Neo 1/10th 200mm tnt, Attack 235mm, Saber 1/8th

[Saboteur]

I've created this thread because it doesnt make sense talking about a neo car on a megatech xt razor thread. I hope I find other users on here who own one of these great cars. I have a neo tnt 1/10th sedan with a m16 engine and man does it haul. Its loaded with upgrades, lots of adjustments can be made, and its handling is superb. IMO ill be race a neo car for every nitro onroad class, a 1/10th 200mm sedan, 235mm, and 1/8th onroad. Also I dont know any car kits that come with a centax clutch system and all for a reasonable price, do you? :cool: :p :D

My car pics are on this thread http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96633

[big2wons]

Do you have the pro version??? I'm wondering if the linkage is set up for a slide or rotary carb???

[Saboteur]

It can accept slide or rotary carb engines. I have the regular version. But here is the thing. The neo sedan is called the TNT in the US while in other countries called the t21. Also the t21 sport came with a metal upper deck chassis, no graphite parts and some sport engine from neo. The pro version came with the graphite parts and the pivot ball suspension. Now the neo tnt sold at AHC, the regular kit comes with the graphite parts, and is available with a body, less engine, or with body and engine. Both require radio gear. The pro version requires a tuned pipe, engine, body and radio gear. BTW I change the servo horn on my car so the linkage is setup better and not wobbly.

[rc4me2]

with a width of 243 mm, how does this car legally compete in the 235mm class???

[Saboteur]

I dont think thats really the measure of the car. But still, Ive seen them being raced in the 235mm class.

[rc4me2]

if you compete at a regional, and especially a national event, they're sure to measure the car
in a class defined by it's width, why wouldnt neo make this car "legal"?
if anyone knows anything more about this issue, it would be greatly appreciated...

the car seems well worth the small amt of $, but if its not legal in its intended class, its utterly useless

thanks

[Saboteur]

Man I keep trying to upload the picture here but it keeps saying the file it too big. Its really pissing me off man. :mad: Anyway there was a guy who race his neo attack at the Florida Gas nationals. I think you could adjust the pivotballs to make it 235mm.

[CAMRY17]

Good to see other NEO fans. I thought I was the only 1.

I have 2 neo's both the t21 or TNT.

One is a fullhopped up pro version with the blade adjustable bars front and rear. I've had these for 2.5 years even befoore the NTC3 or MTX3 had them. A very underrated car.

I have retired this from touring racing and have had a JP black 15 and now a Novarossi R1 JP Black 21 in it. Man does it haul ass and the good thing is it only took a small amount of dremal work to fit.

The car is standard and handles the hp of a 21 easily. Onlpy changed to a gear diff in the rear.

This car handles, and is lighter than a 1/8th scale so It is good to get carpark bragging rights.

Lastly, my other t21 has the centre fuel tank upgrade with all the alloy bits and runs a jp black RS12 and has no problem keeping up with the lastest cars.

All I can say is a great car which I have had for 3 years and has never let me down or made me look like a beginner of a driver.

[CAMRY17]

Just checked out your ride on other thread. Nice, just like when mine was new.

Suggest you do the following and I know the car will be the best on your track.

1) Fit gear diff to rear and fill with 3000 weight fliud and lock up front ball diff and tight as you can, but remember the nut will ,strip if to tight. If you want the serpent Impulse onway fits or run the ball diff loose and run 30-50,000 weight fluid in rear just like a oneway.

2) Upgrade to the blade type bars front and rear. Improves handling 100% over kit ones.

3) Get the thread washers for the shocks makes fine tuning heaps better.

4) on the rear near the rear bumper the hinge pins on the rearr arms will loosen if not set properly. Fix by cutting small area in the pin where it meets the grub screw on the front of the arms. Will not move then.

5) Use washer on shocksand all ends such as for the camber adjustment as in heavey racing accidents this will pop out and this will save the rear dog bones or use front for rear.

6) Get the serpent impulse foam bumper and zip tie to plastic bumper in centre of belt and put zip tie to shock tower. Acts just like upper mounting on other tourers. I've crashed my t21pro with the 21 at 75mph and this has survived and potecerted the chassis.

7) The screws on the mounting of the fuel tank to the chassi become lose over time. Put a nut under the chassis plate and no more problems.

Hope this helps:D

[CAMRY17]

Lastly, NEO TNT can suffer from b eing too narrow and if you extend pivot balls it can weaken in crash.

Simple fix get tamyia long hexes for tl01. $3 fix and gives your 200mm right on the nose. and with pivot balls not stressed handles and performs better.

Cheers

[Saboteur]

Hey I thought I posted a reply for this thread...ah well. Thanx for the tips dude. :) BTW my car came with ball diffs in the front and rear. Still, in stock form it handles VERY well even if it isnt fully 200mm. So far I havent even broken a single part on it and I like its handling at the track. The m16 really hauls in this vehicle, but later on I still plan to get a new engine. Maybe if I change the stock tires for some slicks or foams and a new engine I know Id have to change the suspension setup again, which I am currently experimenting with. There is a guy running a fantom in his neo tnt and dude, it flies. Hey, you mean the stock hexes from a tl01 kit will work or is there a longer one? My car came kit didnt come with the pivot ball suspension, though I wont really need it for now.

