[AllegroSix]

Hi Im just about to buy my first ever RC plane!
I've been doing some research and have narrowed the choices down a bit
I know I want to spend up to $100, I know i want it to be elctric and I know I dont want it to be sooo easy to fly that i get bored of it after a while.

i have seen the Firebird Commander which looks good to me. What does everyone else think?

The other ones I liked were the dragan fly vorte and the PA-12 SUPER CRUISER found here!

Are these planes ok or are they all not that good!?!!?

My favourite is the pa-12 just because it looks solid and is the cheapest!

Thanks
AllegroSix

[aeropal]

ditto

[AllegroSix]

those are all a lot more expensive... except for the last one. noe of those really look like real planes tho. sounds girl bu thats what is soo cool bout the pa-12.

are there any major drawback about buying a plane like the pa-12. they seem cheap so i'm guessing that there are lots!


allegrosix

[aeajr]

I generally don't recommend two channel planes. If you decide to get one, think about what wind! A critical piece of advice to you and to all two channel pilots. Respect the wind! REALLY RESPECT THE WIND!!!!!

These planes either have throttle and rudder or throttle and differential
thrust, which does about the same thing.

If you fly on a windy day you have a very high probability of losing the
plane. Why, because you have no way to fight the wind. If the plane gets
down wind from you, and it will, here is what happens. You hit the power to
fight the wind, but these planes climb when you hit the power, so instead of
coming back to you, they climb and as they climb, the wind pushes the plane
further away.

A very very experience two channel pilot can work around this through a series
of maneuvers called the death spiral. However, this is a difficult thing to
control for a new pilot. There is a fellow in our club who has lost two
Firebird Commanders to the wind. I even lost an Aerobird because I did not
know to push the nose down to dive into the wind at the time. It was my first
flight.

Now, when the wind is mild to moderate, 2-5 mph, he is very very good with
this plane. However he is still pretty new, maybe 15 flights, and has not
learned how to handle this plane in the wind.

A three channel plane with elevator control can push the nose down and dive
into the wind to come back. So, don't fly your rudder/elevator or diff thrust
plane in wind over 5 MPH until you are very good with the plane. Don't get
over 7 MPH until you can easily fight your way back from a down wind position.
electric planes for beginners and planes for more advanced
flyers. Some come ready to fly, some are almost ready to fly and some are
kits. All of them are electric. Whether you are finding your fist plane or
looking for that more advanced electric, you should find something here to
peak your interest.

Here are some three channel planes I do recommend.

I started on an Aerobird RTF. I love it and recommend it highly I have
almost 250 flights on mine. It is a ready to fly package which includes the
radio, charger, batteries, and all. $150
http://horizon.hobbyshopnow.com/prod...p?prod=HBZ3500
Review
http://www.hobbyzonesports.com/Disco...ID=1289#Page01
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147621


Other good RTF Starter Planes

Slow-V from Parkzone (I haven't flown this but reports are good.)
http://h1071118.hobbyshopnow.com/pro...p?prod=PKZ1300
Discussion Thread
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_20...tm.htm#2089493


T-Hawk - RTF or without radio
http://www.toytx.com/thawk3chrtf.html
T-Hawk - Without Radio - add your radio and receiver
http://www.readytoflyfun.com/wittran.html
T-Hawk Discussion Thread
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...ighlight=THawk
Hopped up T-Hawk
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...t+hawk+mega+16


Easy Star - RTF
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240025.asp
Easy Star - ARF
http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/240009.asp
Discussion Thread on Easy Star
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258656