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2NG
08-11-2002, 08:37 PM
Hello all,

Well, since this section is dead..... I would like to start things up.

Watt-age Reno Racer:
Setup:

400race
8cell / 600AE's
servo: 3 Hitec 50's
Rx. Hitec Feather.
Prop. Stock
GB: DD

The manual is excellent, Watt-age always delivers good instructional manuals to their planes. Though I find the Reno Racer to be one of the fastest ARF plane, that I have ever built, next is my Crazy Max.

Flight report, setting on training. WOW!! The Rrace pulled out and climb into a good level altitude. Fantastic!:) Aerobatic maneuver as crisp, combine with enough power, this plane is a must to you aerobatic pilots.

Flight pics soon:) (The pic below is taken before it's maiden flight)

Dave Robelen
08-12-2002, 07:24 AM
Hi 2NG,
Back from vacation, I see your flight skills are coming right along. It's quite a jump from thrashing trainers to ripping around the sky with a Reno Racer. Keep up the good flying buddy.
Regards, Dave

2NG
08-12-2002, 09:20 AM
Thanks Dave.

I have been having fun with aileron ships, nothing compares to flying full controls. The SwitchBack and the Crazy Max, help me out a whole lot.

The Reno Racer is awesome, flying trainer throws, she's responsive. Planning 010 brushless, let you know how it goes.

Yours,

2NG

Dave Robelen
08-12-2002, 11:41 AM
Hi 2NG,
Glad to hear you are having so much fun with the "hotter" ships. I thought you had been a little quite about the Cubs lately.
Be careful what you expect from the .010G Astro. The power compares pretty closely to a hot 280 setup (not the 280BB), and it takes a 10 cell battery to get the poop out.
I have been having very good results with the AXI brushless motor that Northeast Sailplanes is selling. The power of the smaller motor is well above a sp400, and it does this on 8 cells. I am running the 500AR cells, but a 600AE would probably do just as well. The cost of the AXI motor,controller, and gearbox from NES is almost exactly the same as the .010G. I am running the AXI in my 18 ounce Lil Luscomb Sport, and it will go vertical for nearly 300 ft before playing out. I can open up a Cuban Eight to a huge size, and the 6 point roll is really clean. The silly thing will even hold a knife edge. Iam getting 6-8 minutes of hard manuevering on the 500 pack, if I loaf around at lower settings 10 minutes is a piece of cake.
Take care, Dave

2NG
08-12-2002, 03:26 PM
***I am running the AXI in my 18 ounce Lil Luscomb Sport, and it will go vertical for nearly 300 ft before playing out. I can open up a Cuban Eight to a huge size, and the 6 point roll is really clean. The silly thing will even hold a knife edge. Iam getting 6-8 minutes of hard manuevering on the 500 pack, if I loaf around at lower settings 10 minutes is a piece of cake. ***

Wow!!!! I gotta check that out. The 010 is for myNES Accord 47. Thanks for the kind warning Dave, I haven't installed the motor, I was gonna do it tonight and fly it tomorrow. I'm in no rush for speed yet, try to keep my brains intact..

Aerobatic RULESSSSSS... About the Cub, I modifying all, with ailerons:) The cost of the AXI motor,controller, and gearbox from NES is almost exactly the same as the .010G

Dave have you seen Hobby Lobby's new motor? Their small 280 size brushless, that can pull the same as speed 400 motor's power output, any comments on that?

Thanks,
2NG

Dave Robelen
08-12-2002, 03:47 PM
Hi,
I believe we are just beginning to see the good stuff in the brushless market. I had a nice visit with Jim Martin of HL while I was in Tennessee. The version they sell rotates with the prop and may be a bit more awkward to mount. I have not handled one, so I could be wrong about that. The AXI motor is about the size of a 280, and mounts in the gearbox in a very conventional way. I would rate the version I am flying as being comperable to a strong 400. The beauty of these motors is the lack of stuff to wear out. The motors have ball bearings, no brushes, and the gearboxes have ball bearings. As long as we avoid stuffing them in the dirt, they will live a long time.
Regards, Dave

2NG
08-12-2002, 04:43 PM
Dave,

What combo do you rec. I need a small motor yet. pulls faster than 400. Combo and ESC... (remember, I'm still new to power combo types)

NES has mega motors as well..... I've seen one in flight, and I was wondering if I could put in the SB..

Dave Robelen
08-12-2002, 08:57 PM
Hi,
I went up to the shop to get the data sheets on the power system I have. The motor is listed as a Mini AC1215/20 rated for 5-10 cells with a max current of 16A for short periods. The RPM/volt=3,000 with an internal resistance of 117mohm. The dimensions put it as just a bit larger than a sp280 can motor.
The controller is a TMM 18e-3ph/TMM for brushless sensorless motors. The gearbox is a 4.1-1 MPJ for sp400 motors with ball bearings. NES will fit a bushing to the gearbox to mate with the motor if you purchase a package.
The best approach is to call Sal at NES and outline what you are looking for. When I bought this package, the total was right near $150.
Since this is about the maximum motor you can run on a 500-600 mah pack, it would be a good choice for the Reno Racer. My setup turns an APC 8-6 at 7100 RPM static on 8 fresh ni-cds.
Good luck, Dave

2NG
08-13-2002, 12:42 AM
***The best approach is to call Sal at NES and outline what you are looking for. When I bought this package, the total was right near $150. ***

For $30 dollars more and coming from your review, I'm sold, thanks Dave:) I will call Sal tomorrow, they don't answer much through emails..

Thanks a mill.

genovia:cool:

CalmAir
08-13-2002, 01:48 AM
Oh No. Someone is letting 2NG loose with a Reno Racer! The skies will never be the same.:D

Of course I'm kidding 2NG. Your enthusiasm is contagious. Good luck with the new one!

Dale

2NG
08-13-2002, 01:17 PM
***Of course I'm kidding 2NG. Your enthusiasm is contagious. Good luck with the new one! ***

The Freeflight guys are giving me the look... Hehehe.. Man, I love this plane, I've been doing easy circuit around the field, fun and fast... I like the foam concept planes now. Wait t'll I load this baby up with brushless:D ...
My setup is great, the Racer climbs up and get small really fast.

Okay, I did my first roll today:( :(

Calm, Dave,

How do you execute a proper roll? I rolled it and it wouldn't get out of it, it keeps on rolling. CRASHED..

No biggie, I fix it, and flew again, using electrical tape. Same thing, I did a roll and I did a roll, couldn't come out of it.

How to guys? I don't have a clue:confused: I don't know where I put the Backyard Flyer Mag. It talked about it, can find it:(

How to again guys?

Dave Robelen
08-13-2002, 02:42 PM
Hi 2NG,
Boy, you rreally are going at it! Without seeing the way your plane responds, there may be some detail differences, but I will run through the way I would do a single roll (practice on a sim would be a big help here). The first thing I do is get the machine trimmed for straight level flight at full speed. I then fly across the field in front of myself and turn the plane so that it would be doing a flyby front of me if I left it level.
The beginning of a single roll should start a little nose high. With the elevators in neutral, shove the aileron stick to one side. As the model rotates to the inverted, hold the aileron in and move the elevator toward down briefly (this helps keep the model from dropping). As the model comes upright release the stick to neutral and level the wings with the ailerons. You may also want to apply some up elevator at this point to keep the model from dropping.
You will find that power and speed are your buddies in this manuever. If the model is nosing down through the manuever and really dropping, it probably needs more airspeed at the entry.
Good luck, Dave