Maximum MT

[lowRS4]

Does any body have a maximum mt

[BobDole]

Yea, I do. What would you like to know? Im not particularly pleased with it, but its not like I can change it. I guess every model has its ups and downs though....

[joeman991]

me, do you have ?s



joey

[lowRS4]

the best thing I can do to make it faster :confused:

[joeman991]

how?

[BobDole]

Hey its me. I just got my 2 speed tranny installed and figured out my tuned pipe problem, and those are both a big improvement. My pipe is huge- so its more for way down low and not top speed, but the 2 speed makes up for it. Im a lot more pleased with my truck than I was a month or so ago- I got my engine problems resolved. :) I would also reccomend a HD servo w/ metal gears for the steering. Also- I put little donuts of fuel tubing in the places where the dogbones go- it keeps them snug and protected. Also will keep things from falling apart back there. Those are the upgrades I think are most usefull- not too expensive either. about 100 bux for all. well, maybe 125. :-)
Hey if you have any questions Id be glad to answer. Seems like we are a minority here, and the forums are all dead! So ill keep checking back here :cool:

[Relyte]

I purchased a used Maximum MT for $150 US with TH .15, and one extra TH .15.

I haven't received it yet, probably will get it within 2 weeks.

I can't wait though. This is my first nitro r/c.

Relyte

[WSU_EE_PhD]

I really like my Max MT. I bought it used and put a cheap Ofna Force .12 engine on it. I added a few of the Duratrax hop ups for it, like the bearings and pipe. It is pretty quick with the little .12 engine on it. I think it is a really good truck for what it is. My standard steering servo really wasn't enough so I made some steering upgrades, including a 1/4 scale ball bearing servo. Pics of that here.

http://home1.gte.net/howcome/servo.htm

[megaman]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
finally, someone who likes there truck as much as me!

[tigger2]

i have a maximum mt, its all stoock except for the tuned pie and some bearings. this truck is awesome ive been taking it off some snow jumps. i cant drive it right now the tempatures have ranged from 10 degrees to -10 degrees.

[SAMMY D]

Do you guys ever find that the body posts are really weak? I was watching my breakin movie for my Quake, and the body in the MT looked like it was shooting back and forth and shaking violently over ever bump.

[tigger2]

the body posts are not weak but flimsy. the body does move around a little when landing and stuff

[SAMMY D]

Does anything break?

[tigger2]

nothing has broken on mine so far. All i had to do was replace the crappy pipe it came with. And that only cost $26

[SAMMY D]

Ya, which pipe did you get? the duratrax hop up tuned pipe?

[tigger2]

Yeah i got the tuned pipe. its here at tower hobbies: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG89&P=7
It makes the car run twice as good and its not as loud as the original pipe.

[SAMMY D]

ya thats a good one

[joeman991]

i bent the front of my chassie

[tigger2]

All of the duratrax plastic A-arms and stuff are really bendy and flexible. they're hard to break because they just flex a lot.

[rellekndak]

does anybody know if there is aluminum suspension arms available? And if there is where can I get some?
Thanks for the info

[megaman]

the only aluminum arms available are for the max st, youd have to buy st turnbuckles and steering links along with the arms to get everything working. you shouldnt need them anyways because those stock arms are so tough. and they weigh your truck down anyways. here (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSD51&P=K)

[jokersgear]

I was running my truck this week and got tuned real good but as soon as I hit the brakes it dies. Has anybody else seen this and have any ideas?? I think I have converted it into a stadium truck.

Joker

[tigger2]

My truck did that for a while. What we did was we messed and moved around the throttle and the brake cable becasue when youre hitting the break its closing the carburator.

[megaman]

you need to tighten the throttle stop screw about 1/4-1/2 a turn, that'll fix it.

