Schumacher Fusion forum

[DUUMDUDE]

Any body seen this car or seen it run? I hope its the truth because the price does'nt. At 359.99 w/ a.21 motor, 3 speed and RTR I would that anybody would be shook:confused: plus on top of that Schumacher says it should go 80mph, huh! somebody tell me how this can be true.

[ajd10000]

Well I have seen the fusion and what a quick car looks are just as good as the performance (better than in the photos). Look at sombody elses reason for the speed but I am concidoring selling up to get one. $350 to you end of august. :cool:

[RcLaB1]

does anybody else have any info on this car.....
i saw the ad on the new issue of Touring Car magazine.....

pro's and con's

opinions......

thanks

[pugton]

The fussion has been knocked back another month before it is released, It will have a top speed of 65 mph, you can buy 2 other speed option pinion sets which will give a speed of 45 mph or 85 mph depending on which one you fit.:)

[Shadgrind]

Originally posted by pugton
The fussion has been knocked back another month before it is released, It will have a top speed of 65 mph, you can buy 2 other speed option pinion sets which will give a speed of 45 mph or 85 mph depending on which one you fit.:)

Eh, what It has the same engine as teh XTR 3e (which I have) and the Big6 which I have both of these do 80mph plus and have 3 gears not 2. There are rumours that it will do 100mph (but I doubt it) Schumacher quote it at 85mph. It has 4WD and three gears as standard. Don't know where you got the 2 speed option from but I think you are way out there!!!

[pugton]

I didnt say it had a 2 speed, i said it has another 2 speed gear options, as in it still has 3 speed box but you can use the ratio,s to alter the speed, standard gearing as per kit top speed 65, next option <fastest> 85, and the slowest option 45, but it will come standard with the 65 mph ratio fitted. I also have had the xtr and big 6, more fun with the truck, It was me who gave B Willis the tips about drilling the chassis for the exhaust, and the proteck fuel tank and other things, And me and B willis have kept in touch with shumacer about this car, And it was them who told us about the gearing for the car when its released.

[Shadgrind]

Originally posted by pugton
I didnt say it had a 2 speed, i said it has another 2 speed gear options, as in it still has 3 speed box but you can use the ratio,s to alter the speed....

OK wasn't to clear from your post thats all, apols in that case. so then in theory , you colud change ratios on the XTR and Big 6 by using Fusion parts? Interesting ;)

[pugton]

I dont know you would probley have to find some ajustable engine mounts for the xtr, because i think the fussion still uses the xtr spur gears, its the plastic bud drive shafts in the fussion i would be worried about they are same ones they use on the mission elec car, and they dont last long on the front on the car.

[RcLaB1]

check out www.trilordy.com

click on movies and then click on "Toasty" icon

the Fusion is the white BMW running alongside
a 1/8 .21 onroad car.....

cool eh?

[fezzy]

Erm your wrong dude, the BMW isn't the Fusion its the "1/8 .21 On-Road Car" your talking about, its just a Fusion with a Lola Shell :rolleyes:

I hope to get a Fusion soon myself, i have seen a few run and they are great... VERY quick and VERY fast... Abit hard to control but you just gotta be gentle

[Skribble]

the Fusion is the white BMW running alongside He was saying the Fusions is next to the 1/8 On-Road. Only think that sucks about the 3-speed it's not adjustable .. :o It comes pre-adjusted too ..

[nuespeed]

There shouldbe a forum for this remakable car and not only a thread like the other one:o . So lets start alking about it...:D ;)

[RcLaB1]

i agree with you Nuespeed.....

check out the video of the Fusion running alongside
a 1/8 .21 onroad car......


www.trilordy.com

click on movies, then click on "Toasty" icon


cool eh?

let me know what you think

[nuespeed]

Cool I know i'm getting the fusion soon at a hobby shop about 50 minutes away from me:D

[SilentS!]

By the other thread i presume u mean mine on the rc-x forum any way had my fusion for about a month now its a fantastic car goes like a rocket and handles well to :D Blows all other touring cars away especially a drag race hehe ;)

[SilentS!]

had my fusion about a month now and it goes like a rocket and actually handles well. Been racing other tourers and it handles just aswell blows them away especially in a drag race

[fezzy]

SilentS, Do you use MSN?! Add me if so! ashtuk@hotmail.com

[DUMMIECHASER]

guys im looking on buying the schumer car which goes 80mph .i would like to know the website .would u please tell me it .thanx if u help me .bye byeok thank guyz

[SilentS!]

http://www.racing-cars.com

[ducati777]

I was so close to buying one, but I think Shumacher made a couple bad choices. First one was belt drive, but I can learn to live with that... The next bad choice was ball diffs!!!! Argh! I really don't understand ball diffs, they were cool in the 80's when I first saw them, but give me a planetary any day!

And now the 3 speed isn't adjustable?!?! If you run rc, you know things just go out of adjustment, thats the way it is. If you want the car to perform, it usually takes some setup every now and then. What if you want to use a different motor in that car? Yargh. Non adjustable eh?

Schumacher has come sooo close to a car that would get me back into touring cars, but I feel like they just missed the mark on this one.

[fezzy]

Ducati? Domatrix UK here comin' atcha! :D

I am getting a Fusion very soon, can't wait... Be my first nitro tourer and what a nitro tourer to start with eh?. Still, Can't wait to unleash it as i've already seen a few going and they are awesome cars. Looking at the belt setup and you will see it looks really durable, its quite well shielded from the elements, as for the ball diffs... The only thing i am scared about is those :(.

Non adjustable 3-Speed is no biggie, it works smashing out of the box and i can't see any other person sticking something else in where they'd have to adjust it to get optimum performance.

[chadinark]

second time this has happened with my schumacher fusion...

for some reason everything will be fine, running good, and then the next time i start it (after it runs out of fuel), the gears will be like locked up for some reason...

engine start and rev's good but car will not go forward.

last time this happened i just kept fiddling with it until finally it like snapped out of it and starting rolling normally again. anybody else have this problem? is it because i let it run out of fuel? any ideas?

thanks in advance
chad

[GregGilbert]

I got my Fusion Friday morning. It looks awesome! Im kinda bummed because I am now waiting on a steering servo, and it wont be here til probably Friday. I should get to run it next weekend.

BTW, this brings up a question...I have seen the previous posts about the fuel tubing (fuel in pipe issue), but what is the nipple on the top of the tank lid for? I have a line from the tank to the carb, tank to the pipe, and I have no idea what the 3rd one is for. Can someone offer any facts, please? Thanks, Greg

[fezzy]

Can't remember what its for, you don't use it though :D

Congrats on your purchase

[ducati777]

Hey Dom!

I wanted to reply yesterday but couldn't find a computer... Anyway I guess I could learn to live with the ball diffs and the belt drive, but the non adjustable tranny is really bumming me out.

Consider the 3 pinion gear options available. If you have experience with a 2-speed you'll know that changing the pinion gears, or even the spurs for that matter, REQUIRES a change in the shift point. If the car shifts well with the gears it comes with, it will shift too early with the tall gears, and too late if at all with the short gears.

Grrr... I've been playing around with tranny designs in my head and it doesn't seem difficult at all to make them adjustable. I have to check how schumacher built theirs, but adjustment is pretty much a requirement for a good tranny.

[GregGilbert]

Well, I replaced the rear upper suspension mount last week, and it has basically done nothing but rain here. Today, it was dry, so I got to run it for the second time...finally! Its pretty much broke-in now, so I replaced the glow plug, and focused on seeing exactly how well it handles...with an occassional straight-line blast. Im very impressed. It seems everyones thought on this is that with a .21, its gotta be uncontrollable, but thats not the case. I dont know how anyone could expect it to handle like an X-Acto knife in 3rd gear- I think thats asking a bit much of any car. It seems pretty predictable and solid to me. The only thing I have done is put pre-glued slicks on it, and went up one size on the rear shock spacers. Future adjustments will of course be made, but right now, I need to leave the car alone and improve ME! lol Its capabilities are far greater than mine.

Also, I just picked up the January "R/C Car" mag, and lo and behold, on page 90, there it is...It got a great review, but it says they still have to take the car to a dragstrip to test the claimed 80 MPH speed. Yee-Haw! Greg :D

[KyoGun]

my bro got one a few weeks ago and i've seen him run it, it's hella fast out of the box, fastest i've seen so far,(figures .21 engine) took me a few minutes to help him start the thing for break in, but it was a cinch after that. and boy is that engine loud, totally drowns out my car.

Oh, and my bro got it for 400 straight from the schumacher warehouse in florida. Though i know you can get it for 350 if you order from the ad in rc caracton mag.

I think i'm gonna get me one now too.

[KyoGun]

the car wasn't that hard to control, but then again i only got a chance to run the car that had the lower gearing, so supposed 65ish mph max. but didn't have enough room for it to hit into 3rd gear.

[Zugg Zugg1]

How can i get in touch with this Florida warehouse. I have been searching for information on how to reach them

[GregGilbert]

You can either go to www.racingcars.com and look for the vontact info, or you can just call (813) 889-9691. Chances are, you'll talk to Adrian. Give him your zip, and he will see if you have a distributor close by. If not, you can order right through him. Hes seemingly a straight-forward guy, and he's very familiar with the Fusion.

He was extremely helpful with alot of questions I had, and he recommended a tire/wheel combo for my particular running environment.

Good luck, and keep us posted. You will be amply satisfied, as the car is a total adrenaline trip!:D Also, the manual suggests 10% nitro, but I decided to go with 20%, with 18% synthetic. So far, it has been nothing but rock-solid, and very reliable...what more could you ask for? Oh yea, well theres always flat out knee-knockin speed...and yes, the Fusion will provide that as well. :p Regards, Greg

[Zugg Zugg1]

Greg,

I appreciate your help, imput, and such a quick response.

