6x6 TXT-1

[Tamiya-TLO1]

Is a 6X6 TXT-1 possible because i want my TXT-1 to be one. Does anyone have one?pictures?

[Hairball]

I've been thinking about doing one.... you'd have to custon make the input shaft on the center axle (and modify the axle cap) to have an output on the rear to drive the rear axle, unless you just want the rear axle to be free spinning.

And a custom chassis extension as well. Easy to do, just takes time and money. :D

[Tamiya-TLO1]

Well I was thinking about what to do for a long time and I decided the next step is to get another truck and make 2 TXt's into one with the back of one and the front of the other cut off( the bumper and stick the back axel of the one inbetween the two make another hole out side of the one axel and get some longer drive shafts. then figure out the multilink set up make the 8 2 the middle axel longer and. I have to think of the rest but I will post some pics of my drawing. Keeeep the posts comng.

[Hairball]

I'm affaid that I will probably be the only other person posting here. Most people aren't interested in custom creations, or anything that isn't "Main stream" for that exact moment. The TXT-1's fame has come and gone it seems. I still love mine to death, but few others seem to care. :(

Oh well. I'll sitck with ya!

[Tamiya-TLO1]

This is just a quick sketch of the middle but i have to figure out some kind of rear middle stearing lok-out, the middle will not turn. And i also have somethings in mind for the suspension.

[Tamiya-TLO1]

sorry did not work am i doing something wrong it did not work

[Tamiya-TLO1]

http://www.rapidcars.com/index2.html

[Tamiya-TLO1]

C:\My Documents\RC Car Stuff\Poject 6x6x4

[weeb_beano]

The only successful 6WD i have seen using a standard pumpkin/axle is Maxzillian's mutant monster, Quagmire. He used a very interesting hybrid gearbox and was able to run propeller shafts to each axle. In addition to that, the truck is powered by a nitro engine. He can explain better than i could. Check out his site at:

http://www.maxzilla2000.com

[Tamiya-TLO1]

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[Tamiya-TLO1]

C:\My Documents\RC Car Stuff\Poject 6x6x4.img

[Tamiya-TLO1]

C:\My Documents\RC Car Stuff\Poject 6x6x4.jpeg

[Tamiya-TLO1]

C:\My Documents\RC Car Stuff\Poject 6x6x4\Middle section.tifC:\My Documents\RC Car Stuff\Poject 6x6x4\Middle section.jpeg

[weeb_beano]

You might want to try attaching the image as a file, in the 'Attach File' field, since it looks like from the URL that the image itself is not living on a web host or anything...

[Tamiya-TLO1]

I'll try it again

[yuckydog]

http://www.yuckydog.com/~james/public/lav1.jpg
http://www.yuckydog.com/~james/public/lav2.jpg
http://www.yuckydog.com/~james/public/lav3.jpg
http://www.yuckydog.com/~james/public/lav4.jpg

[Hairball]

Nice rig, but uh, this is a 6x6 forum, not an 8x8 forum silly guy....

:p :p :p

just playin...

[SteveK]

Technically that's a 8x4x8, since it's only 4WD.

The TXT-1 can't easily be made 6WD, but there was a chassis made for the Clod Buster to make a 6x6. It was from Sassy Chassis, and they went out of business again a few years ago (They were gone for most of the 1990s after being a huge aftermarket company in the 1980's and early 90's). You can probably find one on ebay or some monster truck trading site, or even make your own.

[yuckydog]

Originally posted by SteveK
Technically that's a 8x4x8, since it's only 4WD.

The TXT-1 can't easily be made 6WD, but there was a chassis made for the Clod Buster to make a 6x6. It was from Sassy Chassis, and they went out of business again a few years ago (They were gone for most of the 1990s after being a huge aftermarket company in the 1980's and early 90's). You can probably find one on ebay or some monster truck trading site, or even make your own.

I had plans to modify the Jug2 gearboxes along with an extended propeller shaft design to get power to the outer-most wheels but now have decided to go the Clod gearcase route as that's much easier (motor is mounted right on the gearcase). :)

[SteveK]

It's bound to be much cheaper to use the Clod gerboxes rather than TXT-1 parts just to buy the stuff, not even counting the custom work. Clod and Jugg/TXT-1 axle assemblies are probably close to each other in price, but you also need a tranny for the Jugg-based truck.

The problem many of the 6WD crawlers have is getting the power from the 2nd axle to the 3rd axle without limiting the suspension because of that short driveshaft.

