Team Associated B4 buggy forum v2.0

[drumr racer]

Ole: get yourself some diff lube, green slime, and maintain it well, and it will go fast, and respond fast.
get a pair of front a-arms, they are reversible, so if you break the front right arm, and replace it, and break the right one again, you won't have to get a new set.

Is there somewhere that I could get a chassis sticker/protector. My car bottoms out like a baby trying to walk.

[pudder]

Team Associated makes a big sheet of chassis protector stuff that you just have to cut out. Check it out, it should be on their website at www.rc10.com, or check towerhobbies or something.

[gubby]

well, i wont be able to make it racing tomorrow/satutrday...but i did buy some stuff to get started in novice stock. i bought:

bushing buster
trinity motor spring kit
reedy mvp
3 extra pairs of brushes
set of deans plugs for the motor(im out)

cant wait to race now :D

plus, im kinda sick. i shouldnt be at the track...but boy would i love to be :D

[k_sw31]

I just ordered a hacker master competition to complete my brushless system.

Look out for a lehner powered B4 in the next few weeks, I'll be sure to get some pictures and vids, plus a report of how it handles the power. :)

[pudder]

gubby, if you dont mind me asking, what exactly is the bushing buster, and who makes it? I am guessing it helps break in your bushings or increase the surface area for better performance?

[gubby]

yeah, its made by trinity and it helps break them in faster. it cost about $6 US :eek: for maybe 1 ounce of the stuff. but you only use a few drps per bushing...so it should last a while.

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJY54&P=7

[ole]

Hi guys ! Are these parts interchangeable LEFT & RIGHT front and rear arms, C-hubs, steering blocks and rear hub carriers ? What are the spring rates for front and rear shocks?

[gubby]

i know for sure that the front arms are interchangeable. not the rears(angle of them), hub carriers cant be(angle), i'm pretty sure the C blocks arent(cause i remeber doing that step backwards when i built the kit).

[drumr racer]

gubby has it right, if it has a R or L on it it doesnt flip

[gubby]

went to my second race last night. raced novice electric. used a reedy mvp. placed 5th out of 7 or 8(was in second, but a slow marshall let others pass me, also the little kid-marshalls were fighting over who was gonna set the car down). it was fun though...looks like this is gonna become a habit! w00t w00t!:D

[TPhalen]

As a side note, the B4, in the hands of Billy Easton, has just won the 2003 IFMAR 2WD Worlds in Florida!!!

Congrats to Billy on his awesome drive. He won the first 2 of the triple A-Mains to clinch the win.

[pudder]

Yes, good stuff. :) And congrats to Losi for loosing. :D

[gubby]

Originally posted by pudder
And congrats to Losi for losing. :D

its about time! my friend is drving me nuts...he wont shut up about "losi is better because they win more races"

nice job AE:D

[drumr racer]

Originally posted by pudder
Yes, good stuff. :) And congrats to Losi for loosing. :D
Dude that is good stuff man, lol:) :D ;) :cool:

[Lapster]

hahahah... good job associated!

I knew Lousi could lose.

[AussieSam]

Congratulations Associated,

on winning the worlds a well deserved win but lets us not turn this into a AE is better than Losi excersion or vise versa that is getting so old.

AE World 2wd Champions. :p :p

[chevyman007]

Congrats to AE and Billy on the spank down of losi!!!!

[pudder]

One thing that is pretty funny is on Losi's site, they have video clips of some of the races. One of the clips is of Brian Kinwald eating cake.... :p

[k_sw31]

oinky

[kombat88]

hey i was just wondering if some one could answer a question for me.
Would 11x1 Trinity Retro motor, a 19 tooth pinon, and a Novak super rooster be a good set up for racing (not counting susupension and batteries and all that stuff)

Thanks

[chevyman007]

I would go to a 18t for that 11 turn. That motor will have alot more maintenence than a higher wind so I would get a higher turn motor, but thats just me. Ya, I think its a pretty good setup for mod. But the most important thing is to get the right tires.

[drumr racer]

I don't know about 18 tooth Chevy man, it's a single, I'd say 17 tooth unless the track is very loose, barely any jumps and fast corners. then i'd go with 18

[drumr racer]

umm... I just looked in the book and it said use 19 tooth if it's stock, I would suggest 18 now, unless the track has short straights.

[gubby]

i just ordered the carbon parts set, and have nothing to do, so i started to unassemble the rear end of it for when the parts arrive. in jsut a few minutes, ook at what i was able to accomplish:

[k_sw31]

Yeah, its great! :D

Right now, my B4 is unassembled...waiting for a new rear chassis plate..a 3$ part. The best thing is, I was able to remove it with only taking out one additional part! :D

[gubby]

wow, that pic i took is craptastic:D

maybe flash wasnt on...

[drumr racer]

I just got done cleaning my car, but I got crappy screws in my kit for the rear chassis plate, one still had that insert hex thing in it. Did this happen to anybody else?

[wiseman]

:D I have one man that car is awsome, fast and handles really great with the new tanny the came out with, I have Reedy 14 turn modified in it right now and fast :cool: :cool:

[Jhstud50]

Hey guys, I was wonder when the b5 will come out. I am saving my money for that and I dont want a b4 because i want to wait for the better buggy. Please tell me information about the b5 if you can.:confused:

[k_sw31]

Um...The B4 was released last spring. It will be a LONG time before the next predacessor comes out. I would say atleast 4 years, but more like 6.

[banditwing]

Yeah, the successor to the B4 would be a couple years off. AE designed the B4 to be extremely adjustable so it can adapt to nearly every track. I would go ahead and get the B4 now, or you can wait until sometime next year when they might have a FT out. (Just guessing).

On a side note: I managed to break my first part on the B4 today. A front a-arm. I have smacked a couple of barriers pretty hard and it stood up, but this time it was nearly full throttle into a cement wall and I guess the stress from previous hits just added up. Well one broken part in 3 months isnt too bad.:p Time for graphite!

