new but I figured the pictures would help for people that never tried it.
Click here (http://www.savage21.net)
How would you mount it back onto the truck?
ViperStrike
01-05-2003, 01:08 AM
same as before.
just screw it in.
wavejake
01-05-2003, 01:11 AM
Ok, I will have to try that.
So what all else did you all order when you ordered your Savage?
nitro tiger
01-05-2003, 01:26 AM
so i see some of you guys are changing the pipe is it really making a diffrence or is the sound going to your heads:D
savageowner
01-05-2003, 01:35 AM
change how your savage runs actually three. Getting the throttle to open all the way, a tuned pipe and getting the brakes dialed. This will let the 21bb scream
savageowner
01-05-2003, 05:37 PM
what is up with savage21.net. first it says I do not exist, then I ask for my password. I log in then gotochange password. Change it and then I try to post some good info for you and it says im not logged and now I do not exist. What the heck? since this forum is drying up for some reason and the other monster truck forum is picking up I thought to give some great info to your site I have found.
savageowner
01-05-2003, 05:39 PM
RCCA mag I just got there is a huge spread about hotbodiesonline.net having savage hop ups. Um try to find them I dare u. went there last night and got lost in a website. There is a sweet engine mount id like to get and also upgraded aluminum shocks. Id actually just like to find stiffer rear springs so my savage launches better.
ViperStrike
01-05-2003, 05:49 PM
I'll PM you.
allot of us savage guys have been hanging out in the maxxtraxx forum.... there is way more information on the savage there and it has a way better lay-out... makes finding the info allot easier...
dainjarouz
01-06-2003, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by pro nova
Dudes i installed the force25 and Ths buggie pipe and can now say watch my savage rip wheelies now!:D If you want a fast savage this is a must! another owner saw mine and could't believe it was the same truck. But the only problem is that i keep breaking my dogbones in the rear, but it did this when it was stock also :confused: Has HPI adderessed this yet? I thought that the slipper was to tight, but still broke one after losing it up!
Any suggestions:confused:
how much is this engine and pipe?
Dmartz
01-06-2003, 02:04 PM
Hey Pro Nova,
What are the part numbers for the force 25 and buggy pipe that you are using. It sounds like it increased your performance and I was looking for a good tuned pipe.
Thanks
Dmartz
Mojoe
01-06-2003, 02:53 PM
oohoo:D far too much fun :cool: i dont kno why everyone wnts to change the engine and stuff...mine seems to be plenty fast (wen it works :rolleyes: ) i was testin the 2 speed adjustment, needless to say i ran out of ground and took rather big jump...but it was cool :p it let me kno u dont need massive ramps to get big air :D
btw, has anyone got any advice about engine tuning....my 21bb bogs when ever i open the throttle and yet leaning it ot on the high speed settin has no apparent affect. i think it must be the mid range setting but i havent had a chance to test this yet cuz broke my pull start :mad: have to wait for aaaaaages to go to the lhs
wavejake
01-06-2003, 09:12 PM
Does the Savage need a standard or a long glow plug ignighter?
nfs_srt10
01-07-2003, 11:07 AM
standard will work
ViperStrike
01-07-2003, 11:10 AM
If you have the choice get the long.
it will save your fingers.
dainjarouz
01-08-2003, 06:41 AM
i was just reading some other posts about nitro engines lasting 2-3 gallons...wth? pay all that money for the thing to last, tops, 3 gallons? then buy another $100-300 engine? thats insane...if this info is inaccurate please correct it!!! im rethinking buying the savage now :( :confused:
alvin1
01-08-2003, 07:47 AM
yes it's true the engines in the cars last about 2-3 gallons at the most,but they do not use a great deal of fuel so it will take a long time to get through even a gallon.i have been running nitro engines for six years now and the most i have ever got through one engine is almost three english gallons[bigger than us gallons]after this time you usually have to replace the piston and sleeve at a cost of between £40-£70,depending on the engine, then the engine will have full compression again.hope this helps you!:)
NitroRipper
01-08-2003, 09:09 AM
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newracer
01-08-2003, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by dainjarouz
i was just reading some other posts about nitro engines lasting 2-3 gallons...wth? pay all that money for the thing to last, tops, 3 gallons? then buy another $100-300 engine? thats insane...if this info is inaccurate please correct it!!! im rethinking buying the savage now :( :confused:
you only have to buy a new piston and sleeve, directly from HPI they are $75, it should be cheaper from a LHS
racer13
01-09-2003, 06:17 PM
i've seen nitro engines last up to 9 gallons, just depends how you run them.
skelator
01-09-2003, 06:53 PM
i have two questions for everyone.
1) i am running the .21BB with a RB086 pipe, and a 16t clutchbell my top speed is around 40mph. (right?) dose anyone now what it would be if i swaped the .21BB with a Hyper .21 8 port?
2) where can i find, or can someone make, a instruction manual with pics, for the engine swap?
thank you.
nitro tiger
01-09-2003, 10:38 PM
Hey does the rb086 pipe really make a diffrence i took my stock pipe aprt and it is completely hollow i think an after market pipe is a waste of time. :o i could see if it was resticted but its hollow guys come on:D
newracer
01-09-2003, 11:16 PM
the shape and size of the pipe makes a lot of difference too
I've noticed a difference with my RB086. More low end punch and maybe a bit more top end too.
nitro tiger
01-09-2003, 11:26 PM
the pipe size does make a diffrence but i stat stock until i see this the difference the pipe is done right and not resticted the little gain you get i rather gear it or port the header a little much cheeper
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