[jokersgear]

Thanks for the information. It turns out that the idel setscrew was sticking and not letting the linkage work properly. A guy at the local track helped me get it adjusted properly. This truck runs well and is pretty quick. I am considering the tuned pipe next and the bearings. I also need to work on the frot end. It does not return back like it should. Has any one moved to the different holes on the a-arm otr did you stay with the stock. I sqeaks when you work the action so I am going to lube it up and see what happens. Is there better springs that stock??

Thanks, Joker

[jahdisp25]

Okay I have this maximum MT but now I have teh new savage an the maximum is actually faster!

Anyways I was reading about teh brake problem and cannot figure it out, as soon as I hit the brake it dies and I dont know what screw you guys are refering to?

Anybody have a pic??

[megaman]

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/attachment.php?postid=930003 the one labeled "throttle stop screw", tighten it about 1/2 turn, if its idling too fast, take it out some, if it still stalls, tighten it more.

[jokersgear]

You might have have to loosen the servo linkage and see if you are able to tighten it as needed. Mine was bound up for some reason and I could not get the proper adjustment until I did the.

Just a thought. Joker

[joeman991]

what things are requied to turn the mt to a pro?

[megaman]

if you want to make it better, you'd need an aluminum idler (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG88&P=7) , just for strength, and a two speed (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVU70&P=7) , for more low/ high end. if not a metal spur (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRP19&P=7) , again for strength. a stronger 6061t6 chassis (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG82&P=7) for weight and strength. the aluminum bellcranks (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG86&P=7) , for less "play". some aluminum rear hubs (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSD40&P=7) , aluminum hub carriers (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSD42&P=7) , andaluminum hubs (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSD46&P=7)

[Glockster35]

Anyone care to provide a list of parts to configure an ST or MT pro to a ST or MT..

Parts I am most interested in is the clutch, spur gears etc.

I have a St pro, that I would like to turn into a single speed using the steel MT 52 tooth gear.

I can't see spending $60, to get the 52 and 48 tooth ST Pro gears from "Duragears.com"

[dutchboy 618]

Hey guys

I bought my mt two days ago and its really cool!!!!!!!But it gets really hot when I drive in the grass for 1 tank

I wanted to know what the best upgrade would be and if a t-maxx body will fit the mt


Thanks

dutchboy 618:D :D :D :D :D

[Glockster35]

Congrats on getting the truck.

Be very careful about driving it in the grass on hot days, because the grass will actually slow the trucks movement, and make the engine work harder to move the truck. High grass is probably a bad idea anyway as it can lead to burnt up spur gears.

As for the T-Max bodies, from the looks of it and checking the measurements, one of the Atomik (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0095P?FVSEARCH=atomik&FVPROFIL=++) T-Maxx bodies should fit perfectly on the ST or MT.

I haven't tried it but should work well.

Aslo most of the T-Maxx bodies are built to more like a 1/9th scale instead of a true 1/10th scale. So they will likely fit the frame of the ST or MT, but they may look silly or of different scale.

[dutchboy 618]

Hey guys

I ran my truck today and it still got hot with the body on and i was driving in gravel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And at the end of my tank it didn't drive anymorre but the spur gear was still going my dad and I tried to fix it but it didn't work that much,we are going to my local hobbyshop and ask for some help. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


P.S. Why isn't anybody posting anymore oh and look at this page


http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=132006

[megaman]

everyone kindof collaborates in the max st forum. they all go there because there all the same thing. head on over there, theres more action. im kindof lazy to post but you should know this.

[Matt Stepanian]

I now have an MT and I really like it. Its pretty fast, climbs stuff in my neighborhood really well, and seems easy to take care of. Its currently all stock, so of course I want a header & pipe. Anybody like the Duratrax header & pipe that the Pro's come with? They're only like $25 from Tower.
C ya
Matt

[rccowboy181]

my maximum mt,
I got one two its about to go on three years old! I love it I put the tuned pipe on it and man oh man does it ever fly now!!! but I am having engine problems currently i just rebuilt it and broke it in using blue thunder first run and followed the break in procedure it ran great through that but then I let it sit for about two months I cleaned out the tank and ran it till it died from lack of gas and then shelved it for the rainy season, I just tryed running it the other day and it won't rev up it will only idle when i rev it up it gets up to about half way open then it just sputters out and dies i replaced the glow plug twice now and tuned it and tuned it but to no change, Please some body help me I jsut love my mt!!!!!