[drumr racer]

Graphite, or carbon doesn't make it stronger. Carbon makes it weaker. It has less flex, so you're handleing is worse, but on the up-side it weighs less. that's probably the only good thing with it.
get the plastic ones, they cost less, and they're better

[banditwing]

Sorry I forgot to elaborate. I'm not a bad driver and do not crash that often. This crash was while I was spinning around in circles full throttle in my driveway full of leaves (no traction). Anyway, I know the differences between graphite/carbon and the regular plastic. Actually what I had done was buy the Carbon Kit, but not install any of it yet, so I had 2 spare graphite arms, which is what I installed.

[wcoyote_racer]

Carbon just doesn't flex as much. Flex is something you usually do not want in your suspension because it can make the handling change slightly as you go through the corners or over bumps. Most people can't tell the difference though. Usually if you have very irratic handling through the corner, it is due to side bite of the tires. Flexing in the suspension arms can contribute to this even when you have dialed most of it out by camber/caster adjustments (the car would suddenly snap the rear around in the middle of a turn when normally it doesn't). The carbon parts let the suspension/chassis do the work they were intended to do without the suspension side flexing and causing the sidewall of the tires to pick up or lose traction unexpectedly.

The real saver is in weight though. Yes you get less weight but the stiffness of the parts means you won't get away with the hard impacts that the nylon will.

[pudder]

And with carbon, it's just cool, cause you can say you have a full carbon car :D

I have never had a problem with the AE carbon parts. I have had many crashes and not even a crack. :)

[Beaver Phreak]

LOL Pudder :D your not going fasssst enough then! ;)

Just kidding with ya! :cool:



Drive it like ya stole it!!!!!:eek:

[pudder]

Har har... :o

[*Supreme Losi*]

Hey,I'm thinking about getting a B4 for christmas but I don't know if I should ask for one. Please tell me all you know about the B4.Thanks

[pudder]

If you are in the market for a 1/10'th scale buggy, you should go for the B4. The only drawback is that you will have to buy all of the carbon and titanium parts separately right now if you want them because there is no Factory Team available at this time. Another good buggy to get would be the XXX BK2, which is the updated version of the XXX BK buggy featuring some newly redesigned parts.

Personally, I would go for the B4 though, just because I have seen them in comparasion to XXX's, I like them better, and I am also a big AE brand loyal guy.

[drumr racer]

Pudder, since when did you get a b4, I thought you were gonna wait 4 the FT

Please help me with these questions;
What is the measure of the rear shocks? (90mm, or 100mm) it sais 1.02 stroke in the manual, what is stroke
Are the T4 rear shocks the same as b4
Are the RC10GT rear shocks the same as the b4
Is the RC10GT transmission case the same as the b4
Does the RC10GT use the same steering bearings as the B4, and TC3 RC10GT is 3/16 x 5/16

Supreme Losi, I suggest getting the kit b4, because the XXX-BK2 seems the same as the B4, just losi, the B4 is alot easier to wrench on

[k_sw31]

I don't know the measure of the shocks, but I think the stroke is the length of travel when its fully extended or soemthing like that.
The T4 and Gt have larger (longer) shocks than the B4.
The GT uses a different tranny case than that of the B4 and T4


I don't know about the steering bearings though.

[pudder]

No, I still don't have the B4, but I just thought I'd put my opinions in since I am hanging around here. :)

[primuswoostinkinhoo]

anyone have a newer mac, and know how to alter the size of a large picture with the supplied software, i cant seem to find anything like photoshop, ive got an emac with osx, its brand new like 2 months old
i was just trying to post some pics of my ride and its being al gay on me

[k_sw31]

Macs are dumb.

Try uploading your picture at www.******.net and posting the link here.

[speedydave]

On the subject of graphite vs composite parts, when I have enough cash, I'm going to buy the carbon kit, and install everything except the chassis. That way, I have the stock parts as spares, and I get the advantage of the graphite parts(less unsprung weight, stiffer). The problem with running the graphite chassis is that it lowers sprung weight, and while lowering weight in general is a good thing, you generally want to lower unsprung weight to make the suspension able to react faster. By lowering the sprung weight, you make the suspension react slower again, and make the force of gravity on the car's sprung components less, which can make the car get tossed around more. It's hard to explain, but simple once you understand it. Most people I know who have run the graphite chassis said it made the car very twitchy and touchy, and they actually liked the composite chassis/graphite everything else setup best. If what I just said didn't make sense, I'll try to see if I can explain it better, or find something that does.

[microrcdude]

GRAPHITE!!!

[pudder]

Graphite to THE MAX!

[k_sw31]

Graphite maxorized and stuff.

[gubby]

i have every graphite part available minus the chassis....ITS WAY COOL!!!!111! LIKE TOTALLY!1!1!1!11!11!!111111!!

[Jhstud50]

I am going to get the b4 rtr this chirstmas and I want to know what kind of esc and what kind of 17 turn motor comes with it so i know if i need to uprade it. :)

[pudder]

Check associated's website at www.rc10.com for more details on the car.

From what I see the B4 comes with the LRP Runner esc, and possibly rebuildable 17 turn motor. If you are going to be racing, you might want to get a bettter motor and ESC. I had an LRP runner a while ago in a touring car, all I can tell you is this ESC sucks, it heated up on me all the time and eventually it died on me. It is okay for bashing though. The radio system is fine, and most likely comes with a Standard servo.

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs_b4/9050/9050_B4chastop700.jpg

[Jhstud50]

thanks for telling me, i will upgrade the esc with ipc esc and i will upgrade the motor with speed gem pro 11 turn motor.:D

[k_sw31]

Sounds good.

I would also go with a better servo; the stock plastic ones strip out easily.

Look at either the Hitec 625mg or JR racing 590 mg. Both have metal gears, ball bearings, and are much quick than standard servos.

They will cost you around 40$, but are well worth it.

[chevyman007]

I need help setting up my b4 for racing. I know it is a little late in the year to race outside, but oh well! Anyway, everytime I go I always get spanked, and I try everything that I know (which is not much when it comes to tuning) to get it to not spin out at this one corner, I dont know if I am going to fast or what, but I need help tuning it for different track conditions, and I need recommendations on equipment and how to set-up basically. Thanks for your help

[Lapster]

Are you running the tires everyone else is running?

