HPI 1/8 Proceed 4WD Nitro

[Peterbilt]

Talk about it here !

[ponky_wonky]

"I HEAR" that if set up right, it can be real competitive, like as in, hang with the serpents, mugens and kyoshos

[cynical_zen]

I am thinking of buying a used one...at good price since MRX3's are a bit pricey.
Good idea? Bad idea?...let me know.

[rs4-3]

Originally posted by cynical_zen
I am thinking of buying a used one...at good price since MRX3's are a bit pricey.
Good idea? Bad idea?...let me know.

pick it up if the price is right
it is a good car if set up right go for it.

[cynical_zen]

Thanks RS4-3...appreciate the help...think I will...

[Toyotatogo]

Is the proceed discontinued? :confused:

[Rookie Solara]

HPI DC the car a while ago, but still making replacement parts for it...

Honestly, never buy a car that is DC....you never know when HPI will pull the plug off the proceed.

A used Serpent/Mugen is not that bad, talk about vector NT used can be as low as $400 with a nice 21 engine on ebay.

Of course, don't even thing about a used 950 or MRX-3 are near that cheap....

[Downforce]

Originally posted by Rookie Solara
HPI DC the car a while ago, but still making replacement parts for it...

Honestly, never buy a car that is DC....you never know when HPI will pull the plug off the proceed.

A used Serpent/Mugen is not that bad, talk about vector NT used can be as low as $400 with a nice 21 engine on ebay.

Of course, don't even thing about a used 950 or MRX-3 are near that cheap....

HPI's site says nothing about being discontinued. Scroll down on the kit page and they list all their discontinued kits.

"Discontinued Kits

Nitro RS4 2 | RTR Nitro RS4 | Nitro | Nitro Racer | Nitro Mini | Sport | Pro | Pro 2 | Pro 3 | Mini | Mini Pro | Super F1 | Road Star 10/Street Machine"

[Toyotatogo]

Nitro RS4 2 :eek:

But how can it be DC i still get parts for it?????? :confused:

[Sharkey]

discontinued means the car isnt sold anymore, not that they dont still make parts for it. hpi would be stupid to stop making parts for it, they have so many kits that use the same basic design.

[hpirs43ss]

yeah, I was thinkin about buying one of those used...How much d'you think they are used, not on ebay:confused:

[Movin Out]

The proceed is not a discontinued car, still very much in production as well as the parts. I have 3 of them currently, I like the car so much. The most recent one I purchased right through HPI not but 4 weeks ago.

One thing I do hate is HPI's none existant help with the car. They know nothing. You have to know someone that has one to get anywhere with the set up.

[Raydee]

Can you guys tell me what type of clutch system the pro ceed uses? Is it like the Centrax that the Mugen uses??

[packfan88]

the proceed isnt discontinued.

it uses a centax type clutch.

my friend has one and when he brings it on the track all the little 1/10th scale cars run in fear from being squashed by that beast.

[jgrs4]

I just saw a add in R.C. Car Action for the Proceed, I am thinking of getting one of these.

[jgrs4]

I just saw a add in R.C. Car Action for the Proceed, I am thinking of getting one of these.

[jgrs4]

I just saw a add in this months R.C. Car Action mag. for the Proceed, I am thinking of getting one of these.

[jgrs4]

Sorry for the tripple post.

[mwcet8k]

Does anyone know if Hara ever races this thing? It looks like a really nice ride. I'm surprised we don't hear more about it. HPI obviously built it to be top of the line.

[ProF1TOOL]

It was top of the line a while back when the Vector and MRX-2 ame out. The car is outdated now and not very competitive at the top. It's best to get a Mugen if you live in the United States. They have a strong following, excellent service and good parts support.

[Cosmo]

It was never really top of the line. I ran one for a half a season. It ran okay, but didn't handle as precisely as my Veteq or Vector, or the Mugens I drove.

[VWNTC3]

It was never really top of the line. I ran one for a half a season. It ran okay, but didn't handle as precisely as my Veteq or Vector, or the Mugens I drove.

Stop Play and Get a KYOSHO..............EVOLVA....It Kick all ass!!!!!!!!!!!!Period!!!!

[Mika]

I just saw a add in R.C. Car Action for the Proceed, I am thinking of getting one of these.

I got one recently, haven't got the chance to ride it yet. Feels like a nice car, and not too expensive, here's few pics:

http://www.snrt.net/proceed1.jpg
http://www.snrt.net/proceed2.jpg
http://www.snrt.net/proceed3.jpg

Too bad HPI does not manufacture this anymore .. well, spares are cheaper now :p This baby has Venom onboard speed meter, HoBao offroad air filter (nice ha?) and Team Trinity Samurai 521 budget engine.. still waiting the pipe and body.