It's just better overall to go with the Clod stuff for a project like this.

[rcfreakofnature]

heres my 6x6x2
http://www.geocities.com/freakinfigures/6x6x2.html
go there then to parts used
my friend made the site

[HPI FREAK]

how 'bout a TXT-1 and a clod rear axle put together?:D

[weeb_beano]

Well, i've started a 6WD/6WS Juggernaut project recently.
It will have a pass-through axle setup, and should have enough power despite being a one-motor only truck.

It's been done, btw. TXTDragon from R-C-M-T dotnet has a 6WD TXT-1 with a similar setup. I'm following his lead but putting my spin on it.

Some pictures:

Pass-through axle that i machined out of 416 stainless. I made a duplicate out of A2L tool steel, in case this one breaks, but also to serve as a template.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress01.jpg

The shaft installed.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress07.jpg

The transmission, from a previous project which i gutted to make this one. The box in front of the jugg2/TXT tranny is the Tamiya big rig tranny. The motor is a Hacker B50XL.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress08.jpg

Sure, the motor looks like it will tear the tranny apart, but don't underestimate those big rig trannies. They can take a beating. Plus whatever parts get broken i will just machine a replacement out of a stronger material.

Thanks for reading!

[rx78gp03s]

i'm guessing no one has seen the txt dragon yet.
this is not mine!
here' yah go:

http://pics.montypics.com/TXTDragon/2003-05-02/1051910748_May02_04.jpg
the owner might be making the parts available if enuf ppl are interested in it.

[krisI.925]

weeb how many cells do u plan to run that thing on and how fast are u estimating it to go with, what......3 speeds.

[weeb_beano]

I'm not planning on going terribly fast with it. Slightly faster than stock would be fine for me, relative to the performance with dual 17T brushed motors is what i am targetting. I'm going to try everything from 6 to 12 cells onboard.

Some updates:

This is a view of the middle axel. The suspension layout is a full elliptical, face-to-face leaf spring setup. Maxzillian set me on the course for something like this by pointing me to 3/4 elliptical pics used for rock crawling.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress16.jpg

This is a view of the front axle. Top links are not connected yet. The picture above should make more sense when viewed in context with this one.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress15.jpg

[Maxx_A_Million]

...wow

[maX energ]

thats...crazy...brushless 3 speed 6 wheels! lol man you got your hands full on that project, then like a neat king hauler body or something i dunno its up to you.....nice work!

[weeb_beano]

Thanks! I havent been working on the truck consistently lately, but here are some somewhat recent pics of it.

http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress18.jpg

http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress23.jpg

http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress25.jpg

[Maxx_A_Million]

*chokes on air*

wholly crap those look good. . . whats the one on the left?? same design, different suspension? wow. . . those are amazing dude...

[NMT_RACER_BOY]

wow! nice

[randominsanity]

the one on the left looks like a juggy!:D
p.s. i like that semi video keep up the good work!

[WDGuy]

Can anyone say tug-of-war:D

[goldtj]

:D can u say snapped rope lol!

[WDGuy]

I would like to see it snap a fourwheeler snatch rope. Snatch rope means: a rope used to pull a fourwheeler out of mud or some other sticky situations, pulling capacity 1500lbs and higher.

[goldtj]

Fair enough :D

[weeb_beano]

Thanks guys :) Sorry, i haven't checked this thread (or forum for that matter) in a while... to answer some of the questions: The truck on the left is a 6WD Clod. It's name is Tiamat. More info about the truck lives here:

http://www.mtsquad.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=11

It's a beast, having three C50L motors onboard, and one hell of a guzzler (consuming 4 stick packs per run) but a real riot to drive around. Lack of power is not an issue with that truck, and the handling isn't too bad at all. It handles predictably, like a really big stadium truck, which is somewhat frightening.

The suspension design on that truck is of the conventional 4-link layout, with Savage shocks.

But back to the thread subject... a 6WD Jugg/TXT... I built the second truck (the red one) because it was a more challenging design- anyone can slap a few Clod axles together to build a 6WD, but making the passthrough axles is a bit harder.
Also with the 3-speed tranny it's got more of a scale factor going on.

In a tug of war, the Clod based 6WD (Tiamat) would most likely win against the Jugg/TXT (Mammoet) pretty much every time.
Tiamat just has too much of a power advantage with the three motors, and nearly bulletproof Clod drivetrain.