You could have to high of a ride height... and or too stiff suspension. The easiest way to get rid of something like that where you have tried a bunch of stuff is go back to a basic setup... maybe box stock.


What kind of track are u running one... what kind of surface?

[drumr racer]

Originally posted by pudder
Check associated's website at www.rc10.com for more details on the car.

From what I see the B4 comes with the LRP Runner esc, and possibly rebuildable 17 turn motor. If you are going to be racing, you might want to get a bettter motor and ESC. I had an LRP runner a while ago in a touring car, all I can tell you is this ESC sucks, it heated up on me all the time and eventually it died on me. It is okay for bashing though. The radio system is fine, and most likely comes with a Standard servo.

http://www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs_b4/9050/9050_B4chastop700.jpg

Is it me, or do the servo mounts seem different from trhe stock ones in the kit?

[k_sw31]

They look different. Probably the blocky style makes the buggy easier to be assembled at the manufacturer or something.

[chevyman007]

I am running losi x pattern tires, I think that is the name of them. It is what the owner recommend for that track. I am running on a packed little bumpy surface.

[gubby]

TPhalen explained those servo mounts to me a while ago...he said they only work with the stock airtonics 94102 servo.

[*Supreme Losi*]

Does the kit come with aluminum shocks?

[pudder]

All of the versions come with aluminum shocks. That is one good thing about AE, they put aluminum shocks in almost all of their vehicles. :D

[k_sw31]

Yes, it comes with blue anodized shocks. Though they arent as smooth as the hard anodized, teflon coated team shocks are, they are still very nice for an RTR package. :D

[Jhstud50]

I am using my christmas money to get the b4 rtr, not b4 cuz i dont like to bulid, it takes too long. I want to know how fast can the b4 rtr if i used a reedy 2400's battery

[k_sw31]

It will probably hit in the mid 20's...can't say for sure though.

[pudder]

I'd agree, probably above 20 mph.

[Lapster]

Hey guys... any of you going to the Midwest Championships in January? It is at CRCRC in columbus ohio.

www.crcrc.com

[Jhstud50]

Hey, I went searching for the speed on the B4 rtr, it goes to the middle 30's according to the ae company which i sent a email to them and they reply this, "Kit referenced:
Comments: What is the top speed for the B4 rtr?"

"Mid 30s, perhaps.":D

[pudder]

Sadly I highly doubt that. I'd say mid to low 20's.

[k_sw31]

Yeah, I doubt it too.

If you are hitting 28 mph or so with a 17 turn in an off road vehicle you are doing pretty good as it is, you'd probably need at least 7 cells to break 30 mph.

[Lapster]

Yea... josh... no matter how much motor you have... you will never be able to beat me!

And you really should buy the kit... knowing you.... all of the stock electronics will be ripped out and you will have new stuff in. I mean heck... you could have david build it... it isnt hard at all.

[ole]

What pinion do you use on chameleon 2 19t and 13t motor? i'm using the 81t spur.

[k_sw31]

For the chameleon, run about a 23 tooth. For the 13 turn try a 21 tooth.

[drumr racer]

I agree

[go1d1e]

Hey! add me to the club.. I got my B4 now :)


anyone run a LRP ICS esc in there? The old rooster wouldn`t fit under the shell.. so i found a cheap alternative..

and gearing for a trinity p2k2?

[drumr racer]

I'd say 23, or 24

[drumr racer]

actually, if you are a first time driver, go 22. the esc and motor will get hot on a 23,24. Which will make it less efficient, 22 will have pretty good speed, and will keep life in the cheapie.

[Lapster]

With my P2k I use a 23t when the track is wet... and when it is really dry... I loosen the slipper and I also run a 24t pinion... never had any heat problems. A guy that pits with me sometimes runs a 25t pinion with a p2k.

[go1d1e]

First time buggy racer.. but i`ve been racing a few other classes for a while..

Thanks for the help :)
Should have pics of the buggy soon..

[robert L.]

hey guys im goin to be getting a B4 for christmas and what do you think would be the the best stock motor for a B4?

[colinradford]

Reedy MVP is a good all rounder. I also like the Trinity Green Machine 3.

[dog8spam]

Ive heard the PK2 is better for offroad than the Green Machine 3

[robert L.]

how does the monster stock perform in a B4?

[Lapster]

The monster stocks are awesome. Personally I run the fantom version of the monster stock... with trinity 4499 brushes and blue green springs. That combo in a b4 is awesome.

[gubby]

under k_sw31's screenname, it says "titleless"

this may be off topic, but whats up with that? does it mean he got banned or something?(maybe closed his account?) :confused:

[pudder]

I like the Reedy MVP, or the Fantom version of the P2k 2 Pro. I still haven't tried the Monster Horsepower Stock, but I've heard it's very good as well.

[k_sw31]

Custom title. :D

I am not sure on the exact rules, but I can change my title from "Certificable RC Zone Addict" to whatever I like. :)

Its in like the profile options or somethin.

[go1d1e]

Huh.. i`ll have to read that more careful next time.. I thought it said "Tittieless" :cool:

[pudder]

I can also change mine. :D I like this new feature :)

[speedydave]

I'm pretty sure that option opens up when you hit 3000 posts. Crap! I'm only halfway there!

[gubby]

lol...i get it now. too ba i might never reach 3000 posts(im just not into rc cars so much) :(

[pudder]

I was a postaholic a while ago. I've evolved into an alcoholic from that.... I just post in vehicle forums now.

[gubby]

lol

[pudder]

poop dyinkh

[speedydave]

Pudder is an ex-postwhore.

[k_sw31]

yeah, as of now (2 am where pudder is at), he is pretty drunk.

[pudder]

And I can't even edit it either. :o Damn new rules...

[RichieRich]

I remember when pudder first started on this board. He had like three or four weeks where is was making 50-60 posts per day.

[pudder]

Then I started drinking...

[drumr racer]

You probably could change your title name, but your registered date is the date you changed it.