[Saboteur]

Oh yeah what do you mean the center fuel tank upgrade? Is there an upper deck that allows the fuel tank to be mounted in the center of the chassis? If so let me know. :cool:

[CAMRY17]

If you want simple upgrade. Put the neo red srings on the front, standard yellow rear with 70 front and 40 rear weight shock oil. Car will handle on like it's on rails.

Also set ball diff to tight on front and just biting on the rear. Cornering will be heaps better than kit set up. Also run foams. Most NEO guys I know run 45 shore front and 40 to 35 rear. Best balance for most tracks.

Laslty, yes there is a upgrade for the center fuel tank it gives you new 4mm chassis and 2mm graphite upper plase with alloy brace holders.

[CAMRY17]

Just checked your pictures. You can replace blue bottom chassis with 3mm upgrade. Car will be heaps better.

Also do you just have the plastic disc brake or the fibre one. If you want to stop on a dime install the fibre uprgrade disc or if you cannot get it the thunder tiger TSN4 carbon fiber one fits stright onto the shaft bracket, just remember to use some gasket paper to help slow down or cheap trick is some wet n dry sand paper glue to steel pads.

[Saboteur]

Sweetness. Thanx for the tips dude. :cool: :) Got a site for that center fuel tank upgrade? BTW I believe its a fiber disc brake.

[Saboteur]

Got some cash from X-mas. Not sure as to what I will buy. For now I wont be going to the local track since its TOO crowded and too cold to go all the way down there with no car (gotta take a bus). I'll think about some stuff I will get for my ride. :)

[big2wons]

Does anyone know where you can get decent instructions for building this car... The instructions SUCK so bad... it basically skips everything except the radio plate, engine and pipe mounting and has some nominal directions for the front and rear suspension... That's it. Nothing on the drive line, 2 speed, and shocks... so far, i'm not impressed.... but i hear it's a good car... i have the pro kit.

[Saboteur]

In the preassembled kit with body and engine it shows you how to assemble the clutch, shocks, etc. Surprised to hear that the Pro kit doesnt include that in the instructions. BTW where did you get your neo?

[big2wons]

I got it at american hobby shop... the tech guys are cool, the head guy has a chip on his shoulder... Right now, i'm pretty frustrated with the kit cause the directions are nonexistent... i'm guessing on where things go, what screw size to use and all that... i have 70% of the kit done, but i'm starting to regret not coughing up the money and buying a major brand...

[Saboteur]

You mean america's hobby center? Yeah thats also where I got my car from.BTW where do you live? I live in brooklyn,ny...doesnt take long to get into manhatten. Whats funny is that the manual for the preassembled kits show you how to install stuff when they already are, and wont show that in the kit. Hope you can manage building the rest of the kit. What engine do you plan to run it in?

[big2wons]

I"m running a yokomo 12 engine... the engine is the main reason i bought the car (actually the girlfriend bought for me for christmas)... I only paid $60 for the engine and didn't want to get an expensive car...

I live in manhattan... Saboteur do you know the guys at ahc personally??? I'm wondering because you live in brooklyn and there's brooklyn hobbies and east coast hobbies over there and they carry alot of stuff or all of the big name cars, but you seem very loyal to ahc... there's nothing in manhattan below 100 st except for ahc...

[Saboteur]

I know Ray, who is at AHC..he and few other guys who meet at the LHS every saturday race outside the LHS or at a park. One of the other guys I dont really see in the LHS all the time. I never really been to brooklyn hobbies since thats in the flatlands area (never been there), but for east coast Ive been there several times in the past. East coast also has the NEO tnt and my friend said he got some setup tips from a guy there I believe. All the guys that work in east coast I think visit the track or go there sometime. Its like a zoo there on the weekends so forget running around with a sport 2channel radio (btw Im running a futaba 2pc radio for my nitro..works fine though). Its good if you have a car for transportation as you can bring all your car stuff with ease, a portable table and maybe one of them tent thingy's. Im guessing since its colder there may not be as many people out there this time of year but ya never know man. :) BTW there is also mach1 hobbies located in manhatten. I never been there but I have seen their adds in the paper. Also some other LHS around the central park area.

[YR4Dude]

Hi,

I'm thinking about running 1/8. Was looking at the NEO as a possibility.

How does it compare with the latest Serpent, Mugen, Picco and Kyosho F2001?

Any input would be apprecieted.

Thanks

[Saboteur]

Its a really great kit to buy if you're a neo fan like me and on a budget. :D :) Whats also a bonus is that it comes with the centax clutch system. If you have good driving skills and your car is dialed in the to the track, Im sure you can fair well.:cool: I plan to buy the 1/10th neo attack and the 1/8th so I can race in all 3 nitro onroad classes.

[YR4Dude]

Okay, I'm still interested. However I looked at the CRC site and it gave no details about the car and what is included in the sale price. Could anyone list the standard features of the Saber for me?