[KENCHOCO2]

Nice Car....choco

[Mika]

here's the car with Lola body on
http://www.snrt.net/lola_front.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/lola_top.jpg

Actually my intention was not to paint with a Pactra "clear paint", but luckily the result is not as bad as I first though (after recognizing the type of the paint). Furnished with some nice stickers the result is actually quite nice. At least it's different ;)

[KENCHOCO2]

very nice car...i like the body...

[rwviper2]

I have a traxxas nitro 4-tec, and i bought an ofna hyper .21 8 port to put in it. I have no clue however as to what transmission to get for it. I want to get either a 2spd or a 3spd for it. I also want the ratio fit for high speed. does anyone know if hpi makes anything that will work with the hyper .21 8 port??

[Mika]

Proceed centax clutch fits to the engine; I have an offroad Team Infinity Samurai 521 on my Proceed

[rwviper2]

Proceed centax clutch fits to the engine; I have an offroad Team Infinity Samurai 521 on my Proceed
thanks, do u have a link as to where i could buy one?

[Mika]

Tower hobbies www.towerhobbies.com for example. don't know if it fits to the rest of the car, though, and it's gearing.

[lunytune]

anyone have any spur gears for the proceed? I am having problems finding any

[bigpoppabear]

what is the best engine to put in this car. price no object.

[performula]

It was discontinued? What a shame, but it was out for a while and that is why I love HPI. They stick to their kits a little longer than most.

[Savage55]

does anyone know if you can put a 3 speed on this thing, i know it would make it really fast, but it would be cool!

[Mika]

this has centax clutch and a 2-shoe 2-speed, I don't think any 3-speed on the market will fit. Plus it won't make it any faster, it's the tallest gear what counts

[Mika]

Run my Proceed for 1st time (ever) last week..awesome. Had REX sport buggy engine as left over from my 777.. it was good enough... Some pics below.. Nice car, handles well, in fact surprisingly well!! And easy to tune, the clutch, 2-speed etc. My friends K Evolva aside.

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/driven.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/cars1.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/cars2.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/after.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/view.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/tyre.jpg

[Gojira]

if you rpay it with silver on the back that "clear paint" will come to life,it makes a huge diff P.S.why does everybody keep saying the proceed is discon hpi doesnt say so

[Mika]

Yes, I know, but the first layer did not come out so well so I decided not to .. thanks for the tip. Yes, I don't think it is discontinued.. fine car anyway and relevantly easy for novices, too, to build and drive (comparing to top racers like Kyosho EVO)

[mwahaha91]

I just started making my Proceed with my Novarossi Rrace engine on it. For some reason, the rear bulkheads were not included, so i have no back part ahahah . Anyone know where i can get rear bulkheads?

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/4553/jamesproceed0015fq.jpg

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/1710/jamesproceed0028dq.jpg

[Mika]

www.towerhobbies.com is one good option

[mwahaha91]

Where on towerhobbies? I could only find the front bulkheads.

[Mika]

You're right ..me neither.. in US might try the HPI shop

[Mika]

For the coming season I selected the RB S7C II mid-budget engine with inline pipe combo and a BLITZ Lola.. Let's see.

[racer34v]

how has the proceed treated you as far as mechanical reliability?

[Mika]

Ran only a couple of times last summer, but I think very well! It's an easy to car to build and maintain and works well out of the box. Centax clutch was surprisingly easy to setup and also the 2-speed worked flawlessly, pivot balls provide easy adjustement. Construction is a bit old fashion compared to newer designs but it makes the car easy to work with, straightforward not too tricky. Like Kyosho buggy, it's not the most advanced design but very competitive and easy to work with. I can recommend for mid-level drivers easily. For hardest competition this is likely not enough. Cool looking, too.

[ic0nn]

does anyone know where i can still get some mounted/trued tires for the proceed? i know in asia HPI carries red star and in the US delta provides parts but i dont see anymore tires listed on delta's website anymore.

[Saboteur]

Hey Mika, what track is that and where is it located?

[Mika]

Hi Saboteur, this is track is in the Nordics, Finland

[ic0nn]

does anyone know where i can get novarossi/top engines and pipes from?

[srtbass]

engines (http://www.novarossi.com)

[Mika]

Got the RB engine, see installed below


http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/s72close.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/s72.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/s72box.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/s72side.jpg

[Saboteur]

OMG it looks soo purtty! Mika DO tell me how it runs and if it that powerful. I had the option of getting the older version, but my lhs steered me towards this older Novarossi Top. It's faster, but been a little finicky for me. I'll keep working on it though.

[Mika]

Thanks Saboteur, this is a nice package indeed, at least for the price ($280 whole set)
Sure I will, but the thing is it takes some time before I can drive this car - sorry - as we have snow here for few months still.. :(
Are you driving Proceed yourself?

ps.As you may have noticed the lime green box is the Venom speedmeter; expecting the numbers grow with this one ;-)

[ic0nn]

that looks very nice. cant wait to get my own car now (backordered).

mika, did you mount/true your own tires or did you buy them from premounted/trued from somewhere?

saboteur: which novarossi/top engine are you referring to? the one with the aluminum sleeve?