[crip]

My Overdrive started doing that, I had to richen the mix, wasn't getting enough fuel as the engine opened up. I also had the header shake loose without noticing, limiting the rpm. See if your fuel lines have cracked.

[microrcdude]

tower just discontinued it. i wonder why??

[megaman]

they're discontinuing the max st and the max mt because the max st/mt pros are alot better. they're probably going to discontinue the pro's as well in a couple years or so...

[keebler]

Originally posted by joeman991
me, do you have ?s



joey
i got a new chassis and universal dog bones for my mt and i still loose the dog bones sometimes. i also bent the tab on chassis so suspension could not go to low or too high and loose them that way?????
what else to do ?? ...:confused:
..spur gear and clutch bell is set with strip of paper and almost cuts through it,and i have went though 4 metal spur gears and clutch bells also , breaking teeth out of them? it should be set fine ! i don't have trouble with tmax, n rustler, or n pede and they just have plastic spur's?????? i think that the torq 16 is too much for this truck...lol... :D
the high speed needle will not hold an adjustment either, does it need a new "o" ring or wat? thanx.....:D

[ST RACER]

i put the metal spur on my max st (came stock with torq .16) and it ripped 3 teeth right out. i just ordered 5 plastic ones. let's see how long this lasts. i got my dad to make me a metal spur that was the size of the plastic ones. it's heavy but it has lasted for atleast 1 year now. i'm gonna use the plastic ones because of weight and friction on the clutch bell. i'm getting an os cv-rx so if it can handle that i just created a wicked bad alignment with the duratrax metal spur. i used the paper method and burnt through my plastic spur really fast. i usually just push the clutch bell right up to the spur and clamp down the engine mounts. i haven't had a gear strip since then and i've driven it through grass, mud, gravel, dirt, full throttle over jumps. it's holding up pretty good. and about the axles, are they falling out or what, i haven't had any problems with them, i don't know what you mean.

[keebler]

yes...the dog bones come out of the drive joints that stick out on either side of the gear case..........

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD345&P=7....

here is a url of joints,,bones can't come out of the wheel shafts,so now it can come out of these, not no why????
anyone know why or how is it possible? got me stumped!!!!
as i said before it has universal dog bones in it now. i can't see any loose things in the suspension, don't know how it can stretch so far as to lose the bones?...:confused:

[Are-see-truk]

Hey Guys.

I recieved my Maximum MT from tower on friday, and got i got it running today it is SOOOO cool:cool: :D it is snowing out so i ran it in my garage. Took 3-6 mins. to start it:eek:

i HOPE it took a bit to start beacause it was quite cold out and the fact it has never been ran before:D... But so far so good:cool:

P.S. There are no new posts here:confused: Are we a dying breed:confused: :confused: ??????

[ST RACER]

go to the max st/st pro forum, the max st, mt, and bx are almost identical and that's where we talk. also, are you sure your glow starter was charged enough. when the engine is started for the first time you have to turn the throttle trim up so the carb is more open then at a regular idle since the engine is so rich. you might have flooded it with the primer or there might not have even been gas in the engine at all.after break in the engine should start really easily, atleast mine did. r/c cars are cool that's for sure.

[ST RACER]

well my brother got his max mt a while ago and man it's way better in the snow then my st. started and ran great, i haven't seen any problems. i bought my max prebuilt so i didn't get the rtr like my bro did and the only bad think about the rtr is that the batteries that they give you are the cheapest pieces of juck i've ever seen. meh, oh well. Also i have a question, do the new max mt's come stock with the aluminum idler gear or what. my max st did, but i don't wan't to rip apart my brothers truck to see if it does or not. we use it all the time and i don't wan't a weak drivetrain. nothing has made me more mad in r/c then having a weak drivetrain. so far it is a great truck and handles alot better then i thought it would with those massive tires.