Also, from what I see, it seems to be very similar to one of the previous Serpent cars. Could anyone specify which Serpent it is most similar to?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

[Saboteur]

Here the stats:

Specifications
Length: 17.5"(445mm)
Width: 10.2"(260mm)
Wheelbase: 12"(306mm)
Weight: 5.35lb(2400g)
Clutch: Centax Adjustable
Requires: Body, .21 Engine, Exhaust system & Radio

Features
-Aircraft-grade 7075 T6 Aluminum chassis plate
-Carbon fiber radio tray
-Adjustable alloy dampers
-Quick-change front and rear wheels
-2speed transmission
-Adjustable front & rear anti-roll bars
-Center Force clutch system
-Complete ball bearings
-Heavy duty disc brake
-125cc fuel tank with internal baffle
-Side Belt tensioner
-Enclosed receiver case
-Completely adjustable for today's demanding racer

Well thats about it. If you want a picture of it, check out www.megatech.com for all the megatech and neo rc cars specs, pictures and upgrades. They also have upgrades for other brands of rc's too.:cool:

[YR4Dude]

Thanks for the help.

I see that both CRC and AHC are selling the kit. The picture on both their websites are the same. In fact, both pictures don't match the description because it shows an alum. radio tray rather than a carbon radio tray.

The CRC site lists the kit for $349

The AHC site lists the kit for $299. Also it lists it as an RX-4 version spec 2000. Am I to assume that this is the latest version and that the one offerred by CRC is outdated?

Lastly, where can I find some pics of the actual car that fits the description? I am interested in having a look before I press the button to make the purchase. Also, do I have to buy Neo wheels and tires or does the Serpent style wheels fit as well?

[Saboteur]

Any 1/8th wheels will fit. BTW I suggest you order your's from either AHC or www.brooklynhobbies.com I think brooklyn hobbies has a sale on the neo there and its actually cheaper I think. Go to their site and search for the specials. I remember seeing the neo's at the last hobby show in white plains a year back or so with the carbon upper deck and one with the aluminum. Try megatech's webpage for more pictures or go to this thread I made and check the 2nd or 3rd page and you will see pictures of the 1/8th Saber.
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=96633

Either way it comes, its one heck of a great buy you can pass up. :cool: Truthfully if I had the cash, instead of buying the 1/10th sedan, I would have either bought the 1/10th attack or the 1/8th Saber...LOL :D

[Saboteur]

BTW planning to get some things for my ride and an offroad truck kit to plant the m16 in. Once I get a job, the stuff will come easier. :cool: Going to try and race at www.queensunitedrc.com

[Saboteur]

Forget racing there, or my local track. Anyway..
http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113903 :( :confused:

[modellor]

Originally posted by rc4me2
with a width of 243 mm, how does this car legally compete in the 235mm class???

The rules state that the maximum width is 243mm or 250mm with the body on. I think they refer to the class as 235mm because this is the minimum wide allowed.

Hope this clears it up a bit.

[modellor]

Originally posted by YR4Dude
Okay, I'm still interested. However I looked at the CRC site and it gave no details about the car and what is included in the sale price. Could anyone list the standard features of the Saber for me?

Also, from what I see, it seems to be very similar to one of the previous Serpent cars. Could anyone specify which Serpent it is most similar to?

Thanks to anyone who can help.

The car is a near copy of the Serpent Vector NT. Most NT parts will fit the car so you could run one for a while yet.

[Saboteur]

Cool, I didnt know that. Thanks for clearing that up about the 1/10th onroad class modeller.:)

[spenzalii]

Hey, I'm thinking about picking up a TNT for a 'beater' car (can't beat the price). Can this car take a SG shaft engine, and is it rotary carb only or slide accessible?

[Saboteur]

With the centax clutch it only works around engines that have a standard crankshaft. However this doesnt mean you wont have a lot of powerful engines to choose from. The most powerful engine you can get for it that has a standard crankshaft is the Sirio. It can be found for the same price as the MT12. Anyway it takes both Rotary and Slide carb engines. I have the vs thats 80% assembled and came with a BMW 328ci coupe body and M16 engine. This car can also be raced and offers lots of performance as well as tuning ability. I have old pictures of my ride on my webpage but I just took some pics today and try to get em developed tomorrow so stay tuned to this thread. BTW, if you have any tech questions about the car, I'll be happy to help since it seems like I'm the only one replying to this thread.:rolleyes:

http://thercfinatic11203.tripod.com

[Saboteur]

BTW, where are you ordering it from? Im sure you must know the specs on this car and its one AWESOME car to race. :cool:

[spenzalii]

Probably AHC. I've been thinking about a good 'beater' car, something inexpensive that looks good, runs faster than it should by most people's standards and is a bit different. I'll probably still get a NTC3 or LD3 (shaft is the way to go), but as a spare/play/alt. competition car, or something one of my boys can run while I have the other car. I'm also looking at the OB4 (dirt cheap at 150 with extras and a case) and the Tornado (only because my LHS has parts for it in stock). I'd probably go with a PS (just for convenience; I don't know if I want to have to explain how to use it to my boys and to keep the beater theme going), so I may go for the Traxxas 2.5 (with the standard threaded crank, once they come out) ot a Colari XS12 (I'll get the Sirio in the other 'pro' car). Bottom line, I wan inexpensive, better performance than people expect. Parts support is a bit of a concern, but I'm used to ordering online.