[Saboteur]

Mika- A friend of mine is running one. I wanted to get that package but the LHS steered me towards the TOP since it was faster. From what I heard my Top is also faster than the OS VZ-R.

Ic0nn- I have the Nova/Top PT21 SP1. It has ABC construction, not AAC. Hardly any Novarossi's at the time were made with AAC construction. Infact, I don't recall any especially when this one was made.

[Mika]

Cool, guys! I would have wanted the new Sirio PR PRO enginen but it is way too pricey for this car u know.

ic0nn, my friend trued these tires after I glued them with CA. He don't have a truer but did that somehow manually. Outcome was very nice though.

Heard you could use pre-glued and possibly trued Mugen or Kyosho wheels/tires. Those seem to fit HPI.

[ic0nn]

Mika: thanx for the info. he may not have a truer but he definitely mounted it onto something rotary (dremel or cordless drill perhaps?) to get the tire rounded like that.

the old kyosho fantom wheels do fit the HPI from rumors I heard. other makes like serpent and mugen fit onto the axle but the offset is all wrong. kyosho now uses the same offsets as the mugen cars.

Saboteur: traditionally nova-based engines rev higher and have more power overall than O.S. while O.S. engines tend to have a broad powerband characteristic. Novarossi did make a few AAC from what I recall. If you look at Brucknerhobbies website they still have a TOP novarossi that has an AAC sleeve.

i'm still shopping around for an engine. after seeing Mika's car I'll probably end up with a RB C5 with matching pipe.

[Saboteur]

Ic0nn-Yeah I know Nova's are faster. The OS isnt so bad, but overall on a larger track and the way drivers are so fast surely it won't be enough.

[ic0nn]

Saboteur:

For the price a sport OS 21 isnt bad. The VZ-R is like 299.99 at towerhobbies, which is still less than a sport Novarossi/RB/etc. engine. Plus OS isnt that finicky in break-in and tuning.

Or just get the RB package like Mika did.

[Saboteur]

I got the Nova at a discounted price so it came to $250. It's running a lot better now since though and has quite a ton of power for a sport engine. My friend wants to trade me his OS for my Nova. NOT A CHANCE! :D Mainly because he didn't break it in properly and ran it kinda lean on an early run.

[ic0nn]

wow, thats a great deal for a new nova .21, even if it is an older version. the only "sport" nova based engines are the RX221's and even those are like 350 bucks or so. trying to decide if i want a full blown race engine or just a sport engine for my proceed. i wont be racing it, but i would still like something nice.

[Saboteur]

Those racing .21s are sure pricey. A $400 .21 will have SOO much power, you won't even use all of it. Something $250-$370 is pretty good to beat around with and go on/off traffic. That S7C that Mika has is really great if you want.

[ic0nn]

i think i'm gonna go with a RX221 for a sport engine or a RB C5 if i want something more serious.

been blowing too much cash lately on r/c stuff, gotta slow down a bit and wait for my credit card and wallet to recuporate :D.

oh yeah, anything special i should be aware of when i'm building my car. i'm very familiar with HPI cars and i've built my share of race vehicles, but this is my first attempt at 1/8th scale.

[Mika]

Glad to hear S7CII should be enough. I had RB C5 on my buggy last season and oh boy it was a flyer. Comin season Im planning to do more Sirio on my bug for a change, let's see.

Proceed is pretty straightforward to build, no surprises I think. It works well out of the box, damn well in fact.

Yes it is common to spend more than enough.. I have three 1/8 cars and that should be enough for a while ;-) (777, XB8R and Proceed)

[Saboteur]

i think i'm gonna go with a RX221 for a sport engine or a RB C5 if i want something more serious.

been blowing too much cash lately on r/c stuff, gotta slow down a bit and wait for my credit card and wallet to recuporate :D.

oh yeah, anything special i should be aware of when i'm building my car. i'm very familiar with HPI cars and i've built my share of race vehicles, but this is my first attempt at 1/8th scale.

The C5 for a beginner in 8th is overkill. The one for $400-$500 is insanely fast for an old motor and most racers I run with don't even use all it's power. Stay with the other engine you have as it will be easy to run and get use too. With 8th onroad setup is a real importance. Off suspension settings will result in a car sliding all around, 360s, etc. Remember they have solid rear diffs, not gear diffs.

[Mika]

Yes, I agree on this. Get a good "sport level" engine first, then upgrade as your skills grow.

[Mika]

BTW, Im so glad HPI hasn't discontinued this like they have to Super Nitro lately. I wish they keep this one couple more years at least and perhaps upgrade a bit.