[drumr racer]

oops, I looked at the date below that, mess up, can someone please help me (like an administrator) and delete the one above this, and this one please.
I tried to delete through edit, but it didn't work.
sorry

[pudder]

Don't worry about it man, it happens to the best of us. :)

[speedydave]

How do you think pudder got where he is today? ;)

[k_sw31]

Pudder owes it all to AA....

Thats AA as in "Abundant Alcohol" not "Alcohol Anonymous"...silly. :D

[gubby]

^LoL!

pudder, you should really listen to the song "cold ethyl" by alice cooper. i have a vision that he is describing you throughout the song! hehehe :p

[pudder]

Kinda like this?

http://midcanrc.mine.nu/pudder/DSC06457.JPG

Well at least this has taken some time to fill the lack of RC talk :)

[k_sw31]

Yeah, just like that.

I like this pic the best though:
http://midcanrc.mine.nu/pudder/DSC02116.JPG

[pudder]

LOL, ya, that was my haloween costume I used last year... was pretty hot with the pillow stuffed in there too.

[gubby]

O_o

i was eddie(iron maiden mascot) for the first half of halloween this year, then i got tired of wearing the mask so i pulled my shirt over my head and was cornholio...I NEED TP FOR MY BUNGGGHOLE!


heheheh

[pudder]

Wow... this thread has gone so off topic!

[k_sw31]

Yeah. meh.

I ran around this neighborhood with some other people and emtied all the bowls. I did wear a leather jacket though, cuz it was really cold.

[super_maxx]

im planing on geting a b4 whats the differ from the rtr and the kit i know elecs but like rolling chassis differs

[pudder]

I believe the main differences are the kit has teflon coated shock bodies, and the RTR has blue annodized. Other than that I dont know of any differences besides the lack of electronics in the kit. :)

[k_sw31]

Ya, basically the shocks and dogbones are the only differences.

On another note, I finally broke the original bulkhead/hinge pin brace that came with my B4, I beleive it was in the first batches, before it was updated...

Not bad, I have really put this sucker through its paces. :)

[Lapster]

Teh... anyone who has seen one of your videos could back you up on that...:p

[k_sw31]

Heh. :)

That reminds me, check out a few of my vids:

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=17645
45 foot jump... ~700 kb

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=17644
extended vid of some bashing, ~10 megs

um...how ghey, they sensor the "rc pics" link.

Just replace ****** with "rc pics" (without a space)

[pudder]

That's weak.

[gubby]

Originally posted by k_sw31
Ya, basically the shocks and dogbones are the only differences.

On another note, I finally broke the original bulkhead/hinge pin brace that came with my B4, I beleive it was in the first batches, before it was updated...

Not bad, I have really put this sucker through its paces. :)

you mean you still had that piece of, err, junk? i boguth the aluminum one first chance i got!

[gubby]

wow O_O maybe i need to try a 45 ft. jump...i have a ramp like that that i built...time to strap in the 14 turn KR and see what that ramp can do! (err, maybe when i stiffen up the suspension a tad to help with bottonming out)

[k_sw31]

Originally posted by gubby
you mean you still had that piece of, err, junk? i boguth the aluminum one first chance i got!

"If it aint broke, don't fix it" :)

I will probably buy the aluminum one now though (bulkhead and brace combo probably)

Yeah, with that 45 footer I still wasn't winding up all the way, I'd say I could ramp atleast 50 feet, not to smart to do it on asphault though. :p

[gubby]

at the end of the 10MB video, you had a really nice wing there! :D

LoL!

[k_sw31]

Yeah, that wing has been through some tough times, I folded it back though.

I ordered another wing, I should probably get around to painting that.

[go1d1e]

Anyone squeezed a Novak SS in the B4 yet?

any clues on gearing? I`m going to run it in the stock class to start with.. so I gotta figure out the modes..

[gubby]

yup, i finally got a replacement board(a HUGE plywood board) for the one my dad left at his friend's house. im gonna have my friend come over for a day of bashing(set the board up on jackstands, its perfect for a jump). hell, i feel more like bashing today than racing at the track...so...bashing! (and maybe that track after bashing theheheheheh) :cool:

as for the novak brushless question, ask k_sw31. he had a vid with one in it. im not going brushless for a looooonnnngggg time(until theyre cheaper)

[k_sw31]

I dont have the novak setup, I have a hacker/lehner combo. Considering how big the hacker esc is, I'm sure you could squeeze a novak in there. For gearing I would start off with a 21 tooth and move up from there.

[gubby]

when i got the carbon front shock tower it took me about 10 minutes to install the ballstuds onto it because i was stuck using some little pliers. so i made T H I S (http://www.rc10b4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=35653#post35653) topic explaining how i fixed it! :p

[xxxkat]

Have you guy's tried the Trinity rear hubs? I bought a set and was wondering ??

[drumr racer]

I got a Novak Super Sport, and I race it in stock novice class, my track is pretty tight so I run a 20 tooth, but I would run a 21 if I had the money. if it is a long track try 23
I run it because I can't afford a ne stock motor, or a lathe

[go1d1e]

Yea, I got it for stock racing.. got the ok from the two tracks I race at so far..

put a 19 on it to start with, get good speed and accerleration.. so i`ll see what happens at the track.. the indoor is REAL tight, but quick.. 10 second lap average..

the other track is big with a 115' straight.. so we`ll see how it goes

[k_sw31]

115' back stretch? that sounds pretty big.

For the tight indoor track I would try a 19 tooth for starters. For the bigger track start off with a 22-23 tooth for some better speed. Don't overgear it too much though, or heat will build up, and run times will decrease.

[Fluke]

Is the wing angle important.If it is,which angle would you recommend for bashing?0,3 or 6?

[Lapster]

You wont notice when you are bashing... I would reccomnd 0* for less wind resistence.

[adam lancia]

has anyone noticed that the sponsored racers are listing (on their setup sheets on AE's website) that they have used the RTR dogbones and stub axles instead of the cvd's? does anyone know why? thanks,

adam

[Lapster]

Here is is K_SW31...

[Lapster]

Sorry guys.... me and K SW were tryin to do it over AOL but this was easier.... this is a battery that blew up in my face... im ok now.:D

[xxxkat]

The dog bones free up the rear suspension.