Jeff

[GregGilbert]

OOPS...I messed up on the link. Theres supposed to be a hyphen in there.

www.racing-cars.com

Sorry, Greg

[fezzy]

I will have my Fusion this coming Sunday!!! GUARENTEED!. Going to sell the Wheels/Tyres on the same day if anyone is interested before i put them on ebay, Should come with the 'gold' rims for the Subaru Impreza.

[GregGilbert]

You might want to save them just for speed runs. According to the magazine, it handles pretty well with them. In addition, the stock tires have no inserts so they actually "baloon" a little at speed. Basically, this would adjust the overall "gearing" for lack of better terms. Just a thought. I put mine on my Tamiya TL-01. -Greg

[fezzy]

I definetely want to sell them, anyone???? Stock Tyres on Gold Impreza Rims, brand new (duh)... £15, if i get no offers they'l be going on Ebay Sunday evening :D

[Zugg Zugg1]

Fezzy, I'll take em. Email me at jeffhough@msn.com

[Zugg Zugg1]

Extreme,

What is the tooth count on the high speed bell gears?

Zugg

[fezzy]

Sorry Zugg Zugg, I need to sell to someone in the UK really.. International postage is very complicated

[Zugg Zugg1]

Fezzy,

No problem. That's cool

[GregGilbert]

Zugg Zugg, the 80 MPH pinion bell , according to the manual, is 24-28-32.

BTW, due to the lack of "set-up sheets" for the Fusion, I have made a mediocre sheet with basically all adjustments possible, but with no illustrations. If anyone is interested, I can e-mail the file, and you can adjust it to your liking.

Today, I was supposed to meet up with a boat buddy of mine to show him the Fusion, but the first snow is falling as we speak. Projected accumulation: 1-4 inches. Buuuurrrrrrrrrrrrr. Sometimes I hate Ohio- well, from about October to April. :rolleyes: Good luck, Greg

[Zugg Zugg1]

Greg,

It would be great if you would email me the set-up sheet. jeffhough@msn.com. Thanks.

[GregGilbert]

There it is. Let me know of any changes I should make. :) Greg

[need4speed4]

[BTW, due to the lack of "set-up sheets" for the Fusion, I have made a mediocre sheet with basically all adjustments possible, but with no illustrations. If anyone is interested, I can e-mail the file, and you can adjust it to your liking.]

Hey Greg, can you PLEASE email the sheet? (CALfan414@yahoo.com)

[fezzy]

Well guys, you can add me into the Schumacher Fusion posse!, Picked mine up this afternoon as i said. Pretty pleased so far, the fit/finish and build quality are excellent (for an RTR), I almost fell over when i checked the gearmesh! It was perfect! GJ Schumacher! Manual is brilliant (compared to what i am used to with the OFNA Dominator manual).

Is there anything i should check for? I wont be running it till next Sunday so i wanna get things right, its my first tourer you see.... Some first tourer eh? :D

By the way, at todays Bash a Fusion was radar verified at 75mph and that was with the high acceleration (small) clutchbell!!!!!!!! I will post a pic to proove it later.

[fezzy]

I forgot to add, I seem to have a 'upgraded' tank, I noticed on my mates Fusion that there was no pressure nipple on the tank lid, mine has.... It also doesn't look as if its meant to be there but there is definetely a nipple sticking out of the lid. I geuss it must be the pressure nipple because there is a nipple with a strone filter on the top of the tank and then another un-explainable nipple not in use..... Not to mention the fact that the pressure nipple needs to be as high in the tank as possible to force the fuel round.

Anyone else have one on the tank lid and any idea why?

[GregGilbert]

Fezzy, congrats on your purchase. Yes, mine too has the nipple on top of the lid. I at first hooked the lines up as shown, and was wondering how the pipe could pressurize the tank with the nipple on top. Thats when I noticed that the port on the tank that looks like its supposed to go to the pipe was blocked off. The first time I ran it, the tank was not even pressurized.

I just got back from running mine. Its all broke-in now, and man, does it scream. Naturally, throttle response is alot better, and it ran just like it has the last couple times Ive ran it; flawless. Regards, Greg

*EDIT* Fezzy, exactly how do you check the gear mesh? Hopefully by the time the car needs some maintenance, Ill be a bit more knowledgeable.

[fezzy]

To check your mesh you grip your clutchbell tight and try and move the spurs left and right to see if there is any play, you should have just a little play.

Here is the pic i promised...
http://www.kab.freeuk.com/images/dscf0006.jpg
And how it ended up....
http://www.kab.freeuk.com/images/dscf0008.jpg

[need4speed4]

hey, were can I buy one of these in the US other than the florida warehouse, and extremercmotorsports???
Thanks

[fezzy]

You can get one from: http://www.rcmodels.com

I think they have the Prebuilt and RTR kits in

[higgy1541]

Does anyone know where I can get foams for the fusion in the UK?

[fezzy]

First time running the Fusion today giving it some welly, It is incredibly quick.. Handles quite well aslong as you keep the throttle finger under control, but its main quality is the fact that its very quick and very fast.

Because of todays weather though (Wet & Cold) Grip was always going to be a problem, With the stock Dragon tyres it was like ice-skating, My mate running some PitShimizu tyres on his Thunder Tiger TS4N Let me use those while he was running in his new toy, a Fusion! Surprise.. Anyway, the tyres are made for cold/wet conditions and they where SUPERB, Racing against another Fusion and a RS4-2 Both on Medial Pro's my Fusion easily had way more grip, all i needed to do was keep a good throttle thumb on the job. Unfortunately disaster came when my friend with the RS4-2 Proceeded to T-Bone into my Fusion, flipping it over once and then he carried on straight ahead, hit my Fusion another time and then made it flip another 3-4 Times, Didn't brake anything or so i thought other than some shell scratches but it seems that the top fin on one side of my head has bent down... I am pretty pee'd off with him now, He should of stopped.

It did run very well, i enjoyed running it on my own but with other people running 'racing' against each other as i was doing also it was terrifying knowing that everyone is going so fast with such fragile machines.... This is my first touring car and driving with other people knowing of its fragility is terrifying, I am not saying that the Fusion is not durable... as far as Touring Car terms go i geuss it is quite durable, As far as how durable toruing cars are it scares me.

[GregGilbert]

Fezzy...that sucks about bending the cooling fin, but its cool that ya finally got to run it!

For the past few weeks, any time I have off, it has been raining, freezing rain, or snowing. Finally today it was almost totally dry. I finally got to run it on a BIG parking lot...well, big enough to hold the trigger wide open for about 3 seconds after hitting third. Still havent seen it at utmost top-end, but its quick! And still in one piece! :)

It was pretty cool too, as a car pulled up beside me, and he said he seen me running mine. He was apparently looking for a place to run too. He had some kind of Nitro car (cant remember what it was) with a .12, 2-speed. It was quicker than I thought it would be! We had a blast for about 1/2 hour until the 37 degree temp with wind gusts up to 20-25 MPH took its toll on my freezing fingers. I had alot of fun, and met someone else in the hobby, too. I told him about this board, so maybe we'll see him on here sometime! Happy Holidays, Greg

[fezzy]

I think I only got mine into 2nd Yesterday, I know down the straights i was racing against the RS4-2 with Novarossi CX12P that was my demise later on, I was going down it about 1/2-3/4 throttle while he was going WOT, I went passed as easy as pie!! Scary really. I had some of my mates tyres on too, They where made for damp/wet conditions (which it was) SSSSSSSSOOOOOOOO much more grip it was UNBELIEVEABLE.. I had more grip than the other Fusion and the RS4-2 Put together, I really didn't want to go too fast though because i was still really running it in and getting used to the car, It is my first ever nitro tourer and my first time ever actually driving it above 1/4 throttle. Yet somehow it comes back bruised badly :(

[tl01boi]

where can i get this car the cheapest

[GregGilbert]

I am not sure where people are getting them, but I got mine right from the factory ($399, ARR). I have heard that someone is offering them for like $350, but Im not sure who.

If no one speaks up, go to thier website; www.racing-cars.com, look under contact info, and call them. If you cant find a mail order HS, Schumacher will check your zip code for a local place to get one. Worst case scenario, you can order it direct.

Hope this helps,
Greg

[jblaze725]

this car is crazy. that much speed for that price in a stock vehicle. it seems like it should be bull but apparently its true. i might have to start saving some pennies to try and picl one of those up. i havent even run my mtx2 prospec yet and im dying to get the fusion now.

[jblaze725]

ok whats up with the trilordy clip when those guys are just throwing their cars all over the place and just destroying them. no need for that at all. i dont understand it.

[GregGilbert]

I dont understand it either...I take better care of my Fusion than I do my real car! :)

Greg

[jblaze725]

youre not lyin i all ready cleaned my mugen and ive never even used it yet

[fezzy]

New Tyres... Pitshizumu D20 Treaded, for Wet/Damp/Cold Conditions, Very soft rubber and sticky.... Absolutely FANTASTIC tyre, get into 3rd everytime down the straight where as with some Medial Pro's i was struggling to get into 2nd.

[GregGilbert]

Fezzy, I admire you for your ability to run in the wet. Cold I can handle, but my Fusion will never get wet again. I literally spent hours with various cleaning agents, Q-Tips, rags, toothbrush, etc., and Im still amazed at how dirty they get.

I run on smooth blacktop, and although the pre-glued slicks are all I have ran, I love them. I have never ran it with the treaded "Dragons"...they reside on my sons TL-01. Although I dont rag on it hard, after well over a quart of fuel and a couple runs on rough asphalt, the little seam in the middle of the tread is still slightly visible, so they are wearing great.

I have been trying to learn the cars capabilities on an open parking lot, and I am finally getting to where I understand the car enough to start making a few adjustments. Basically all I have done to this point is turn in the grub screws on the A-arms for "suspension droop". On mine, if you hold the front tires down, and pull up on the chassis, there is a "dead area" towards the top where the suspension is out of "travel". I could be wrong, but my though is that when the chassis is "unloaded", theres an area of slop. I turned the two front screws in about 1 3/4 turns or so, and turned the rear ones in about 3/4 turns.