[Saboteur]

The N4tec is a great ride. It beats a lot of the other RTR nitro sedans out there with a whooping 60mph. Some people that had it says the handling could be better at that speed so I suggest you look into some sway bars, a stiffer set of springs and shock oil. BTW, the Neo TNT vs that comes with the m16 has a pull start and slide carb. I've had good luck with my engine and with the stock gearing on the neo I wouldnt be surprised it it managed to hit 60mph or very close to it. Its an awesome car that your son can use to bash as well as race. IMO is pretty much a pro. The pro kit comes with the pivot ball suspension but needs a body, tuned pipe, engine and radio gear. I believe it does come with engines mounts. Still the kit with body and engine would be a great choice. Just wondering, where do you live? Im in brooklyn,ny and the train to get to manhatten.

[YR4Dude]

Spenz - you should shop around online because I have seen the the Tornado for as low as $200 complete.

[spenzalii]

200 is about what I have seen it for, too. The only reason that was in the running was it IS complete and I can get a part for it if (and when) I hit something. :o Not so sure on the 4tec. I'll take the engine on it, though (which I may do).

I wish I was in BKLYN! I'm down in DC, with 18+ inches of snow right now. I've got no problem getting the radio gear or motor (have a XR3, getting the XS3).

[Saboteur]

Well you wouldnt want to be living in brooklyn nor any of the 5 boroughs IMO. It really sucks here..well atleast the part I live at. They are like "the people are nice,etc", well sometimes thats not always true. BTW, if your looking for a track to race, better of finding a track in Connecticut or another state. Also with the high state of alert we are in there are a lot of things going on here and its kinda hectic just like 9/11. Also we are getting a heap of snow as well so just lay back and bust out the hot cocoa for yourself and the kids.:)

[YR4Dude]

Sorry guys but here in Southern California its practically summer year 'round. In fact just before the rains of last week, it was summer weather with highs almost past 80 degrees. Plenty of good weather to put in some track time. I am surprised that no-one in your area have an indoor track of some kind. In fact, I've heard of an indoor offroad track for nitro cars thats opened somewhere in California.

Anyways, its no wonder that all the good drivers come from SoCal simply because we get year round track time. I guess you'll have to wait till it thaws out in the spring before you can run your nitros. Oh well, had a good run today in my 1/10. Was at the track till almost 8:00pm. Still had good traction until then.;)

[Saboteur]

Brucknerhobbies in the Bronx has an indoor carpet track. I cant get up there..its kinda far away. Im not really into elec sedan racing like I used to be, though may get into it later on. Im concentrating on my nitro sedan and hoping to find a track to race it.

http://www.brucknerhobbies.com/indoor.htm Thats their track. Its pretty cool. I may get a 1/12th scale to race. They are pretty fast with a stock motor and 4cells. Less stuff to buy for em as well. :)

[spenzalii]

Enjoy the snow buddy; it just finished down this way! We have anywhere from 17-25 inches depending on where you are. Needless to say, nobody's goimg ANYWHERE.

There are a few tracks around: a indoor electric track (which is around 40 minutes out), an outdoor buggy track (at least an hour out) and a small converted outdoor track that's really too small for nitro (but they run them anyway). Most of the running this way is in the parking lot, hence the desire for an inexpensive runner (and a pro car just in case they do have organized runs somewhere). I'll probably try to run the carpet on Sundays with my XXX-S after a rebuild and restock of my equipment (better charger and battery)

Which car r u running YR4 (since you have so many...) and what seems to be the hot engine out there (legal and illegal)? Anyone running a LD3?

[Saboteur]

IMO I'd get the NTC3 over the LD3. Its better in lots of ways despite their similiar looks. Your right man, no one is goin anywhere. No buses running,trains delayed,etc.

[YR4Dude]

As for the car I am driving right now, like I said, its the Yokomo GT-4R which I may also be selling soon. I also have a Kyosho V One R which I am fond of but have not have much opportunity to run so much. The V One R is a great, balanced, simple car. Only six screws to remove the radio plate with only the throttle linkage and steering linkage to interfere with. On my Yok, I have to remove the front end and all the braces in the rear before I can take off the radio plate.

The current HOT motor is the Mugen/Novarossi MR-12. It is a short stroke motor that is incredibly fast. Some of the pros out there say it is about as fast as a JP Black motor. Considering that the average price for the MR is about $170 and the average price for the JP is about $220, you can see why it is so popular.

The current HOT motor that is illegal is the Sirio 5 Port Turbo. At an average price of $165, its the cheapest high performance motor around. Another is the STS 5 port at $150 from CRC. I have shopped this motor on the internet and have found some places willing to sell for $130.

