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Old 09-25-2003, 09:50 PM
CAMRY17 CAMRY17 is offline
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Novak Brushless System In A Monster Truck

I have 2 noval 5300 Super sport Brushless motors & one monster truck txt equal. I am wanting to install, but the novak website suggests not using these.

Due to me being in area limited in not getting new stuff fast. This is all I have to work with.

What do people think of this system as a dual motor set up in a monster/ 4wd stadium turck.

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Old 09-26-2003, 05:25 PM
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i think using two of those motors would be ok in that truck. or you could sell those motors and buy a novak 4300 or two which is specifically made for monster trucks
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Old 09-26-2003, 06:26 PM
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First and foremost, the SS4300 is NOT for monster trucks. It is a Brushless "Stock Motor" equivalent. NOT FOR MONSTER TRUCKS.

Just so I can try to avoid further confusion, what led you to beleive the SS4300 was a monster truck motor?

The Super Sport system that is currently available is not suited for monster trucks as a "single" system. Most folks that have tried two have been pleased with performance as it is twice the power of one system. Dual Super Sports is not as powerful as what the HV-Maxx System will be (See our website for details), but it will work okay. In the TXT- we ran a single SS and it is halfway decent, just gets too hot to be used regularily, dual would be a different story. I have not run dual Super Sports in the TXT, but I have in the E-Maxx and it the systems will be slightly better than the stock Titan setup.

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Old 09-27-2003, 09:40 AM
Bob Ebophalus Bob Ebophalus is offline
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is is too a MT motor. these quotes are directly from the 4300 thread in the hottest products forum.

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HV-Maxx brushless motor and ESC for Traxxas E-Maxx
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Single HV motor replaces dual brushed 550s
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The HV Maxx Brushless Motor System is significantly faster than the dual stock titan setup that comes in the truck.
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Novak’s newest brushless motor and ESC combo is a direct replacement for the Traxxas E-Maxx
it is a "stock motor equivalent" but for the emaxx, not a 540 stock motor. see how long the can is? that means torque, which you need in an MT.
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Old 09-27-2003, 06:44 PM
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So Bob, motor can length is directly linked to torque? Longer the motor, the more torque I get?

Can you please post a MORE missleading statement. There are many many more factors that determine torque. Can length IS NOT one of them.
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Old 09-28-2003, 08:58 AM
Bob Ebophalus Bob Ebophalus is offline
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so can lingth is not in any way related to torque? im sorry, i thought it was. but why do the 550s in a emaxx have more torque than a 540 of the same wind? they have longer cans.
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Old 09-28-2003, 09:17 AM
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longer cans means longer magnets. stronger or bigger magnets makes stronger motors.
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Old 09-28-2003, 10:46 AM
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longer cans means longer magnets. stronger or bigger magnets makes stronger motors.
But you can get super strong magnets in a 540 can as well.

550 use a larger armature, which also more flexability in motor design, and more voltage to be used if required. Too bad no motor manfactuer has taken advantage of this though.
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Old 09-28-2003, 11:05 AM
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But you can get super strong magnets in a 540 can as well.

550 use a larger armature, which also more flexability in motor design, and more voltage to be used if required. Too bad no motor manfactuer has taken advantage of this though.
How you figure? the novak HV is basically a 550can
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Old 09-28-2003, 11:13 AM
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-sigh-

I give up.
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Old 09-28-2003, 12:17 PM
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So Bob, motor can length is directly linked to torque? Longer the motor, the more torque I get?

Can you please post a MORE missleading statement. There are many many more factors that determine torque. Can length IS NOT one of them.
longer arms DO produce more torque but generaly need more voltage.
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Old 09-28-2003, 07:23 PM
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Thanks for your help. I'll give it ago.

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Old 10-07-2003, 11:48 PM
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Hey Bob trying reading either slower or more carefully. If you look on that site under the HV-maxx where you can click on the SS BL system and the SS4300 motor this is what it says right above these two links:
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The HV-Maxx High-Voltage Brushless Motor System will be available soon. Please keep posted for updates. For information about our other brushless motor systems click on either of the following links:
Now is it clear to you or what. The SS4300 motor is for use with vehicle such as TC's that are lighter and don't want to have the blazing speed as the SS5800. It is close to running a stock motor. It is not designed for MT's even small MT like a Stapede I wouldn't try it in.
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Old 10-07-2003, 11:52 PM
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Sorry the systems I have is the SS5800 not the 4300.
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Old 10-08-2003, 05:37 PM
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oops we kinda jacked your thread. sorry.

ok i was wrong. can we get back on topic now? i was thinking about the hv maxx.
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Old 10-27-2003, 09:53 PM
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What sort of gearing should I use for dual ss novaks in a TXT1?
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Old 10-27-2003, 10:28 PM
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I'd start out around 1/4
and then keep moving up, till your electronics get warmer than you'd like, or you don't have enough torque/runtime.
-Nick
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Old 10-28-2003, 11:05 PM
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What do you mean by 1/4?

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Old 10-29-2003, 06:02 AM
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dual bl is bad, mmmmmkay?
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