Anyway, id like to find a tire that wears good on concrete, but if you run on smooth blacktop, you might want to give Schumacher a call. Im not sure of the part numbers, but the tires have "CS22" on the side, and were ordered from Adrian. I dont much care for the plain looking white spoked rims, but with wheels/tires, Ill take performance over looks anyday. :)

Good Luck, and keep us posted...gotsta keep this thread alive!

Greg

[fezzy]

I don't run mine in really wet conditions, only really damp conditions... Never had much cleaning trouble and at the mo it looks new still! I baby my toys too much though :D.

I was out bashing yesterday, Running my Dominator trying to set my new 2-Speed up, meanwhile my mate was running his Fusion with the Pitshizumu's which he found out about, it was very wet, just stopped chucking it down with rain and the grip was awesome!. Those tyres come highly recommended.

[RcLaB1]

i heard its 350.00 usa dollars
some are selling the ARR for 399.00 usa dollars....

which is it.....thanks

[fezzy]

First run with the pitshizumu tyres wasn't very sucessful, grip was fantastic... maybe abit too much, rolled it once, scratched my head.... end of the first tank the tyres where barely still glued to the rims.. Looks like i'l have to use more glue this time.

[darmiejr]

Hi all. Darmie here.
I've been wanting to get into an on road car for the only purpose of owning one that is similar to my real car. I own a camaro SS 2001. I've been eyeing the RS4 3 RTR kit that comes with that body.

Looks like this Schumacher Fusion is the car to own though. Wondering, how well the HPI body would fit this car and if there would be any problems?

http://www.hpi-europe.com/graphics/bodies/med/7460.jpg

Thanks for all the earler post. It's been a joy to read....



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[fezzy]

The head is very tall, worse case scenario is that you have to cut a hole out just above the head. Depends on the shape of the shell though, other than that you should have no problems.

My mate runs a HPI 911 GT2 Shell on his Fusion and it fits pretty nice, head and all..

[birdy233]

I bought a Nitro Fusion and own several other Schumacher cars. After reading several articles on the Fusion in Car Action and Nitro magazine which say "with the optional included" gearset...I bought the car assuming the gearset was included as the magazines stated. Not the case! You have to buy the gearset for $30 plus shipping to get your car to the claimed 80 mph. The purpose of this car is to go fast, that's it. The box even says 80 mph. When I called Schumacher, they said I was the first one to complain about this. Sell it with the right gearing!!!! If I wanted a car to do 60 I would have bought a 4-Tec and saved $200. Anyone else feel the same?? What's your thoughts??

[darmiejr]

thanks fezzy for the info. Well, I'm wrapping up my pennies and counting my change now!

[gfusion]

here's my fusion......

lets all of us post our pics of the fusion on the run....stiil pictures.....engines....tires......etc...

common people we can make this thread more exciting....

i broke my upper suspension mount recently...luckily i had a spare one...phew!

[gfusion]

hey fezzy....

man...75mph is fast enough!! hehe!

just wanted to ask which tires are good for dry and i need a good tire as my stock tires supplied with the car is not good enough, the car skids too much..i need grip so i can feel confident with my car at high speeds..

as i live in the uk...in london...what tires would you recommend me to buy for the wet and dry???

note: i would prefer to get the tires from uk not the states or outside uk as i need the tires quickly (i'm so impatient when i have to wait for an international delivery that takes 2 weeks!)

thanks....anyone can help me....

[gfusion]

here's the side.....

post pics please......lets make it interesting..:D

[GregGilbert]

Heres one with the Saleen body...

[GregGilbert]

And one of the Fusion beside an HPI RS4...

[darmiejr]

Good pic GregGilbert. Looks like that HPI camaro body will fit nice on this car Have you tried it? It was mention that the schumacher engine head may stick up out of the body but hey, if thats what it takes for more power and speed, so be it.:D :D

I'm still saving some pennies for the purchase.

[GregGilbert]

Darmie...not that I have any use for it (LOL), the RS4 had a TA body on it when I got it. Im assuming its the same, to scale, as a Camaro (length, etc.). You might have to cut a hole for the head, but from holding the TA body up to the Fusion, the wheelwells match up perfectly with the shortest of three wheelbase possibilities.

I put the TA body on the Fusion, and it ran 10 MPH slower, then quit running all together. Just kiddin', man :) Just a joke. No really, the TA and Camaro bodies are both cool lookin bodies. The spoiler on the TA is pretty cool too.

Greg

[gfusion]

HEY GREG,
nice bodyshells.....
i'm thinking of getting another shell as mine looks too boring...
so hows your car going?
i'm going to get some pictures of my car in action but will have to wait as i've ordered spur gears as i've chipped mine today)
bummer!
:mad:

[GregGilbert]

I have not ran the Fusion for awhile. Weve been pelted with snow, rain, or freezing rain for quite some time. The streets are starting to dry up, but all the parking lots are white from the salt trucks. Ive been running the RS4, as I dont care if it gets dirty, and its a bit more convenient as I can start it right here on the table, carry it outside, and run it right in the street in front of my house. The good thing is im close enough to go inside when my hands and fingers get numb. Its a bit rough to run the Fusion on is the only bad thing.

Im thinking about ordering the alloy diff mounts and steel driveshafts for mine. By the time I get them on, the weather will be a bit more forgiving. :D

BTW, thanks for the compliment! I plan to get the Saleen Mustang body next.

Greg

Heres one of all three...

[fezzy]

Hi everyone, I haven't posted here in a while.. Always seems to slip my mind to check :D.

My Fusion has begun to get me worried, In the club I am in everyone has 1/10 Smallblock sedans, ALOT more contrOllable... and i want a slice of that!!! I geuss i'll have to see how i go on.

Here is a vid of a bash we had today, its not a big vid and as you will notice completely no grip and someone who doesn't know how to drive a fusion, the black audi tt is a hpi nitro rs4-2 with 2-speed and hpi 15fe!! It actually won the race, just goes to show i geuss.

http://www.kab.freeuk.com/images/SiCully.AVI

[GregGilbert]

LOL....Damn, Fezzy. Looks a little out of control. Mine dont take off that fast, and Im kinda wonderin why, because Ive been wanting to lean it out some, but yours is already smokin' a little more than mine. Mine does seem to handle better...in first gear anyway. I seriously think I can learn to drive it and be more competitive in the handling department than alot of people would think it would, but again...its not really a "race" car. I had parking lot bashing in mind when I got it. Kinda cool havin the RS4, as thats what I will use to run against other cars.

Dont get rid of it, Fezzy! Id be lost without mine!

Good to hear from ya!

Greg

[fezzy]

Fraid i'm going to have to sell the Fusion i'm afraid, Its too fast for the 'close' racing that we do at the parking lot.

If anyone is interested the car is like new, less than 1/2 gallon of bluethunder 20% has been run through, comes with futaba radio with standard servos and a 12v drill for starting. £300 ONO

ashtuk@blueyonder.co.uk

[fezzy]

Oh well guys, Its gone... :(, My mate offered me to trade it for his brand new (Run Once) HPI RS43 SS, Novarossi CX12P, Hotbodies Aluminium Knuckles, Carriers, Uprights, Suspension Arms, Front Universals, Suspension Arms and Centre Gear Carrier.

I wish you guys the best of luck with your Fusions! They are certainly a blast, But for me it wasn't meant to be... Mine was too quick for parking lot races and too fast if it run off.... I couldn't of afforded the repair bill, I also can't afford the tyres that it goes through and the hassle of keeping them to the rims!!.

[GregGilbert]

Well Fezzy...I hate like hell to see ya get rid of it, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do, I guess. Im wanting to get another Fusion for a back-up, but I had to take all my funds to get a real car! LOL My "new" Probe GT has a perfect place in the back for field box, cars, fuel, etc. :)

Good luck with your RS4 SS...sounds like a good one! Dont be a stranger to the Fusion threads, as I have enjoyed your input! Take it easy, dude...

Greg

[fezzy]

Cheers, I wont wonder too far :D

[thefuzzclub]

Hello Fusion Racers,
I'm an NTC3 racer and just drop by here in your thread to ask how do you find driving your Fusion? I know its scary fast! But is it controllable like at full throttle? Can you keep a long straight without the car tweaking? I plan to buy a Fusion to bash it in big parking lots. I know the car is something to brag about. Looking forward to your inputs.

[GregGilbert]

Providing you get the car to hook up, it will track straight. Controllable at full throttle...heeheehee. I dont think so. I know its starting to sound like a broken record, but theres no way one could expect the Fusion to handle on "the perverbial rails" at 80 MPH, or even 55 or 60 MPH. Mine handles great in first gear, but beyond that, its pretty much a "point and shoot" type thing, which by the way is the intent of the Fusion, as far as I know anyway.

Taking that into consideration, I would say that the Fusion actually handles better than what alot of people would expect. But expecting it to be predictable at 50 or 60 MPH is expecting a little too much. Just respect the car, and dont get too confident too quick.

I will also say that now that I have been exposed to more and more touring type cars, I am all that much more impressed with the Fusion. Very very minimal play in the front wheels, and absolutely none in the rear. Its nice, tight, and solid. Although skeptical at first, I am now sold on the EZ start system too...it starts very easily with a 9.6V drill, and stays very well in tune. I have also had no problem with fuel foaming or anything else. Fill it up, insert the drill, plug the exhaust while ya crank it until you see the fuel go into the carb, and turn it over for another second or so, hook up the ignitor, and your off.

Its my first nitro car, and in fact my first car! LOL Im totally impressed with its ease of operation, and from what I have seen, the car is a work horse. Im also now a firm believer in Thunder Tiger reliability. I almost feel guilty, or feel like I am not pushing it, as its still in one piece, but I simply have respect for it. Point blank, it hauls major ass, but the car needs respect.