[adam lancia]

do they make that much of a difference? i thought the cvd's would be just as free...thanks,

adam

[xxxkat]

Thats what I thought but all the team drivers are using them and if their was not much difference I would think they would be using the cvd's.I am going to pick up a set and try them out.

[pudder]

How did that battery get like that?!

[bomber 1]

howdy everybody
well i guess i am the newby to the b4 forum and i just wanted to say hello.

[k_sw31]

hi

[pudder]

I agree.

[k_sw31]

I concur

[pudder]

I think we scared them off...

[k_sw31]

I see eye to eye with you pudder.

[drumr racer]

lol you guys crack me up and Fred... wait Fred where did you go, ohh there you are my little b4

[gubby]

holy **** lapster! howd toy manage to do that? LoL

yeah, so....uhh....i think i wanna go racing this friday(as long as it doesnt rain). its beena few months since my last race(and it was only my second) and i want to go agaiN! NOW! lol

[drumr racer]

cool gubby, what pinion are you running?

[speedydave]

My friend's nitro truck's rx pack blew up in our faces once...That was fun...

[Lapster]

Ask Mr. Reedy.... there was no current going into it... and the pack wasnt burt or anything... it just blew.

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by speedydave
My friend's nitro truck's rx pack blew up in our faces once...That was fun...
LOL:D :D

[jnegrx]

The same thing happened to a friend of mine. He was driving home after a race and the pack just blew up. He had it in a case made to carry batteries so we were surprised to see how much damage was done. Out of 5 packs he could only save one.

I can only guess he had a little piece of metal(maybe a screw) in the box and that caused a short.

[gubby]

Originally posted by drumr racer
cool gubby, what pinion are you running?

uh, i think ive been running a 21 tooth pinion with a stock spur(Reedy mvp motor)

[BrushlessHawaii]

Whats up B4 Guys My Kit will be here today I can't wait.

[chevyman007]

Niiiice. Have a fun time building it. Do they have any tracks in hawaii?

[BrushlessHawaii]

I'm not in Hawaii

I had a brushless novak ss in a Super hawaii Boat.

Im in Louisville, Kentucky.

I got my buggy built in one night and painted the next day.

I still need to buy all my electronics though.

the only thing I have is my motor.

[gubby]

i built mine in about a night also, broke into the kit around 5 pm, stopped for the night at 11:30 ish, woke up at 7 am to finish the shocks/paint the body/put in the electronics. then it was off to the track! LoL

[ole]

what type of servo is best for my b4 high torque or high speed servo?

[BrushlessHawaii]

I think High Torque

[pudder]

You want to have a good amount of both. For the B4 I'd have to say lean more towards high speed. Buggies dont really have much steering resistance to turn those small wheels, so you don't need much power.

[bomber 1]

hey for my b4 i am going to be runnig a p2k2 and i was wondering if a 24 tooth pinion is right.
Also does the b4 body come precut with holes or do you have to do that. I am not sure thanks

[xxxkat]

Man..I've had mine for weeks,put all the hop up's on it,still have not gotten around to painting it or putting all the radio gear in it.and that's the same for my T4 also. :rolleyes:

[go1d1e]

RE Servo..

I run a Hitec 645 in mine.. only free one I had out of hte inferno.. This servo is good, but waay too slow. I`m looking to replace it with a 625, maybe a 925..

[cbr74]

Definitely go for the 9 series. Coreless, better centering, and more reliable than the 6 series.

[pudder]

I have the Hitec 625. I got it because they are good servos and my budget would not be able to accept a more expensive model, I have no complaints about speed, torque, or durability, it has been a great servo all around.

[xxxkat]

I dont like and wont use hitec servos,I have had to many problems with them.on my B4 I am using an airtronics 94357 and on my T4 I use a 94358,you get what you pay for,buy a cheap servo and that's what you get.. a cheap servo.

[cbr74]

Some people just don't have good luck with Hitec, others do. I've never had a 9 series Hitec fail me, but for my serious vehicles (like my 1/8 buggy) I do defer to the more expensive Airtronics 94358Z's.

[BrushlessHawaii]

I swear by my Hitek Products - of course I've never ran their cheap stuff.

also re body - the B4 is not precut or drilled - however it does have dimples in the body marking the mounting positions

[xxxkat]

On mounting the body do what most people do,use velcro,it works,your body wont come off. ;)

[BrushlessHawaii]

Originally posted by xxxkat
On mounting the body do what most people do,use velcro,it works,your body wont come off. ;)

some run velcro only some run clips only, some run a mixture.

I like the velcro Idea mixed with the clips personally. I like Something as a back up in case of Vecro failure or if a turn marshal picks up the body only. LOL

[xxxkat]

Not if you use the good velcro,the cheap stuff will,I bought some at costco(25ft,3in wide).. :D I can hardly get the body off..LOL

[drumr racer]

how much did that velcro cost?

[adam lancia]

xxxkat, sorry to hear that you've had bad luck with your previous hitec servos. i've got three of them and have only sent 1 in for repait and that was a 605mg that i've had for four years. i;ve got 2 of their 5925 digital servos and they are awesome. no problems with them.

ole: if you can swing it, get your hands on either a 5625 or 5925 servo. they're both digital but the 5925 is a little faster and a little stronger.

adam

[xxxkat]

The velcro was $19.95,but I will never have to buy velcro again.. :D

[bomber 1]

hey for my b4 i am going to be runnig a p2k2 and i was wondering if a 24 tooth pinion is right.

can someone answer me this question thanks

[Lapster]

With the stock spur I run a 24 or 23 tooth pinon. Depending on conditions.

And who in their right mind would pay 20$ for velcro? I got mine at home depot for 3$. It did my b4, t4, and my Dad's B3. And I stil have about enough to do another car.

[xxxkat]

I guess the same person who would need the velcro for other uses,this is not the same stuff you get at home depot either.

[chevyman007]

Im getting a TC3 racer with the chrysler body for x-mas to race on my local tracks indoor carpet in the winter and outdoor asphalt in the summer!!!!! Does anybody have any suggestions or comments on how well the TC3 performs stock? thanks again!

