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04-18-2007, 11:42 AM
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Spektrum DX3R PRO RADIO SYSTEM! HOT!

From www.horizonhobby.com:
DX3R DSM2 3CH Surface Radio
Key Features
30 model memory
Digital trims
Graphically depicted exponential
Graphically depicted travel adjustment
Trim rate adjustment
Steering dual rate
Steering dual rate override
Frame rate
Servo monitor
Switch assignment
Model reset
Model copy
Sub Trims
3 timer functions: countdown, count up and integrated
Overview
While DX3R’s intelligently designed ergonomics are the first thing that catches the eye, it is the superior responsiveness of its advanced 2.4GHz DSM2 technology that will get people talking. In addition to unparalleled freedom and interference protection, DSM2 has a faster response time than any other spread spectrum or PPM system. With it, you will be able to hold the “line” around a track with a level of precision and control unlike anything you have experienced before. And because DSM2 uses direct sequence spread spectrum technology, you’ll maintain this superior response rate no matter how “noisy” the 2.4GHz environment gets.
Specs
# of Channels: 3
Modulation: DSM2
Band: 2.4GHz
Receiver: SPMSR3100
Model Memory: 30 Model Memory
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04-18-2007, 11:45 AM
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That thing is sweet looking.
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04-18-2007, 11:49 AM
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What I like is the 30 model memory. Man I wish I had 30 models to work with! I'm lucky if I can keep 3 trucks running!
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04-18-2007, 11:52 AM
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Think of it as 30 SETUP memory--who has 30 cars?
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04-18-2007, 11:55 AM
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I guess it might come in handy if you have one car and hit 30 tracks and you want to keep your settings for every track?
Bottom line is that Spektrum just raised the bar for radios.
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04-18-2007, 11:56 AM
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Finally a Spektrum with more then 3 Model Memory.
By the way I have 15 different cars, so I'm halfway to the 30 the DX3R can handle.
I wonder if the other Spektrum receivers will work with it? How many receivers come with the radio?
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04-18-2007, 12:02 PM
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is there or will there be telemetry?
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04-18-2007, 12:09 PM
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Thats a pretty nice looking radio, I like it.
$320 isn't too bad either, I paid $440 for my R-1 Pro 3 years ago, and this is way sweeter.
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04-18-2007, 12:12 PM
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Their release doesn't say if it is backwards compatiable or not. Since this radio is based of DSM2 technology and not DSM then maybe it isn't?
Looks like it only comes with one of the new SPMSR3100 recievers.
Doesn't say anything about servos either, but I would think it would come with servo horns, and a JR/Spekrum 590M and 270 standard servo.
It looks like Spektrum finally has a "Pro" radio so that you don'y need to buy a M11 and then buy M11 Spekrum modules.
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04-18-2007, 12:40 PM
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04-18-2007, 12:55 PM
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WOW!!! That looks odder than the Nomadio Sensor!!!!
Finally us Nomadioites will have some revenge on the people making fun of our radio's. lol
Hopefully Spektrum made it faster than the current system.
The only features I like about this is are the 30 model memory (The Nomadio React has 40) and the Huge screen.
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04-18-2007, 12:56 PM
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If your paying that much for a radio....do you really want substandard servos? Personally Ill keep my M11, or if I can, trade for a 3pks.
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04-18-2007, 01:43 PM
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Think of it as 30 SETUP memory--who has 30 cars? 
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Not me. I only have 25 or so. 30 would just be ridiculous.
This is a nice lookin radio. I'm interested to see pricing information on it.
I'm also curious if it's backwards compatible, meaning do all of my standard and Pro Spektrum Rx's work with it, or will I have to buy all new recievers if I buy this Tx?
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04-18-2007, 01:51 PM
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Horizon has it listed for $319.99
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04-18-2007, 01:54 PM
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WOAH!!!!
More expensive than a React or Sensor. lol
Horizon seems to have alot of hope for this if its that much money.
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04-18-2007, 01:59 PM
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"DSM2 has a faster response time than any other spread spectrum or PPM system"
Does this mean its using a faster than 100 framerate than the Nomadio or Airtronics? Or that its latency is lower than both? Spectrum has NO tech details about DSM2 on their site. They also go on about how sequential channels is better "And because DSM2 uses direct sequence spread spectrum technology, you’ll maintain this superior response rate no matter how “noisy” the 2.4GHz environment gets." Hmm, the other side (FHSS) has said the opposite.