[Truenofan]

i got a proceed, and im having a problem with my sirio 21 pro racing. it idles ok sometimes or kills for no reason even though the carb hasnt been ajusted. when i get it running its rather rough. and when i get past all that when i rev the engine it stays revving for a second and then goes down. or when i really floor it, it stays revving high till i kill it. anyone else have this engine and this problem?(the engine still needs to be broken in as well, im just tryin to get it to work right.) one more question, the e-clips that hold the rear body supports to the suspension, what size are those. hpi told me they were 2mm and 3mm. i just wanna be sure. the guy who assembled mine(i didnt have the c-ring pliers) said i didnt have enough of them and told me to buy some, i think he kept em for himself.

[ic0nn]

truenofan:

sounds like either your midrange or most likely your low-end needle is set too lean. also know that any engine will require tuning since they are very sensitive to weather change. this is especially so with race engines that have sensitive carbs.

mika & saboteur:

yeah, one of my friends gave me similar advice when he was trying to convince me to get into 1/8th scale. although i'm not gonna go with the SC7II. i dont like the large heatsink head on that one. the RX221 looks more road worthy. i'm probably gonna make a trip to brucknerhobbies to shop for an engine when my car comes in the mail. hope i dont end up bringing a RX321 home :D.

oh yeah, does anyone know anywhere that sells the HPI on-road exhaust. i cant seem to find it anywhere, not even on Buy HPI (listed, but doesnt let me add to cart).

[Truenofan]

quick question, on a scale of 1 to 10, is the engine i have pretty good, i didnt get it cuz it was expensive, i got it cuz more or less the car requires it. another problem popped up(fixed the engine carb one). my second gear doesnt seem to spin properly. for some reason it seems to spin at the same speed as my first gear, i revved the engine and it doesnt shift.

[ic0nn]

even though Sirio has won ifmar's TC and 1/8th scale championships, i'm still a big fan of novarossi engines for the time being. its a good engine but i dont care what magazine writeup says, i dislike composite carbs. i may switch from novarossi soon because i dont like what i'm hearing of the wear life of their new microcast pistons. they should keep them cnc machined from billet.

as far as your second gear goes, the transition between first and second is very subtle. you should hear a slight hesitation from the engine revs then the climb in revs again. its very subtle especially with a shoe type two speed.

[Mika]

ic0nn, the size of the head of the S7II is only 50mm and looks more like .15 size engine than a .21 but I agree it is rather ugly :) I was surprised how small it really is when I got it

Sirio engines are sensitive for correct a plug (the timing of it)

Truenofan, the gear change is indeed very subtle and hard to recognise (other than running when you can see the change). Try loosing the settings and would expect seeing it in some point if your engine is tuned properly (not too rich)

[Truenofan]

ok, it just didnt seem right to me that when im spinning it, it all spun the same speed. ill try that tonight and see what happens. thx. where can i get a safety shutoff. i dont wanna go flyin off somewhere if i go outta range.

[Mika]

Truenofan, yes, the gears spin at the same speed when it is on first gear. The second takes over (locks with the shoes in it) when wheels spin enough.

[ic0nn]

mika: i like the look of the C5 head the most. the old RX21R1WC was cool with its kangaroo logo on top of it, but i cant find one NIB anywhere.

towers just updated their ETA again from late january to mid january :). hope to get my kit in soon. still need some servos, RX pack, and some upgrade parts to customize my car.

trueno fan: i would recommend ofna and futaba failsafes.

[Truenofan]

where can i get one. tower doesnt seem to have any. only some ems brand. also, it seems just from sitting that i have stripped my servo horn, where can i find a replacement. yes, i just took it off and its definitly stripped, th states that the servo saver/front servo horn, is discontinued, know where i can get one? oh and ic0n, why not try lookin on ebay, i got mine there complete package and it only costed me roughly 300 for it.

here's one right here, nobody has bid on it, has an engine(probly not super great) and its assembled.
http://cgi.ebay.com/HPI-PROCEED-1-8th-Onroad-with-Novarossi-Near-New_W0QQitemZ6027607565QQcategoryZ44015QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Mika]

Checked Kyosho Evolva tires; they fit at rear but are slightly too wide (in offset), in front I could not fit them, seems the Proceed front axle pins are too long but not sure (anyway could not fit them). May depend on the rim manufacturer.

Need to stick with Proceed tires, rims at least. Here in europe it's a slight problem since the availability isn't that great

[ic0nn]

no, the evolva tire/wheel combos won't fit the proceed. kyosho changed over their axles to be compatible with mugen cars' tires/wheels starting with their 2003 evolva.

as far as i know, the old kyosho fantom tire/wheels should fit the proceed axles. not entirely sure as this is from word of mouth. and the kyosho fantom rims and tires may be harder to find than our proceed stuff.

[Saboteur]

Worst case if it's just the pins, get longer pins to fit.

[Truenofan]

can i get some assistance on this problem, towerhobbies seems to have it listed as discontinued, where can i get it again.