Offcourse what is a hot motor without a HOT car to go into. The matching car is the Mugen MTX-3. Most people say it is the 1/10 version of the MRX-3 that won the worlds. It features the same chassis mounted center pivot steering for improved CG in the steering position plus many other improvements in the rear and drivetrain. Most importantly, it comes almost all hopped up out of the box with the exception of the front universals.

As for the LD-3, the RTR is out. The Pro, worth waiting for, is about another month and a half away. Rear suspension will be slightly different than OB4 due clearance mods for 30mm tires. So far I haven't seen anyone run the car except the OFNA guys.

[YR4Dude]

If you take a close look at the features of the LD-3 as opposed to the TC3, you would change your opinion fast.

The only thing the TC3 has in its favor is its name and distribution.

LD-3 - Sealed gear diffs
TC3 - Ball diffs not suitable for gas. (its okay for electric)

LD-3 - Durable plastic hubs with adjustable ballend retainers
TC3 - Hard plastic hubs with non adjustable ballend retainers

Just those features alone are worth getting the LD-3. Better yet also, the LD-3 parts are interchangeable with the TC3.;)

[Saboteur]

True. Those are just a few to mention, and I kinda took that opinion from what other pro's said. When parts become more available it will rival with the NTC3..especially on the track. BTW the Neo TNT comes with f/r ball diffs. Ive been bashing and racing with mine and they work pretty fine.

[spenzalii]

Just made it out to pick up some friends to be stuck inside with. It is not a game out there. Be careful in BKLYN (what part, btw?).

I may just go with the TNT (my buddy will trade me the RS4 pro and Rally RS4 for a new NOB4) and wait on the LD3 before making my decsision. Parts can come by my LHS, who can get them if I have the part number. I would like to build up the car like the super shop NTC3 RCCA ran this month (the aluminum diff covers would be nice). Not to decide on the motor for it (illegal or legal). How much difference is there in the MR12 and the Sirio 5 port? The MTX-3 looks great, but I think I want to go with the shaft drive for the serious car (not to say the TNT isn't serious).

[Saboteur]

Yeah megatech makes some delrin, graphite, and alum parts for both the NTC3, Neo and lots of other cars. Ive seen few models in the store and they are pretty sweet. I agree with the NTC3, you wont have to worry bout belt and pulley setups, tensioners,etc. Also with the shaft drive you can launch hard out of corners though kinda watch the torque steer. I never encountered any debris problems damaging my drivetrain, even though its has slide into grass and a dirt pile a few times. :) From a RCCA editors opinion he said the sirio is the fastest .12 engine out there. Some people say the sirio is a bit low on bottom end but mid and top end are balistic. Still Id get one since bruckner hobbies has them VERY CHEAP. Its unbelieveable. :eek: www.brucknerhobbies.com BTW, I think ball diffs are fine for nitro vehicles, except 1/8ths. The Neo has em in the front and rear..car really runs smooth.

[ice-wolf]

hi! saboteur
you open my mind to get one of this great car ,coz i was planning to get a vector nt but since i read this thead, now my head is on it,but i got a ? is the part are easy to get

thank again:) :D

[KawadaKid]

Also I dont know any car kits that come with a centax clutch system and all for a reasonable price, do you?

Yes. I do. The GS Racing Vision Pro comes with one and is offered at an affordable price.

[Saboteur]

Ah yes I remember that one. Another nice car. I forgot the price.:confused: BTW before the GS and STS were out it was the best deal you could get as no other came with such upgrades for a price like the Neo. I like the GS's Centax as it can work around an SG crank I think.

Icewolf, are you talking about the Saber 1/8th? A guy that replied on the thread head said it can use Serpent parts so no matter where you go you'd have something for it, just incase your LHS doesnt have parts for it. I'll get one when Id go into 1/8th racing. :)

[shoe]

Does the 1/8 saber come with a tuned pipe? it looks like a really good deal.

[Saboteur]

The Neo Saber 1/8th requires a body, tune pipe and manifold, .21 engine and radio gear. Megatech offers a nice .21 pipe that Ive heard is really good. You can find it for about $30-$40 bucks. A really great bang for buck pipe. :)

[Saboteur]

Just wanted to show everyone some more views of the Neo TNT. :)

[Saboteur]

.This is showing the pivot ball suspension on the pro kit. The standard kit with m16 engine and bmw body or kit with body less engine doesnt come with the Pivot ball, but all the other upgrades.

[Saboteur]

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[Saboteur]

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[Saboteur]

The pivot ball seems rather small. Id prob invest in larger steel pair.