[dhutch]

if you want to make it better, you'd need . a stronger 6061t6 chassis (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG82&P=7) for weight and strength.

Is that chassis much better??

- i have a Max ST, and i cant keep the std chassis stright!!, my LMS does stock the T6 chassis, but i though i try one (mail order) - only thing puting my off is, there thiner and more expensive :(

- why can thay make a 3mm one from the T6 alu??

[Xtreeme]

i got a new chassis and universal dog bones for my mt and i still loose the dog bones sometimes. i also bent the tab on chassis so suspension could not go to low or too high and loose them that way?????
what else to do ?? ...:confused:
..spur gear and clutch bell is set with strip of paper and almost cuts through it,and i have went though 4 metal spur gears and clutch bells also , breaking teeth out of them? it should be set fine ! i don't have trouble with tmax, n rustler, or n pede and they just have plastic spur's?????? i think that the torq 16 is too much for this truck...lol... :D
the high speed needle will not hold an adjustment either, does it need a new "o" ring or wat? thanx.....:D


Teeth break when mesh is right for two reasons only. ONE -the slipper cluctch isnt tight and is creating heat through friciton. Run the truck hard (fast) then bring it in and check the gear, shouldnt go over 90f max. I turn mine all the way in-then back off about 1/16 of a turn. Or it burns slipper pads up and ripps spur teeth off. Ive gotten 3/4 of a gallon out of the last spur gear since I did this. Second reason. Chasis flex when jumping. I made frame rails for mine to eliminate all flxeing on jumps. She now takes 5' jumps and laughs at them. Keep trucking guys. The MT is a fine machine. Fast and furious too. I beat a stock revo this week both on jumps AND on the take off. At 150' stretch he ate my dust. The Tmaxx she beats also. They all were in awe of that little truck. Which is cool cause I got a few laughs at it when I got it out. hahaha. Who's laughing now. Ive had mine for 5 years. And Ill never sell it. Next truck Im adding to the line up is the Pirate 1/10 truck.

Hop-ups
Frame rails
Billet alumnium flywheel/ +spacer with 4 shoe teflon clutch
Tuned pipe set short
Single metal spur gear (short track setup)
Inner and outter wheel bearings
13t bell housing

Next -tires (dirt hawgs stocks are almost bald)
20 weight shock oil
8 shock mod (will show pics then)
steering bell cranks (mking my own)

The entire sterring of this truck is week. Thats my only complaint. So Im running a new setup on cad then building it out of aluminum. Alot of force in the wrong direction stock. Creates slop in steering. And ruins servos. Also adding bearings to steering. :cool:

[Xtreeme]

Is that chassis much better??

- i have a Max ST, and i cant keep the std chassis stright!!, my LMS does stock the T6 chassis, but i though i try one (mail order) - only thing puting my off is, there thiner and more expensive :(

- why can thay make a 3mm one from the T6 alu??

You can A) add frame rails like I did or.......
B) take TWO frames. Cut the turned up sides off one. Then layer the two together. And get slightly longer screw for everything that goes though chasis. :)

[loganberry]

yeah some people think these things are crap but i like my alot. i have a tuned pipe and some ball bearings. i want to get the 2-speed tranny. any luck with the 2-speed? later.

[gigacrush]

hey guys i got a maxxium st pro parts car its all there though . besides for the diff needs a little plastic block. it has lots of alluminum and the 2 speed with a set of rear cvds and the torx 16 motor that needs a recoil. if anyone is intrested drop me a pm 100$invested

[loganberry]

how much were the cvds? on my mt the rear shafts are popping out whenever i take a sharp turn. their starting to get bent also. hopefully ill be racing her soon. later.

[gigacrush]

i only have one extra and they were 36.99 a pair for the shiny chrome.it also has lots of alluminumlike front and rear hubs.a 2 speed the hardend chassie. with bb steering and the cvds are new and only installed . never been ran yet.heres a pic of some off the seering and front hubs.