I have since resumed working on this TXT project. I'll have some pics soon.
- the tranny has been rebuilt, almost every plastic piece has been replaced with copies made from S7 or A2 tool steel.
- Suspension now has Savage dampers, minus springs.
- A few odds and ends, and most of the steering has been installed.

The only thing preventing me from running the truck atm is that i need to machine one more steering servo mounting for the last axle.

Thanks for reading!

[weeb_beano]

Some pics...

The truck is now driveable. What's left is a bunch of finishing tasks...
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress29.jpg

A closeup of the rear and mid axles
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress28.jpg

Super close-up
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress30.jpg

It handles really well for its first time out today... no outdoor pics yet because i was happy to just get it running. Being able to shift up/down gears really made it FUN. This truck to me really is a Bruiser-killer (having owned one in the past...) The big rig tranny is pretty much just as durable and much smoother shifts... not to mention that it can stand up to the brushless motor very well now.

[mavrick0]

Weeb awesome work as usual. Great to see this mutant is up and running around with Tiamat.

[weeb_beano]

Thanks Mavrick! It's good to hear from you again btw :)

[dave56bug]

Hey Weeb, long time no see, GREAT lookin truck!

Dave.

[weeb_beano]

Heyas Dave! Long time no see indeed! I've been hanging out mostly at my site (www.mtsquad.com) but try to check this thread every so often...

Some recent progress pictures... i added suspension limiting straps to the leaf springs... visible as that black nylon thing in between the dampers...
http://beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress40.jpg

http://beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress42.jpg

[dave56bug]

Does it flex well?

Dave.

[weeb_beano]

It does fairly well for a mutant... this is an older pic that i took (right before mounting the limiters) and shows how far the truck will flex in a natural position. It can go further but the rear axle needs to be held down (which is cheating) ...

http://beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/mammoet/mammoet_progress37.jpg

[Spoon37]

hmmm shes come along way since fluffy bunnynaut.......:D

what are those hub adapter things? are the wheel wideners or proper truck style hubs meaning that you need attach each wheel using like 10+ nuts?

;)

[dabait]

Weeb,

How hard was it to order the Aeromax cab plastics, and about how much did it run you? I'm building an Aeromax now, and I'm not real happy with the paint results :mad:

Also... are you going to build a super-articulated trailer? ;)

thanks

[weeb_beano]

Hehehe Spoon... long time no see :) What's new in the mutant world?

For those that don't know, this truck's previous incarnation was that of a 3-speed Juggernaut, shown here on Easter...

http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/bashes/31-mar-2002-05.jpg

The hubs are a set that i had machined for my other 6WD Tiamat (http://www.mtsquad.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=11)

They are a 12 bolt pattern... the reason i made them was because i was sick of my tires coming off. The center hub nut is a captured unit, and the spread of bolts limits things from being a single point of failure.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/tiamat/tiamat_progress41.jpg

I'm borrowing these for now from Tiamat while i machine a dozen more of these units. Tiamat closes in at 24 lbs, while Mammoet is nearly 19 lbs so they really need these units anyhow... Plus they widen the truck out by about 1 1/2" total. But adding some stiff foam inserts is the next step, once i figure out how to unglue the tires easily.

I do have a box trailer, but am sort of lazy about finishing it, and also just kind of not liking how it comes out all the time. It sits in a perpetual state of incomplete for now... This is an old pic of what scale it looks like, with Tiamat.
http://www.beanos.com/~tsoutij/images/gallery/tiamat/tiamat_progress31.jpg

But also, to answer your question dabait... i did things the easy way with the body- i ended up ordering entire kits... the body has so many parts its actually cost effective that way. Plus almost all of the components in the truck kit are usable to me in some form, such as the trannies, axles, and other running gear.

Thanks for reading!

[Spoon37]

Hey weeb!

yeah I havent seen u around for a while - glad to see your still making progress on this mutant juggy(mammoet? was it?). not many mutants happening here, but I have alot more trucks now......

I love them hubs - fantastic idea!I must admit that why I love the hombrew wideners on my clod, no single point of failure:
http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/20042293015944017793794.jpg

http://mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Feb/20042296568338640331401.jpg

they arent so pretty as yours but they work....and make it flippin wide...:D

;)

[cfjan]

Wow, it is amazing that the 3-speed tranny can actually handle the power of a brushless system..

It is an awesome custom project!!

[mongoose]

That thing is amazing double thumbs up from me . Well done.

[jocktheglide165]

pretty freaking cool man...