[Saboteur]

In this picture, I have my chassis brace setup the same way. When you extend one end slightly past the whole you put the screw in and managed to screw it down, it will stiffen out the chassis pretty well. It got rid of a lot of flexing that I had when my stock S3003 kept doing when I hit the throttle. Ill work on the linkage setup to try to prevent this as it actually tugged my m16 a bit even though the engine mounts were all tightened down and loctited. :eek:

[Saboteur]

Thats about it. I plan to get the Saber myself one day. I cant pass up an oppertunity like that, so the other things I wanted to get which I dont really need can stay on hold. The money is going towards a Saber :) . BTW I recall seeing it in my LHS for $230 instead of the $279.99 it's listed for in the ad. If thats the case, for sure I can get the dough in time for one. :cool:

[ice-wolf]

Originally posted by Saboteur
Thats about it. I plan to get the Saber myself one day. I cant pass up an oppertunity like that, so the other things I wanted to get which I dont really need can stay on hold. The money is going towards a Saber :) . BTW I recall seeing it in my LHS for $230 instead of the $279.99 it's listed for in the ad. If thats the case, for sure I dough in timecan get the for one. :cool:


what"z up Saboteur

yes it 1/8 saber it really cool,so where is your LHS do they have a number or website does it really cost only $230 wowwww
give the number pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

thank again:D :eek: :cool: :)

[spenzalii]

The chasis brace thing is a bit confusing there; care to elaborate? Also, the Pro version (135, rolling chasis) has the pivot ball suspension, whereas the other two have, what, c-hub setup? Interesting. For the price, you can't beat it; I may just pick it up after all and get the OB4 from my buddy. Now to find a good motor...

[Saboteur]

Its www.ahc1931.com

For the chassis brace, the end that attached to the roll bar, extend it to the high as shown in the picture..you will need a hex screw to do this. For the other end that you have to use a screw to place in the rear, twist the black ball cup about 4 or 5 turns so that it extends a little further away from the hole. Then insert the screw..it will be slanted slighty..but still go in. It will stiffen out the chassis quite a bit and reduce the flexing. Another way to get rid of the flexing is to buy a stiffer chassis. At AHC they have two pages, one for car parts, and one for car upgrades. Go to the Aluminum hopups page and they have all sorts of things for the Neo as well as other cars. I plan to get the pivot ball suspension and see if I can get a thicker chassis. I heard there is a centre fuel tank upgrade available and would like to get that as well. Not entirely sure if Megatech has this but if so, I may just get it.

[ice-wolf]

Originally posted by Saboteur
Thats about it. I plan to get the Saber myself one day. I cant pass up an oppertunity like that, so the other things I wanted to get which I dont really need can stay on hold. The money is going towards a Saber :) . BTW I recall seeing it in my LHS for $230 instead of the $279.99 it's listed for in the ad. If thats the case, for sure I dough in timecan get the for one. :cool:


what"z up Saboteur

yes it 1/8 saber it really cool,so where is your LHS do they have a number or website does it really cost only $230 wowwww
give the number pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

thank again:D :eek: :cool: :)

[Saboteur]

That should be the price in the store. Here is the link to the store info. Give em a call or drop by.:)

http://www.ahc1931.com/StoreInfo.html

BTW, here are some stuff Id get for my Neo TNT before I buy the 1/8th. Come to think of it it doesnt make sense to get the Saber now, because I wont have enough cash for a while to get the stuff for the TNT. Also for about $230 I can get quite a lot of hop ups for the Neo.

Megatech Suspension arm set-pivot ball (1F, 1R) = $7.25 (need two of these)
Megatech Steering blocks-pivot ball (pr) ..............=$7.25
Megatech Rear Hubs-pivot ball (pr).................... ..= $7.25
Megatech Pivot balls (4)........................................= $7.95 (need two of these.
Megatech Aluminum main xtra thick chassis..........=$51.99

Well thats about it. For a good $110+ or so it will cost including tax .:)

[ice-wolf]

hi! Saboteur,

I went to the www.ahc1931.com?Store.html (http://www.ahc1931.com/Store.html) the prize is $299 it"s not $230 is this the webside you talking about ,:confused: :(


ps! more info pls...........:(


thank's for the help.:)

[Saboteur]

They must have changed the price. It was lower when they first made the sales on the Neo, but I guess since more people decided to look into em they raised the price. Still it's pretty cheap.

[rico37]

Hi! Saboteur

I will send ya chassi shots after a weekend of racing.
I am sure megatech made the center tank deck. It was
about 2 years ago when l purchased it l am also running
gear diffs front+rear with Associated black gear grease.
And l did get ya Email from here.:D

[Saboteur]

Cool. Do you remember the price for it? That would help me out a lot so I can see how much will it all cost. I wouldnt trade my ride for any other and futher more like to sponser Neo as well. Great cars, reasonable price, etc.:) I guess ya got rid of the ball diffs for the gear diffs eh'? I may keep mine for now until I race. They seem to work very well.

[rico37]

Saboteur.

The gear diffs provided a more planted feel on the track
and maintain high corner speed.
But the ball diffs are fine. When l got mrgatech stuff, top
deck,bulkheads,pivot balls,hub carriers, l got them all at
once not sure on the prices . A long time ago .:(

[Saboteur]

Its ok. I give my LHS a call to see if they have it or not.

