Mugen MST-1 Truck Forum

gtwolfpack · #1 05-05-2002, 07:47 AM

This is a scanned image of a Japanese RC magazine featuring the long-awaited stadium truck of Mugen that is about to be announced in the upcoming Shizuoka Hobby show (I think may be sometime in May) in Japan...Looks like a clone of Losi NT? Anyone who can please translate the japanese article in the picture into English for the prospective readers who has no idea whatsoever is written in there

TeamCarnage · #2 05-05-2002, 10:50 AM

No need to translate this ad for me. I was really curious about Mugens offering into the Gas Truck wars mainly because I heard it was going to be equipt with a gear diff. Obviously, Its not. And your right it does look like a clone. But I'll still check it out when its available

Nutter · #3 05-05-2002, 11:20 AM

LOL! I've heard many times that it'd be very similar to the Losi XXX-NT, but that is just going way too far with it.. I hope Losi sue them over that; it's nearly an exact clone.

-Nutter

gtwolfpack · #4 05-05-2002, 11:36 AM

The article says the chassis is 3mm thick, it will be available in two forms, chassis only kit and MR-12 engine equipped one, It will have Proline tires, and from the shocks in the picture, the truck will have shock boots like 1/8 buggis. That's all I could understand in the article..Oh. BTW..one more, the article says the truck will be released late May...

GT, NT, Ultima ST-R, Rush and MST...gas truck scene will be hotter than ever..Uh? I hope 1/10 gas truck race will pick up in Japan as MST is released..

ragamuffin · #5 05-16-2002, 11:58 AM

Lmao!

Maybe it will have the more commonly available metric fasteners and the diff won't explode, lol!

Skribble · #6 05-16-2002, 04:01 PM

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I hope Losi sue them over that; it's nearly an exact clone.

Why do you think they look similiar? Why is the Reflex similiar to the V-One R? Why is a Saleen S7 look like a McLaren F1? -_-;

CHAD BRADLEY · #7 05-17-2002, 03:50 AM

you can see more pics on mugenracing.com under "whats new"

baileym · #8 05-17-2002, 07:22 AM

Chad,

One word for you... Sold. That truck looks sweet, and it isn't a losi.

Clod_Killer · #9 09-04-2002, 11:11 AM

SO does anyone have one yet?

banditwing · #10 09-04-2002, 12:44 PM

WOW the first thing I thought when I saw that, is, it's a losi.

I mean come on, it's practically the exact same thing. The chassis looks identical. The arms are identical. The transmission looks the same. It looks like they copied the exact same thing, even the reciever cover. The only thing they changed is maybe the slipper device, wheel hubs, shocks, and center chassis brace. If I had to chose between the two, I'd keep my losi thank you very much.

Tstalion79 · #11 09-05-2002, 08:22 AM

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Why is a Saleen S7 look like a McLaren F1?

Well the saleen s7 and the mclaren are completely different cars, unlike the losi and mugen. The saleen s7 has a v8, not v12 as well.

brknwheel · #12 09-05-2002, 11:30 PM

One of the better drivers at the track I ran at last Sunday was running the Mugen truck. It has a lot of forward traction, I guess it comes with hardware to adjust the rear toe in. It jumps good, turns good, the truck impressed me. I really don't know what he would do if it broke though. The store only has losi and ae parts.

NitroOwnsYou · #13 09-06-2002, 12:03 AM

This truck is far from a Slosi

Pics below. BTW it uses the Mugen big bores from the XR buggy!

NitroOwnsYou · #14 09-06-2002, 12:05 AM

Mugen MST1

Jr

rcboy618 · #15 09-06-2002, 01:34 AM

how can you even say its far from looking like a LOSI(if it was a slosi then i dont see how it can win so many races). im not saying its an exact copy, because its not, but you definetly cannot say its far from losi designs.

Tstalion79 · #16 09-06-2002, 07:09 AM

its really pathetic that mugen couldnt come up with their own truck. who wants to buy a clone of another truck? Seriously.

Crashbot2001 · #17 09-06-2002, 07:50 AM

Man, If you were to post those pictures somewhere else and ask people what it is, I bet 95% would say Losi... Some small differences, but only small

NitroOwnsYou · #18 09-06-2002, 05:56 PM

You really have to set this truck next to a Losi to see the differences. It doe resemble the Losi, but even guys that own Losi's say that at first glance it looks like a losi, but it definately isnt.Also the steering servo is actually serviceable on the Mugen. BTW ever look at 1/8th scale buggy's?? Almost every one are 80% the same. It sometimes just happens that way. Now The MRX3 design was created by Mugen, but look at the new Serp 950, and you start seeing a MRX3 there also. They all do it, and will continue to copy a design that works, but they try to improve on it.

CTurbo · #19 09-06-2002, 08:24 PM

I would like to see some feedback from owners.

Tstalion79 · #20 09-06-2002, 08:43 PM

OK. Here we go

Similarities: Chassis, shocks are IDENTICAL, bulkheads and shocktowers are IDENTICAL, battery box is IDENTICAL, tranny is almost IDENTICAL, arms are almost IDENTICAL.

Differences:
Slightly different radio tray...

YoSystmSucks · #21 09-06-2002, 09:06 PM

First off the shocks are NO WAY identical to the losi, unless you mean they are identical to the MBX buggy shocks then you are correct...

Second the chassis looks very different, if you are trying to say every ST with a flat plate chassis is identical go ahead, the upper deck is different also, so are the mounting holes for everything on the chassis.

brknwheel · #22 09-06-2002, 11:30 PM

Just because the plastic parts are black, and the aluminum chassis is silver does not make the truck the same. I own a losi and I have raced this losi against the mugen truck. I have even seen the trucks close to each other. They are similar, but not the same. By the way, I got spanked by that mugen in the race.

Gmanlusk2004 · #23 09-07-2002, 12:46 AM

dude! screw the trucks... get an 8th scale buggy!! So much more hardcore! O well. I would prefer the Mugen over the Losi... Mugen is some high quality $#!t
Later,
Garrett

LouisB · #24 09-09-2002, 01:44 PM

Someone had a new Mugen truck at the club race on thursday, it was about as quick as a losi (not as well set-up) but after a few laps he stacked it and it went cartwheeling along the track, but it wasn't a really bad crash and came off alright. The next lap he had a fairly minor crash and snapped the axle and the rear wheel went off down the track

Are Mugens durable???

Gmanlusk2004 · #25 09-09-2002, 05:32 PM

Well to get this argument of originality over with.
Who came out with the 2wd race buggy? Associated
Who copied it? Losi
What is the universal design of the 8th scale buggy? Yep, they all look the same.
What about the T-Maxx, Tierra Crusher, Savage, and Monster GT? All look like they have 8 shocks and close resemblance of chassis layout.
What about pan cars?
8th scale 4wd cars?
Hmmmmm......
Makes you think huh?
L8r,
Garrett