[Mika]

Worst case if it's just the pins, get longer pins to fit.

you would have to cut the proceed pins in this case to fit the evolva rims in front

[Mika]

Truenofan, HPI has their own shop Buy HPI, check www.hpiracing.com and try there

Actually, I spotted longer and shorter pins for wheels maybe rims could fit with shorter pins (not checking the manual though)

[ic0nn]

just checked my order status. my car was shipped 1/10 and should be here within a week or so :D. all i gotta do is save up for an engine. oh yeah, i also got some redstar mounted/trued tires. looks pretty good but i think i'm gonna get some multiring ones as well.

its gonna be a fun summer for me :cool:.

[Truenofan]

you got yours from th?

[ic0nn]

yeah, getting a new one from towers. gonna modify it with a few parts here and there, but it will remain relatively stock.

[Mika]

congrats ic0nn :-) I found the car pretty good at stock. I have spare red springs and the yellow clutch shoe, which I haven't tried out yet, that's all. Oh yeah and now I have the new BLITZ lola body which I should paint and trim. Gearing is something I might try to change but first I need to find out how the car suits at our local track with the new engine and stock gearing. One can do a lot just by changing the clutch and 2-speed timing, no need for new gears except if you want more top speed or something... I see people have also changed to Delta pillow balls etc. but I see no need yet.

Check my renewated website http://www.freewebs.com/4chassis/ and select 1/8 circuit to see some Proceed and onroad pics..

[Saboteur]

Hey now the Proceed may be older, but a guy came in 3rd place with it in one of the olde NATs event. :)

[ic0nn]

yeah, i'm about to place an order through delta as soon as they get back to me.

gonna upgrade the clutch with the red disc one, new brake disc, fixed wheel mount, and machined flyweights. i also have some titanium bits to put on the car, but i think that will do it. top it off with the toyota GT-One body and its all set.

i think the proceed is one of HPI's best works ever. its amazing to me how even though HPI has the best compromise between durability and speed that their serious offerings like the proceed and R40 are not as popular as they should be.

[Mika]

Hey now the Proceed may be older, but a guy came in 3rd place with it in one of the olde NATs event. :)

Just recently? That's great!!

Ic0nn, be sure to post some pics here if u can once the car is ready! :D

[Truenofan]

just be sure to use the gt-one body, its like the best looking one.(best looking car too imo) :D

[ic0nn]

i'll be sure to post some pics when i finish my kit. i have to finish up my super nitro and super nitro rally first though. would you guys want pictures of my box when it comes in :p ?

i have my gt-one body and paints all set for the car. i love lola's but i think the proceed looks best with the closed top bodies.

[Saboteur]

Just recently? That's great!!

Ic0nn, be sure to post some pics here if u can once the car is ready! :D

Yeah it was that guy Ted Hammer. :) Those older closed top bodies are great, but today's racers are loving the Proline Lola's. Aerodynamics is a must for 8th onroad as well as setup.

[Mika]

This one http://www.kyosho.co.jp/web/race/2004race_event/overseas/winternationals_florida2004/result-e.html ? Seems so :D

[Saboteur]

Yep that's it! :) An older 8th onroad in the class of the "Big 3". :)

[Mika]

From 2004 but still a great achievement!

[ic0nn]

got my kit in a week ago. the chassis is a big ol'slab of aluminum. makes my 2.5mm rally chassis look under nourished. the only thing i'm not liking on the car are those C clips that hold the spur gears in place. i dont have the proper tool for that nor have i ever used those types of clips. i will pickup one of those C clip pliers sometime this weekend. as always any tips would be greatly appreciated.

[Truenofan]

got quite the problem here, contacted hpi about my servo saver thats stripped, and they gave me another site and they dont seem to have it. the other site, i cant figure out how to place an order, so im wondering now if there's an alternative servo saver i can use to get it up and running again. oh yeah, hpi, doesnt ship to army bases apparently.

[Saboteur]

Hey Mika have you tested that engine yet?

[Mika]

Nope. Still winter here... (-10C and snow) :( It will take 2-3 months or so...

[ic0nn]

got quite the problem here, contacted hpi about my servo saver thats stripped, and they gave me another site and they dont seem to have it. the other site, i cant figure out how to place an order, so im wondering now if there's an alternative servo saver i can use to get it up and running again. oh yeah, hpi, doesnt ship to army bases apparently.

Trueno: check out Ofna or Kimbrough. Kimbrough makes a bunch of different sizes but their large size may do the trick. older serpent 1/8th also used direct servo steering so serpent may also have that servo saver you need.

Mika: you mean that lola body on your proceed can't plow through snow ;).

[Mika]

Guess it won't ;-)

Also, have a new blitz Lola waiting for trimming and painting..