[Terry]

Keep your eyes on ebay, I just picked up a brand new in box 1/8 saber for $178 . You need engine,pipe,manifold,body. Mine didn't come with tires but I will end up getting different ones anyway. Unbelievable price for a car that I'm just going to have fun with! :D

[Saboteur]

Wow! Thats like nearly half the amount of the original price for the Saber. LOL :) Trust me, with a 1/8th you'd have fun blasting around a big parking lot, though it wont be fun if you crash it. :eek:

[rico37]

Thinking of putting a T21 stock gas"a together do ya know can
ya get a single gear and standard suspension arms. I"ve only
got pivot ball stuff. Also when l got the chassis from megatech
the pulleys are on the opposite side and it"s got an aluminum
brace that runs between the rear bulkhead and the upper deck.
All the aluminum stuff weights the car down stops the car from
drifting out of the turns the NEO T21 is Tops....:D

[Saboteur]

Wow. Sounds like all these upgrades changes the car from more than just the upper deck. Will the belts run along side the exhaust pipe like other tourers, or on the original side? Also its neat you got that alum brace..Im using the one thats show in the pics on the other page. Yeah with the alum it doesnt weight down the car by that much, but its good to have a little weight. Keeps the car nice and planted in the turns.

[rico37]

Hi Saboteur

Have a look at ya Email you should have some chassi shots.

[Saboteur]

Yeah I check my email like 2-3 times when I get home from school..LOL Wouldnt miss a thing. Great shots!!. I though the center fuel tank was alum but Im glad to see its carbon. Looks great. :eek: :) :cool:

[hilltopper]

just bought a neo attack,need to know some info on it..i know a little about the car,but would like to know more..hey sabotuer what up...

[Saboteur]

Hey hilltopper, long time man. Here are the specs:

Neo Attack 1/10th Onroad

Specifications

Length: 15.95" (405mm)
Width: 9.57" (243mm)
Wheelbase: 10.83" (275mm)
Weight: 4.8lb (2150g)
Clutch: Centax Adjustable
Requires: Body, .15 big block engine, exhaust system and radio

Features

-Aircraft-grade 7075 T6 Aluminum chassis plate
-Carbon Fiber radio tray
-Adjustable allow dampers
-Quick change front and rear wheels
-2speed transmission
-Adjustable front and rear anti-roll bars
-Center force clutch system
-Complete ball bearings
-Heavy duty disc brake
-75cc fuel tank
-side belt tensioner
-enclosed receiver case
-completely adjustable for today's demanding racer :) :cool:

Its one race ready ride and will just need few items to get it up and running. Frank Calandra races the Attack and Saber. www.teamcrc.com BTW, are you still racing at queens united?

[hilltopper]

yeah,i still race with queens united...gonna have this ready for the summer..cant wait to get it.what else do i need to know about it?? tell me everything....

[hilltopper]

is there any websites that i can get info from on the attack..besides crc and megatech site???

[Saboteur]

Well there isnt much more to know. I believe it can use serpent parts, just like the Saber, it also comes with the tires show in the picture, comes in 2wd and 4wd (Id opt for the 4wd version) and thats about it. Im moving soon and Id be much further away. However I'd like to go to RC Madness...as they have tons of classes to race, only 1.5hrs away ( gettin my liscense and real car soon), and I may be able to meet the guys from RCCA there. :)

[Rog]

Does anyone know if the STS Mad Dog 1:10 scale on-road car is basically the same as the Attack, and Impact?

[Saboteur]

I believe so. Either way you look at it most cars today are similiar to others and you can swap parts. Its a good thing incase your lhs doesnt have parts for the car you bought.:)

[hilltopper]

how do i convert a 2wd neo attack,to4wd...

[Saboteur]

Im not sure. For sure you will need the front oneway diff, front and mid belt and pulley gears. Ive never seen the 2wd kit though. Still go for the 4wd kit. It's much easier to drive and handles better in the turns.

[YR4Dude]

The STS Maddog is the same as the Serpent Impact. Only exception is that the radio tray may be configured differently. (Receiver and battery in different positions) As for the attack, I would guess that it is the same since the Saber is similar to the Serpent Vector.

I've driven a Serpent Impact 2WD, it drives fine. When you swithc to 4WD, you'll also need to swap out the rear diff for a solid axle. Thats the set-up all 4WD run for these style cars. Also since these cars are typically overdriven in the front, you'll also get more tire wear in the rear than you would in the 2WD.

Set-up and driven well a 2WD can keep-up with the 4WD. However it is easier to drive with 4WD because you can stay on the throttle more.

[shoe]

is this a good engine for the saber? is it fast? is it reliable and easy to tune?

http://www.ahc1931.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PROD&Store_Code=ahc1931&Product_Code=MTCPT-08

i dont have a saber im just wondering.

[Saboteur]

That engine is very powerful and a steal considering how cheap it is. I never tried megatech's SH line of engines; only the M16. There was a person who use a SH engine in his truck at the Silver State NATS a while back and came in 3rd. If you want, go for it otherwise save up for a Novamega .21, JP or RB C5.

[shoe]

Originally posted by Saboteur
That engine is very powerful and a steal considering how cheap it is. I never tried megatech's SH line of engines; only the M16. There was a person who use a SH engine in his truck at the Silver State NATS a while back and came in 3rd. If you want, go for it otherwise save up for a Novamega .21, JP or RB C5.

alrite thanks. i just gotta save up for it now...