Id also like to say that I know alot of people were wondering about the big fat, wide drive belt...I have had not the first problem with rocks or debris in the belt, but did get a small rock lodged in the front suspension that kept it from turning right. That of course has nothing to do with it being a Fusion, and could happen with any car.

If its flat out haulin' ass that your after, you will not be let down.

Sorry for the long post, but while its 5 degrees with a wind chill of -8*, all I can do is talk about it. :(

Greg

[thefuzzclub]

GregGilbert,
Thanks for the info. I will mark your word and try the fusion. Do you know where I can get it at the cheapest price?

[thefuzzclub]

GregGilbert,
Does it have an adjustment for its 3 speed tranny where you can adust how soon or how late is the shifting?

[GregGilbert]

Negatory. Its not adjustable.

Greg

[oN_dUbZ]

hey guys...i saw some of the videos u guys posted, this car looks SWEET and crazy fast. For me I'm like a first time buyer to Nitro so would this car be good for me. Mostly gonna use it for bashing and stuff around the neighborhood. If I get the RTR kit, what else do I need to buy?

[GregGilbert]

Depends on if you get the RTR or ARR. I got the ARR, and needed...

-radio
-2 servos
-receiver
-cordless drill
-fuel
-glow plug ignitor

and OPTIONAL...get some tires with inserts as the stock Schumacher Dragons have none.

With the RTR, you can omit the servos, receiver, and radio.

Again, the Fusion was my first car, and Im having great luck with it! :)

Greg

[oN_dUbZ]

thanx greg....i think im gonna go with this car to for my FIRST nitro car ever. Hey...can u guys post some pics of where the Drill thing goes to turn on the car for some visual aids....ALSO where can i get one for a cheaper price than 400ARR and 500RTR....i heard some cheaper prices??

[GregGilbert]

Im late for work, but will try and post one when I get home. I should be back here in about 5 hours or so.

Later...
Greg

[oN_dUbZ]

aight greg no prob...hey do u have aim/aol or MSN mesenger or any other messengers...maybe we can and/or all of us have a lil LIVE discussion for our cars and stuff

ALSO...since this was ur first car greg...how hard was it to assemble??

[GregGilbert]

Well, I just installed AIM last week, and never opened the confirmation e-mail til it was too late. It said I had to re-register, but I have not done it yet.

Unfortunately, the Fusion comes already built, and is not available as a kit. Id like to have put it together so I could learn how to take it apart.

In the first pic, you can see the "EZ" start thing (shiny washer with allen type bolt) just above the blue exhaust coupler. It basically acts as an extension of the crankshaft. In the second pic, with the body on, the hex driver thing is sticking out of the body...the end would of course be chucked in your drill.

Hope this helps,
Greg

[GregGilbert]

Pic #2...

[fezzy]

I wouldn't really recommend the Fusion as a first Nitro Car, I've had 4 previous trucks before I got the Fusion, It was my first Nitro Touring Car, And it was just too fast to drive confidentlyy, I'd recommend something alot easier going like a HPI RS4-3.

But, Its your repair bill

[oN_dUbZ]

hey guys...ive decided to join the Fusion Posse and im going to order a Schumacher Fusion Car. I think i'm really gonna get a bang for my buck for this car. Even though most nitro cars are like .12 and .15 which go 40MPH+ and then hop them up for about 200-300 dollarz to get up to the Fusion standards, but anyways i dont want to start a touring car war here. Anyways this is gonna be my first car so HOW HARD and DIFFICULT is it to assemble this kit?? I wanted to get RTR because this will be my first car but I found a great deal online: ARR with Airtronics MX-3 Radio system, Fuel Bottle, Glow Igniter, and batteries:

heres a link if some of you want a good deal:

http://www.harcohobbies.com/cars/schumacher_fusion.aspx

oh yeah, Greg, if u turn on aim, whats ur SN, we all can start chatting up on our cars

[oN_dUbZ]

oh yeah....i read in RCCA February issue, that if u buy the ARR version the chassis comes fully made and done and all u do is install ur radio equip? is that tru?

[gfusion]

oN_dUbZ:::

it is true...all you have to do is install you radio kits and you're ready to go...i've got a fusion and its an awesome car...just take it easy when you first get it, learn the car's limits as its so easy to get MPH's outta this car....this car needs respect man..as greg gillberg said.

[oN_dUbZ]

ok thanx gfusion, i think ill go with this car then. Ill just buy the MX-3 Radio system for betta performance for the raw power. My first car is gonna be wicked fast i guess. Also, you guys recommend any fuel and tires?? Also what other tools and acessories should i get, heres my list so far:

Schamacher Fusion SST:
Airtronics MX-3 Radio System
Fuel(recommended type)
Glow Plug Igniter
Fuel Bottle
Glwo Plug Wrench
Nitro After Cleaners and Oils
Battery Pack(Recommend any?)

I already have a Cordless Drill.

Anything else???

[gfusion]

its best to get rechargeble batteries as the normal ones (like duracell) wont last.....there are some pretty good rechargeble batteries rated 2000mA...this means that they will last longer in run time..(eg: normal battery 1-2hrs good rechargeble batteries 3-5hrs.)

the fusion comes with stock tires...they are good to start with, but if you want to race then those are not the right tires. you will need to get proper tires. (the stock tires come with no foam inserts!)
by the way you've got a good starting gear.

go ahead and get the car...it kick-a$$ man!!!!!:D :cool:

[rc man37689]

where can i get the fusion prebuilt for the lowest price

[GregGilbert]

RC man...I dunno where other people got theirs. I got mine right from Schumacher.

Dubz...As for fuel, I run Wildcat Quickfire (20% nitro, 18% synthetic blend oil). This is just personal preference, but I also got an OS A-3 plug to break the engine in with, and also an OS A-5 to run in ot after its broke in. Im still on the OS A-3, and have not yet needed the A-5.

As for batteries, I have had excellent luck with Hydrimax (Sony cells) battery packs. I run 4.8v, 1450 mAh in the Fusion, but plan to put that pack in my RS4, and get a 1650 mAh pack for the Fusion.

Also, if you look back in the previous posts on this thread, I posted a pic of how I have my charging jack set up. I used a Dremel tool to cut a hole in the top of the black plastic box, and epoxied the jack in place. I keep it covered with a piece of tape while running (to keep dirt out). Its also handy to plug a voltmeter in to it to keep a watch on battery voltage, as a runaway Fusion could ruin your entire day. LOL

As for tires, I myself recommend you go to www.racing-cars.com, and get thier phone number. Call and talk to Adrian, and tell him what you run on (asphalt, concrete, etc.). He will suggest something, and he helped me out big time.

Also, I dont believe in running anything without a fuel filter. If you wanna see how I have mine set up, I could e-mail you a few pics or something.

Good luck...
Greg

Oh......and Dubz- I re-registered with AIM. My screen name is gregsprobegt. See Ya!

[darmiejr]

Originally posted by rc man37689
where can i get the fusion prebuilt for the lowest price

Hey, I'm the new guy but I even remember reading on page 4 about a good price.

posted by oN_dUbZ

heres a link if some of you want a good deal:

http://www.harcohobbies.com/cars/schumacher_fusion.aspx

oh yeah, Greg, if u turn


Then you can always check out

http://www.extremercmotorsports.com/Schumacher.htm

[RcLaB1]

will this fit, i saw someone on the net with it....
i figure, it would somewhat lower the ratio for
more speed......??????

since handling isn't a issue here.........

will there be any clearance problems?

thanks

[RcLaB1]

just ordered the Fusion and its on its way to my home.....

i bought a drill, will a 7.2 volt drill suffice?

thanks

[GregGilbert]

RClab...not sure about the 7.2v drill. It might work well after the engine is broke in, then again, you might be OK to begin with. I use a 9.6v Craftsman drill, and have no trouble with it at all.

Darmie...Whatcha mean "if I turn"? LOL

Greg

[darmiejr]

Originally posted by GregGilbert



Darmie...Whatcha mean "if I turn"? LOL

Greg
Sorry bout that Greg. My HTML is not up to par. that was a quote on page 4 from oN_dUbZ in ref the link of where the deals are on the fusion..

[fusionmissile]

:D This is my Fusion with a Honda civic coupe shell

[fusionmissile]

And Another

[fusionmissile]

And another

[oN_dUbZ]

aight thanx for the info all...just a couple more questions that i have, Can u fit Pro-line and HPI bodies on the Fusion, because I like some of the HPI bodies and if they do are there some special things that i need to do to them to fit or not??

Secondly I have found some HYDRIMAX batteries at Towerhobbies... here are the links:

http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0093p?&C=MFA
and
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0093p?&C=MFB
also i found this Airtronics brand battery:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXLX81&P=0

Also the last thing i wanted to know is will i need any of these items for my start-up of nitro touring stuff:

Body Reamer
Lexan Scissors
Body Knife
File Set
Screwdrivers
Hex drivers
Pliers/Cutters

will i need any of those and if there any other tools u guys have and recommend that i should buy...just suggest them

[GregGilbert]

Providing you get a body thet is 200mm wide, pretty much the worst that can happen is the front or rear wheel wells not perfectly lining up lengthwise. I have a Pro-Line GT-40 body and a HPI Saleen S7R body, and they fit beautifully.

As for the batt. pack, id go with 1650-2000 mAh, but thats just my preference. I also prefer NiMH over NiCads, as they dont need to be "cycled" all the time.

For tools, basic tools would be a plus, but the Fusion comes with a couple allen wrenches and a funky lookin carbon fiber type wrench.

For things like a body reamer, I just position the body where it should go, and put a little dot on all four posts with a Sharpie marker, start the hole with an X-Acto knife, then a 1/8" drill bit. then use a cone shaped stone in the Dremel tool. Sounds like a hassle, but it works for me. Body scissors would be a worthwhile investment, though. As far as the rest goes, Id spend that money on a decent radio or a good charger or something, but again, thats my opinion.