[chevyman007]

Sorry about that. wrong thread
but i also have a B4 and its awesome to!

[gubby]

Originally posted by chevyman007
Im getting a TC3 racer with the chrysler body for x-mas to race on my local tracks indoor carpet in the winter and outdoor asphalt in the summer!!!!! Does anybody have any suggestions or comments on how well the TC3 performs stock? thanks again!

ROTF LOL! hehehe, for some reason that post on the wrong thread amused me :D

[drumr racer]

I'm guessing you were a little bit on the tired side.

[k_sw31]

dag, yo.

[gubby]

dag? wha? am i missing something?

[k_sw31]

I'm gansta.

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by k_sw31
I'm gansta.
Woah, are we getting off topic again??? LOL

[k_sw31]

If you would like to.

[NitroBoy24]

Anyone here have a B4 RTR??? My friend is getting one this christmas (well actually friday but he has to wait, haha) and I want a T4 rtr for my birthday and I dont think theyre out yet (although tower had em in stock a few days ago) and the B4 rtr is the closest Ill get so, ya...
NitroBoy24

[NitroBoy24]

Once again I quote myself while meaning to hit "edit" :rolleyes: :D.

I meant to say at the end of my first post that the B4 rtr is the closest Ill get to the T4 rtr for right now.
NitroBoy24 (again)

[k_sw31]

Originally posted by NitroBoy24
Anyone here have a B4 RTR??? My friend is getting one this christmas (well actually friday but he has to wait, haha) and I want a T4 rtr for my birthday and I dont think theyre out yet (although tower had em in stock a few days ago) and the B4 rtr is the closest Ill get so, ya...
NitroBoy24

[k_sw31]

Originally posted by NitroBoy24
Anyone here have a B4 RTR??? My friend is getting one this christmas (well actually friday but he has to wait, haha) and I want a T4 rtr for my birthday and I dont think theyre out yet (although tower had em in stock a few days ago) and the B4 rtr is the closest Ill get so, ya...
NitroBoy24

I have a B4.

That is pretty close.

[NitroBoy24]

Ill make this post worth being posted so how do you like your B4?? What electronics do you have in it? Anything else you like about and or dont like about?

[k_sw31]

Haha.

I love my B4. Durable a rock, if you scroll back a page or two you can find the links to a few of my vids. Honestly my only complaint about it is the fact that it is a buggy, and not totally fitted to my needs. On the other hand, I'm looking at a T4 so its all good. :)

I generally run my hacker/lehner brushless setups and 6 cells.

[k_sw31]

Originally posted by k_sw31
Heh. :)

That reminds me, check out a few of my vids:

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=17645
45 foot jump... ~700 kb

http://www.******.net/view_single.php?medid=17644
extended vid of some bashing, ~10 megs

um...how ghey, they sensor the "rc pics" link.

Just replace ****** with "rc pics" (without a space)

Vid links and stuff.

I'm just a little post ***** tonight. :)

[NitroBoy24]

Originally posted by k_sw31
Vid links and stuff.

I'm just a little post ***** tonight. :)

Shizah that is one durbale buggy!!! Im looking at putting a Novak SS in a T4, well that is if I get one :D. For a tiny jump that was one extremely long jump! I think its BS how there putting the little **** things in for links...But you explained it the same way I did, put in rc pics w/o a space.

[k_sw31]

Yeah, its one durable buggy.

Glad to see you're gettin brushless too. :)

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by k_sw31
I have a B4.

That is pretty close.
LOL:D

[minimole]

hi, my name is Duane Walker a.k.a. minimole, i am 13, and i live in the UK. i have had a few cars, including a kyosho alpha ep2, a jp chadori, a hpi sprint gti, and a hpi elecrtic rs4 mt, which i sold recently.
i sold i becuase it didnt go as fast as i would of liked, so ive nnow decided to get a b4.
i hope to be getting a second hand b4 straight after christmas,(so i can get it cheaper, and also i will have more money) although if i cant, i will just get a rtr.
as i sold my last car on ebay ready to run, i now need to buy new electronics, and im not sure what to get.
i will only be using it for bashing, so i want quite good run-times, as well as quite good speeds.
i already have 2 very nice 3000 team sanyo matched packs (i got them for 30gbp, a real bargain!!), which i actually got today(i had them assembled with deans plugs proffesionally:) )
i also have a lrp discharger, and a mains/12v fast charger.
this mean that i need to get radio gear, and esc and motor. i will probbaly just get standard 27mhz radio gear, with an ok-ish ball raced servo.
so what i need to know is what motor and esc to get.
i was thing of maybe a 14t motor, but im not sure what kind of runtimes ill be gettting.
also, i want the esc to be reversing. it would be nice if it was waterproof(it rains a lot in england:( ), but this is not essential. ive had quiet a few m.troniks esc's, and have found that they worked very well, although i know that many people arnet too keen on them:confused:
as i live in the uk, i might not be able to get some stuff, maybe some of you live in England, and you can say.
i cant spend to much on the electrics, maybe 45gbp on the motor, and 50gbp on the sec.
sorry its been a long post, but oh well:rolleyes:
thanks, Duane:D

[NitroBoy24]

My friend Jacob (mytruckwontrun) got a RTR B4 today when I went with him to a hobby shop. What do you guys think the best upgrade (besides of a motor/esc) is for a B4?? Hopefully he can take it for a test drive today with a racers edge 3000 pack :D

[gubby]

hey k_sw31, are you smoking something? :confused: lol

your posts are a lil out there... LoL

[gubby]

nitroboy- i would say:

the correct tires
deans plugs (or similar low resistance plugs)
spring set (for suspsension)


and, im prolly forgetting A LOT (which means tell him more guys lol)

[go1d1e]

Originally posted by minimole
so what i need to know is what motor and esc to get.
i was thing of maybe a 14t motor, but im not sure what kind of runtimes ill be gettting.
also, i want the esc to be reversing. it would be nice if it was waterproof(it rains a lot in england:( ), but this is not essential. ive had quiet a few m.troniks esc's, and have found that they worked very well, although i know that many people arnet too keen on them:confused:
as i live in the uk, i might not be able to get some stuff, maybe some of you live in England, and you can say.
i cant spend to much on the electrics, maybe 45gbp on the motor, and 50gbp on the sec.
sorry its been a long post, but oh well:rolleyes:
thanks, Duane:D


Hey Duane,

If you are just bashing, I can`t recommend the Novak SS Brushless system enough! AWESOME speed, and great run times.. and NO maintenance!! My brother still lives over in the UK and I found him one on the used board here for 150 USD, which cost him a little under 100 UKP with shipping.. so it is a great deal if you keep your eyes open for one!