[gigacrush]

and heres one of the rear

[stampederacin]

I have a few questions about the Maximum MT
1. What is the top speed of the truck, stock, running 20% nitro?
2. How do I know when its time for my engine to be rebuilt?
3. I bought the truck used, and the guy who had it before me changed the exhaust, I think this (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXVG89&P=ML) is the pipe he put on it. What did that do for performance?

[stampederacin]

Anybody?^^

[loganberry]

1. top speed would be around 35-40mph without the tuned pipe.
3. when i bought the truck i didnt even bother with the stock pipe, so i put the tuned pipe on, so i cant compare to stock. but this truck is quite fast, mostly because it weighs less than 4 pounds. good luck with the truck. is this your first nitro? i would also suggest get ball bearings, if their not already on it. how much was the truck, if you dont mind me asking? later.

[stampederacin]

Yes, this is my first nitro. I think the original owner put bearings in it. My friend bought it used from the LHS, and I traded my RC18-T for it.

[loganberry]

So hows it going? Running good? Later.

[stampederacin]

Its running great. But, on rougher terrain the right dogbone keeps on popping out. I guess Ill have to see about get some CVDs or something.

[loganberry]

Yeah i have the same problem. I was going to buy cvds, but dont feel like spending the cash. They only pop out about twice a tank. Later.

[stampederacin]

Twice a tank! I think thats a lot. Mine only come out about once every 5-10 tanks.

[loganberry]

O. Well I dont drive mine much anymore. I was thinking of racing it, but I found out it would get expensive. Later.

[stampederacin]

The connecting rod broke on my .16. So I think I might just get another engine, instead of fixing the .16. What would be a good engine to get for my MT?

[rc man37689]

fantom .15....
i have a fantom .12 im my max st and it kicks ass lol

[stampederacin]

Where can I find some info about the Fantom .15?

[rc man37689]

Where can I find some info about the Fantom .15?
http://www.fantomracing.com/
http://www.stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/searchpn.pl?dterm=fantom&dterm3=&pn=&mterm=&oterm=&uterm=&sthumb=on&smode=0

http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=180158&highlight=fantom+.15
everyone in that thread loves it lol
:cool:

[stampederacin]

Thanks for the help, but Im going with the O.S. .18 CV-RX.

[moparhemifan]

how would i go about tuning the car (like the wheels, and stuff?)?

i have a max. mt, and am trying to get back into driving it.

also, any recommendations for driving it after a period of a year or two (i know, i know, i'm evil to it, i'm sorry).

thx

[loganberry]

Welcome back. I want to get back into driving mine too now that I have a broken ankle and cant do anything else. Starting it up might be a little difficult. I dont know if you live where its cold, but blowdry the engine for a little while to heat it up before you start it. You did put afterrun oil in it before you stored it right? :) Good luck. Got any mods on er? later

[stampederacin]

You might have to pour some fuel in the carb. to get it to start.

[moparhemifan]

Welcome back. I want to get back into driving mine too now that I have a broken ankle and cant do anything else. Starting it up might be a little difficult. I dont know if you live where its cold, but blowdry the engine for a little while to heat it up before you start it. You did put afterrun oil in it before you stored it right? :) Good luck. Got any mods on er? later



Thanks. I live in the Northern part of the Midwest. Sooo.... yeah, it's a bit chilly up here.


How about if we.... aherm... accidentally didn't put afterrun oil in it? How bad are we lookin' at for a start up? :(

Fuel was out of the engine, but no oil. :(

[loganberry]

It might not be too bad. The after-run oil prevents rust. Its possible that you have some in there. You might want to put some in through the glowplug hole and carb and let it rest over night. Later.

[moparhemifan]

It might not be too bad. The after-run oil prevents rust. Its possible that you have some in there. You might want to put some in through the glowplug hole and carb and let it rest over night. Later.


Ahhh... OK. Thanks.