Good Luck,
Greg

[oN_dUbZ]

thanx greg..i think ill go with a regular Reamer for now since im new to the scene and get creative later. Oh yeah, for the batteries what type can i fit in the car? FLAT round Square and how many cells, like 4 5 or 6??
I have a decent radio coming with my car too greg, the Airtronics MX-3

this is my car so far:

Schamacher Fusion SST:
Airtronics MX-3 Radio System
Fuel
Glow Plug Igniter
Fuel Bottle
Glow Plug Wrench
Nitro After Cleaners and Oils
Reamer
Lexan Scissors
Hobby Knife
NiMH Battery Pack(1600-200mAh+charger)

If i buy another body(ies) i am considering the following:
HPI/Proline bodies.
X-Acto Knife
X-Acto File Set
Pactra and Faskolor Paint
Maybe a Airbrush if i can find under $40

[GregGilbert]

Man...too many sites in not enough time. I dunno if im talkin about r/c cars, r/c boats, Ford Probes, or what! LOL

Anyway, only a 4 cell pack will fit in the tight radio box, and of the "U" shaped variety (two stacked on top of two). Again, the space is very limited. I am a FIRM believer in padding the electronics in ANYTHING r/c related, til it cant be padded anymore. I went to Home Depot and got a roll of foam insulation for storm doors. It is 3/4" wide, and about 1/2" thick, with an adhesive backing...18' to 20' roll for a few bucks. With razor blade in hand, I trimmed pieces of the soft foam rubber to fill every gap possible, while still leaving room for wires. The Rx and battery pack is cushioned on 5 of 6 sides. By the time you hack up a few pieces before getting it right, you might use a foot of the foam rubber. Pack them babies in foam, and carefully insert the 5 screws, making sure not to pinch a wire. Sounds funny probably, but I have big hands/fingers, and this all seemed pretty tedious. I also have somewhat of a temper...with that combined, I wanted to throw my Fusion against the wall once or twice, but I maintained. (J/K)

Anyway, I have been ramblin' my ass off lately, and I apologize. I simply refuse to reply to any more threads until I wipe the dust from my dormant and hibernating Fusion. Im simply not worthy...Im not worthy...Party on. :p I envy any of you who have seen temps above 30*F in the past week and a half! I love Ohio...It just sucks from about September to May. LOL

Greg

[GregGilbert]

OK...I lied. One more.

-Greg

[fezzy]

Here are some pics of my RS4-3 SS.

http://www.geocities.com/aqwdre2000/ss.txt
http://www.geocities.com/aqwdre2000/ss2.txt
http://www.geocities.com/aqwdre2000/ss3.txt

Ran it first time today, not as fast as my Fusion but it went round corners!! Wasn't slow, Pretty quick considering the shift point needs adjusting to get into 2nd, So far so good though! Never spun out once.

Love the Civic Shell on the Fusion there fusionmissle.

[GregGilbert]

Looks pretty cool (both of ya!)! Good luck with it, Fezzy. I hope it treats ya well. :)

Greg

[RcLaB1]

hello, just got my fusion and am wondering......

if your looking at the e-start system behind the motor,
what direction should it spin to start the motor
(clockwise, counterclockwise?)


thanks

[GregGilbert]

RcLab...When in doubt, read the instructions! LOL j/k I know it says in there somewhere, but its clockwise.

What body did ya get? If ya can, post a few pics in the Fusion pics thread! :)

Greg

[RcLaB1]

i got the one with the BMW body, its ok, but
i may get a LOLA body just for Looks......

I"m having a problem with my carb settings....
i haven't started the car yet but my question is.....
when i have it full throttle, is the Carb suppose
to be opened all the way?
and how much is it suppose to be closed when
its idling?

thanks

[RcLaB1]

also, as i was looking at the pictures of Fusion's in this forum,
my fuel tanks flip top is closer to the motor heatsink,
the other Fusion's have there flip top fuel tank away from
the heatsink on th motor......

do i have a older/newer model?

thanks

[RcLaB1]

anyone know the answer to my two questions up above?

thanks

much appreciated......

[b willis]

you have the latest model the tank is the same one as fitted to the thunder tiger ts4n. much better tank looks better and no more foaming like the old one. cheers

[RcLaB1]

hello, does anyone know a Link where i can
watch movies of the Fusion,
i've all ready since the Trilordy.com video....

thanks

[GregGilbert]

I remember seeing another one awhile back, but I cant remeber the URL. It was just a Fusion on a residential street. He had it up to like low 60's before he hit a parked car.

Maybe someone here will remember where to find it.

Greg

[gfusion]

i posted a new thread for you all about a problem with the fusion engine.....to see it, go to the nitro forum.

hope you all are having fun with your cars!

[GregGilbert]

Although theres still mounds of snow everywhere left from the snow plows, it was in the low 60's today! I checked out a few places to run, but all the parking lots were wet. Finally found a dry one, but it was rather small...better than nothing.

I ran the TL-01 and the RS4 with my sons, then broke out the Fusion. A5 glow plug, 20% nitro, and finally leaned out! It was pretty fast off the line before, but is ballistic now! The times I have ran it before, it was running between 115-125 degrees (in cold weather), and today had it between 150-155 degrees. I knew there was more there, but I wanted to make sure it was broke in good before I leaned it out. Even though It only seen the lower realm of second gear, it was a hoot!

What a blast! Got some good footage with the camcorder, enjoyed the warm weather, and everything went home in one piece! What more could ya ask for? :D

Greg

[nitrohead3000]

Hey, Greg! Glad you got out to run yesterday! The fusion is a very fast car I have one too I live down in Indy . I have been wondering if I could not get more speed out of my fusion if I put a cvec pipe for a 21 size engine on it. I was just wondering if you heard tell of anyone doing that and if the results were positive or negative?

[nitrohead3000]

Hey, Greg! Glad you got out to run yesterday! The fusion is a very fast car I have one too I live down in Indy . I have been wondering if I could not get more speed out of my fusion if I put a cvec pipe for a 21 size engine on it. I was just wondering if you heard tell of anyone doing that and if the results were positive or negative?

[GregGilbert]

Dunno about the pipe, as I know nothing about cars...I just wanted something to do while the waters frozen. No really, someone posted something about a different tuned pipe for the Fusion in another post awhile back. Perhaps a search could yield something. I also remember that it is within the first couple pages of the thread (it is not in this thread).

RCLAB...whats up with that Fusion? Is it still in one piece? LOL

BTW...the extended forecast; 60's again this weekend, and dry! Might just be able to hit my favorite BIG parking lot! :D

Greg

[fezzy]

Hi Guys, I am selling my mates Fusion for him.... Any Brits interested, Heres the thread....

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118780

[spenzalii]

Oh, decisions! I finally found a good deal on a Fusion (ARR and MX3 FM Radio for 475) and I had my hopes set on a GTP. Now I can't decide. I probably won't go for the 80+ clutch set (nowhere to do it, don't have the guts), but it's either 1 speed or three out of the box. Is there any need for modifications on the rear to run 30mm foam tires? I may as well try to get the thing to stick a bit better if I chose it

[Volumex]

Ordered my Fusion this evening. Should arrive in few days from Florida. Got the Airtronics FM radio as well. That thing seems like it can reach out of radio range quickly, better not to save on the radio gear.
I'll post impressions as soon as I run it.
Thanks for everybody's feedback in this forum. It's actually what made me decide to purchase one.
Later.

[GregGilbert]

Congrats, Volumex...You'll love it. What body are you getting with it? I got the F-150 body, but have never ran it with that body. I also got a Ford GT-40 body for it, but still, the only body I have ran on it is the Saleen S7-R. I might get to run my Fusion this Sunday for awhile. Im also trying to get permission to run it at work either on a runway or at least the hangar parking lot. Either way, I will soon have the radar gun on it! Im anxious to see what it actually does. I still have yet to have it wide open through the range of third gear.

Spenzali, Im not sure about the tires, but would be interested in finding out if they would work. I also have yet to run mine on the factory Schuey Dragons, but probably should, just to compare them to the pre-glued slicks currently on it.

Good luck, and have a blast!

Greg

[nitrohead3000]

Originally posted by spenzalii
Oh, decisions! I finally found a good deal on a Fusion (ARR and MX3 FM Radio for 475) and I had my hopes set on a GTP. Now I can't decide. I probably won't go for the 80+ clutch set (nowhere to do it, don't have the guts), but it's either 1 speed or three out of the box. Is there any need for modifications on the rear to run 30mm foam tires? I may as well try to get the thing to stick a bit better if I chose it spenzalii you can mount 30mm tires on your fusion it depends on which brand you use and what the offset of the rim is. If the tire rubs against the rear hub carrier arm you can use a dremel with a sanding drum to remove material from the hub carrier arm so it does not rub. You can also put small thin steel washer in front of the wheel hex to space it out from the hub carrier arm.
.

[Volumex]

To be more precise, has anybody run 30mm in the rear, perhaps with more wheel offset, let's say 2mm?
I'm thinking at one of those:
http://www.jacoracing.com/new.html

Thanks GregGilbert, I've ordered a BMW kit, howewer car will probably end up with an HPI or Protoform "tall" body, so to keep the cooling head within the roof.

[nitrohead3000]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Volumex
[B]To be more precise, has anybody run 30mm in the rear, perhaps with more wheel offset, let's say 2mm?
I'm thinking at one of those:
http://www.jacoracing.com/new.html

that should work if the hex size of the serpent tire,rim fits over the hex that the fusion uses. With the 2mm ofset the tire may stick out some from the body especially if you are using a sedan. I am using a lola style body my rear tires are 35mm wide

[Volumex]

Nitrohead3k,
Can you pls post a picture of your setup with the Lola body and the 35mm tyres?
Tnx.

[nitrohead3000]

Originally posted by Volumex
Nitrohead3k,
Can you pls post a picture of your setup with the Lola body and the 35mm tyres?
Tnx. Yes I will just as soon as I get a digital camera!I want to show fusion owners how you can use the wider foam tires on their fusion. This can be another option that a person can use so they can get their car hooked up. In general you get more traction out of foam tires than rubber but foam tires wear faster than rubber and foam tires lose their traction advantage when the temperature drops below 40 degrees.