[puribong]

I am just wondering if NEO TNT is same car as T-21 Nitro.
Also does the engine with standard crankshaft thread will work with NEO TNT or do I need such as SG type?

Do you guys know if America Hobby Center carries all the parts for NEO TNT?

[Saboteur]

Yes, yes, and yes.:) BTW the centax clutch that comes with the NEO TNT kits is said to only work with an std crankshaft. Still you have quite a bit of engines to choose from.

[hilltopper]

i need some help with my neo attack..who could i speak too or go see that could help me?just need some advice....

[Saboteur]

You can post your questions here or go to AHC's LHS in manhatten as they have all parts and info about the NEO cars. I may go there before I move to get some more fuel for my TNT...or after I move.

[puribong]

I stopped by AHC 2days ago and took a look at NEO TNT.
It looks pretty good. Parts looks to be high quality.
I asked the guy there if they carry all the parts for TNT, and the guy said they have most of parts(important ones).
I still deciding whether to buy it or try something other.
I just wish TNT was as popular as RS4s.......

[Saboteur]

The TNT may not be as popular as the RS4's but its a better buy IMO. I'm going to the AHC today since I stripped the 2nd spur gear for a 2nd time...lol. For sure its them bumps in the parking lot I probably hit. Going to get a new one, thread lock, pivot ball suspension and more fuel. BTW, I FINALLY MOVE! Got here in portchester,ny on Sat, 22nd. Wheeeeeeeeeeee!:)

[puribong]

welcome to ny =)

I just wished TNT was as popular as RS4, that way I can find parts anywhere I go. I am only limited to AHC for parts.
I like tnt but parts availability is holding me right now.
I am also looking at Ofna LD3.

[Saboteur]

Welcome to NY? I've been in Brooklyn, NY for most of my life man...LOL. To bad I didnt get to go to the LHS today but we will go back into the city 2morrow for some stuff. I dont mind having to go to there to get parts for my ride since there arent many lhs nearby. One is in Harrison, NY (2 stops on the metro north) but I'm not sure of the exact location. Still Id get the NEO over an RS4 any day. I'll post new pics once I get the chance.

[big2wons]

just wished TNT was as popular as RS4, that way I can find parts anywhere I go. I am only limited to AHC for parts.

Puribong, you're right... parts availability is a huge problem... I got my kit during christmas, still waiting for a 20 T pinion... it sucks that you can't get it anywhere else... i'm even thinking about just buying another kit and us it as parts.... the car tho is better than an hpi... hpi's are everywhere, but their cars are a ripp off in terms of value...

[Saboteur]

They are a little similiar to the HPI cars..to bad they arent as popular. I went to my lhs today and got a new gear (delrin) for my NEO TNT no prob. Better to go there than order stuff as I heard they take a while.:)

[puribong]

hehe my bad... I thought you just moved into ny from other state....... My lhs are mainly Bruckner and AHC and there is little hobby shop like 5mins from my house but they don't carry much of stuff and price is so high..
I decided to try tnt later. For now I think I am going with LD3.

[Saboteur]

I'm planning to sell my Neo tnt with futaba 2pc radio gear. This small lhs nearby doesnt car parts for it and so he'd only take it for $150 w/ radio. I know I could get it for more. If you are interested I could sell it to ya for $270. Im including the car already assembled, the front steering servo is a new one since i stripped the gear in the old one and the ahc in manhatten didnt have that part for it. Also it has a delrin 1st gear, an $18 value, xtra megatech plug, xtra parts and decals, and hex wrenches. Basically everything is in a great condition as I havent gotten a chance to drive it as much. :( When I go to my sister's house sometime soon, I'll try to get update pics of it.

[Saboteur]

Thought I'd liven this thread again. The TNT is still here..not being sold..but rather going to be driven since I got the problems fixed. Here is what I'd like to get next.. after a .12 engine, new tuned pipe and parts for the TNT ofcourse :p

[Saboteur]

Finally managed to solve my stripping problem. All it took was some krazy glue and washers on the engine mounts. :) Here's new shots of my ride...thought I'd wake this thread up a bit.

[Saboteur]

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[Saboteur]

Probably look into a FR12 SE for my ride after I order few other things.

[aznfella]

Hey sabotuer where are you located? I really would like to get a new motor for my TNT and a few upgrades for it. I was thinking about the pivot ball suspension arms and sway bars if possible. I'm thinking of getting a new motor but not sure what size i should opt for maybe you can help me out on this one?

[Saboteur]

Wow man sry for the late reply but I never got a response to this. I live in Port Chester, NY. For Swaybars I don't think those are optional for it ( could be wrong) and for pivot ball suspension would costs about $30. Might as well get another TNT pro kit otherwise if you still don't have access to a new ride just get a new nitro onroad. As for a new engine, get a new clutch nut. One that works with SG shafts will be required so you can broaden your engine selection. The MT12 flies in that car since it's really light as well as the RB V12. For the price the OS .12TZ is great.

[aznfella]

Hey does anyone know what 1st and 2nd gear can be used in the NEO TNT? I called Megatech and the replacement pars are discontinued.

[audik]

i'm also looking for replacement parts for a tnt car