Where is the truths in all this propaganda both sides are spurting?
Interesting they are no longer using JR/KO radio bodies. Wonder of JR is going to keep around with Horizon that much longer since this is all direct competition? I'm really wondering what JR will offer themselves. (JR fanman)
Final question.. is this a true digital system or analog to digital signal like the older dxs? (Thinking former to correspond with the dsm2 claim)
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04-18-2007, 02:50 PM
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I've held a mocked up version of the DX3R and it's really comfortable! The radio should be extremly light because it only runs on 4.8 volts.
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04-18-2007, 03:25 PM
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fianlly a good screen...
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04-18-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by The_Mini_Me
Does this mean its using a faster than 100 framerate than the Nomadio or Airtronics?
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I think that touting a "Faster frame rate!" is pretty rediculous, anyway. When was the last time you drove a high end race car with high end digital servos and said to yourself "Man, I wish the frame rate was faster!". Uh, never. 99.9% of the population wouldn't notice a difference in response if you'd swap a lower end FM radio in place of a DSM setup. What I care about is glitch free operation, great ergonomics, battery efficiency for those long mains, telemetry, and to never have any range issues. Other than my first Spektrum system having some issues with low receiver pack voltage, I've got no complaints about what is currently available.
I've switched from an R-1 Pro with a Spektrum setup to a Nomadio Sensor a few month back. It's a bit ugly, but I love the ergonomics, ease of use, and all the features. I personally can't tell the difference in response between the R-1's standard module (non-PCM or PCM), the Spectrum module (standard or Pro), and my Sensor. Response isn't what I was in the market for, since a human typically can't rotate a wheel or pull a trigger faster than .13, MAYBE .10 of a second. The initial jump in to DSM was for the obvious - NO MORE CRYSTALS!!! How great was that? The switch from Spektrum, for me, was partially due to the built-in telemetry of the Nomadio, in addition to all the little gadgets (I'm a freak that way).
I'm happy to see that Horizon is releasing a higher-end setup, it appears to be a killer radio. But it may be time to chill on bragging about frame rates and response time, since it's more a marketing ploy than anything else. Buy the radio for all the features your able to see and touch, the radio will keep up with your driving, no matter how fast you think you are.
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04-18-2007, 04:11 PM
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True enough, but as that range gets more crowded with other devices, I would like to know my radio wont be obsolete. Especially since this is DSM2. If DSM worked well enough, why bother with DSM2? Thats where the FHSS versus the DSS needs to be addressed truthfully by a third party. In example, I read on another forum of someone whose spectrum controlled heli would drop anytime someone turned on a specific wireless video camera on rctech.
I do like the lowered wheel on this more than the react. At the same time being able to upgrade your firmware, charge your radio, change settings, and use as a joystick on your computer really is quite a feat the React can do. At the other end, this radio does look (at least) to be of better plastics than the Reacts. The big downer of both is where is the backlight?
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04-18-2007, 04:21 PM
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Wow, looks like an interesting piece of kit! The specs don't look like anything ground-breaking, but I'd really like to know what's behind this "DSM2". It'll have to be nothing short of amazing to be faster than the React...but why Spektrum are saying that DSSS is better than FHDSS is beyond me.
Still, the big screen is very nice...
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where is the backlight?
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No argument here. My M11 and my Helios are both backlit. It may not seem like much, but I do drive my stuff at night or at dusk, and the backlight just makes all the difference in the world.
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nomadio says in order to make the react compatable with spectrum recivers. they have to have the react in super slow mode...
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Strange....
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A little more info about DSM2 that I found on specktrumrc.com:
Above and beyond the basic features of DSM, there has been a technological breakthrough for both air and surface applications thanks to Spektrum. An updated version of DSM technology referred to as DSM2 (second generation protocol) makes it possible to fly any size model with the convenience, safety, and peace of mind of Spektrum. With DSM2, the total latency of your radio system has been greatly reduced, while the bit-rate has been increased. When combined, these improvements provide hobbyists with a faster and more locked-in feeling when compared to traditional 27MHz, 72MHz, or 75MHz radio systems. DSM2 also provided a new opportunity when separating the two receivers. By providing superior path diversity, the DSM2 receiver can now see a broader RF environment.
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