[Mika]

Few new pics

http://www.snrt.net/0206/proceed_0206_1.jpg

http://www.snrt.net/0206/proceed_0206_2.jpg

[Saboteur]

Sweet looking! According to RB's site though this engine has a lil less torque and power than the S7 buggy engine. That bites. :( I like my top, but it's been a discontinued model. That means if something happens to it I may need a new engine. The S7C is slower though so I'd have to sell the nitro sedan and run the 8th alone. Hmmm soo many decisions :confused:

[Mika]

Yeah.. maybe so.. but what counts is the rpm.. that makes the speed, not power. Onroad engines have more rpm than buggy ones. I don't think power comparison is made onroad vs. offroad on RB pages, only comparing to other onroad engines like C5.

[Saboteur]

They do have both S7s on the page. Well it makes more power, lil less fuel consumption and noticable less torque. Still though for where I'll be running at it will be just slow...lol. It really looks awesome though. :)

[ic0nn]

oh yeah, what wt. oil should i start off with. for my tourers i usually start around 50-60 wt associated oil for my shocks but i figure something this big may take 70 or 80 wt?

[Mika]

Yeah, we'll have to wait a while until we know how it runs. I have the venom speed meter so it is easy to see the speed with stock gearing.

I used the oli supplied with the kit.

[Saboteur]

Most 8th guys running mugens use 60wt all around with the stock springs. They rarely change it. The most things that matters on 8th onroad they say are tires, swaybar adjustments, and changing the blocks on the car.

[ic0nn]

i'll throw in some 60 or 70wt in there then. i just wanted a ball park figure. i know most of the time the springs that are included in most HPI kits tend to be on the soft side unless they made a racer version of the same kit. thanx for the info guys.

[Mika]

I tried the red ones, they seemed to work well with the stock oil

[Saboteur]

Anyone want a Proceed for parts ya got less than 7hrs. GO!

http://cgi.ebay.com/PROCEED-HPI-RACING-W-STARTER-NITRO_W0QQitemZ6036103296QQcategoryZ44015QQrdZ1QQc mdZViewItem

[Mika]

This is not yours however? Hope not... ;-)

[Saboteur]

Nope it's not mine. GOGOGOG!

[chris1]

did hpi cacel production on the proceed? I saw it on tower hobbies but it was discontinued is this true?

[Mika]

It's still on the HPI site

[ic0nn]

:( so sad....

i just purchased a Rex PR321P tuned engine too.

[Saboteur]

Hey that's an awesome engine. You won't be disappointed with its power. Get as much spares for the proceed, plugs, and race that bad boy. :) Nitro season is here and it's time to let the engines roar! :cool:

[crash6]

ok i got this car from a buddy for nothing. but the 2 speed transmission won't shift can anyone point me to a how to for adjusting it? thanks

[Saboteur]

Hi and welcome to the forums! The Super nitro though isn't a 1/8th car. It is more of a 1/9th or super ...that is the class it is in. Here is the link for the SN forum. :)

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?p=1996162#post1996162

[ic0nn]

haven't worked on my cars in a while but will start up again soon. still trying to decide on a pipe, but will probably end up with a Rex 9886. I have the GT-One body but now I'm thinking of going full race with a Lola body.

has anyone experimented with different brake discs?



saboteur:

yeah man, i was all set to purchase the RX221 and an exhaust but then i found the PR321P Tuned available. It was a 100 more than the RX221 but I think its well worth it considering it is the heart of the car.

[Mika]

hi, stock brake disc does its job fine

[Truenofan]

i got my proceed up and running, was having problems finding a servo saver, now it runs beautifly, just need to find enough room to give it everything, anyone know of a good reciver/transmitter with good range, and a nice safety, i dont want the thing to go outta range and just die on me(and then go flying into a car or something). i was running it in a parking lot thats roughly 250-350ftx150-225ft, but it isnt enough -_-.

[ic0nn]

any FM or PCM system will be fine for it. if you are afraid of losing the car due to range or interference, then install a failsafe unit (PCM has one built in).

[Truenofan]

i got a rather cheap pistol, towerhobbies has a futaba pistol for 320 and then the reciver is 60. anything a little less?

[Saboteur]

I went spektrum with my rides and never looked back. :)

[Truenofan]

anyone know if ko propo is any good? im just lookin up something good with a failsafe...cuz i can tell when im leaving my range, it starts acting funny, and delayed in response. oh, and i wont be running it any time soon, i lost the screw for rear power.(gotta buy that one now, and plenty of it, with loctite)

[ic0nn]

the KO failsafe is similar to the older Futaba unit. the newer Futaba failsafe is much smaller and similar (if not the same OEM) as the Ofna unit. any of the failsafe units will do just fine.

you may not need a high end radio for your car. there are a lot of mid-range FM units that will do fine and allow much more adjustments than the AM units.

saboteur:

do you have the regular spektrum or the new "pro" spektrum?