As for radio gear, don`t go cheap.. you`ll regret it.. try and see if you can get something like a Hitec Lynx3D, or the new CRX..

Lastly, some sites for you to checkout..

www.maxbashing.com
www.topoptions.com - Might be .co.uk don`t remember..
www.rchopups.co.uk


And have fun with it!

[k_sw31]

Not smoking anything...

Drinking though. ;)

If you are bashing I would highly recommend brushless....it is so worth it.

Other than that, basic hopups for the B4 are as follows...
Aluminum hingepin brace and/or bulkhead
Ti turnbuckles are nice to have
RPM gear cover
Good tires (dirt hawgs are teh best for bashing)

All this stuff will make your B4 pretty much indestructible. :)

[minimole]

yeah, i know that i'd love to get a brushless but i cant find any, and also they are quite expensive for a thirteen year old, whos will of probabbly just bought a b4!
Also, i want to get the car running asap, so i can use it as much in the holidays, before i go back to school. so basically i will have to settle with a brushed motor.
so what do you clever guys, or b4 bashers recommend.
please answer asap, as i wanmt to buy stuff soon afetr chrstmas.
thanks Duane

[Lapster]

If you want to be fast with not a lot of maintenance... go BL... but you obviously dont want to do that. I would suggest a Chameleon 19t motor. Pretty low maintenance.... but faster than a stock motor. If you get the 19t running right... you will like it.

Or just a trinity monster horsepower. Thats what I run whenever I race... and a P2k for one of my practice motors.

[go1d1e]

There are many used ones around.. maybe not on this forum, but I have seen some here...


http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=24266&highlight=novak+brushless - $170

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29571&highlight=novak+brushless - $200


Keep looking.. it`ll save you time and money in the long run..

If you went Mod motor, your looking anywhere from 30-60 bucks, then a decent ESC will cost you 80-150 bucks.. just makes sense to me.. you don`t need to get a lathe, or dismantle it every 10 runs, or buy new brushes....

[Lapster]

If you went Mod motor, your looking anywhere from 30-60 bucks, then a decent ESC will cost you 80-150 bucks.. just makes sense to me.. you don`t need to get a lathe, or dismantle it every 10 runs, or buy new brushes....

Or be allowed to race!:p

[go1d1e]

thats down to the track.. I race my BL at both tracks I run at..

no, I won`t be able to run at any ROAR events.. but I don`t want too, I suck too much for that :p

[minimole]

im also thinkin of getting a 19t motor. is the chameleon good? i had an element before, quite good, but not very quick, (although i suppose its becuase it was in a hpi rs4 mt, which isnt a very efficient truck...)
i was also thinking about the team orion pro bb2 17t, or 14t motor, but i havent heard much on this forum. will a 19t be good in a b4, and if so, what one should i get.
and then, what esc should im get?

please reply asap, as i would like to order wednesday morning.
thanks a lot
Duane

[microrcdude]

Get this:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXFBH5&P=7
Or this:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXEXL2&P=7

[minimole]

im now thinking of getting the reedy motor, it looks quite good. i would like to get the epic motor, but i dont know where to get it in the UK, if any of you lot know where, id be grateful.
i heard that the reedy motor is equivanlent to a 14t doub;le, is this true? Have any of you had experince with this motor?
also, what esc should i then get.
thanks:)

[go1d1e]

Hey Duane.. go and ask on www.maxbashing.com there are a bunch of brits on there selling/trading gear..

OR, PM a 'Deviant' on here, he has a bunch of motors and a lathe he`s trying to sell on, maybe even an LRP ESC.. - he just went BL

[minimole]

im now leaning more towards that reedy 19t motor, although im open for suggestions...
So now i need to decide on the esc.
i would like it to be about a 15t limit, and must be reversing.
Anyone used this motor before?What do you think of it?
Thanks Duane:p

[minimole]

oh, i was just wondering does the team kit come with blue turnbuckles, cos in some of the pics on rc10.com it does, and on others it doesnt. Duane:confused:

[microrcdude]

No, it comes with black steel turnbuckles

[minimole]

thanks, its just that in this link: www.rc10.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs_b4/features_b4stealth.htm
it shows the turnbuckles as blue ali ones.
Oh well, but isnt that a bit naughty of associated?

Anyway, is the LRP quantum reverse agood esc, as someone on another board recommended it? Any of you had experience with this? It would probably be used with the trinity quad spec motor, as that motor looks quite good.
Thanks, all opinions welcome, please say what yoyu think, as i want to know as soon as poss so i can buy the stuff.........
Duane:)

[microrcdude]

did you look at the bottom of the page? it says
Due to ongoing R&D to improve our kits, some photos and descriptions may not accurately reflect the latest edition

[microrcdude]

It's fine for a beginner, but we like to get these instead:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRE95&P=7
This esc has no motor limit, so if you want a faster motor in the future, you just have to change the motor.

[minimole]

i wouldnt mind getting this esc, but its quite p`ricey, 80 pounds over here in England, o ill probably get the quantum reverse esc. would this work well with the reedy quad 19t motor?
What sort of runtimes and speeds would i be getting with this setup?
Thanks Duane:cool:

[minimole]

what pinion gear should i get if i use this setup?
i would like good acceleration, but more improtantly top speed.
What would you recommend
Duane:confused:

[marcusg]

Gentlemen, I'm going to get the RTR version and I was wondering what upgrades/hop-ups do you recommend ? No bling bling type of hop-ups, but ones that are really needed and/or actually improve the car. Thanks in advance, and any help would be greatly apprecciated.