[spenzalii]

Great. That will make my choice between teh two cars in teh runing a lot easier.

[mochunk]

Howdy fellow Fusion owners.

This is my first gas car. And man is it fun. I've only had it about a month now, and it's been cold and still snowy up until last week in the Midwest here. But I had a few days to finally get it dialed in, leaned out, and haulin' ass.

And of course, on the second day, she hopped, then rolled and tumbled all over at about 60mph. So now it's down ;)

I'm new around these forums, and I must admit, I really dislike the linear setup of a single base for one car, but I guess I can manage. I hope I can contribute and learn greatly on this Fusion section here.

I soon will have a large selection, if limited and one time, of commonly broken parts and addon goodies (like the high speed clutch bell!) if anyone needs them. I needed parts to fix mine, and had a chance to bulk up cheap so I couldn't resist. My brother also has this car and could benefit from it as well.

But that brings me to my first question. What have you broken or seen fail on this vehicle so far? Myself, I broke a lower control arm, and the upper camber turnbuckle. My brother has seemingly already smoked the starter one way bearing, which I understand can be common in nitro motors with this type of setup (with a pull or turn type start, other than a flywheel bump start). But like I said, it's both of our first nitro cars, so we're learning as we go.

I feel I caught on quickly, and within 8 tanks or so, had it broken in, and leaned out nicely so it hauls major butt. But then again, I was a 10 year auto tech, who also worked on carburated motorcycles for years. So it's not exactly a new concept, just different kinda of adjusters :)

I hope I haven't been too long winded and boring. I look forward to talking shop with everyone about this insane little car.

Have a look at some pics that show the damage, and dirtyness after a couple of tanks through a rough parking lot.

http://mochunk.net/rccars/gfx/fusion/

My real nick, has been for 13 years, is Troll. But apparently was taken.

Troll

[mochunk]

Originally posted by gfusion
i posted a new thread for you all about a problem with the fusion engine.....to see it, go to the nitro forum.

hope you all are having fun with your cars!

I must say, I looked through the forum. And couldn't find it. Would you care to elaborate or link to the post? Thanks.

Troll

[mochunk]

Apparently this thread is barren?

Hmmph.

Well I can try anyways.

Anyone ever seen a belt shred on these? Am I the only one?

I have yet to take it apart, and check it out. But the belt started shredding and the long thread got caught up in everything, and the car wouldn't move. Got it all out, cut it off but the drivetrain is still stiff as can be. And the clutch seems fine. It's something caught in the belt or something. I bet I just got a rock in there or something, but man, what a bummer. That thing is not easy to get at. I have a ton of parts coming for this car, but no belt of course. Now I need to find one.

Troll

[Volumex]

I received the car yesterday, from a mailorder shop.
Seems well put together and the qulity of the parts good.
I think I'll be able to run the car in couple of weeks.
So far I like what I see.

[GregGilbert]

Nope...its not barren. Some of us are just apparently busy. I actually meant to respond awhile back, but just forgot.

The only part on mine that has been broken was the rear upper suspension mount, from a buddy of mine sliding it sideways into a curb.

I have also never seen a belt shred. It could have been a rock I guess, but Ive never have a problem with mine.

From your pics, it looks like you run it on decent tires. Are those the pre-glued slicks? Have you ever ran it with the stock tires? If so, how do you compare them with the tires you have on it now?

Thanks,
Greg

[mochunk]

Originally posted by GregGilbert
Nope...its not barren. Some of us are just apparently busy. I actually meant to respond awhile back, but just forgot.

The only part on mine that has been broken was the rear upper suspension mount, from a buddy of mine sliding it sideways into a curb.

I have also never seen a belt shred. It could have been a rock I guess, but Ive never have a problem with mine.

From your pics, it looks like you run it on decent tires. Are those the pre-glued slicks? Have you ever ran it with the stock tires? If so, how do you compare them with the tires you have on it now?

Thanks,
Greg

Well, I only ran it on the stock slicks while breaking it in, so not even out of second gear, but at that time, I could tell it wasn't going to hook for crap. Maybe I'm just too used to my electric car, but tires without inserts just doesn't sit right with me.

I got the set of preglued foams you see in the pics, shortly after, and put those on before I took it out and opened it up. They are Yokomo 26mm firms. Not bad, but if you noticed, I took some chunks out of the rears. So I was at another shop the other day, and grabbed some 'Nitro Shoes' Decent looking preglued foamies, and they had a pair of 32mm 2degree offset rears, so I grabbed those, and a set 26mm's for the front. They are considerably softer but worked well. Great off the line traction, and was able to take normal street corners in 2nd or so, but then again, that was the first time I was running with a body, so I don't know if I was actually getting any downforce on it or not. But like was said, three tanks later and I had a trashed belt. So maybe sometime this week I can get it apart and see what the deal is.

Lately, I'm constantly messing with one car or another, so time to work on it is hard, especially such a project that would go beyond my normal workday (which is actually when I do most of my rc work, shhh!) But it's getting to stay nice out lately, and the urge to drive it grows stronger. I'll keep everyone posted on it as it comes along.

I don't even think theres a comparison between the kit tires, and some good foams. But then again, I only run on dirty rough concrete for the fun of it. And foams are a good all around choice.

Troll

[gfusion]

Mochunk - here is the link to the thread that you wanted to view...sorry i replied late as i just managed to sort out my computer, it has been acting strangely that it keeps disconnecting me from the internet.

here's the link: (you will have to copy and paste it onto the internt web address bar)

http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=117051

by the way i 've been playing with the fusion lately, the weather was fabulous, was enjoyable to see the car in action.
it all ended badly, due to my own error, the car was at high speed(probably around 50mph) and i made a 90 degree turn, the fusion went over a surface that had some gravel on it, the car then slid and hit the pavement, the whole left side (the hub carriers, upper suspension mount, upper wishbones, ball sockhets) all bent. nowi got to search my piggie bank!!! hoping that i have enough cash to get those parts. :(

mochunk- u seem to be having a great time with you car- i have a solution for you, your belt is shreadding on the sides or anywhere, the car seems to be stiff to move, i had that problem once, you will have to open up the whole belt transmission as there might be a small stone in there that is locking up the whole belt drive that it prevents the car from moving freely. it's worth opening it up than damaging it. the clutch should be fine.

greggilbert- managed to burn some rubber lately as i'm sure you did have a great time as the weather was in favour!

hope to hear from you all.

laters.

[mochunk]

Thanks for the link. Couple of questions.

Was it the fact that you stripped out the hex head with the bit? Or was it internal and the shaft was actually worn and slipping on the bearing?

It's almost as if my brother keeps burning up one way bearings, but they seem ok when taken apart. Maybe the shaft is worn? Is that what you experienced?

I have had no such bad luck, but then again, I didn't have near as much trouble as he did getting it started, and tuned all the time. I've always just fired mine right up, even out of the box. Tuning was a little slow going, but not too bad. He's probably had to 'start' and crank his about 6:1 times over myself, in about the same amount of time.

Let me know what parts you need, I may have them in stock for you :)

Troll

[nitrohead3000]

Mochuck I think you are really going to like the nitro shoes they give good traction and they last a long time. Calandra racing concepts sells rear tires in 35mm if you need more traction.

Troll [/B][/QUOTE]

[Volumex]

Hi, is anyone racing the fusion in a proper race track.
What kind of setup is reccomended, beside foam and high downforce bodies? Which springs?
Thanks for any tip, there is a 1/5 scale track in LA that I won't be able to ignore, but no fusions there yet.
http://www.kzspeedway.com/kzs21elevations.jpg

[nitrohead3000]

Fellow fusion owners beware that the springs in your 3 speed tranny are very weak!! And if you modify your motor your car will be shifting way,way,way too soon. I am in third gear within 15 feet! If you know anyone who has a old bmt 891 3 speed that they want to sell tell them I am interested.

[GregGilbert]

Moral of the story; leave it alone! ;)

It was a good day yesterday, as I charged everything up, and decided to run a bit before going to work. I started with the RS4 2 , and found a few bumps that appeared to be smooth. I scoped the huge lot out, and it was nice up near the building- but there were still alot of cars. Decided not to run the Fusion (ya flip an RS4, you dont bother even fueling the Fusion). I talked to a buddy of mine at work, and we deciced to run it after work.

By 4:30 am, the lot was pretty much empty. I again ran the RS4 for a few minutes, then fired the Fusion up. I left the needle setting as it was the last time I ran it, and after warming up, it was rather rich. I leaned it out a bit, and it was screamin'. Needless to say, I think I have a co-worker hooked. LOL

Again, just like clock-work, it fired right up, and was still very "streetable" with the current needle setting from a few weeks ago when it was 20 degrees colder. In other words, Id say its pretty user-friendly...especially for me; Im just a gas boat guy looking to pass time (and asphalt).

Its still in one piece, still flyin', and I now know the black, blue, and purple body is not the best choice for night-flyin'. :D

Greg

[nitrohead3000]

Greg I never leave anything along. I solved my shifting problem by going to ace hardware store I found some springs that were a little bit stronger than the stock springs in the tranny , now the motor is winding out before it shifts and it is staying in its powerband.

[neverenufpwr]

Im with nitrohead. What mods did you make to your fusion, and what performance gains did you get? To quote RCCA's executive editor "if you could go faster, wouldnt you?" Lord knows i want to. ;)

[GregGilbert]

I hear ya guys on going faster. For me, thats the way it is with boats. The Fusion, however, is fast enough for me. You guys are probably much better drivers than I am. LOL I DO wish I could get my RS4 2 to go faster though, but then again, thats whet I have the Fusion for.

The spring thing is interesting. Someone posted awhile back about Schumacher saying to remove the spring all together.