[Saboteur]

Ic0nn. I still use the regular spektrum, not the see thru kind. Besides I won't get what I payed for this RX so unless both of them go then the new ones will be bagged. They got some nice features though.

[Truenofan]

having another problem now, the clutch this time. it seems one of the three little centrifugal things is getting stuck and is always engaging the clutch on that part, and now i cant get a steady idle, i'v dissasembled the clutch assembly and im tightening up a few things that came a little lose, any clue how i could fix this if this doesnt work? one last question, whats a good spot for the spring to engage the clutch.

[Mika]

Make sure you have assembled the clutch as advised in the manual and has some play in it as advised, not too tight. Hope this helps

[Saboteur]

Clutch gap is important as well as how tight the adjuster nut. Use about .5-.9 MM or clutch gap and a good starting point for the adjuster nut is 1mm (of thread showing. Some cars have stiffer springs so not much adjustment is required. A neat trick for clutch shoes is cut the round one into 4 pieces and use it for the flywheel. This ofcourse is great to do if the shoe is cheaper than the 4 pieces themselves. :) I've tried other 4pc shoes and they seem to melt on the mrx4. :eek:

[Truenofan]

it was one of the short steel things that was rusted on the ends, used my dremel to fix that and its perfect now, i ajusted the clutch so that the thing that sets the spring tension even with the metal threaded thing(i dont know the names at the time, brain fart) but its engaging at a rather high rev, and it kinda skids the tires on cement, but not on tar. garrr....now i gotta dissasemble it again... -_-....more bad news on my end, apparently the set screw that holds the front upper pivot pin, shook lose, the whole front left upper suspension came loose, and then the spring came apart too, now im missing the spring, anyone know where i can get a new one? towerhobbies doesnt carry them, and of course hpi doesnt ship to posts....or is there another type of spring i can use.

[Truenofan]

well i got soft springs form th, im gonna use those in the rear, and use the stiffer in the front. not sure how its gonna affect the handling of the vehicle, now i gotta figure how how im going to hold the spring in, because its missing the cap on the bottom to hold the spring to it. -_-, im just having problem after problem.

[Mika]

Just dialed in my Pro according to the manual
Can't wait to get in the track after it still warmers up a bit
http://www.snrt.net/Proceed/proceed1.jpg
Want also to paint a new body before

[Saboteur]

Looks great mika! How cold is it there? It's int he upper 60-80s here in the USA now.

[Mika]

Hi, thanks! Well actually the temp is not the problem, we've been racing offroad buggies for about a month now, currently we are talking about 50-60 F or slightly more occasionally. Worse is the yellow breeding "stuff" from trees and plants that covers the asphalt tracks and traction is pretty bad. Let's wait for a while, towards July, then we gonna burn some serious rubber :D No hurry, racing buggies has been fun but can't wait getting my hands on this baby though ;-)

[Mika]

Finally painted and trimmed a new body, expecting to hit the track soon
http://www.snrt.net/proceed02.jpg

[Saboteur]

SWEETNESS! Run that thing n lemme know how's the engine. :)

[Mika]

Sure! Already run one tank thru on idle, next running-in on the track. Sounds are promising already :D

http://www.snrt.net/proceed03.jpg

[GRUNDIG415]

very nice car...

[Mika]

Thanks!
Saboteur, Great engine, great car !!
Here's a short vid http://www.snrt.net/Video005.mp4 but at this clip it's still on the rich side, after leaning some it really got going

[Saboteur]

Yeah, that is short hehe. It looks really great. I wish I could go for one, but it seems I will have to atleast run the RB C5 to get my way around the track. My TOp will need a replacement sooner or later for optimum performance and the onyl available sleeve is the RB C3. Not sure how that runs but I hear it's great.

[Mika]

Yeah, I will change gearing 1 teeth longer so it will stretch out nicely on the long straight.

[Mika]

Hi,
it's been a while. Had a national race last weekend, only 6 racers (this class is not ther most popular these days you know).. I finished third.
They say car is not competitive anymore but I really liked driving it. I was the only driver with HPI, other Kyosho and Mugen.
RB S7II engine lacked slightly on power compared to high power racing counterparts but it was sure easy in all ways. Several collisions but no wreaks. Blitz body took the hits also with ease.
I clocked 88 km/h with Venom. Next, would like to see a Sirio WC or RB C5 on this car.
Cheers,
Mika

[Saboteur]

Awesome man. Definately step up the motor since that RB is kinda weak. Atleast the OS .21 VZR or the Mega ZX21 power package. I'm buying a carlsen modified ZX21 from a friend.

[Mika]

Yeah, I think so. Better engine is the next step.

Have you guys been racing/running ?

[nitro06]

wow man that is a nice car u have there how much was it all up?