[moparhemifan]

Regarding the ball bearings:

Why are they good/necessary? And, what would they be used for?

thx

[loganberry]

The ball bearing go in the hubs. Two per tire. They reduce friction, keep you engine running cooler, and running longer. Theres a noticable increase of speed when you put them on. You get her running yet? Later.

[moparhemifan]

The ball bearing go in the hubs. Two per tire. They reduce friction, keep you engine running cooler, and running longer. Theres a noticable increase of speed when you put them on. You get her running yet? Later.


ok. thanks. would anything tell us how to install them and stuff?


she is running! after two years of sitting around, she runs, and she started up very easily (we used carb cleaner and a lil engine starter).

i was surprised that it started so easily and our glow plug started worked. we only had to replace the tiny little glow plug in the engine, but we had one sitting around, and replaced it. the air filter keeps coming off, but we got about two tanks of gas through it, and got it going again.

it runs nice mid-speed, but we gotta figure out why the high-end speed is a bit shaky. but, it starts and runs! that's enuf for me.

[dhutch]

I put ballbearings in mt MaxST (esentally the same truck) from scratch, that just prevent wear and run smoother.
- I also bought the CVDs, i was a bit iffy about it, cos its a lott of money, and i'd heard of the brecking and falling apart etc, however there great, you cant shrinkwrap them like a lot of people do to keep the pins is, becuase there isnt enough clearence, but ive only lost a pin twice, and the pins from slipper clutch fit perfectly so thats cool. And it lets my run the rear wishbones upside down.
- As a cheaper fix, try puting a short lenght of fuel tube crossways into the outdrives, this helps hold the dogbones agasint the stub axals, which is where they come out.

Also after my engine wore out (quite quickly) i put a OS CV-RX .15 in with an team AE tuned pipe, which im very happy with, much nicer engine, starts first pull, far more powerfull, and very east to tune.

Also ive replaced the chassis, the stearing arms and the servosaver, the chassis strut and the trackrods, and added a rx box and 6v rx pack, and replaced the four rear hinge-pins, and got two new sets of tyres (proline mashers, and imex clawdawgs, with inserts)


Daniel

[loganberry]

Sounds like a nice ride. Yeah I didnt feel like buying the cvds so I tired putting fuel tubing on the swingshafts to keep them from popping out, but didnt work. All you have to do for the bearings is take off the wheels and take out the cups and the nut. You might want to get new nuts though because they migh want to slip when you try to put them on. later.

[dhutch]

Put the fuel tubing in the out drive, just a lenght just long enought to stay put, and wedge its crossways in the bottom of the outdrive, it worked wonders for me, with that mod i could keep them in for 3/4tanks with the wishbones upside down.
- And basicaly for ever with them the right way up.

And as loganbery says, to swapt the bearings you need to take the wheel off, break loose the aluminum 'nut' shape (image (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXD332&P=PU)) by geting a flat bladed screwdriver behind it. Then take the hingepin out of the end of the 'upper rod' to allow you the rivot the rear hub in order to get the dog bone out and remove the stub axle, then you can push the bushes out with a screwdriver.
- Also i might well replace the axle as well if thats worn (ie, if its a loose fit in the bearing) - I had to replace one once when i ball bearing seazed .


Daniel

[nate3711]

How much do you think I could sell my Max MT for? It is lightly used, everything is still stock (except for the back shocks, which were recently replaced), very clean, and only has a little rust on the exhaust. I haven't used it in awhile but I just started it up and runs fine. Everything would be included with the truck; the remote, plastic body cover, original packaging, etc. I tried to look on ebay but didn't get too many results to compare it to. Thanks

[loganberry]

Im guessing around $125. The value of these things decline expontential almost after ya take it out of the box. lol. Ill have to try that trick dhutch, if i ever can find my air cleaner. later.

[stampederacin]

Within the last 5 tanks through my O.S. .18 I have stripped 2 metal spurs and a clutch bell. Whats causing this to happen? I already know about gear mesh.