Greg

[nitrohead3000]

Hello Neverenufpwr I like your name. The first modification I did to my fusion was to get rid of the kit tires. The reason I did that was because those tire were design to handle the horse power of a 12 size engine not a 21 size engine. The second reason I got rid of the rubber tires was at high rpms they would swell up and get caught up inside of the wheel wells. So I switched to foams= more traction more control. I had to modify the rear hub carriers so the tires would not stick out from the body. I just use my dremel to remove some material from the arm part of the carrier where the rim rubbed. Right now I have 28mm on the front and 30mm on the rear. I did a port job and turbo the crank on the thunder tiger. The motor screamed in the car! This winter I got bored so I reworked the ports enlarged the opening of the turbo when I put this monster back in the car it was shifting at half trottle if you punched it the power of the motor would instantly overcome the resistance of the springs and you start of in high gear . I am currently experimenting with different springs to find the best combination. I also put a cvec pipe on my 21 because I felt that the kit pipe was to restrictive!

[Volumex]

Hi,
Did anyone get rid of the stock plastic Hex drives, yet?
Tryed a set of Factory Team from the NTC3 this evening, but the hole is too small.
As far as Aluminum Hex Drives and Axle Roll Pins, are the Schumacher the only compatible option?
Would any other brand (available at any LHS) fit the Fusion axle and hole?
Just don't want to go mail order on this one...
Tnx.

[nitrohead3000]

volumex I think team traxxas made some aluminum hexs for their nitro 4tec pro that should fit ! I have a set on my fusion.

[mochunk]

Hey hey hey,

Well I got my fusion all back together again finally. And figured out what went wrong with the belt. Pretty good documentation and pics here (http://mochunk.net/rccars/fusionbeltfix.shtml) .

Anyways, while it was out, I threw on the high speed gearing, and tried to take it out for a run. Since it was 27 degrees out, the motor wasn't liking it too much, and the roads were filthy from all the rain knocking all the buds off the trees, so I didn't have enough room to fully open it up, not to mention it was down on power running a little rich I think. But I could notice a diff, Starting from a spot I knew, I was hitting third and still pulling hard and going faster by the time I got to where I was standing and shut it down. I think it seriously might have gained almost 10mph by the time it would have topped out. If you want flat out speed, give the taller gearing a try, I don't think you'd be disappointed. I have several extra ones, NIP if anyone's interested.

Hopefully the belt install could be helpful to someone if they find themselves in the situation I was in, or just find it interesting.

Troll

[GregGilbert]

Nice post, Troll. Very informative! As far as temps are concerned, although I probably should not have done it, I ran mine even in the break-in period in temps a little colder than 27*F. I did however "baby" it.

Also, I hear ya on the gettin' dirty thing. It dont take long! I honestly think I have logged more time cleaning it than I have ran it, but its only because im meticulous...I can now say Ive ran it quite a bit!

What type and percentage fuel are you running?

Greg

[gfusion]

hey you all! its been a long time! i tried to access this website a few days ago but couldn't as it was under repairs.
remember i had a problem with my e-start, that it got worn out.....here's the pic i promised...

[gfusion]

i thought i'd post some pics to keep you all entertained.....

[gfusion]

another 1.....

[gfusion]

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[gfusion]

and last one......

[gfusion]

troll (mochunk), your website is fantastic! the information on the fusion was very good, i had the same problem with the belt guard, it was bent due to the fact that a small pebble got in. hey thanks for asking if i wanted parts, i feel i'm asking for too much....save it for your car incase you need it.

here's my website, i know it needs a bit of updating but will do soon.. http://gwrc.tripod.com/index.htm (copy and paste it in your web browser)

greg, i'm using a standard model fuel, dynaglo 10% , thats more than enough for me and good for my engine. ran my car yesterday but had to be careful as my rear lower suspension arms are cracked from the previous crash...will have to save up some cash!

enjoy the fusion racers.

laters.

[gfusion]

and one last thing.....do you think the medial pro tyres are good for the fusion? the one with its own sponge instaed of foam inserts? as i suppose it should be good.
any one used these tyres?

[fusion_man]

hi guys i have been around rc cars for years now and the fusion WOW..... it is a vry fast and cool car but need some help please if you dont mind.

i have tryed the normal tires that came with it they went stright in the bin if i had to discribe them i would be kicked off this site for the words i would use :) and i have tryed some soft rubber tires and better but will still break out i need to know what foam tires shall i go for as i am sure people on this form have used the fusion with foams.
i have been looking at the fresh kicks but only come on dish weels but i would like the alloys with the best foams around the car will be used for track and car park so dont know what to go for maby soft as i need as much grip BUT they need to last.

if you could help please , if any one knows what english site where to get them or info so i can order from my shop in clacton please guys.

all so body shells does any one know the best one for fusion for downforce and best handerling please guys.

all so please wish me luck as i have a driving test on tuesday so i might pass i am good at rc cars but as for the rwall things i treat them a bit like the rc ones :( lol

wish me luck any way. :)

thanks guys this will be a big help as i need the stuff for week end .

thanks again guys. :)

[nitrohead3000]

FUsion Man TRY some nitro shoes30 shore,30mm for the rear and 35shore,28 mm for the front. TRY to find a can-am style body for it like what the 1/8 scales racer use maxium downforce. I get the impression from your post that you dont live in the United State ?

[mochunk]

I'll tell you, between my brother and I, I think we made NEED all the parts I have. After he spent an hour getting his back together, fired it up, and was tooling around without a body on trying to tune it. By this time I had mine about as nice as I could get it and was already running around with the body on, we went down the street, both hammered it, I got the jump, he swerved in front of me, so I go flying into the air about three feet, come down and spin around, and a wheel goes flying!

I thought it was mine at first! But unfortunately he broke the control arms he just spent an hour fixing. Grr.. so I had to hand over yet ANOTHER extra set I had in stock. I told him, don't go running around with no body again near me ;)

After that tank, I was pretty much done, I had been running for an hour and a half, and was getting bored of just doing high speed runs up and down the street with the tall gearing on it. I had him beat by at least 10mph to his stock gearing, on the top end. And his was definately tuned a little better. I just can't seem to get it quite right. I dunno maybe it's the fuel. He's running 20% blue thunder, and I'm running 20% trinity. My temps were pretty much spot on, ranging from 190 at a cold idle to 250 or so after a few high speed blasts. (the venom temp gauge strapped on rocks, can check high and low temps. awesome). So I dunno.

This car is just squirrely. Even with the 32mm an 28mm nitro shoes on it. Sure my alignment isn't exactly spot on yet, and it tracks straight at speed, but anywhere in between and it's nuts. And turning at anything into second gear is difficult. Maybe I should try another pair or 32mm's out front! ;)

The 'high speed' gearing is pretty cool though. If anyone is interested, I'm selling three of them I have in stock. Fair price with shipping, not about to turn this into a post about selling crap, but I figured I'd mention it since I was talking about running it on my car. Please don't hurt me :D

Troll

[nitrohead3000]

Hey Mochuck You didnt mention the shore rating on your tires, and what kind of body are you using? Also BLUE THUNDER FUEL will give you more power because they dont use as much oil and syn lube as the other , so less oil equal less drag equal more rpms Also what weight shock oil are you using ? To get more traction you may need to go with a light oil and possible change your shock springs.

[fusion_man]

nitrohead3000 on the fusion you can only fit 26 mm front and back on as it will rubb on the arm>
it says 26mm on the spec of fusion and i got a tape musure and max is 26mm.

i heard to day the jaco tires or somthig are really good.

any help please guys :)

[mochunk]

Shore rating?

The rears have a decent offset and fit fine with no rubbing, and probably would on the front as well.

As far as shock oil weight and all that, it's all stock. I haven't touched a thing.

I'm running the kit BMW body.

Troll

[fusion_man]

what tires are you using and where did you get them from and will off set pock out side of case?? need to know what ones to get and where and a english site.

[fusion_man]

hi i can try to explane all day but there is so much on these cars :)

so here is the site i am looking at what tirs shall i go for on that site and is it ok because it is a usa site?

http://64.70.208.72/speedtechrc/9.html

[nitrohead3000]

Fusion Man Those are the right tires ! For the front get 35 shore with a 2 degree offset. For the rear get 30 shore with a 2 degree offset. The 2 degree offset should keep the tires from rubbing the arm on the hub carrier. The bad news is it looks like they are out of stock right now. The lower the shore number is the softer the compound with 30 shore being the softest and 45 shore being the hardest

[nitrohead3000]

Mochuck shore is a rating system that most european tire manufactorys use. The lower the shore number the softer the tire.The shore numbers usually start at 30 shore being the softest and go up to 45 shore being the hardest. You can get more traction by going with a lighter shock oil and springs look at the optional parts section in your fusion book. Foam tires are great but they do have one draw back!! If you run high speed oval like I do with your fusion you are going to cone the tire on the right outside this sets up a tweak in your chassis. You can counter this to some degree by rotating the tires to get even tire wear after every other run or just truing the tires on your tire truer.

[backtier]

Hey guys I just got my new Fusion Sunday. I traded a guy a AXIS and a old Rustler for it. He did not even finish breaking it in yet so its basicly brand new. I cranked it up last night and could not get it to go straight. as soon as i gave it gust a little throttle it spun around. I started to go throught the car when i relized the front diff was lose. So i losened the locking nut tightened the 2.5 mm nut all the way then backed it off 1/4 turn. i hope this fixes the prob.


I also wanted to know what width tire you guyes are running. From what i read it looks like you are running 26mm front and 30mm rear is this correct?

[nitrohead3000]

Backtier That is what I have on mine never used the stock tires . REREAD the sit up section in the instruction manual The car comes pre assembled but that does not mean it is really set up,check everything especially the droop screws located in the lower suspension arms check and make sure the drive train is free and has very little drag to it and make sure your shocks are the same lenght on both sides front and back.