[Mika]

Thanks! We are in Europe so I'd say 400€ for the car, 20€ for the body, 250€ for the engine and pipe set, plus radio gear which I basically had already. And some sets of new tires. The good thing with this car is that you can get occasionally spares from eBay pretty cheap.

[ic0nn]

hey guys, have any of you seen an option part that replaces the rear bulkhead with an aluminum one? i've seen a couple of cars equiped with it but i've never seen anything like that, not even on delta's website. does anyone know who makes it?

[Mika]

Why? Does it break?
Last race I was run several times into my rear and I don't see even a slightest mark on it...
A-Arms seem intacted, too

[ic0nn]

not really a necessity, just something i think is cool and that i would like on my car.

btw guys, i just bought a second proceed with HPI/Novarossi. Does anyone know where i can still get those carbon parts for the proceed?

[ic0nn]

NVM, just saw some on buy HPI. have you guys ever used these?

[Mika]

I haven't. Must be stronger and lighter than stock arms?

[ic0nn]

i dont know about stronger, but they look very stiff compared to the stocker HPI plastic and a little lighter. i got the rear arms and hubs with my car but i still need the front arms to make it complete.

generally graphite injected pieces are made to improve suspension performance, but they dont like impacts as much since they dont have as much give.

i also have the 2001 spec chassis that has the cutouts for the bulkheads and midblock mounts so you can use a smaller diameter foams. dont know if i'll use that chassis but its nice to have.

[Saboteur]

Definately skip on plastic arms. PRP has these alloy arms for the car that are lightweight and VERY strong. If only HPI kept up on the Proceed that'd be rather nice. :)

[ic0nn]

i tend to stay away from aluminum arms. not because i'm afraid of bending them on impact but because they seem to put additional wear on hingepins compared to plastic or carbon pieces. also they add sprung weight which actually hampers suspension performance. i agree though, aluminum arms look killer.

it seems today's race cars emphasize adjustability. at one point i think it went a little overboard (a la serpent veteq). but the current crop of cars have a good balance between adjustability and actual track performance from a base setup. i think the proceed was designed during a time where adjustability just isnt as much emphasized.

further performance gain would be nice, but i'd like to see them go serpent route by shaving some weight off the drivetrain, like the 2 speed and hollowing out the main shaft and midlbock layshaft.

i kinda like the way the car looks now. very clean layout. i could have bought an MRX-4 for what i paid to setup my proceed. but i've always been a big fan of this particular car and HPI in general.

just out of curiousity where can you get the PRP arms?

[Mika]

iconn, I totally agree

[Saboteur]

Well these actually aren't alum. They are a LOT stronger and I've seen two withstand some high speed crashes upto 45mph+. Off throttle you won't kiss the boards as hard especially if you have drag brake on. If not, then yeah it's gonna hurt a bit more. These arms will fit the PRP only though. The LHS up here in CT fits them, but maybe you can order them online. They look like they are black anodized, but again I'd have to recheck on the type of metal.

[ic0nn]

Saboteur: I live in mass so i'm not that far off. What shop are you referring to ?

Mika: I still think HPI has one of the best cars around. No one builds them like this anymore! ;)

I've been working a lot lately so i havent had time to even build the cars. But i'm slowly acquiring more items for the cars since they're just sitting there.

Will post pics as soon as construction gets underway.

[Saboteur]

Aces Nitro hobby shop. It's in Bridgeport, CT.

[ic0nn]

Well, i just checked HPI's website and they have moved our beloved Proceed with the rest of their discontinued models. I've enjoyed my HPI cars greatly over the years and have always loved their products. Its sad to see all the classes of cars that i love go.

[Mika]

Yeah. I actually sold mine.Only offroading these days...

[ragamuffin]

Hi,
RB S7II engine lacked slightly on power compared to high power racing counterparts but it was sure easy in all ways.


Isn't that a buggy engine?

[Mika]

No, this was the S7II circuit version, but they have the buggy version, too

[ic0nn]

almost done building :D.

takes me a while to finish things but i'm building two cars at once. one will soon be sold to my friend,the other will be mine.

i was somewhat surprised by the finish of the plastic pieces. most were the usual HPI quality but there were some miscellaneous parts that had a very rough type of finish with lots of flash. and this isnt because of my particular kit, i have two kits and they both have the same quality more or less.

sabateour or mika was right about the brake disc being high quality, no complaints :) . will post some pics for when i'm truly done for more ranting and raving.

[aldizzy]

I just got my hands on a proceed. I am in the rebuilding stage with tons of extra parts. It's just good to see that people are still interested in this vehicle.

[GRUNDIG415]

lets see some pics guys....

[ic0nn]

does anyone know where to get some extra belts for this car? i've been having a hard time sourcing parts.

[aldizzy]

Let's start talking about this sweet car again. Don't let this topic just die! I recently began working on mine again and I plan on racing it this summer. Anyone else still fiddle around with theirs?

[jose1977]

does any body have or know where i can get parts for a proceed?