Marcusg

[chevyman007]

Well to me the B4 rocks out of the box! I havent put any hop ups on it at all, well except for some RPM ball cups. And if you are going to be racing get some new rear tires, bow-ties, losi x-2000's and such.

[pudder]

mmmmm... pie...

[Jhstud50]

my stock steel turnbuckles snapped 3 times! How can steel be broken io half?! I am planning to get blue titanium turnbuckles and are they stronger than steel?:confused:

[gubby]

Originally posted by pudder
mmmmm... pie...

sneaking into the holiday pie already, eh? ;)

[k_sw31]

lo

[*Supreme Losi*]

catfight going on in here?
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p

[Breakin2]

I asked this on a couple other forums, but I figure you guys would know best: Did I get a good deal on this car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3165198647&category=2565&rd=1

[gubby]

Yeah you did! :D

[Lapster]

my stock steel turnbuckles snapped 3 times! How can steel be broken io half?! I am planning to get blue titanium turnbuckles and are they stronger than steel?


Hehe.... Josh... how are you SNAPPING turnbuckles.... I have only bent the steel ones... then I finally got the Ti turnbuckles... the AE blue ones actually. And yes... they are just about indescructable.


How has racing been?

[pudder]

I've never snapped a steel turnbuckle either... well, not an associated one anyways. I've actually managed to bend a blue titanium one on my B3 once by running over it with a full size car. :rolleyes: But I managed to bend it back.

[Lapster]

Well... you should see Josh drive.... it is pretty funny when he is hyper.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

Hey guys,

I got a B4 for Christmas, and it is the coolest thing ever! Although it is completely stock, me and my sister run into each other and bash everywhere (she has an HPI RS4 MT), and I haven't broke anything yet (neither has the MT, which I believe is very durable despite what people say).

However, I am already lookin at those shiny aluminum parts :cool:

First off, can someone show me the aluminum hinge-pin brace or the aluminum bulkhead? I heard that you only need one or the other, but I want both ;)

Also, besides titanium turnbuckles, what is the first major mod I need? I am very interested in competitive racing with it. Finally, how many turns low can I go in my motor to still be able to race, more than likely in a ROAR-sanctioned race? Or does it just depend on the track?

Thanks for the help, and thanks Team A for a great buggy! Losi stinks!

[pudder]

Need every blue RPM upgrade as well to race competetively.

Um, you can see the blue trinity braces and other parts at www.teamtrinity.com

[gubby]

Originally posted by pudder
Need every blue RPM upgrade as well to race competetively.



LoL...! you dont need them, but those RPM parts are very strong, the ballcups and gear covers are good investments (havent tried anything else yet)

[pudder]

Yes, you do NEED every blue RPM part if you want to race competetively! ;)

[gubby]

lmao, youre one funny guy pudder...


*whisper*you do not NEED the RPM parts to be competitive*whisper*

[pudder]

Thats it! We're gonna meet up with equally equipped B4's, you can have your poopy black ae plastic parts and I will come down on you with all the power of my blue RPM equipped B4! muhahahahahah!

[microrcdude]

you must have blue RPM parts to be fast!!!! Right, pudder?

[microrcdude]

Originally posted by HPI-Fan-4-Ever
Losi stinks!
I agree with you on that one!!

[k_sw31]

Losi stinks worser that my poop.

And you do need rpm blue parts to be the best.

[HPI-Fan-4-Ever]

You know what I'm glad of, is that Team Associated didn't imprint "Graphite" all over the B4 on every piece they could possible think of....

imagine...

if every part of the car was imprinted with what it was made of?:confused::confused::confused::confused::confus ed::confused:

Losi stinks so bad it makes a dead skunk smell attractive! :cool:

[pudder]

Ya, stupid Losi.

[Lapster]

And you do need rpm blue parts to be the best.

hehe.... you mean the best at crashing... I saw your video...you cant hide it:p


Losi stinks so bad it makes a dead skunk smell attractive!

What are you smokin??? I have never even had the faintest thought of something smelling worse than dead skunk... I think I would drive a Losi rather than small a dead skunk:D :cool:

[pudder]

Skunk stink to the max.

[gubby]

Originally posted by pudder
Thats it! We're gonna meet up with equally equipped B4's, you can have your poopy black ae plastic parts and I will come down on you with all the power of my blue RPM equipped B4! muhahahahahah!

yes you will, since i havnet been to a race since around halloween :( (what can i say, im too lazy to go the track :p )

[pudder]

Hey, atleast yo uhave racing now still. I have a 2 month break from november to jan from racing seasons. :(

[drumr racer]

What are you smokin??? I have never even had the faintest thought of something smelling worse than dead skunk... I think I would drive a Losi rather than small a dead skunk:D :cool: [/B]
actually, on the MTV show Jack*ss, Johny Knoksville drove around a little Radioshack type rc car with a dead skunk laying on top, scaring people, it was pretty funny. He drove it by this homeless guy that was talking to him

Homeless guy: I used to drive one of those
Johny Knocksville: I don't think so
HG: no I really had a real one
JK: a skunk
HG: no I used to race them... RC cars
JK: what are you talking about, you can't race a skunk
it was pretty funny at that part, maybe the title was skunkmobile

[pudder]

Lol, ya I remember that one. I think I have the same kind of radio shack truck he drove around too. :D

[Jhstud50]

I was wondering about this question. How fast can the fastest b4 can go?:D Also, it is true what tidd said about me getting hyper driving.:eek: I broke my turnbuckle by getting smacked by an e-maxx my car rolled over first and the mt went full speed at my front and crashed it so bad on purpose. I am angry at that driver!!!:mad:

[pudder]

Fastest B4? Well I dont know how fast the fastest B4 has gone, but if oyu had an excellent brushless setup, I'm sure you could make it go upwars of 70 mph maybe.

About that emaxx hitting you, you should report him to your race director/track owner or someone of that authority. People that hit your car like that on purpose should have to pay for the parts that they break. I know if someone did anything like that at my track they'd have to pay for the parts forsure.

[Lapster]

Josh... you hsould have done the breaking the wrist thing to that driver... I'm sure he would stop.:p