[mochunk]

Originally posted by nitrohead3000
Mochuck shore is a rating system that most european tire manufactorys use. The lower the shore number the softer the tire.The shore numbers usually start at 30 shore being the softest and go up to 45 shore being the hardest. You can get more traction by going with a lighter shock oil and springs look at the optional parts section in your fusion book. Foam tires are great but they do have one draw back!! If you run high speed oval like I do with your fusion you are going to cone the tire on the right outside this sets up a tweak in your chassis. You can counter this to some degree by rotating the tires to get even tire wear after every other run or just truing the tires on your tire truer.

I see, well I am running 35's all around. So I guess they are pretty soft? I dunno. I just bash around with this car, so I'm not too worried about it all. Just keeping it in one piece. As far as coning out the tires, I already did a good job when it was rubbing the body at first, and the other day I took yet another chunk out of one of the rears, my street is pretty rough at the edges. I need to find a BIG empty smooth parking lot. Flying up and down the street gets boring. I could have just gotten a drag car for that ;)

Troll

[nitrohead3000]

Mochuck 35 shore thats about med soft thats good, you could get a little more traction with 30 shore in the rear. Check your car for chassis tweak if it keeps pulling. And if you guys are getting tired of drag racing you can turn your car into a high speed oval racer if you wanted to by changing the body changing the shock oil and springs getting a high downforce wing some cutting and you would end up with a oval racer you wont get bored with, it handles good and it flys!

[GregGilbert]

The wider wheels / tires sound like a good idea. Im running 26mm pre-glued slicks; although they handle surprisingly well, the wider ones might be the way to go! The softer compound tires in the rear make sense too, as the ass end will come around to pass up the front end at times! LOL

I am currently running mine with the thinnest shock spacers in the front, and the next size up in the rear. The Saleen S7R body provides enough downforce, and I think the slightly raised profile is a bit more forgiving on "rougher" parking lots.

As for the anti-droop, I simply held the wheels down and pulled up on the chassis; theres a very small "dead area" there that a turn and a half or so on the droop screws will eliminate. With the shocks extended, the complete "travel" is now solid. Other than that, Im running it just like it came out of the box.

I just took off the radio box, fuel tank, front and rear body mount assy., and engine to give it a thorough scrubbin' down. It again looks as good as new! :)

Greg

[neverenufpwr]

what kind of life can i expect to get from these 30 and 35 shore tires? i dont want to have to buy tires every other time i run but i definately need more traction. all my running is just parking lots and stuff (no racing in nw pennsylvania):rolleyes: also , do these tires come in pairs?

[nitrohead3000]

Neverenufpwr Foams will never give you the amount of wear time that rubber tires will but the fusion has a 21 size engine in it like a 1/8 scale on road car does, I think the kit tire are going to come up short in the traction department when compared to the foam tires. I have tried several different brands and I like the nitro shoes they seem to wear longer than the other brands I have tried. TO Get THE MOST WEAR OUT OF FOAM TIRES REMEMBER TO ROTATE.

[Havoc223]

I'll be getting my Fusion probably some time next week and I think I'll start off using the rubber tires that it comes with and later switch to foams.From what I've read about the Fusion it's been said that the original rubber tires come without inner foams.I'll be running on rough asphalt and was wondering if anyone can suggest which inner foams to use?Would soft inner foams provide more traction? Thanks

[GregGilbert]

Would foam inserts work with the factory tires? I know Schumacher does not offer them with inserts, as the tire is very stiff. They almost feel like they are inflated. Ive still never ran them on the Fusion, so I cant comment on how good they work.

Greg

[neverenufpwr]

nitrohead, thanks for the tip. im going to try the foams

[nitrohead3000]

Neverenufpwr You are welcome.

[Havoc223]

I just received my new fusion today and noticed that when I roll the car I hear a clicking noise comming from the rear.I haven't started the car yet so I'm pretty sure the noise is comming from somewhere in the drivetrain.Is this a normal sound?All my other cars are driveshaft or 2 wheel drive so I really don't have any experience with belt driven cars.
Thanks,
LC :confused:

[nitrohead3000]

Havoc- Dont worry this is normal , it is just your 1 speed ratchet plate clicking.

[Havoc223]

Thanks for the reply Nitrohead.I was a little worried being that it's a RTR and not knowing what sounds to expect from a belt driven car.
Thanks Again,
LC:) :D :)

[mochunk]

Yeah, that's one of the annoying things abour this car, man you can hear that thing rattling on decell. all the way down the street :)

I found my kit to be setup and adjusted just fine. I had to do a little alignment work, but for the most part, it was all tight, even and backlash and belt tension adjusted fine.

I've had the car 90% apart and found the same thing. All screws tight and everything assembled as it should be.

Can't complain too much. Except for that the motor is quite picky and sensitive to tuning ;(

Troll

[nitrohead3000]

Mochuck You are having tuning problems? What is the motor doing? Is it cutting out when you go wide open ? Or when you hit the brakes and the engine go to idle it stops ?

[GregGilbert]

Thats wild, Mochunk...I dont think I have seen anyone post about the .21 being tempermental or hard to tune. I pretty much gave up on nitro a couple years ago, and swore id never go back, but when I started wanting a car, I didnt want an electric. In other words, im far from a "nitro Pro". I am amazed at how easy it to tune, and how it stays there.

Can you elaborate a bit more, as I find this interesting? What plug are you running? Either way, good luck with it, and Happy Easter! :)

Greg

[Havoc223]

Thanks for the info Mochunk.I now have an idea of what to expect.:D

[Havoc223]

Eventually the Thunder Tiger engines in our Fusions will wear out so I was wondering if it is feasible to use the E-start system on a .21 engine from another company such as OS.Would it matter if the new engine came with a pull start or not?Has anyone tried adapting a different engine to the E-start?:confused:

[mochunk]

I wouldn't say I'm having 'problems' and maybe I'm just inexperienced. But to me it seems like a pain. And no matter what I do, it doesn't seem to run as hard as my brothers once his is dialed in. Even with the tall gearing on it, I hardly pull away from his at top speed. And it always feels a little congested. I've even got the temp gauge on it, and have had trouble even getting to the desired temp range.

It almost seems to run too cool (I'm assuming rich) all of the time. No matter how much I lean it out, until it gets to the point that it's starving and runs worse. Granted the weather has been horribly all over the place in IL here so far this year, so I'm sure that doesn't help.

Maybe I'm just too used to the plug in a pack and go electrics ;)

Everything on this car is original, and I'm running trinity 20%.

Troll

[nitrohead3000]

Mochuck What is the oil content of the trinity fuel? Is your bother using the same kind of fuel?

[GregGilbert]

Sorry to change the subject, but I am selling my Fusion. If interested, see my post in the for sale section; "FS: Schumacher Fusion".

Thanks,
Greg

[nitrohead3000]

Greg- sorry to hear that Greg what happen, lost interest?

[GregGilbert]

No...Ive not lost interest at all. Im finally getting a house, and moving from an apartment. It is on 1.2 acres, and with all the dirt from landscaping, im thinking about making a little dirt track on the back of the property. If I dont get a nitro truck, I might purchase a few tools for my garage, as I will FINALLY have a place to work.

I would miss it, but its not irreplaceable. Im kinda likin' the .15 Fusion, but I havent heard alot about it. If it is as solid and reliable as the .21, Im already sold. I do take care of it, but I have not had the first problem with the Fusion.

Either way, I will still be found lurking amongst the Fusion thread. :)

Greg

[Colt M4]

Has anybody ever dropped a modified .21 in their fusion?

[nitrohead3000]

Hi Colt, I modified my thunder tiger21 that comes with the fusion. The transmission shifts too fast because it is putting out more horsepower and I cant adjust the shift points on the tranny. If you are planing on putting a different type of motor in your fusion you are going to run into a problem , finding a motor that the ez start system will work on and getting motor mounts that fit your new engine.

[vipergtx109]

hey guys im an off road electric brushless guy so i love speed fusion sounds cool but where do you buy it ???at schumacher.com its for $399 non rtr but someone on this post said it was for $350 rtr im confused please someone reply and help me out thanks

[rc man37689]

go to h a r c ohobbies.com

no spaces though
its 379.99 kit
i have never seen a lower price for it than 379.99kit
no in hells ways it could be 350 rtr

:)

[tommitls]

go to www.ultimatehobbies.com, you might be able to find the fusion for less. Call them up and ask for Cliff, he handles the schumacher sales. :)

Tom

[fusion_man]

hi guys i have been playing around with the fusion for ages now as we have 2 of the things.

they are wicked in every way!!! they rule all that comes in to mide is what is power with out control!!

I HAVE SPENT MONTHS TRYING TO SET up the fusion and it is geting a lot better with the new soft rubber tires with very hig q inserts.
the fusion is a lot better but not there yet i am still playing around one of the bigest probs is how low it hit a stone under neath and knocks the car out!
i have put bigger spacers on the sus to stif the sus up and angle the sus a bit more will have to try on sunday.

any more info on this to better handerling please help as all help is cool.

and i would like to say a big hello to evry one and will do my best to help you guys out if i can as well.

fusion rules.

:)

[nitrohead3000]

Fusionman- My advice, to you is to find a parking lot that has less rocks and is cleaner because a parking lot that has alot of rocks and sand will also cause your belt to wear out fast.

[fusion_man]

oi ya we have found a smoth ground in a couch park byt the handerling is still not all there so i will tell all if my new setup has worked on sunday if i go out.:)

[nitrohead3000]

Fusion man --- Is this your first nitro car ? Have you had any experence sitting up cars? Or are you new to the hobby?

[fusion_man]

no i have been around these things for a while and planes!!

its just the fusion is a nother ball game as we have 2 buggeys racing and 2 fusions in our house my one has had a cople of bits done to it , i would just like to know othere fusion racers set up so it will help me out a bit better :)

this is my first touring car so i use to do off road but know a little bit about on raod.

much help will be cool.

[nitrohead3000]

OK FUSIONMAN-- The first thing I did to my car was to get rid of those rubber tires! A buddy of mine had them on his fusion and when he got up to speed they would balloon out and get caught in the wheelwells of his