Brushless Motor Forum v1.0

[crono man]

well i think it was about time dont you?

lets get it on

[k_sw31]

i e-mailed fine design rc. They said theyre gettin a new bl controller for 110 bux, i think i'll take that. I heard the orions shipped to, my t3 is so excited.

I thought you bought an Astroflight controller?

[k_sw31]

yeah well it turns out it isn't for brushless, don't ask. The guys at fine design said with that setup they got a 9 min run at an average of 35 mph.

[SandManRacing]

Hi, I'm looking for a brushless system for my RC10T3. The Hacker C40-S seems to be one of the best available right now. But I don't know which controler is the best. Schulze seems to be very popular. Anyone ever tried the Jeti ?

I waited for the Novak or Team-Orion system for long enough. I wounder if Novak plans to release it this year. The Vortex looks promising, but is not available yet and the first ones will have ferrite magnets (not neodyne). I heard that ferrite is WAY LESS POWERFULL.

The only thing I like about the Vortex is the projected price. It's about half the price of a Hacker/Schulze system.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Alain

[k_sw31]

what sight were u lookin at? I haven't found a good sight for aveox systems, i heard theyre rc7 is good though.

[SandManRacing]

Sorry, it wasn't Avox I wanted to say but Vortex. This is my mistake.


On another thread someone says that we can order a Team-Orion brushless motor from many places right now :

"Customers can buy an Orion brushless motor from any local hobby shop, mail order or internet site." by Rick Hohwart

I couldn't find any places myself. At Tower Hobbies the motors are expected for late August and the controlers are no longer listed. What does it mean ?

Thanks,

Alain

[crono man]

for sure the orion will be less powerfull because of the ferrite magnets(thats why it costs way less) and i think that the novak will be ferrite based(to keep costs down as well).

for the moment i think the safest option is the aveox rc7 its stong and the sensored based system is for the moment more reliable than sensorless(in my opinion)

but if you really want to go with sensorless motors than a schulze/hacker combo is unbeatable

[k_sw31]

are the neo magnets race legal though?

[crono man]

hey sandmanracing where are you located in quebec,im near quebec city?

[crono man]

well neo magnets are not legal just like cobalts but i think it does not matter because BL motor even the ferrites ones are still not ROAR or IFMAR approved.

[SandManRacing]

Thanks Crono Man

Is there so much problems with sensorless systems or it is just some minor glitches.

I know that sensor based systems are supposed to offer more torque and a better control. But is there a big difference ?

Thanks,

Alain

[SandManRacing]

Hi Crono Man, I'm located at Trois-Rivières. Don't know if you know the place. It's half way to Montreal. By the way, I use to talk French normally, but the French forums are very rare. So I practice my English here

Bye,

Alain

[crono man]

yea went to visit the old part of trois-riviere last year beautifull place if you want to talk french no problem

btw heres a link a think you like;
http://pub13.ezboard.com/fmaxximumtr...D=1501.top ic

as for the bugs found in sensorless system i think they are minor but sometime there major like the car going into full reverse at full speed!

[SandManRacing]

Thank you for the link ! Very interresting.

Bye,

Alain

[gixxer]

Aren't most systems brakeless? I think the novak and orion have brakes? When are they releasing? I've been waiting since January and really looking foward into seeing nitro performance coming from an electric vehicle.

[k_sw31]

all systems intended for cars have brakes i'm pretty sure. WHat would be the thing to do is buy the aveox rc7 system, it has neo magnets, plus they've been in the buisness for quite a while, plus theyre just 20 bux more.

try http://www.aveox.com/hobby.htm


What i'm gonna do is get some sorta of brushless system, and use that in my t3 which i just bought a two-speed for.

[crono man]

i understand that sensorless systems must find the neutral point before they arm..but why do some systems start in reverse?

[gixxer]

Are they pretty fast? 25,000 rpms seems low. How fast is the rc7 with L160rc controller? How does it compare with a current set-up with mod brush motor and cyclone esc. I love the performance but had getting the com cut and brush replaced.

[crono man]

a guy here called frankW can help you out his got the aveox setup you are talking about..

are bl fast? you bet the thing is that they have the same rpm as a brushed motor(except maybe for a hacker b50 4s wich has a rpm of about 70000rpm ) but they have double the torque so its the insane gear ratio you can put in your car that makes them so evil

[k_sw31]

if it has 25000 rpm, that may not be such a bad thing. You can just gear the motor to how fast you would like it to go, and the low rpm would make for long runtime.

[WheelNut]

I'm getting a Avoex RC-7! When? should be within the month, but i have to sell my 4x4 pede first....My T3 should be happy

This is so predictable. After I spend my ENTIRE summer savings on a Hacker, Everybody now says that Aveox is better and Sensored are better. GGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!

[SandManRacing]

Sensored offers better control I think, but sensorless offers better performance (higher RPM).

I'm looking for a Hacker/Schulze combo right now.

Tell me if you want to sell your kit

Bye,

Alain

[crono man]

soya i highly doubt that you will regret your hacker motor there the strongest bl that i now of..

btw what type of car are you gonna put it in?